Toyota Recalls 3.8 Mil Cars For Stuck Gas Pedal Danger
Toyota is recalling 3.8 million cars and warning owners of certain late-model cars to immediately remove their driver's side floor mat to avoid accelerators getting stuck. The affected Toyota and Lexus models are:
2007-2010 Camry
2005-2010 Avalon
2004-2009 Prius
2005-2010 Tacoma
2007-2010 Tundra
2007-2010 ES 350
2006-2010 IS 250 and IS 350
Many Toyota and Lexus owners must remove driver's side floor mat to avoid stuck accelerator [USA Today]
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@GitEmSteveDave_JustAddHotWater:
Now I've got a legitimate excuse for why I was speeding!
Except I don't have a Toyota.
Darn, almost-foolproof.
@SagarikaLumos: I suspect this is due to the crash in San Diego a couple weeks ago. The accelerator was stuck and the car crashed at something like 120 mph.
@GitEmSteveDave_JustAddHotWater: You are, for not having experienced the awesomeness of a certified "Toyota" logo for you to place your feet on every day.
Now, I know your life must feel empty and hollow, knowing that all this time, you could have been enjoying this fine piece of craftsmanship. Running your naked toes past the "T", feeling the high-quality stitching created lovingly, fated to one day end up on your floorboard, accompanying you on your journeys, telling you that everything is going to be OK.
I may die on my way home today, but at least I won't have to live even one moment without my Toyota drivers side floor mat to comfort me through another mindless commute.
THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME!
I own a '07 Lexus IS 350 and don't see how this is possible. The factory floor mats attach to clips in the carpet, but...
I was driving my secondary vehicle, a '97 Civic. I was driving across a bridge when all of a sudden my car starting accelerating for no reason. I downshifted and still kept picking up speed. At this point I'm going 80 in a 35. My heart is in my stomach and I'm slamming on my brakes but still accelerating. I keep it together, look down, and see my floormat shifted and was holding down the gas pedal. I quickly reached down and yanked it, and finally stopped.
Related to this crash in San Diego county, that killed a CHP officer and his family.
@Darklighter: 3.8 million car recall over one crash? I kind of doubt it. There would have to be many incidents to cause such a huge recall, even if noone else was hurt or killed. As Holytrainwreck noted above, though, many floormats (especially aftermarket) can bunch up from people getting in and out. Unless they can get a deep grip on the carpet or hook to the floor stud that many cars have, most aftermarket mats are at least as dangerous as these Toyota mats.
Mental note: if the car is running away with me, shift into neutral.
@Darklighter: yeah exactly, and there's really no need.
if you use the included clamps on the floor there's no issue, but because it was a cop who died Toyota is getting a lot of pressure to do something.
@esp13: Sounds like it has a hook, so it probably isn't included because of that. Toyota will most likely send you an advisory to make sure it's hooked on.
Hyundai did that when they had the airbag recall. I went in and got the part fixed, but they still sent out a notice on how to properly deal with the passenger airbag.
With all the talk about floormats affect pedals, I wonder about the reliability of 'throttle-by-wire' and 'push-to-start' on cars. What's to keep programming errors (this is a cost-at-all-costs industry) from suddenly flooring the engine?
If you press those start/stop buttons while the car is in gear and in motion, will it shut down or ignore it?
@RustyRyan:
Just another reason for me to continue buying manual transmissions.
I'm accelerating for no reason!!!
*clutch* *Neutral*
Now lets coast to a place I can fix this at.
I think I would have thrown the sucker in neutral/reverse/park and let the engine blow before I crashed at 120.
@wgrune: My thoughts exactly. Try neutral, lower gears, grind up against a wall and e-brake it as a last resort.
@Quake 'n' Shake: The CHP and Merced County have evidence to the contrary and about $300 of mine to prove it :/
My GM floor mats are working just fine. No death threat to me from my fine GM automobile. Best I ever bought...
Toyota is having issue after issue after issue. This follows the bad run of Camry and Lexus ES transmissions in 2007.
Toyota just can't make cars as well as the domestic automakers do. Why can't they make cars Americans want to buy?
@drizzt380:
With an automatic you can put a car in neutral just with your hand (you do not even have to push the button), no wasted time stepping on a clutch.
Also if the accelerator was stuck you could also just turn your key to off.
This makes me believe that this happened to a driver with no license anyone with driving experience knows how to move a stick to neutral or turn a key.
@bnceo: My 2004 Corolla has this exact same issue. There aren't floor clamps for the floor mat and it continues to bunch up around the accelerator.
I may try bringing it in anyway to present the issue.
@andyross: hear, hear!! would you trust some doofus software engineer with your life? i think not.
btw: harware engineer here. never, never, never, ever fly-by-wire.
@zoz: Except if you don't have a clutch - in which case you turn the engine off and put it in neutral - then start braking.
@Oranges w/ Cheese eats her veggies: I think it is the models without hooks on the mats, that have a problem. My 2009 Matrix has hooks that keep the mat from sliding up under the gas pedal and scrunching.
@CaptainConsumer: That's why Hyundai/Kia is gaining market share so quickly - comparable quality (both due to Toyota's slipping and Hyundai's gaining) for less $.
@sock: I got the same question. We bought a 2010 Camry Hybrid two months ago. (Great car BTW) The news bulletin at Toyota seems to say they don't know what the solution will be. [pressroom.toyota.com] The ironic thing is that when we went to pick up the car (fully loaded), the floor mats were not in the car. We told the general manager who said he'd order them. But we asked for mats out of another car and got them
























There are a lot of other aftermarket floor mats that could cause the same problem, especially if it bunches up around the gas pedal.