Table Dancers Turn Tables, Show Up To Church To Protest Being Protested

The dancers at the Foxhole in Coschocton County, Ohio, are used to arriving at work to the sounds of protests from members of the nearby New Beginnings Ministries church. But the same couldn’t quite be said for the churchgoers, who showed up for services on Sunday and were greeted by the sight of bikini-clad protesters.

For the last four years, the pastor at New Beginnings has led a protest outside the Foxhole every weekend. Beyond just voicing their disapproval of the strip joint, the church members also videotape the license plates of the bar’s patrons and then post the info online.

So the crew at the Foxhole decided to give the churchgoers a taste of their own medicine, sitting outside the church in skimpy outfits and cooling each other down with Super Soakers as they grilled up burgers.

They also held signs with Bible quotes like:
Matthew 7:15: Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing
Revelations 22:11: He that is unjust, let him be unjust still

The strip club’s owner has unsuccessfully tried to sue the church for their protests, but now he’s hoping that this table-flipping will help to put an end to things.

“When these morons go away, we’ll go away,” he said. “The great thing about this country is that everyone has a right to believe what they want.”

One of the Foxhole dancers, a married mother-of-six, says the protesters outside the strip club every weekend are ill-informed:

These church people say horrible things about us… They say we’re homewreckers and whores. The fact of the matter is, we’re working to keep our own homes together, to give our kids what they need.

The New Beginnings pastor counters that he and the other protesters aren’t there to condemn the dancers, but to offer them a way out. “I tell them, ‘I will put a roof over your heads, and your bills will be paid, and your children’s bellies will be full,'” he explains.

The pastor says the protests outside his church of only served to confirm the churchgoers’ feelings. “They have now seen the evil firsthand,” he says. “This has just made us stronger.”

The Foxhole owner sees things differently. “They’re just mad,” he said, “because their wives won’t let them come to my club.”

Churchgoers, strippers protest one another in Coshocton County []


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  1. eccsame says:

    “One of the Foxhole dancers, a married mother-of-six…”


  2. A.Mercer says:

    The club owner should make use of those lists the church posts online. Make a contest out of it or something. Have a drawing based on the names on the list and give away prizes. Celebrate and make a big issue of it. Send the church thank you notes for compiling the list and helping the club reach out to its customers.

  3. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    I can’t be the only one amused by this.

    The pastor says the protests outside his church of only served to confirm the churchgoers’ feelings. “They have now seen the evil firsthand,” he says. “This has just made us stronger.”

    So the pastor is FOR having bikini clad women using Super Soakers on each other in front of the church…

  4. Jack Handy Manny says:

    If I come protest on my own, will you sit outside my office all day?

  5. JMILLER says:


  6. stock2mal says:

    After all the parishioners finish patting the pastor on the back and agreeing with him, they go home to their dismal lives and look at internet porn anyway. They need to keep protesting, and make it as obscene (within the boundaries of the law) as possible. Churches that protest always seem to get a pass, no one wants to fuck with them because they are afraid of the backlash.

  7. NahWukkers says:

    “The New Beginnings pastor counters that he and the other protesters … offer them a way out. “I tell them, ‘I will put a roof over your heads, and your bills will be paid, and your children’s bellies will be full,'” he explains.”

    Erm … how? Is the church offering them well-paying jobs?

    • stock2mal says:

      No dumbass, God will take care of them if they give up their devil ways and put a dollah in tha boxah.

      • NahWukkers says:

        My point exactly. Faith will neither pay their bills nor cure their hunger.

        • cluberti says:

          The only thing faith seems to do is create mobs of idiots that don’t bother to think anymore – everything is “faith”. Perhaps if they were out helping the sick and poor every weekend rather than picketing a strip club the rest of us wouldn’t look at christians and immediately lump them all together (potentially incorrectly) as hypocrites (just like they look at the strippers as homewreckers, and probably are wrong about most of them).

      • RvLeshrac says:

        That wouldn’t fly in Creflo Dollar’s church. $1 in the box? I don’t think he takes less than a $20.

    • Heresy Of Truth says:

      And how long does that offer last? I’d think being self sufficient with a job to raise your family with would be better than living off of handouts. No matter the job.

    • tbax929 says:

      Nope; God will provide all that. It reminds me of a Facebook friend of mine who kept posting about how she hopes God sends her a car. You know how I got mine? I got a job and bought a damn car. Sitting around waiting for God to provide for you is absolutely ridiculous, whether you believe in God or not.

      • LostMyMind says:

        Reminds me of a story I remember a pastor told during a sermon when I was young. This was about a guy who was “holding out for God” during a bad flood with most if not all evacuated from the area. First a rescue truck came by asking if he wanted a ride out of the area, he refused saying that “God” will save me. Second, the water is rising move so now a rescue boat comes by with the guy on the second story of his house yelling out the window that he is waiting for “God” to come and save him, he won’t get on the boat. Third, the flood waters are that bad it has the guy climbing up on his roof and holding onto his chimney when a helicopter comes by saying that the flood is getting bad and he better come with them. He refused saying that “God” will come and save him in the end. Sadly, the flood waters rose rapidly and the guy drowned.

        In “heaven”, he asked “God” why didn’t you come and save me during the flood. “God” replied that he first came in a rescue truck, a boat and finally even sent a helicopter but you refused my help each time.

      • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

        According to Joel Osteen, if you pray hard enough God will occasionally give you a good parking place. I never pray for such banal things as parking spaces and still occasionally get them.

      • DrunkenMessiah says:

        haha, reminds me of one of Sgt. Heartman’s lines from Full Metal Jacket:

        “If god wanted you to do it then he would have miracled your ass up there!”

        Seriously, if the pastor can say this kind of thing with conviction then his church is a serious case of the blind leading the blind….

    • The Lone Gunman says:


      Go down to the local Women’s Shelter, load up a bus, and have the passengers dropped off at that church–each requesting the same treatment. Repeat procedure daily. TWICE a day, if possible.

      I strongly believe that you’ll discover just how far Xtian charity goes.

    • Rachacha says:

      “Is the church offering them well-paying jobs?”
      Sure they are…as topless bingo callers and cocktail waitresses? Oh wait…

    • Conformist138 says:

      I was thinking it sounded like a cult: Walk away from you life, trust me, I will care for you… Do you have any other, erm, assets? No? That’s fine, we only wanted you for our new breeding project. Get in the van.

    • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

      Saying it is one thing, but doing it is another. If they actually followed through on their plan, the members would be badmouthing them as freeloaders.

  8. Brandroid says:

    I wanna just in here and say as a right-wing conservative Christian, these guys are stupid. Most people don’t respond to the fire and brimstone style of evangelizing, which is why its not standard in churches anymore.

    Do I condone strip clubs and the like? Nope, but I think that churches way is the wrong way to confront the issue. If they wanna try to get those woman out of that lifestyle, they should focus on helping the women, not protests and database creating. Offer them training on the condition they leave the adult entertainment industry or something like that.

    Heck, just invite them (the patrons and workers) to church. Hand out flyers with the service times. That way they aren’t protesting and the owner can’t really get angry AND at the same time, maybe some of the people would actually come to church.

    BAM. You can call me the problem solver. I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.

    • Brandroid says:

      And by just, I totally meant to say jump. I swear, my keyboard has a mind of its own.

    • kaplanfx says:

      “I wanna just in here and say as a right-wing conservative Christian, these guys are stupid. Most people don’t respond to the fire and brimstone style of evangelizing, which is why its not standard in churches anymore.”

      So what you are saying is that when fire and brimstone stopped selling jesus and making $$$ for the chuch, they up and changed the religion to make it more profitable?

      • Brandroid says:

        Actually, what I “meant” was that there are multiple ways to getting the same message across. I happen to think that fire and brimstone generally is not a good idea (and never has been). Its like with any discussion, sometimes you have multiples facets to your side of the argument. Just because you start discussing one over the other doesn’t somehow make your other facets wrong.

        And I’m sorry you think its all about money. Especially since churches are non-profits, so most of the money they “make” goes to bettering the community.

        • kmw2 says:

          It doesn’t necessarily follow that non-profits funnel all their funds toward the community. The head of the Red Cross routinely makes well north of half a million dollars a year. Non-profits may put funds toward helping their own members to the exclusion of the wider community, and routinely do. They can even hold onto big chunks of cash and call it retained earnings instead of profits.

          • Brandroid says:

            Okay, well obviously I can’t speak for ALL churches (or ALL non-profits), but all the churches I’ve been to (including a so called mega-church) didn’t have the pastor driving sports car or living in mansions or anything else that would exemplify high class living.

            Are there churches where the leadership gets paid more money then they should at the expense of the community? Sure, I don’t doubt it. But I don’t think its the norm. Mostly because I think that if/when the congregation of those churches find out, there is a backlash.

          • Brandroid says:

            Okay, well obviously I can’t speak for ALL churches (or ALL non-profits), but all the churches I’ve been to (including a so called mega-church) didn’t have the pastor driving sports car or living in mansions or anything else that would exemplify high class living.

            Are there churches where the leadership gets paid more money then they should at the expense of the community? Sure, I don’t doubt it. But I don’t think its the norm. Mostly because I think that if/when the congregation of those churches find out, there is a backlash.

          • Brandroid says:

            Oops, sorry about the double post. Been having trouble with comments.

    • pantheonoutcast says:

      “If they wanna try to get those woman out of that lifestyle, they should focus on helping the women…”

      And get them *into* the lifestyle of being judgmental, hypocritical and ignorant? These women don’t need Jesus. They need a dollar.

      • Brandroid says:

        Okay, well I’ll try to respond to you even though your comment is essentially “I don’t like Christians, I met some and they were mean to me therefore all Christians are meany-faces!”

        Judgmental: I assume you mention this because some Christian told somebody who wasn’t a Christian they were wrong. I assume you bring this up because you’ve never told someone they were wrong and therefore you are blameless in this.

        Hypocritical: I assume you bring this up because you’ve never said something was wrong but done it anyway. Not that it makes the wrong thing right, it just means you aren’t perfect. Christians have that problem. They know what they’re supposed to do, but since they are sinners (just like everyone else) they make mistakes, they fail.

        Ignorant: I don’t really know what to say about this one. Unless you think everything Christian is some uneducated hick. I went to college. All my Christian friends are either in college, or graduated. Some of them are pretty smart.

        And the women at the club need money, I get that. Hence me saying that if that church wanted to help, they should provide some sort of job training so the women can get nice jobs.

        • pantheonoutcast says:

          Judgmental: Every person is a sinner, and will go to hell without giving one’s life (and money) over to the church, who knows better than you how to live your own life.

          Hypocritical: The entire religion, in fact, all religions, is based on a book of contradictions.

          Ignorant: People who vehemently believe that a man walked across the water before healing blind people and rising from the dead are about as ignorant as people can be.

          The church shouldn’t be looking to “help” anyone who doesn’t need help. They should be quietly minding their own business and fading into the woodwork like other 2000 year old myths, superstitions and fantasies. If you want to believe (and convince other weak-minded people to believe) in magical men who live in the clouds, talk to snakes, and set fire to bushes, cool. Good for you. But that doesn’t qualify you to make judgments about people who are taking off their clothes for a living. It merely qualifies you for some very potent anti-psychotic medications.

          • Brandroid says:

            Judgmental: If you’d like, I can rephrase it: no one is perfect. I believe that’s something you and I can agree on.

            Hypocritical: Feel free to list me some. I hear that a lot from people who don’t like Christians or Christianity, but never specifics.

            Ignorant: I think you’re going for “deluded” (or call me “crazy”. This is the internet after all) maybe. Ignorant doesn’t fit.

            Also, to try to hit all your other points. 1) I don’t think I was ever “judging” them. But feel free to point out what made you think that. 2) Technically, older than 2000 years, since its an off-shoot of Judaism. 3) Are you saying bushes that are on fire are unbelievable or a omnipotent being that sets bushes on fire? 4) I don’t remember insulting you. Other than a bit of sarcasm, I’m pretty sure I was being relatively civil. You don’t believe the same thing as me, fine, but no reason to insult me.

            But hey, you seem to have some deep-seated anger against Christianity. If you ever want to talk through it, I’m here. I mean that seriously.

          • lumberg says:

            I just want to address the “you must give your life and money over to the church” comment.

            Life: You aren’t supposed to give your life to any church regardless of what they may tell you. You’re supposed to give your life to Christ. What does that mean? Follow His commands. What are His commands? In all you do, try to be a good person and love the people around you unconditionally. What many Christians do not seem to understand is that loving people unconditionally means loving them regardless of whether or not we agree with the lifestyle. For example, we don’t agree with homosexuality or, as listed above, strippers – but by Christ’s own words, we are no more perfect than them. It is not our place to judge them – we should love them because they are people just like us and that is all that matters. The church in this article clearly doesn’t grasp that fact. While it is true that we don’t agree with those lifestyle choices, we are in no way supposed to harass or torment those who do. Again, their decisions are theirs to make. Jesus said that the most important commandment was to love each other. Period. Those of us who are Christians are NOT perfect, despite what some may think.

            The best example is the story of the adulterous woman. The people were about to stone her for it, and Jesus told them that if any of them were without sin, they should be the first to cast a stone. They all walked away because they couldn’t do it. Jesus asked the woman, “Did they not condemn you?” She said, “No, they didn’t.” And Jesus said, “Then neither do I condemn you. Go and leave your life of sin.” The point is that while we have our beliefs as to how we feel life should be lived, we are in no way perfect. I’d love to see one of the women in this article walk up to the pastor and say, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

            Anyway, basically what I’m saying is that giving your life to Christ (not the church) simply means loving people and following his commands. It does not mean that the word of a pastor or preacher ordering you to pay him cash is the be-all-end-all of your life. There are very few churches out there that actually operate with pure motives and good intentions. Most use God’s commandments about the tithe to their advantage when it comes to their bills. Which brings me to…

            Money: The tithe, or the biblical instruction that we give a portion of our earnings to God, does not mean what most churches interpret it as. Giving money to God doesn’t necessarily mean giving it to a church. There are far more ways to tithe than that – more helpful and effective ways! Remember what God’s number one commandment was? Love each other. So the tithe should be used in the same way. Donate to a homeless shelter. Help a friend who’s having trouble financially. Sponsor a child in a foreign country. Give to help your local town with community projects. Or, rather than a cash tithe, use the money to create things to help people. If you’re a carpenter, maybe help your buddy to build his new shed. Mechanic? Help your neighbor get his car’s cruddy engine up and running again. No real specific skills? Volunteer in your local community. The whole idea of the tithe is to give of yourself to the people around you so that the love of God may be spread.

            Jesus never intended for us to “give our lives and money” to the church. Instead, He intended for us to give our love and our compassion to the world.

            That’s all I have to say.

            • Brandroid says:

              Technically, he said the greatest commandment was to love God with all of your being. The second greatest was to love others. Doesn’t really change your point, but my knit-picky-ness forced me to say it :P

    • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

      Seems like plenty of Right Wing Conservative Christians make up a decent portion of the clientele of these places. We used to live in a small town and my dad knew all the guys at our Baptist church. They beat their wives, had affairs, went to strip clubs, etc… I have heard similar stories about people in the city where I live as well. So, it seems very hypocritical that probably some of the very people who attend strip clubs were protesting.

      In addition, I am guessing that most women who strip don’t do it because they love it and it makes them feel good about themselves. They most likely need money because they are single moms or cannot make a living wage any other way. I certainly can’t imagine that taking off your clothes in front of a bunch of sweaty, fat, stinking, drooling perverts would be rewarding in anyway.

      Instead of protesting, why don’t they do what Jesus would do and help the strippers and help them out of their sinful ways? Maybe they could share their wealth with these women, give them money to support their children, or provide daycare and the money for them to go back to school and get college degrees. After all, wasn’t it Jesus who said, “Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. ” If they are so big on Jesus, shouldn’t they be behaving as He did in The Bible?

      • Brandroid says:

        That’s what I was saying (in my 2nd paragraph) about helping them via training and whatnot.

        And according to the post, it said they’ve been protesting every weekend. I’m sure if one of those people was protesting and then went in to “enjoy the atmosphere”, someone who worked there would call them on it/take pictures/etc. I’m not saying it never happens, I’m just saying in this case it seems unlikely.

        And do Christians go against their own morals, sure. Happens all the time. Christians are human just like everyone else. Its just like the mom who tells their kids to not smoke, and then struggles with smoking. Difference between knowing something is right/wrong and having the discipline to stick to those morals. But to make it sound like all Christians go to strip clubs, or that all Christian husbands they beat their wives and have affairs (not what you were intending to say, but it could be taken that way) is disingenuous. I’m a RWCC and I’ve never beat my fiancée, cheated on her, or gone to a strip club. But I do things that I think are “wrong”. It doesn’t negate my views or opinions, it just means I know its a struggle to do the right thing.

  9. smo0 says:

    Hah! Pro.
    This needs to happen for everything the church protests.

    • Gramin says:

      Agreed… I have a great idea!!!…

      Those damn bastards that protest about homosexuality and such at the graves of our slain soldiers… we need to send some of my gay friends from Chicago down there… maybe hold a weekend long gay pride event right outiside their church. A bit like Market Days and the Pride Parade here in Chicago.

    • Difdi says:

      Maybe something akin to this needs to happen to Westboro?

  10. pixiegirl says:

    Love it! Good for the strippers for turning the tables. Love A.Mercer’s comment too! I’m sure it would really get their goat if they used the churches “shaming” site as free promotion.

    If they keep this up I wonder if the churches attendance record will reach new all time highs with teenage boys and men. People love a sideshow no matter what it is. It could even attract more people to their congregation all though it may not be the kind of people they want to attract, lol.

    • look_out51 says:

      The women will probably do a car wash on the road outside the church, and the priest will SAY “let’s at least bring this of the street into the parking lot!” While in his head he will be thinking “and everyone coming in for a car wash will pay ME 10 bucks!”

  11. Torgonius wants an edit button says:

    Dear pastor D-Bag,

    If I promise to not take my clothes off for money, can you hook me up with the roof over my head and paying my bills, please?

    For the record, I’m an overweight older guy, and the interwebs are filled with weirdos with cash. Lots of weirdos with LOTS of cash.

  12. MedicallyNeedy says:

    I drove an elderly couple to church. I haven’t been in years and now recall one of the reasons why. It’s a Roman Catholic church. Here it is:
    sit, stand, sit, stand, sit, stand, sit, money, stand, kneel, stand, sit, lap around the church for a wafer, kneel, sit, more money, stand.

  13. El_Fez says:

    God, save me from your followers. . . .

  14. Alter_ego says:

    First, I imagine that if these women wanted a “way out”, they’d have already come to you.
    Second, why do I have a hard time believing that these women would actually be accepted if they took him up on his offer. I’d rather be a stripper than endure the perpetual condemnation of wives who think I’m a “homewrecker and a whore”, and husbands who will leer at me until their wives see it, and then blame me for tempting them.

    • mythago says:

      It’s not the wives, sadly.

    • dg says:

      Did you ever notice that most of the women complaining about someone being a homewrecker or a whore are women that you wouldn’t want to fuck anyway? Not even if you had drank a 12 pack and had TWO bags over their heads? Yeah that ugly…

      I went to school in a predominantly christian town – lots of churches. They didn’t understand any other religions points of view at all. They came off as being all holier-than-thou, and “good people”. As I did more time in that town, I came to know lots of people all over – and you know what? They’re all a bunch of hypocritical assholes who come off one way in public, and act like something completely possessed when they’re not. Drunk, stoned, trippin’, screwing their neighbor’s wife, hitting up college after-hours parties…. Then going to church a day later and condemning those who ‘commit sin’…

  15. Branden says:

    as a christian let me just put this out there: these churchgoers mentioned here are NOT real christians, or at least ones lousy at practicing their faith. jesus befriended the prostitutes and adulterers, if there were strippers back then he’d befriend them too. new beginnings ministries ought to be ashamed.
    please don’t let morons like these sour you view of christianity.

    • watchwhathappens says:

      These Christians are hewing much closer to the hatefulness and judgment the bible doles out than you apparently do. Don’t you ever get tired of defending nuts like this, they being more and more the norm in Christianity, despite your thinking otherwise? Also, you better believe this pastor doesn’t believe YOU are a “real Christian”, so the question is: who’s real? Who gets to lay claim? The ones who stick to the bible’s (albeit hateful) tenets, or the ones who try to nice it up?

      • The Porkchop Express says:

        you should read that second half of the bible. I’m no believer, but once the J man showed up the judgement slowed damn near to a stop. The problem is with the ones that stick with the first half of the book.

        • RvLeshrac says:

          “Til heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, ’til all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven”

          Perhaps you need to go back to your bible, since you clearly didn’t read any of it the first time around. Unless you’re saying that we’ve already been through that whole “Armageddon” thing what was ‘prophesied,’ there’s still a bit of the thing left “’til all be fulfilled.”

  16. captadam says:

    I’ve driven past this place many times (sigh…) but have never stopped in. One of the crazies who has photographed license plates of Foxhole patrons ran in the Republican primary for Congress this year. Fortunately, he didn’t win.

  17. lalaland13 says:

    Well, it’s all the strippers fault for dragging the men of the congregation into the strip club kicking and screaming, then holding a gun to their head and forcing them to watch the dancers writhe about suggestively.

    If that didn’t happen, then there’s a slight possibility the church is overreacting with the picketing and posting people’s license plate info online, and I don’t blame the strip club for getting sick of it.

  18. econobiker says:

    Pre-internet days, I remember an Christian group that ran an anti adult book store bill board advertising campaign back in the early 1990s. Of course if you saw the bill board “Real Men don’t use Poo rn.” then you knew you were close to an outlet. I saw the same bill boards 1000 miles from each other – it might as well been free advertising for the stores.

    I wonder if the group ever figured it out.

  19. JMILLER says:

    Instead of money going to the tiding, it should go to strippers.

  20. Guppy06 says:

    1.) Feeding the evangelicals’ martyrdom complex will only encourage them.

    2.) Six kids? In many churches, contraception is still considered a bigger sin than stripping.

    3.) “I will put a roof over your heads, and your bills will be paid, and your children’s bellies will be full.” Either the dear pastor was speaking metaphorically (“You’ll be rich… with Jesus’ love!”), or it is left unsaid that there are many, many more strings attached to the offer than just “Stop stripping for a living.” More like “Stop stripping and expose every aspect of your life, public and private, to church scrutiny (we know best) for at least the rest of your lives.”

    3.) “They’re just mad because their wives won’t let them come to my club.” Not “our” club? If I didn’t already suspect the protesting dancers were on the clock (or at least their attendance was “strongly encouraged,”) I would now.

    The churchgoers get their righteous indignation fix, the club owner gets to skim the tips while selling overpriced, watered-down drinks, and the dancers get overworked, underpaid, and unemployed before they even think about workers’ comp for that sprained ankle. Time marches on.

  21. Arcaeris says:

    Hey, if some churchy dude wanted to offer me free housing and food for myself and my children, I’d do it.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with stripping, but if that pastor is gonna put his money where his mouth is, these women could get free educations and rent and such and come out way ahead. If he’s just being metaphorical, well screw him.

    • haggis for the soul says:

      I’m sure that offer comes with a LOT of strings attached. I sure wouldn’t want to be under the thumb of somebody like that.

  22. VeganPixels says:

    FTFA: “Likewise, the churchgoers largely ignored the dancers. Except for Stan Braxton. He stopped and held hands with Lola, a 42-year-old dancer who made $200 on her Saturday night shift, and prayed for her salvation.”

    “The 30-year-old married mother of six said she has danced at the Foxhole for a decade and holds the title of “house mom.” That means that even though she still dances, she also watches out for the six other women who work there. She said she makes $2,000 a week.”

    >$200 on a Sat. night shift
    >$2000 wk
    >One of these people is lying.

    Also, 42 y.o. on the NIGHT SHIFT with a 30 y.o. house mom. I cry for this club.

    • christianmarie says:

      yeah. that’s bullshit. Very few dancers make 2k a week anymore. If she’s doing 200 on Saturday, I’d guess she’s making 2k a month. I will never understand why these stupid girls insist on inflating the amount of money they make when they talk to reporters.

    • jeff_the_snake says:

      i’m sure they have good nights and bad nights. a 42 year old probably has more bad nights than a 30 year old.

  23. Worstdaysinceyesterday says:

    “The New Beginnings pastor counters that he and the other protesters aren’t there to condemn the dancers…”

    “The pastor says the protests outside his church of only served to confirm the churchgoers’ feelings. ‘They have now seen the evil firsthand…'”

    So he is not condemning anyone – glad that he can see that job is already taken in Christianity by the old man who lives in the sky. But he seems pretty quick to call the people/women evil, hmmmmm. Nope no condemnation here!

  24. Liquidice says:

    Don’t know if anyone has mentioned it already (sorry if you did), but why don’t these people do some charity or volunteer work instead of spending 4 years wasting their time protesting? They could probably do a lot more good with their time.

  25. Derp says:

    Haha I live right next to the foxhole and its actually in an old abandoned church…..maybe that’s why they’re always protesting?

  26. yankinwaoz says:

    These are the same people who complain about the government sticking its nose in people’s business. Yet these asshats think nothing about sticking THEIR noses in other people business.

    I think they are just terrified that someone, somewhere, might be enjoying themselves.

  27. Mcshonky says:

    “I tell them, ‘I will put a roof over your heads, and your bills will be paid, and your children’s bellies will be full,'” he explains.

    Sounds like what a pimp would say……

  28. EcPercy says:

    What about the Golden Rule? “Treat others as you would like to be treated”

    I am not religious anymore due to people like this. I was forced to go to church all my life and all I ever saw was lies and deceit. Pastors molesting girls in the youth group all the while they are preaching hellfire and brimstone about premarital sex and extramarital affairs. I saw numerous couples with established marriages having affairs. Members of my family would sing in the choir and sing solos for the congregation and then go home and smoke a joint or two afterward.

    I can live a much better life without having a particular brand of religion. One can also be spiritual without needing to attend a church that wants you to sign a contract to get 10% of the money you earn.

    I strongly believe in Karma. Eventually these people (the religious fanatics) will get what they have coming to them.

  29. Conformist138 says:

    I went to a church as a teenager that got protested by another church. Now, our church was the kind that went out to protest abortion clinics and shit (seriously, I was done with religion by age 14, but the folks made me go until the put my foot down at 17). The other church was MORE conservative than our people and they protested our services. They wore ankle-length, long-sleeved wool garments and held signs that said “HIDE YOUR FORM AND YOUR SHAPE!”

    See, our women wore knee-length clothing with color that was flattering.

    There is always someone more out there than you. Screaming at them will not change their minds, it will only make you look like idiots. I adore that the strippers had fun to really put it back on the church for their being so dickish.

  30. EdnaLegume says:

    sure they go to the foxhole to “protest”…… suuuuurrrreeeee.

    good for those girls.

  31. MrMan09 says:

    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

    Mohandas Gandhi

    • lumberg says:

      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
      Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

      As a Christian, I can say with every fiber of my being:

      Quoted for truth.

  32. Sparty999 says:

    he he… Foxhole…

  33. DjDynasty-Webology says:

    Just like the protesters of the gay pride parade, No amount of logic or reason will matter to them. They are right, and you are going to hell. The problem with living in a country with “Free Religion” and “Free Speech” is we don’t lock up the loonies for talking to people that the rest of us in the room can’t see. If we taxed the shit out of churches maybe they’d shut up more often, or close down.

  34. TheCorporateGeek Says Common Sense Is The Key says:

    Previously working as a DJ in a gentleman’s club, there are basically 4 classes of dancers..
    1. Those supporting their kids (sometimes from multiple baby daddy’s),2. Supporting their drug habit,3. Making Money For School,4. Dancing because they enjoy it and are actually good at it.
    And yes, it was a great job!

  35. Puddy Tat says:

    “The New Beginnings pastor counters that he and the other protesters … offer them a way out. “I tell them, ‘I will put a roof over your heads, and your bills will be paid, and your children’s bellies will be full,'” he explains.”

    Put this guy to the test hand over your bills too him and see here is my car payment, my housing and food! OO and don’t forget the electricity and entertainment funds. So you actually didn’t mean you would do everything you said you’d do? REALLY?

    Take care,

  36. peebozi says:

    I love these women!

    This should be applauded by all of us who believe women should have the same rights as men.

    It should be discouraged by religion, you know, the organizations that treat all women as 2nd class members.

  37. bosozoku says:

    Well, Churches and Strip Clubs do have something in common…no matter how much time you spend there, no matter how much money you throw at it, and no matter how much you pray and beg…nothing is going to happen in the end, you’ve wasted your time and money when you could have been out living life.

    However, I do dig the protest of the protest, good for them.

  38. Cassandra Katz says:

    Strip joints are usually owned by creepy old men who make the dancers pay stage fees (yes, those women *pay* top be there in exchange for expected tips). In addition, there is reasonable evidence to show that 1) not just stripping goes on there (these are often places of prostitution), 2) underage girls are often employed, 3) drug addicts or “troubled” women are often employed and 4) in some cases “employment” is coerced. To put it another way: an educated, mentally-stable woman is not likely to work as a stripper unless it is for some sordid women’s studies class experiment.

    Churches are also pretty big scams, with the pastors skimming money from mostly working and middle class congregations to give to the ever-needy God. They are also predominantly controlled by men, and the more activist version of Christianity can be compared to phallic worship. In other words, not too sympathetic to “troubled women.” Forgive me if I doubt the pastor’s kind offer of help–between their boss and the pastor I don’t think these gals have much of a chance!

  39. bugpaste says:

    There’s a joke about atheists in here somewhere…

  40. Kristy says:

    This is America at it’s FINEST. This makes me realize what were all about. The freedom to be who we want. I myself would much rather support a mother of six than an establishment (like church) that was built on pure lies. Bravo to you foxholers and hey church peeps…try thinking for yourself once in a while.

  41. KenziNee says:

    Naked women are not evil. Ignorance and intolerance are evil.