Bob Saget Disapproves Of Your Parenting Techniques

Leave it to former sitcom dad Bob Saget to give air travelers even more of a reason to demand a families-only section of the airplane.

Over the weekend, the comedian shared this — mercifully short — clip of his recent on-board ordeal.

He writes, “Here’s a video of my lovely six hour flight featuring screaming babies with cowbells…”

Bob Saget’s Screaming Baby Video [Buzzfeed]

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  1. al says:

    Horrible. I would think he has enough money to buy himself a nice pair of noise canceling headphones. They should hand them out for free to anyone within 6 rows of a child.

    • larrymac thinks testing should have occurred says:

      Noise-cancelling headphones are good at reducing steady droning noises, like airplane engines. Babies and cowbells, not so much.

      • richcreamerybutter says:

        Noise-isolating earbuds are better in this instance.

      • newsbunny says:

        Earplugs. Good old-fashioned earplugs. Then I use my broadcast headphones over those earplugs — not noise-cancelling, but well-designed headphones for radio use, that cover the ear completely and create a seal around the ear.

        Silence. Not even my husband’s constant nattering gets through.

  2. Miss Dev (The Beer Sherpa) says:

    I am all for family sections on planes. I am also all for adults-only hours at movie theatres.

    I was at the Great American Beer Festival last month and there were three women there with newborns. I’m sorry – but GABF is one of the last havens for ADULTS. I understand that they didn’t want to leave their babies home, but come on…

    • hotdogsunrise says:

      I was at a local haunted house this weekend and there were several families there with their newborns strapped to their chests and young toddlers. I could never imagine bringing a child to a haunted house that was that young.

      • s73v3r says:

        I worked at a haunted house (haunted park, really) for a while. One day we’d have a special session for little kids. We didn’t try to scare people at all, and handed out candy. We also toned down the makeup a lot.

        • hotdogsunrise says:

          I think that’s a really good idea. But the one I was at was very intense (for haunted houses), and very very loud noises. My ears were actually ringing a bit after. I didn’t think it was the best environment for a small child.

          Neither was the drunk guy that a worker had to make sure didn’t come after me and my friend. Oy.

          • perkonkrusts says:

            Well, I missed the part about your ears ringing. Hearing damage to babies is an entirely different matter than crying.

            • HogwartsProfessor says:

              Yeah, if it were that loud I’d say keep the newborn at home. Same with movie theaters. They turn up the volume on those to a sometimes uncomfortable level. No WAY would I take a little baby in there. Those poor little ears.

      • perkonkrusts says:

        Newborns are maybe OK at a real haunted house, toddlers not OK at all. Newborns don’t get scared by scary things because they don’t understand, and if mine were sleeping, no amount of screaming and chainsaws could wake them up. Toddlers are old enough to get freaked out. Mine get freaked out by a mean guy on some lame cartoon, if I took them to a haunted house they’d be staring at the wall and slobbering while rocking back and forth for years.

      • JulesNoctambule says:

        My niece went to her first ‘grown-up’ haunted house last year, age five. I held her the whole time, and it was a little overwhelming to her. I used to work in a haunted house, so before we went I talked about all the special effects, how they made them and how it was all pretend, just like the movies. Still, when you’re in the moment it’s easy to forget! When she looked like she might be getting freaked out, I waited until we were the only ones in the room at the moment and asked the killer clown to break character for her. He took off his mask, assured her it was all pretend and made a silly face so she’d laugh. A kid younger than her I’d never even have considered bringing, and I only felt okay with her going because I know her comfort level with scary things. The one where I used to work wouldn’t allow children under a certain age (I think it was six or seven) and my god, the fits some parents used to throw!

    • Geekmom says:

      There is a movie theater near me that has an 21 or older only balcony and a room for parents to go with their kids till they quiet down. I wish there were more theaters like that!

      • hotcocoa says:

        That sounds amazing (the place for parents to go with noisy kids). Why have a 21+ section though? Do they serve booze? The last movie I went to, the people next to me had to be in their 40s and were annoying as hell, commenting on everything and talking to each other. Gone are the days when people went to the movies to actually enjoy a movie….

        • jason in boston says:

          Some theatres indeed sell booze. I would even pay more per ticket to have 21+ only showings. Not just a balcony, but an entire showing.

          • Shadowfax says:

            There’s a theater in my town that does this. It’s fantastic. No one under 21 is allowed. If they catch you talking or texting on your phone, you’re tossed out. And they sell beer. It isn’t good beer, but we’re working on that ;)

        • ElizabethD says:

          Seriously… I’ve noticed especially at matinee or early-evening movies that the older viewers are the chattiest. I’m talking especially about groups of elderly women who keep up a running gabfest. Ugh.

          • eyesack is the boss of the DEFAMATION ZONE says:

            I’m saying this as someone who’s 25, but I think the generation “above” mine was less polite than ours/ages below mine is. (People over 65-70, of course, have always had some people who thought “I’m old, I can do whatever I want.”)

            I don’t know why, and it’s just my personal experience, but it seems that historically, politeness fades in and out in culture. It’s like “morality” – compare 1920/1930s to 1950s life in big cities; there’s not necessarily the downward spiral people think of.

          • zekebullseye says:

            Completely agree. They start losing their hearing and they completely lose the concept of *whispering*.

            One time I sat behind a blind guy and his wife. The wife was giving him a loud running commentary of the entire movie. WTF? Where is people’s consideration for others? Fortunately I was able to move to a different seat. If none had been available I would have blown my stack.

      • human_shield says:

        Meh, when it comes to theaters, for every 1 noisy child there are 20 noisy adults yacking to each other or on their phones.

    • mechteach1 says:

      I’ve never been to the GABF, so I have no idea, but why should that be an adults-only venue? The GBBF is quite family-friendly. The kids aren’t allowed on the drinking floor, but they have a separate section where the parents can trade off watching the kids, with plenty of activities (crafts, movies, toys) for the little ones.

      • MountainRooster says:

        When I went it was very rowdy. Lots of drunks yelling. People throwing the free taster glass as the ‘session’ ended. Posibility of crushing a newborn was present. I wouldn’t wear my good clothes or a newborn backpack.

      • Silverhawk says:

        I’ve been to both, and I wouldn’t take kids to either one. Well, not toddlers to the GBBF anyway. The crowd is generally better behaved at the GBBF.

    • Spaceman Bill Leah says:

      As a beer lover staring 9 months with no alcohol right in the face I can tell you that attending something called the Great American Beer Festival with a newborn sounds like a FANTASTIC idea.

      I mean, as long as they aren’t breastfeeding after drinking why the hell not? Newborns just kinda sit there.

    • 3skr1mad0r says:

      You need a Drafthouse. Its a movie theater where you can drink beer and eat an actual meal while watching. The best part is, its 18+ except for certain showings.

    • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

      Sorry, but I don’t want to sit with my very, very well-behaved child amongst a bunch of obnoxious parents who give their kids cow bells. It’s not fair to lump people together based on the fact that they have kids.

      I would however support a walled off section of the plane we could send those annoying people to as long as I can send the guy who dumps his seat back into my lap while my tray is down with a soda on it back there.

      • peebozi says:

        Yes, let’s group all of the parents with kids in the back or front of the plane, your choice, and install a temporary wall between us and you and first class. This way you won’t be exposed to adults traveling sans their spawn. Sounds like a great compromise.

    • TheWillow says:

      There’s a St. Patrick’s Day festival/concert in DC every year called Shamrockfest. It’s sponsored by Beer companies. It mainly houses Irish Rock/Punk bands and DJs.

      Every single year I have to watch some idiot freaking out because she wheeled her baby carriage to the front row of a pit, didn’t notice the giant crowd behind her and jr. is about to get crushed by moshers.

    • weggles says:

      I went to an outdoor concert in Toronto. It was approximately 8 hours in the hot summer sun… and people brought their babies? What place does a baby have in an 8 hour outdoor rock concert.

    • pot_roast says:

      I have seen an increase in strollers somewhere I never thought I’d see them – Burning Man.

      …and the groups of mommies see nothing wrong with bringing a 15 month old into the desert heat & dust with blaring techno music going 24/7. :/

      It’s like the only kid-free areas are strip clubs. Even bars aren’t safe from the mommyblogger onslaught.

  3. Daverson says:

    Thanks, Bob. Now you know exactly how I feel every time I see you on television.

  4. BuyerOfGoods3 says:

    Amen for the “mercifully short” — I cannot stand screaming or crying children (which is why I choose not to have them; i understand it’s unavoidable).

    Even at 5 or 6, the flying still made my Ears pop as a child, and it caused a LOT of pain. I cried, and went into the bathroom to keep from disturbing others. Way to go (my) Mom!

    • BuyerOfGoods3 says:

      …though one time, I was too young to figure out the lock, and got really freaked out by being “locked in the bathroom” for about 5 minutes.

      Man, was that terrifying (as a kid).

    • zekebullseye says:

      However uncomfortable it is for you I can assure you it’s hell on the parents. My solution for the ear discomfort was to give them a bottle as we took off and landed. That prevented a large portion of that problem. But, if the baby has a cold or ears that don’t pop easily, plane rides hurt. Don’t be such an infant. They have just as much right to be on a plane as you. Bring earplugs or headphones.

  5. Squard says:

    Why do people who can’t practice birth control deserve their own special section?

    • SomeWhiteGuy says:

      Some of us actually choose to have children. It’s an amazing idea in this day and age of “I’m the only one in the universe” but it does happen.

      • evnmorlo says:

        So condemning your children to death in order to “play house” and avoid thinking about your own is supposed to be selfless?

        • Master Medic: Now with more Haldol says:

          Aren’t you just a ray of sunshine!

        • Marshmelly says:

          This comment makes absolutely no sense regardless of how many times I read it. You’re saying that people who chose to have children are condemning them to death and “playing house”? What in the eff are you going on about? There are people out there who want to have families, who love their children, and who are excellent parents. I know…shocking.

          Talk about being bitter and extremely judgmental.

          • evnmorlo says:

            “They want”, “they love”, etc. My point is that they do it for themselves, not the kid, who would likely rather not be born if it knew what it would have to go through. The parents too are likely deluded, but they reap what they sow.

            • Conformist138 says:

              Wow, you must be severely depressed. Why on earth would someone ultimately choose not to be born? I mean, yeah life is hard, but really? You’d really pick non-existence if given the option?

      • DH405 says:

        Yes, the only selfless act in the world is to have a baby. NOBODY does that for selfish reasons.

    • Me - now with more humidity says:

      Why do people who can’t practice civility and non-asshatishness deserve their own special section?

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      Yes, because the human species will find a way without creating the next generation…

      Squard = troll.

    • Kitten Mittens says:

      If your parents had been smart enough to practice it, this post would be a better place.

    • johnny_ryall says:

      same reason the only replies you got take offense to your sense of humor?

      also, consider the reversal…people that can properly use birth control get their own special section, without screaming monsters

    • kittylauper says:

      Hmmm “can’t practice birth control”? How about a lot of health insurance plans don’t cover it (but they cover viagra), it is fucking expensive with or without health insurance coverage (still have a copay for the prescription), and a lot of people don’t have health insurance to begin with. On top of that, a lot of doctors won’t prescribe anything better than the pill/patch/ring for women under about 35 who don’t have kids. A lot of doctors don’t inform women how to properly take their birth control. For example, if a woman is taking antibiotics for, oh i don’t know, a yeast infection (pretty common), and she also happens to be on hormonal birth control, she needs to use a barrier method to prevent pregnancy. A lot of doctors don’t tell you that when they prescribe birth control. On top of all of this, women STILL make less money than men doing the same job with the same qualifications, and women are STILL expected to take on the sole financial burden of pregnancy prevention a lot of times. Maybe women could “practice birth control” better if birth control was fully subsidized by our government. But no, birth control is still something that is hard for poor women to attain, and so are abortions. So go fuck yourself.

      • kittylauper says:

        Sorry I meant “urinary tract infection” not yeast infection. LOL.

      • Framling says:

        Can I point out how cheap and readily available condoms are, or will you yell at me about wage disparities?

        • kittylauper says:

          And I’ll remind you about how boyfriends refuse to use condoms a lot of the time, especially in abusive/controlling relationships. Birth control puts pregnancy in a woman’s control, condoms put it in a man’s control. And condoms aren’t that cheap when you make minimum wage.

          • Anonymously says:

            I guess it depends on how active your sex life is. It averages out to about $5/yr for me.

          • TorontoConsumer says:

            I can think of at least 3 places I can go for free condoms. A man refusing to wear them, that’s a different fight.

    • kittylauper says:

      Oh and P.S. just because a woman has a child doesn’t mean she couldn’t practice birth control. She was exercising her freedom of choice, by choosing to have a child.

    • zekebullseye says:

      Whatever, Squardtroll . My husband and I planned our kids, and tried for years to get them. Grow up and leave your Mom’s basement.

    • consumedchick says:

      cheers! aye aye

    • teamplur says:

      Um… can’t practice birth control? That’s so funny I’m not even laughing right now. So you are saying that the parents of the ENTIRE population of the world, and thru all of history… all those people simply couldn’t practice birth control? Having kids is not AIDS! It’s call reproductive success and if you don’t have a need for it, your genetics simply fail. We exist be cause we want to continue existing.

  6. MongoAngryMongoSmash says:

    Too bad Danny the Tourettes Guy wasn’t on that flight.

    • CharlesFarley says:

      I was thinking the same thing!

      :-)

    • almightytora says:

      This x 1,000,000. BOB SAGET!

      But yeah, you cannot think of Bob Saget as the “Full House” guy. That was acting. Watch him when he was roasted on Comedy Central. That’s the REAL Bob Saget.

  7. hotcocoa says:

    A friggin’ cowbell? Seriously? I would have called an attendant immediately and asked him/her to tell them it was a plane and not a farm and to put that shyt away. Some people really have no consideration for others. Ugh.

    • Rectilinear Propagation says:

      Agreed. If I were the flight attendant I’d have just told them not to use it without waiting for someone else to complain.

  8. pastthemission says:

    I will say this: that is NOT screaming. Also the cowbell is more annoying than the baby is.

    • Michaela says:

      It may not be screaming to you, but that is something I would not enjoy (I find it loud and annoying).

      I understand that babies make noise, but I do not feel like I should suffer for hours because someone cannot control their child. Something has to change so situations like this are minimized.

      • LordXar says:

        “situations like this are minimized.”
        Is this really that common a problem for everyone? Or is it just that annoying a problem when it happens?
        People act like every flight they get on has a kid crying right next to them when in reality it’s probably more like 1 in 10.

        • Michaela says:

          Maybe you are that lucky, but I have only been on one flight where there was not a crying situation, I usually fly coach, so I know my chances of running into screaming children are probably higher than those who fly business or first, but I don’t see why that should force me to arrive in London with a headache.

        • Con Seanne-BZZZZZZZZZZZZ says:

          Experience says it’s about 6 in 10.

  9. Me - now with more humidity says:

    Need more cowbell!

  10. Master Medic: Now with more Haldol says:

    Yea that’s rich; coming from the guy that we all wanted to put an ice pick into his eye.

  11. djanes1 says:

    First Class has never before felt so much like steerage.

  12. anarkie says:

    The kid thought the airplane needed more cowbell. You watch, that little ______ will be on SNL someday.

  13. Oranges w/ Cheese says:

    Obviously the baby couldnt’ help it, but the small child (WTF WHY WASN’T IT IN A SEAT?) definately could’ve benefited from an ipod and some coloring books.

  14. shoelace414 says:

    What? how could it be that this is the first story on consumerist tagged with Bob Saget?

    http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=1&tag=bob%20saget&limit=20

  15. trimetrov says:

    I wonder what life will be like when today’s babies are adults. Their parents have no shame, don’t believe in discipline, and feel like their little Ayden/Kayden/Hayden/Jayden is just “expressing himelf” by throwing temper tantrums in the grocery store, doctors office, or anywhere else normal people congregate. Common courtesy is dead.

    • pinkbunnyslippers says:

      Don’t fret – there are those of us who raise our children to fear “the look” or phrases like “wait until your father gets home” and “Go get my belt!”. There are a lot more of us than you may think =)

      • Clumber says:

        I just got a shiver of terror just reading your post… just please OH PLEASE don’t threaten to pull this car over! I’ll stop bugging my sister I promise! DON’T PULL THE CAR OVER!

        (My dad admits today that he had no idea what he would have done if we’d called him on it. Even knowing that though – i still get worried… I bet if he said it to me today I’d still feel that blood cold stab of terror. The very worst thing in the world I could ever do would be to disappoint my dad. And I am closing in fast on 43 years old now!)

      • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

        Yes, these things exist in our household as well. My child is happy, obedient, well-adjusted, and tells my husband and I we are the best mommy and daddy in the world on a regular basis. She even commented on how ill-behaved her friend who doesn’t get spanked or repremanded is. She said that she thought the girl needed a good spanking to keep her in line.

    • 99 1/2 Days says:

      Argh, on the rhyming boy babies names. Anyone notice they all rhyme with Satan?

    • d0x360 says:

      Im right there with you. When my Son was of freakout age if he did freak out in a store we left. It may not sound like a punishment when you are grocery shopping or just walking around walmart but it denies them the chance to ask for anything. He freaked once, maybe twice and never again. The we are leaving tactic works people, use it!

      • MrEvil says:

        When I freaked out in public my mom or my dad would just give a firm slap on the rump at first, then we’d be exiled to the car.

        Once when my sister and I got into it in the car I called my mom on the “Don’t make me pull over.” bluff and she fucking pulled over and kicked my ass out of the car. She only drove a few hundred feet down the road before stopping to let me get back in.

    • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

      You forgot Arden, Dryden, Gannon, London, Kyler, and Valoria. They’ll all be there too.

  16. jiarby says:

    I hate screaming babies anywhere… but especially on an airplane where there is no escape. Add to the list of hated things: seat kickers, chatty cathy’s, snot spewing sick people, smelly folks, and especially the fatties. Let’s put all them on a whole plane of their own, not just a section.

    • Thespian says:

      “…and especially the fatties. Let’s put all them on a whole plane of their own, not just a section.”

      Okay, done. And while we’re at it, let’s have them create a designated “bigoted a**hole” flight for people like you as well.

  17. smo0 says:

    If all you guys know of Bob Saget is from Full House… you are missing out on VOLUMES!

    The guy is hilarious!

    I LOVE baby haters!! We need our own anti-breeding coalition.
    I also have a special place in my heart for parents to recognize bad parenting and bad children and say something about it.

  18. McRib wants to know if you've been saved by the Holy Clown says:

    Like he was never a screaming baby or a rambunctious little twerp. :/

  19. sheldonmoon69 says:

    Anyone who has had a baby knows that it’s nearly impossible to quiet a crying baby. And by baby, I mean and infant who can’t properly communicate its needs and can’t understand their parents’ desire to keep quiet. The best you can do is keep the baby fed, dry, and distracted. Or take them into the plane’s restroom if it’s excessive. It’s just the nature of things. You can be the most courteous and disciplining parent, but all that goes out the window with a baby.

    Toddlers on the other hand are a different story. Sure, they can be fidgety and hard to control at times, but should have the basic understanding of NO and concepts of people around them. That’s when good parenting begins to kick in. Distractions like coloring books, videos, games, etc. are vital. Get on a plane unprepared with a toddler and be prepared for a ton of criticism and harsh looks.

    • Shadowfax says:

      You’re entirely correct. Babies are hard to control. You can’t just flip the off switch to stop them crying.

      And that’s why they should not be out in public places where their crying will disturb others.

      It’s also impossible to explain to a baby what to do about the pressure changes. You can’t give it gum to chew, and you can’t tell it to yawn to equalize the pressure. In short, an airplane ride is going to hurt, and the baby will understandably cry about it.

      And that’s why they should not be on airplanes.

      • bdgbill says:

        Well said!

      • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

        Amen. They should not be on airplanes.

      • Beeker26 says:

        +1

      • tugnutt says:

        That’s a nice sentiment, but sometimes you can’t avoid air travel. We’re set to move back to the mainland from Hawaii in June and are expecting in March, so there’s not really a good way to avoid taking the infant on a plane.

        • Shadowfax says:

          Are you trying to tell me that the majority of babies on airplanes are “gee I just can’t avoid it!” situations?

          • redhouse387 says:

            Babies on a plane. You’re just going to have to live with it. Move on.

          • slightlyjaded says:

            No, most people bringing babies on a plane are doing it for fun. Because nothing is more fun than dragging your baby around airports all day and trying to keep them from crying during a three-hour flight on a stuffed plane while people glare at you. Fun!

      • slightlyjaded says:

        Alternatively…

        You could suck it up and deal with the fact that babies sometimes cry. And that when you leave the boundaries of your home, you may not be able to control every aspect of the universe every moment of the day to achieve your optimal level of personal comfort.

        Does it strike you as ironic that the only people who typically do have that expectation are, in fact, babies?

        • Shadowfax says:

          And you can suck it up and realize that having a child does not give you the inalienable right to control that universe.

          You’re telling us to put you in charge of the noise level. If your kid wants to squall, we have to put up with it. And then you try to bury your asinine demand under an insulting “gee only babies want that kind of control.”

          Unfortunately for you, we see through the tactic.

          I am sure that your child is the most precious and beautiful thing in the whole wide world to you, and we’re very happy for you that you get such joy out of him/her. But having a baby does not confer upon you the right to impose your child on society. It was your choice to have a kid. One of the consequences is that there are places in the world that children are expected not to disturb. If your child cannot handle not being disruptive in such places, then the child is not welcome there.

          • slightlyjaded says:

            Thanks, but anybody posting that babies “should not be out in public places where they might disturb others” has a sense of entitlement that far exceeds that of my four-year-old. (At least she has parents to say, “Sorry honey, I know you’re really frustrated, but we just can’t always have everything exactly the way we want it.” As well as the excuse of being four.)

            There are indeed “places in the world that children are not expected to disturb.” An airplane isn’t one of them. I wouldn’t take infants to an opera. I wouldn’t take them to a four-star restaurant. I actually wouldn’t take my kids, when they were infants, on a plane–specifically because I knew they would likely cry and I didn’t want to deal with it.

            But I also recognize that I am not the only person in the world, and not everyone has a choice. I recognize that people with infants sometimes need to travel, likely for their own legitimate reasons that are none of my business. (Believe it or not, given the option, most people with infants would prefer not to sit on a plane with them for several hours.) So I don’t have this strange expectation when I get on an airplane that the rest of the human race will conform their behavior to suit my personal pleasure.

            • Shadowfax says:

              “Sorry honey, I know you’re really frustrated, but we just can’t always have everything exactly the way we want it, and that’s why you need to either control your child, or not bring him to places where he will bother others, even if you really want to go there. That’s part of living in polite society.”

              • slightlyjaded says:

                I didn’t realize that “polite” meant an expectation that people using public transportation will never have to sully their ears with the sound of a baby crying.

                You have some fascinating ideas about what you’re entitled to when you leave your house in the morning.

                • Shadowfax says:

                  And now hopefully you do.

                  • smo0 says:

                    ^^ This

                    @slightlyjaded – Hello… there are more people who hate other people’s kids than people like you.

                    • slightlyjaded says:

                      Then they should start an airline that caters to adults only. Or charter their own private flights.

                      If you’re going to take public transportation, then you’re going to have to deal with the public–as in other human beings, some of whom have infants. And if you have the expectation that everyone else in the world is responsible for making your flight a relaxing haven from your busy day, you are going to be continually disappointed.

                      FTR, I am not talking about parents who are refusing to deal with toddlers or older kids who are misbehaving. I am talking about people who take a public plane (or train, or bus, or presumably a stroll through the park) with the expectation that they will never have to hear a baby cry. Or smell something unpleasant. Or see ugly people.

                      Grow up for god’s sake. It may be a hard lesson, but the world just doesn’t revolve around your personal comfort.

                    • Shadowfax says:

                      You know, all these things you’re telling us to do, perhaps you should consider doing.

                      If your kid is going to be a squalling noise machine the whole trip, maybe YOU should charter the plane. After all, no one is going to complain if the plane is quiet, but they’re going to be annoyed if it’s a 6 hour flight of screaming. What you’re suggesting is that your child is some sort of magic talisman that allows you to annoy 150 other passengers, and if they don’t like it, then they have to arrange special accommodations for themselves so that you, 1 person, is not inconvenienced.

                      That’s called an entitlement attitude.

                    • iakiak says:

                      Your face and smell repulses me. And so out of common courtesy for the polite world and to prevent puking incidents please stay home.

                    • djanes1 says:

                      Babies have the right to be in public and cry, but please, a cowbell? That is just being intentionally obnoxious. I also have the right to write in progressively narrower text fields.

                    • TheGhostshark says:

                      You’re not going to win this argument, I assure you. Give up.

          • bandit says:

            Why does having a child give somebody the inalienable right to piss off everyone else? If somebody has a baby, life is over, deal with it. You are trapped for at least the next 18 years. Do your traveling beforehand.
            If babies get to go everywhere, so does my dog. He is much friendlier, more sanitary, and quieter.

        • lawnmowerdeth says:

          When a baby cries on a plane, I should be allowed to light a cigarette.

        • richcreamerybutter says:

          I realize babies cry and sometimes need to travel, and I certainly can’t blame them for reacting to air pressure changes. That said, if I ever become a parent and find myself having to travel with a baby, I would bring a giant tub of ear plugs for passengers around me as a courtesy.

  20. badachie says:

    Call me cynical, but I have a feeling that today’s airlines would make the family sections only as big as to hold the families on the flight. Two families composed of eight people? Today our family section is two rows. In the row right behind the screaming child? Tough. They are in the family only section.

  21. badachie says:

    Call me cynical, but I have a feeling that today’s airlines would make the family sections only as big as to hold the families on the flight. Two families composed of eight people? Today our family section is two rows. In the row right behind the screaming child? Tough. They are in the family only section.

  22. lehrdude says:

    We have a theatre with a 21+ section too…and it’s a blessing. Not just because it has no kids, but because it no young adults either.

    They also have a playroom that you can check your kids into while you go see a movie. They load the kids up with popcorn and lemonade and let them play computer games while you enjoy the show…

  23. Pinget says:

    Have none of you seen “Idiocracy”? We educated people have got to have kids and, if you have any sense, you’ll be empathetic about the process. If you don’t have kids, you really have no idea what it’s like to be on the other end of this. I would hate to see the US become like Europe where kids are so rare that no one wants to be bothered by them, period. Many Europeans think they live in an adults only society and all kids should be seen and not heard. As a consequence it is very hard to be a parent there. No one wants to give your kid space to breathe. My sons are well behaved on planes but there have certainly been times they could have done better. Who among us is perfect all the time?

    • Shadowfax says:

      The “educated” people are the ones making sure that if their kids are on the plane, they are well-behaved, and are therefore not what Saget is complaining about.

      I don’t think there are very many people out there who don’t understand that kids sometimes screw up. Sure, a kid on a plane will misbehave sometimes.

      What I, and many others, are frustrated about is that it seems a growing number of parents are, rather than correcting the misbehavior and making it stop, either ignoring the kid, or watching while smiling and saying “He’s expressing himself!”

      I’m not saying you have to keep your kid home until he’s ready to go to college. I’m saying if you take your kid out and he starts making life miserable for other people, either make him stop, or leave. That was my parent’s hard and fast rule, and it’s mine as well. If my kid starts howling in a restaurant, we leave. Doesn’t matter if the food just got there. One of us takes the kid to the car while the other pays.

      Of course, frankly, parents with such attitudes rarely have to carry out that policy because they’re plugged in to their kid’s life the rest of the time. I never acted out in restaurants, because I was first taught very carefully how to properly behave when in public, and I knew the consequences for acting up would be dire, and would not end with losing my dinner. I’ve never had a problem with my kid acting out in restaurants either, for the same reason.

      • Master Medic: Now with more Haldol says:

        I’ve seen many more tantrums by the kids of “well educated” parents stemming from a certain superiority complex ingrained since birth.

      • smo0 says:

        “I’m not saying you have to keep your kid home until he’s ready to go to college.”

        That’s what I’M saying…

        but I agree with you, I was always well-behaved… it honestly has nothing to do with your income or education level either. It’s manners, traditions and norms.

        In other words… there’s a time and a place… and there’s just shit you don’t do in public. Teach your kids that as soon as they “recognize words.”

  24. S says:

    Can someone link a mirror? All I get is a half second chirp then the player goes into infinite refresh. I’ve managed to click play then pause and wait for the entire thing to load, but it still only does the half second when I try to play it before it goes full retard on me.

  25. peebozi says:

    and the kid should be banned from first class!!!!

  26. DriverB says:

    No one likes a screaming baby on a plane. But I think there’s actually a difference between bratty kids whose parents can’t control them, and babies who are really uncomfortable or hurting because of the pressure/temperature/whatever. At least as adults we can walk around, chew gum, listen to music, etc. Plus, it’s likely that the parents (the ones who are good consumerists, anyway) are really embarrassed and stressed out about how much noise the kids are making, and just want the flight to be over already.
    And no, I don’t have kids, and fly transpacific or crosscountry at least once a month.
    Still, haters gon’ hate (especially in this thread).

  27. quagmire0 says:

    I’m not sure who’s the bigger baby – the infant that is crying because he doesn’t yet have the developmental skills to express himself properly, or the kid. :D

  28. HogwartsProfessor says:

    I can’t hear the babies usually. The engines on these damn tiny planes are so loud I can’t hear myself think in any case. Probably because they’re always right next to the only seat I could get!

  29. HoJu says:

    Think of it as YOU would be getting your own special section- away from breeders

  30. daemonaquila says:

    Parents can complain about us “haters” all they want, but the charges are true. Those who argue that it’s impossible to control a baby (it’s not, by the way – my sister in law was a master at making sure her kids would sleep on the plane) are actually giving a great reason why there should be a no-kids section on a plane for those who don’t want to suffer their eardrums exploding, the wondrous odor of full diapers, thrown candy/toys, or constant kicking/hitting/bouncing.

    As for those who have brought up kids who are well disciplined in public – kudos to you. It’s NOT impossible. I’m sorry you have to put up with the kids of all the parents who just can’t be bothered. Funny, the first complaint from poor parents is “You don’t know what it’s like! You’re not a parent!” Sorry, a good proportion of the people who have a problem with the way kids are allowed to act on planes are or were parents themselves.

  31. AmyinMotown says:

    That is NOT crying that the first kid is doing. The dad is doing his best to keep him happy and making him laugh; the second kid is a baby and they can’t help it. Shut up, Bob Saget. That said, what kind of an idiot lets a kid have a cowbell on a plane?

    I have to kids, ages 5 and 2, and trust me we work with them all the time on politeness, showing respect for adults, etc. But they’re kids, and they make noise, and talk, and my daughter DOES NOT GET, despite constant correction, that you don’t get right in people’s way. Kids aren’t miniature adults. If the noise of a baby bothers you, I can understand that, but maybe YOU shouldn’t be flying if it makes you so insane to be out in society. I flatly refuse to fly with my kids, but if we do I’m doing everything I can to keep them amused, threatening them with no television ever as long as they live if they kick the seat in font of them or make a break for it down the aisles, and hoping for the best.

    Also? Kids in movie theaters or at rock shows (that aren’t during the day or specifically kid-oriented)? NO WAY. And there’s a reason we show up at restaurants at the early-bird special hour: we can eat, enjoy our meal, and get out of there before we get dangerously close to bedtime and the kids turning into tired crazy people. I get tired of being looked at like we brought a bomb in the building when our kids are generally well-mannered and nicely behaved.

  32. jtotheg says:

    I’m conflicted. I am childless. I fly a fair amount (1-2 trips a month on average). But I don’t think there should be a family only section. Instead, I think there should be premium childless flights. If you don’t want to fly with children, then pay a little more and live in relative comfort.

    At the same time, if a child was banging on a bell or triangle or any sort of noise-making device, the airline attendant should have stepped in and told the parent firmly that this was disrespectful toward his or her fellow passengers, and certainly not appropriate for air travel.

    Lastly, this is clearly in first class. Boo-hoo, Bob Saget.

  33. mlkmaide says:

    I was on a plane last May, sleeping my way back to Pittsburgh, when I was awoken by the smell of poop. The woman sitting next to me was changing her baby’s poopy diaper in her seat! If we would have hit any turbulence I would have almost certainly been smeared with baby poop. It was pretty awful. At least the baby was quiet for the ride.

  34. Compbl says:

    Wow and from a man that has three kids himself. Shame on Bob for being a Hypocrite.

    And for all you “haters” referring to us parents as “breeders” someday the shoe will be on the other foot, and hopefully you live up to the your own asine standards and you stay home and plop you kids in front of the XBOX, and spare us your self-centered monologues on how the world shouldn’t effect or inconvenience you.

    Unless you haters believe the human race should die off, children are a fact of life. GET OVER YOURSELVES….

  35. Compbl says:

    Wow and from a man that has three kids himself. Shame on Bob for being a Hypocrite.

    And for all you “haters” referring to us parents as “breeders” someday the shoe will be on the other foot, and hopefully you live up to the your own asine standards and you stay home and plop you kids in front of the XBOX, and spare us your self-centered monologues on how the world shouldn’t effect or inconvenience you.

    Unless you haters believe the human race should die off, children are a fact of life. GET OVER YOURSELVES….

  36. geoelectric says:

    Easy fix. Get rid of free/cheap lap fares. Ditch the free domestic and 10%/25% int’l standard, and charge infants the same way as adults.

    Sure, they don’t take up much weight or even a full seat, but it pays for the lost revenue from people who refuse to fly because of them or who choose a different airline after the inevitable bad experience. Plus it guarantees the little noise generators will only be on flights they absolutely have to be on. If it’s not important enough to pay for, it’s not important enough to impose on the rest of the cabin.

  37. Shrew2u says:

    I wonder if Bob ever flew with any of his three kids. Hope they were well behaved!

    For a five-year stretch, I flew 2-3 times per year with my eldest daughter (1st time was when she was 6 weeks old). Even as a young mom – before the internet explosion of mommybloggers and parenting advice on the net – I knew enough to pack a carry-on with things to keep my kid fed, watered and (quietly!) entertained. Cowbell? Screw that, I would have pounded that cowbell up Mommy’s exit passage.

  38. consumedchick says:

    I would think he could bounce up to first class or at least not be on a puddle jumper for 6 hrs( two seats per side).

  39. Bob says:

    Ok, this time less screaming baby and more cowbell…..I SAID MORE COWBELL!

  40. almightytora says:

    Oh, that’s nothing. I was heading to PIT (Pittsburgh) from LAS (Las Vegas) on a Wednesday back in June and I sat behind a couple with 3 kids (all between I would guess 2 and 6). All of them screamed and cried the entire time. Seriously?????

    Funny how on the following Monday, I see the SAME COUPLE and the SAME THREE KIDS sitting in the front of the plane. I made sure I sat near the way back, and told all my friends to sit in the back with me. (We still heard some very faint crying and screaming the entire time.)

  41. Me. says:

    For every screaming baby/ in-seat diaper changing parent I’ve encountered on a plane, there have been 3x more well behaved kids and prepared parents.

    It’s just that you don’t notice them…