Burger King Exec Hides Behind Daughter's Email Account To Trash Talk Opponents

The next time Burger King VP Stephen Grover goes online to spread FUD about labor advocates, he should probably leave his daughter out of it. For one thing, she’s a horrible accomplice and will spill her guts to the first reporter who calls. For another thing, this forthrightness clearly makes her too ethical to smear a group that’s trying to bring pay for tomato pickers up to living wage levels.

Here’s the quick back story: tomato pickers in the U.S. are paid ridiculously low wages and treated badly, and some people are talking to fast food companies about increasing their pay by a penny per pound in order to help solve the problem. There was an agreement on the penny pay increase—McDonald’s and Taco Bell were okay with it—but that fell through after Burger King joined up with some Florida tomato growers to claim that the low-wage claims were false and the workers were treated just fine.

It’s gotten so bad that earlier this month, farm workers and their advocates testified before the Senate that claims of $12.50/hour wages were false, and that the industry has a history of worker abuse:

“It may not sound like much, but for the tomato pickers, it means the difference between poverty and decent wages,” Kennedy said. He invoked Edward R. Murrow’s landmark 1960 documentary “Harvest of Shame,” which detailed the grim plight of migrant workers in Immokalee and elsewhere.
“Too little has changed over the years,” he said. The fact that there’s a need for hearings today shows “how far we have to go to provide genuine fairness and justice for this vulnerable workforce,” he said.
“Do the math with me,” Durbin said in his opening statement. Workers would have to fill and empty a 32-pound bucket of tomatoes, each worth some 45 cents, about every two minutes all day long to earn the $12.50, he said.
“Is that possible?” he asked. “I don’t think it is.”
Sanders also decried conditions in Immokalee, pointing out that when he visited in January, a 17-count indictment was handed down for enslavement of tomato workers.
“In America, in the year 2008, it is not acceptable that workers producing the food we eat should live in these conditions,” he said.
Workers face seven-day work weeks, physical and psychological abuse, and debt bondage to their employers, said Lucas Benitez, co-founder of the Coalition of Immokalee Workers.

To give Burger King an edge in the discussions, Stephen Grover took it upon himself to spread disinformation to the media, going so far as to hide behind his daughter’s email address. Classy work there, Grover. Where do you think you work, Whole Foods?

At one point, Burger King Vice President Stephen Grover told reporters he was concerned the coalition was pocketing the extra money. After several independent groups that verified the agreements dismissed the allegations, Burger King officials stopped repeating them.
But the allegations were repeated on blog posts, according to a story published Monday in The News-Press in Fort Myers. The paper traced those posts to the online user name of Grover’s daughter. The girl, who is in middle school, later confirmed to the paper her father had used her online screen name.
In a post still available Monday on YouTube, an individual with the girl’s screen name wrote: “The CIW is an attack organization lining the leaders pockets by attacking restaurant companies. They make up issues and collect money from dupes that believe their story….”
Messages left for Grover at work and at home by The Associated Press on Monday were not immediately returned.

Our favorite part of this is how Grover’s wife acts so offended that her daughter has been dragged into the story. Look to your husband, Susan! Don’t blame the press because the girl’s father decided to use her as a human shield!

His wife, Susan Grover, confirmed the screen name was their daughter’s but said she didn’t know if her husband had used it. She accused the News-Press reporter of not identifying herself as a journalist to their daughter.
Reporter Amy Bennett Williams said she did identify herself and told the girl she was taking notes. She also said she left all of her contact information, which the girl’s mother later used to call and complain.

In contrast to Susan Grover’s complaint, we’d like to give a shout out to the reporter, Amy Bennett Williams, who has been following the larger story since the beginning. She’s the main reason any of this has reached the general public in the first place.
“Farm worker advocates to present Burger King with petitions” [Fort Myers News-Press]
“D.C. takes up tomato pickers’ plight” [Fort Myers News-Press]
“The Harvest of Shame” — report from U.S. senator Bernie Sanders [OpEdNews.com]
(Photo: Getty)


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  1. modenastradale says:

    Who makes these visuals? They’re kickass!

  2. sp00nix says:

    I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today,

    im hungry now

  3. unklegwar says:

    Damn! $12.50/hr to pick a tomato? That’s pretty good pay for totally unskilled labor!

    Grab tomato, twist, remove, repeat. HOw hard is that?

  4. NightSteel says:


    Yeah, but as the article states, you have to do 32 pounds of tomatoes every two minutes to do it. Given an eight hour workday, that’s just under four tons of tomatoes in one day by one person to maintain that $12.50/hr.

    Think you can pick four tons of tomatoes per day for a full-time job? I don’t think I could.

  5. friendlynerd says:

    Seriously. I know people with jobs that require 1. dressing nicely in clothes they had to purchase 2. interacting with the public 3. making decisions 4. being responsible for banking and 5. managing other staff that make less money than $12.50/hr.

    There’s a reason there’s a minimum wage – for jobs with a minimum of responsibility.

  6. youbastid says:

    @NightSteel: Don’t forget to add that they also have to do this work in, what, 110 degree weather with ridiculous humidity? In long clothes? That makes it a lot easier too.

  7. AnderBobo says:

    @unklegwar: They aren’t getting $12.50 an hour… probably like $3.00 if that.

  8. chiieddy says:

    @unklegwar: The point is they’re NOT getting that wage. That’s what BK claims they’re getting. In order to get $12.50/hr, they would have to fill and empty a 32-lb bucket every 2 minutes. That means they’re being paid ABOUT $.42 per bucket. The suggested increase agreed to by McD’s and Taco Bell was $.01 more per bucket, bringing them up to $.43 per bucket. If you can do 4 buckets an hour, you’re currently earning $1.68/hr or $13.44 in an 8 hour day (note, they probably work 18 hour days for about $30 per day). Not exactly the big bucks.

  9. rgshredder says:

    upper middle class, suburban white high school students working at in n out for 10 bucks an hour and Mexican immigrants working as tomato pickers are pulling in $12.50…(a tear rolls down my face)…today is a sad day to be an American…

  10. bohemian says:

    They need to make it a federal offense to pay someone less than the federal minimum wage no matter their status to be here and no matter what creative scheme they come up with to pay them less.
    They also need to make some of these slave labor schemes a huge federal offense. Any form of holding someone in servitude, repaying an immigration debt, holding passports, locking them in a factory should land the people who do it in federal prison for at least a few decades.

  11. Frank Grimes says:

    What’s amazing to me are the comments at the newspapers web site regarding the story and how many of them are attacking the reporter and the workers organization. Glad to know that TX doesn’t hold the monopoly rights on myopic business rights advocates.

  12. Mayor McRib says:

    BK is just trying to prove that you can have it your way.

    Taco Bell probably uses a LOT more tomatoes than BK. If they are willing to get the extra penny, why not just do it BK?

  13. ConsumptionJunkie says:

    A penny a pound is nothing!

    How cheap can BK be?

  14. trujunglist says:

    Yeah, the amount of labor probably makes the reality of 12.50/hr an impossibility.
    What I can’t really get over is the fact that Burger King, a MIAMI based company, cares so little about the people that are from their own state! I realize there are cost factors here, and to dumb it down by saying McD’s and Taco Bell were OK with the tomato agreement is somewhat absurd (especially because they fought and fought.. I remember hearing about this years ago), but I find it repulsive that Burger King cares so little about it’s next door neighbors, even if it’s all about being able to compete. MAYBE if you had made the concession before Taco Bell and McD’s, you would’ve looked like a hero to Floridians, YOUR OWN PEOPLE. Dumb shits.

  15. NightSteel says:

    @bohemian: It already is a federal offense. The problem is, there are exceptions to that minimum wage, in this case, an agricultural exemption. Just remove the exemptions, problem solved.

  16. bohemian says:

    I am guessing a 32 pound bucket is about the size of the old bushel buckets we used to have as a kid. They slightly larger than a big square laundry basket. Now fill that with tomatoes every two minutes including pulling tomatoes off the vine without damaging the plants. A good test would be to get a bunch of tennis balls, pile them up, grab one, bounce it off the floor, catch it in your hand and put it in the basket. Repeat this process until the basket is full and then walk it at least 50 feet and walk back to where you were. I doubt many if anyone could do that in two minutes.

  17. tande says:

    @unklegwar: Not to mention that as the article suggests the industry still uses what amounts to indebted servitude. You pay out for living quarters, the “right” to pick, etc. so that even if you DID get $12.50/hr (which as others pointed out is effectively impossible) they’d take half of it back to cover what you “owe”.

  18. laserjobs says:

    Outsource all of it from Mexico, screw americans.

  19. jeff303 says:

    @modenastradale: I think it’s usually some guy named “Stock Images”. He seems pretty talented.

  20. Parting says:

    @unklegwar: Read again.

    “Do the math with me,” Durbin said in his opening statement. Workers would have to fill and empty a 32-pound bucket of tomatoes, each worth some 45 cents, about every two minutes all day long to earn the $12.50, he said.”

    Worker do NOT get paid that much.

  21. Parting says:

    @rgshredder: You should read the article, before writing comments.

  22. GotanOrange says:

    @rgshredder: are you and unklegwar intimate?

  23. FightOnTrojans says:

    @youbastid: And you forgot about having to deal with the pesticides that cause cancer, birth defects, and all kinds of other nasty health problems.

    Oh, and that mythical $12.50/hr. comes without anything resembling health insurance.

    And they are working 7 days a week. What’s that? You can’t work today because you’re sick/your kid is sick/you were injured on the job? Sorry, sucka, we don’t know you, you just lost your job.

    Have you ever seen anyone pick fruit/vegetables for a living? Since they are paid piecemeal, speed and efficiency are a premium. Those people have some serious skills and some serious pain tolerance. For some reason, we seem to value their ability to put food on our tables much less than we value A-Rod’s ability to hit a ball with a stick.

  24. trujunglist says:


    Except tennis balls are furry and light, whereas tomatoes are heavier and have bugs, thorns, and sticks to make it even worse. I bet they don’t make more than $4/hr in reality.

  25. Ex_EA_Slave says:

    @laserjobs: “Outsource all of it from Mexico, screw americans.”

    Last time I checked, Americans were nonexistent among the ranks of vegetable pickers. The vast majority are illegals from Mexico. If they don’t like the pay, they can go back to their huts with dirt floors making no money. Of course then BK would have to actually pay Americans $12/hour to pick produce which should raise the price of a Whopper to about $17.95.

  26. APFPilot says:

    This is a local story down here and more than a few people I know seem to think they are pocketing the money….

  27. privateer says:

    Not to defend the parents of the girl, but as a parent as well as a former reporter, I can understand why they would be upset. It’s not illegal for a reporter to contact a kid that age without parental consent, but it is an ethical issue. It’s safest to talk to kids with their parents present or with their prior consent. Getting confirmation for your story isn’t more important than a kid’s privacy and safety.

    Nevertheless, the father sounds like a complete idiot. His blog post put the girl in the public eye first, not the reporter’s story. It’s doubtful he has any clue what it is like to be a farm laborer.

  28. Xkeeper says:

    @Victo: read the article


    that’s a good one.

    Get with the program, nobody reads articles anymore. They read a few things here and there, enough to form a completely ass-backwards view on what it actually says, and then spit off crap here and sound like morons.

    Welcome to the Consumerist.

    The sad part is, people like them in higher-up positions have the same attitude, so theyll probably never get fair pay, much less this $12.50.

  29. @FightOnTrojans: It’s funny that we abandoned DDT which was safe to humans, but made birds eggs soft, to the new stuff which has all these bad side effects. I guess the workers can admire the beauty of a soaring hawk w/their third eye.

  30. Wally East says:

    @laserjobs: What? What do you mean?

  31. Wally East says:

    @unklegwar: Okay, stop using your daughter’s Consumerist screen name.

  32. It truly is modern day slavery. The conditions they live in are terrible. I am from SC and there was a tomato farm there that had shacks for the workers to stay in. They looked similar to the historic slave shacks that they have on James Island. Heck they may even originally been slave shacks since it is SC. You get paid crap just to go home to a small shack with just a box fan. Quit being cheap BK. Even if you use a 100 million lbs of tomato’s a year you could just cut back on your execs bonus/salary to cover it.

  33. meeroom says:

    Even more reason to go check out http://www.localharvest.org and find some farmer’s markets in your area. I found it through consumerist and I’m now a CSA Farm shareholder, I buy eggs from a local farm that are so darn delicious you wouldn’t believe it. Totally worth it to buy local food from local farmers instead of supporting the dreaded “agribusiness”.

  34. @Unklegwar & All others feeling no sympathy.

    I am an American born and raised. I spent my summers on my moms boyfriends Organic Blueberry farm in Western Oregon making some money. There were some migrant Hispanic families that the farm also employed repeatedly.

    Those people were the most amazing fruit pickers I ever met. They could pick BUCKETS of berries in the time it took me to pick one. Saying that picking and processing your food is “unskilled” labor is ridiculous.

    Also … $10 an hour to work in fast food … where do you live?! Here people make exactly minimum wage in fast food which when I last looked was around $7.35 an hour.

    In the migrant farm worker industry out here you make money based on how hard you work. Period. The farm I worked at seemed very respectful of their workers, because they were some of the best pickers out there. I remember several occasions where we visited their home, and had dinner with them and vice versa. Then when the season was over we had some tearful goodbyes.

    TBH I can’t remember what we paid per bucket, how many buckets an hour those people could actually pick or even what the minimum wage was 20+ years ago (Somewhere around $3-4 an hour). But they could always afford to rent a house, and took care of their kids.

    Having that history this story about BK really pisses me off. They will never ever see another dime from me!

  35. modenastradale says:

    @rgshredder: In the heat! Shackled by debt! And the laborers aren’t even making anywhere near $12.50 because it would be physically impossible to approach that level of efficiency.

    Yes, it is sad.

  36. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot says:

    Burger King is full of crooks, from the highest levels and downwards. My bf worked as a manager there and the mismanagement, ignorance, lies, deceit and backstabbing he witnessed amazed me. Unfortunately since they went public, everything has gone steadily downhill, so this article doesn’t surprise me.

  37. Shutaro says:

    She is *so* grounded.

  38. BigElectricCat says:


    “There’s a reason there’s a minimum wage – for jobs with a minimum of responsibility.”

    Clearly, Stephen Grover should be paid such a wage. After all, he’s not taking responsibility for hiding behind his kid.

  39. azntg says:

    @rgshredder: Start your mourning AFTER you read the article and after you read U.S. History and race relations.

    I’d imagine that if you weren’t being sarcastic that you’d be surprised that some, if not many of your “Upper middle class, suburban white high school students” were once the “Mexican immigrants” equivalent in US History.

    Let me guess, Burger King wants to raise prices on our end without raising wages for the tomato pickers? I wonder where the difference in profit is heading off to?

  40. bizzz says:

    So if I order my whopper without tomatoes, am I helping or hurting the tomato pickers?

    They can have a pay increase when they pry my $1 value meal burger from my cold dead hands (which, given the amount of fat in calories in said burger may be any day now).

    Finally, why is it only the fast food franchises? Are the pickers who pick tomatoes used in spaghetti sauce getting paid more than the fast food pickers, or do they just don’t care?

  41. sprocket79 says:

    I did a project for my Business Ethics class on the Immokalee tomato pickers when the Taco Bell case was going on. These workers have to live in horrible conditions just so they can get by on their meager wages from picking tomatoes. It’s hard work and they deserve to be paid more for it.

  42. I think we’re forgetting to blame the victim here. I can understand the problem with ‘slavery’ type conditions, but I’m not sure someone doing this job deserves anything close to $12.50/hour!?!

    If you get paid by each bucket (QUOTE: each worth some 45 cents) and you were are really good tomato picker you should be able to make decent enough money for this type of ‘profession’.

    I’m sure no one has had the ambition to grow up and be a ‘tomato picker’. Sometimes you have to take what you can get, and if you can’t handle the tomato war, stay out of the trenches.

  43. rgshredder says:

    sarcasm people…calm down…

  44. rg says:

    1. If they pickers are not happy with their pay, they need to find a job that will pay what they want. If no one is willing to work as a picker for low wages, then the boss will have to offer more money, it’s simple economics really.
    2. Since when is it illegal or even unethical to trash talk your opponents?

  45. rgshredder says:

    I did read the article, and I was pointing out the huge wage discrepancy between the remedial positions within the food industry…with a satirical twist with respect to class and race.

    High school students (i.e. don’t have a high school degree) are making at least 3x as much as the average tomato picker.

    Those missing the point are probably the ones with high school kids making a good wage off the back of slaves and enjoying their double whopper…(not satirical)

  46. sisedi says:

    @rg: I came here to say that, thank you for saving me some effort, spot on.

  47. thalia says:

    Dude. Just a note for the future. Email addresses are free. And yes, easily attainable.

  48. @TakingItSeriously: “Also … $10 an hour to work in fast food … where do you live?! Here people make exactly minimum wage in fast food which when I last looked was around $7.35 an hour.”


    Oregon minimum wage is 7.95. Everyplace I looked in getting a job in fast food (didn’t want it, but looked anyway), it was between 9-11 an hour.

    Just sayin.

  49. modenastradale says:

    @rg: Actually, I have a degree in economics, and I’d say this particular issue is far from simple. Significant political, legal, financial, and social pressures have converged to produce this situation. If it were as simple as you’re making it sound, uh, don’t you think it would already have happened?

  50. klendathu9000 says:

    @Phillip M. Vector:

    Well, here in the east, you’re lucky if you get 8 an hour for ANY fast food job, and you only get that if you work the night shift. fast food here in maryland pays the absolute minimum, which is the current federal minimum wage, 5.85 an hour. (it does go up this July to 6.55 an hour, Woohoo! ). Try living on that and paying rent, feeding a family (with real food, not leftovers out of the dumpster), insurance, car payment, etc…

  51. @Frank Grimes: Maybe the BK exec is busy creating more sock puppets?

  52. sventurata says:

    @modenastradale: Like, laws are for losers! Did they not brainwash you into believing theoretical models based on ideal situations always govern people’s rational actions? Clearly, you went to some hippie liberal arts college for eCo[mmu]n[ist]omics.

    On a serious note: thank you.

  53. modenastradale says:

    @Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler: Ha. Thanks for the laugh. I’m always having these little squabbles with a certain friend who, as a matter of core personal philosophy, does seem to believe that theoretical models based on ideal situations always govern people’s rational actions.

    She has said things like, “Obviously she didn’t negotiate a better rate on her credit card becuase the marginal utility of a lower rate was insufficient to cover her marginal disutility of negotiating with the bank.” And I’m scratching my head, thinking “She’s 75 years old. Perhaps she didn’t know you could do that.”

  54. Gorky says:

    Why should someone get paid $12.50/hour to do something so menial as picking tomatoes. They should get paid not a penny over minimum wage. If they get $12.50 then everyone will want to pick tomatoes and skilled labor for important jobs will shrivel up.

  55. swimmey says:

    Don’t talk smack about farmworkers with your mouth full.

  56. ivanthemute says:

    @sp00nix: It is tuesday. Pay up!

  57. modenastradale says:

    @Gorky: Which “important jobs” are you talking about? Telemarketing? Assaulting innocent passers-by with perfume at Macy’s? Debt collection? Astroturfing?

    I’d sure hate to see those important fields dry up, just so that the people who break their backs under the sun to provide our organic artichokes could earn a living wage…

  58. XianZomby says:

    @LucasAnderson: Each tomato sells for approximatly .45 cents. They are not getting paid .45 cents for each tomato they pick. If that was the case, you could pick 100 tomatoes an hour, and make about 93K a year. I’d quit my job if I could make that much money for picking a mere 800 tomatoes a day.

  59. XianZomby says:

    Co@LucasAnderson: My apologies for misreading your message. .45 cents a bucket it is.

    Duh on me.

  60. Snarkysnake says:

    For any of you nut fudge “free market” advocates out there that think that this is a fair wage- Fuck You.

    This is the a symptom of why politics in America is turning left.Business and its leaders and practices (mandatory arbitration,ignoring wage laws etc..)are driving independent voters to put the screws to Wall Street’s raping of the middle and lower classes. I say high fucking time.

    Big businesses (like BK )have had it good in this country and their greed and venality means that they are about to get a generation long trip to the woodshed from big brother.If either of the Democratic candidates for president wins in November,they will have a like minded congress to bring these companies to heel. And the Republican is no fan of Wall Street. Good.I’ve had just about enough of capitalism for these folks and bailouts for big business fuck ups.

    Goodbye Burger King. Fuck you and your shitty burgers.

  61. Ariel.Sanders says:

    @modenastradale: A degree in economics is wey sexy.

  62. god_forbids says:

    @Snarkysnake: It’s not about BK being cheap, or “Wall Street” being evil. It’s about YOU being cheap. Stop demanding low prices, America! Add $5.00 to every item at every restaurant, grocer and retail store (incl. Wal-Mart) so it can be Certified Natural Fair-Trade Organic Free-Range Fair-Wage Non-Illegal Produced Made In America goods?

    America outsourced those ideals long ago, and the last few hypocrites died the minute the recession hit.

  63. synergy says:

    @Git Em SteveDave: DDT isn’t safe for humans. It’s been associated with some cancers and chronic neurological problems.

  64. Comms says:

    Haha, what a douchebag.

  65. u1itn0w2day says:

    First the exec is trying to weisal out of paying a decent wage.That 12.50 an hour is a potential wage if I understand correctly-per pd per bucket etc.Reguardless of ‘skill’ level you still should have to pay a decent wage for WORKING-I don’t care how someone classifies or what status someone gives a JOB.Physical effort should compensated for-it’s WORK,it may not be brain surgery but it’s WORK.And it’s work that leads to feeding people:I’d say that’s pretty important.

    Then daddy doesn’t even have the guts or initative to get his own email account.I mean you can even get an anonymous email account if you want and look hard enough-oh forgot that might be skilled labor:something he’s not suited for.That’s why he’s been compensated by such wonderful publicity.DUMB FRAK

  66. @u1itn0w2day: I apologize if I read your comment wrong, but are you seriously saying that $12.50/hour is a decent wage for someone who picks tomatoes for a living?

    You forget that these people DO get paid. Who are you to decide what a ‘decent’ wage is to pay someone who picks tomatoes all day? Not every job should be worth the same amount. Unless of course you are the type of person who believes a brain surgeon should also be paid $12.50/hour. We call them ‘socialists’.

  67. Those who think that tomato picking is an easy thing, those who say tomato pickers don’t deserve to get paid 12.50 an hour (which I do realize they aren’t making anyway that’s what BK thinks) – are seriously out of touch.

    Hammering is easy, yet according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics construction workers are paid an average of $20.02 an hour. My ex was a caulker, and earned 40 an hour.

    I’m pretty damn sure none of y’all would be willing to pick tomatoes for 12.50 an hour. If your gut reaction to that is that you don’t “have to” pick tomatoes because it’s not your job, then your not just out of touch, you’re a classist.


  68. mmstk101 says:

    @LucasAnderson: but, you see, they ARE NOT making $12.50 an hour. It is more than likely impossible to pick enough tomatoes, over a 12 or 18 hour shift to do that. That’s the issue . . .

    Let’s just totally miss the point and confuse the issue. Let’s now say that these newly wealthy tomato-pickers are making $35 dollars an hour. Sure, to do that they would have to pick 78 32-pound buckets of tomatoes EVERY hour.

    wow. those lucky bastards.

    Good lord, some of these comments make me mad.

  69. @mmstk101: I never said they WERE making $12.50/hour. I was asking if he thought they deserved to make that amount? I don’t really care what is or isn’t possible here, the point is that it’s not exactly a job that requires an amazing amount of skill, talent or luck.

    Those ‘lucky bastards’ choose to pick tomatoes for their job. What’s your idea of a fair wage for someone who picks a tomato and puts it in a bucket all day long?

  70. Cerb says:

    Are you people f’in morons? They ARENT making 12$ an hour that’s a lie propagated by BK. Some of you need to go back to elementary school and work on reading comprehension.

  71. sncreducer says:


    I think anybody who’s willing to actually work for a living should be paid a living wage. $12.50 an hour may fall under that definition, depending on the cost of living in the area.

    But let me ask you this, since you seem so gung-ho about making sure those ignorant tomato pickers are properly punished for their foolish life choices with a minimally comfortable existence: What’s your idea of a fair wage for the executives at the top?

    A tomato picker who sweats in a field all day doing literally back-breaking labor – assuming they make the lavish $12.50 an hour Burger King claims they do – would make a whopping $26,000 a year for a 40-hour work week.

    The CEO of Burger King, John Chidsey, a man who undoubtedly does exactly zero manual labor during his work day, a man whose “work” is likely filled with meetings and long, expensive business lunches, made $4.1 million last year. Does he “deserve” that? Are there not thousands of MBAs out there who could do his job?

    Call me a socialist if you like. I’m enlightened enough to know it’s not really an insult. But is it possible that people like Chidsey – who toils on a comparatively low rung of the spiraling ladder of executive compensation – could survive on, oh I dunno, $2 million a year and share some of the wealth with the workers who, you know, create that wealth with their labor? $1 million a year? $500K a year? I mean, I don’t want to force poor Chidsey into poverty. Maybe $500K a year isn’t enough. After all, his Porsche isn’t going to wax itself.

  72. AD8BC says:

    1) Send home the migrant workers/illegal aliens.
    2) There are plenty of people who could do this job for minimum wage — many people on welfare. Let them pick tomatoes for 5.75 an hour. Better yet, let them still get welfare but have the farmers pay the government instead.

  73. Comms says:

    @AD8BC: “here are plenty of people who could do this job for minimum wage”

    No there isn’t.

  74. 2719 says:

    If they don’t like the pay they need to find another job. At least that’s something I would do. I am not familiar with living conditions etc so I can’t comment on that.

    I used to eat at BK at least 4 times a week. Then they jacked up the prices AND reduced french fries portions. (Oh look it fits in a cup holder…) So I stopped eating there.