Walmart Store Has No Room For Veterans On Memorial Day Weekend

A scheduling snafu at a North Carolina Walmart led to the police being called to ask a group of veterans to leave the store on Sunday.

Members of a local VFW say they had been told that arrangements had been made to allow them to hand out poppies in observance of Memorial Day, but Walmart says it had already booked the spot out in front of the store for another group.

And store policy only allows for one group to solicit outside a store at a time. The local news report does not explain why police needed to be called to resolve the situation.

Walmart says it will work with the VFW to find another weekend for the group.

Walmart employees force vets to leave the store [WECT.com]

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  1. Straspey says:

    The front of the store had already been rented out to Mexican politicians and business executives and…

    Oh – wait…

  2. StarKillerX says:

    The story could have been titled “VFW screws us and forgets to schedule fundraiser with Walmart” but that wouldn’t make Walmart look bad so we cant allow it on this site.

    • nishioka says:

      No, we just can’t do anything to make the vets look bad. Do that and you’re not “supporting the troops”.

      • StarKillerX says:

        No, this had nothing to do with supporting the troops and instead the writer simply saw a chance to get a couple digs in at Walmart.

    • MutantMonkey says:

      I like how you give the benefit of the doubt to Wally World when it isn’t clear who really screwed up the reservation.

      Also, if you have such a problem with the Consumerist, why are you here? It’s almost as if you are here simply to troll articles and other posters.

      • Sneeje says:

        Sometimes Starkiller is the voice of reason and sometimes the voice of stupidity and ignorance. Are any of us really that different? If you prick us all, do we not bleed?

        • MutantMonkey says:

          I don’t know about you, but I tend to shy away from sites I do not agree with on a regular basis.

          • StarKillerX says:

            Well maybe I see hope for some of you poor misguided souls? lol!

            • MutantMonkey says:

              I would agree if half of what you said actually made sense in the context of what was going on in the articles posted. However, more often than not, you are finding someway to turn the story around on the victim when it is clearly an issue with the offending company. I would give you the devil’s advocate, benefit of the doubt if you showed any sort of support for the actual victims in stories, but you don’t. Instead you go to some great lengths to make the companies the victims.

              • StarKillerX says:

                Again, if the victim writes the story and/or letter, which is most often the case here, then it is up to them to provide the details to prove their case and when they leave out important details a truely fair minded person needs to view that in favor of their person/company since if something helps their case why would the OP exclude it?

      • StarKillerX says:

        Actually the reason I give Wally World the benifit of the doubt in this base is simple, it’s because they are the one the story is attempting to smear and the information provided don’t really show what happened.

        • MutantMonkey says:

          So they get the benefit of the doubt because of what? Possible conspiracy? If you read the actual article, it isn’t at all clear who is to blame for the mix-up. Not only that, but the article isn’t exactly slanted against Wal-Mart. So it seems the one thing that you are basing your decision on is the title and the way the Consumerist presents the piece and not on the actual source article.

          • StarKillerX says:

            Yes, the original article was fairly evenhanded, but then this site turns around and throws up more sensationalistic title to get a dig in at Walmart.

            Actually the fact that the original piece wasn’t put forth in a biased manner is even more damning as it shows that the writer her read the story and then slanted it to suit their own opinion/agenda.

      • Jawaka says:

        Yet the OP and author have no problem making Walmart look to be the bad guys even though as you point out it can’t be determined who screwed up.

        IMO if it can’t be confirmed that Walmart did something wrong here then this entire story shouldn’t have been posted.

    • CubeRat says:

      OK, you made me read the link, but I an still not able to understand part of your comment. What fundraiser?? And what did the VFW do to you?

      Now, to be fair, the VFW and police have many IQ points on the average front line employee that worked on Memorial Day weekend. It appears that someone read the store policy that said “only one group at a time” and just automatically called the police. It doesn’t say that the VFW was causing any ruckus, no one from any group was arrested. But I bet some poor schumck is getting an earfull today after the bad press hit the internet/airwaves.

    • Snowblind says:

      From the article:

      “Maybe we’re somewhat at fault. Maybe we should have called in after our commander, came in and made the reservation and make absolutely sure that things were good,”

      I am the event co-ordinator for my club. Unless I call twice, or stop by myself, the chances are less than 50% that the reservation was passed to the right person.

      Given that we have weekly meetups and bring 30 to 40 people to an event, it is a major hassle when someone forgets, for us and for the establishment.

      I would take them out of the rotation as punishment, but then we would have no where to go.

  3. misterfweem says:

    In other news: People are upset that VFW baby-killers are allowed to pass out poppies in front of local Wal-Mart.

    • Free Legal Advice! says:

      No. I believe that attitude died in the 70s. The only times I’ve heard a vet called “baby killer” were in the movies or on PBS documentaries.

      • MrEvil says:

        My brother in law got called that on his way home from his first tour in Iraq. So it didn’t die in the 70′s. Hell there were protests outside Ft Hood all the time that were in the same vein as the anti-war protests of the Vietnam era.

        The only difference this time around is that the overwhelming majority of the American public realize that these same people suffer from a bad case of stupid.

        • kathygnome says:

          No, actually protests in the 60s and 70s were very pro-soldier, partially because so many discharged soldiers were part of the movement. The most hostile people were the WWII vets, such as my father, who blamed the Viet-vets for “losing the war.”

          Most of the anti-soldier stuff is urban legend that starts about the same time Rambo is released.

          • StarKillerX says:

            Yeah, I guess the hippies spitting on returning soldiers were simply “supporting the troops” as they returned from Vietnam?

            Give me a break, the anti-war movement in the 60′s and beyond were responsible for some of the most vile behavior toward returning US troops imaginable. While it’s true the behavior has mellowed over the last 10 years or so but mainly because mainstream America has been so strongly behind the troops and anyone spitting on a soldier returning from Iraq would likely need to pick up their teeth shortly there after.

            • Nikephoros says:

              Actually, historical scholarship is quite clear that the “spitting” and “baby killer” episodes were exceedingly rare and not at all indicative of the anti-war movement of the era. However, until Snopes does an article about it you’ll just have to find that stuff in peer reviewed journals.

              • JennQPublic says:

                Citation, please?

              • StarKillerX says:

                Silly fucking me, I got my information from the troops returning home who these things happened to as opposed to consulting “peer reviewed journals.”

                Hell even in my little rural area as little as 5-10 years ago many of the same people who protested Vietnam still marched in multiple parades each year behind the vets and showed off pictures of dead and/or burned babies and children, but I’ve only seen that with my own eyes and not read about it in peer reviewed journals so I’m sure it’s meaningless.

        • RandomHookup says:

          As a veteran myself, I have no problem with anti-war protests. As long as no one is hurling personal insults, it’s part of the package that comes along with Freedom of Speech.

      • Broke_Daddy says:

        Then you should have been with me in some airports. One memorable moment was when an old lady screeched “Baby Killer!” at me in LAX.
        A couple of spitters were mixed in there as well..
        People who weren’t even born then don’t understand why I get pissy about the insincere “Thanks for your service.” that some people bleat out when you know it’s just a toss away for them.

  4. That guy. says:

    VFW member Bobby Ludlum thought the organization had booked a space weeks in advance, but the store had no record of it and booked another group.

    So there is a chance the VFW didn’t properly book the spot?

    Also, what was the other organization? If it was girl scouts or something, then the article would be how Wal-Mart gave them the boot (without mentioning that veterans were the ones taking their place).

    • Velifer says:

      No, if the other group was the Girl Scouts, the story would be about veterans of the US military losing a battle to a domestic terrorist group that accepts lesbians and atheists.

      • GuyGuidoEyesSteveDaveâ„¢ says:

        Wait, there are lesbian girl scouts? That’s hot, especially when they are 18+ and wear the uniform.

      • StarKillerX says:

        Velifer,

        No, that would have been the FoxNews version, but the Chris wouldn’t have written it any different.

  5. TheUncleBob says:

    What was the other group that had reserved the space? I’m curious if they made *any* offer to give up their space or share their space?

    • That guy. says:

      Considering it was Memorial Day, I’d bet it was another veterans group, or something along those lines. If they mentioned it in the article, it would make Wal-Mart seem like less of a bad guy.

      “Wal-Mart Has No Room For Veterans Beause Other Veterans Are Already There.”

    • TheMansfieldMauler says:

      or share their space

      It doesn’t appear that it’s up to the organization to make that decision. Walmart only allows one organization at a time, so it’s their decision (and they made it).

  6. KrispyKrink says:

    “Walmart says it will work with the VFW to find another weekend for the group.”

    Since they were there for Memorial day what ‘new’ weekend does GutterMart suggest? Memorial Day part 2?

    • That guy. says:

      Memorial Day 2: The Revenge

      Directed By Michael Bay

    • TheUncleBob says:

      I like to think we can remember those who laid down their lives for our country any day of the year. Didn’t know we could *only* do it on one weekend out of the year.

      • KrispyKrink says:

        The purpose of a set holiday is so that the majority of the populace can participate in said holiday with the same day off from work. You could choose to celebrate Memorial Day and hand out poppies in front of WalMart on June 3rd most everyone else will have no idea why you are there.

        Now, I have no problems remembering any day, I’m a vet myself with friends still serving. But a set holiday is a set holiday, the only day to get your message across to the moronified, zombified, retard masses that are spoon fed off the lame stream media.

        • GuyGuidoEyesSteveDaveâ„¢ says:

          Because June 3rd is the day after my birthday?

        • TheUncleBob says:

          If you’re worried about the actual /Holiday/, then shouldn’t they have been passing out flowers on Monday, instead of Sunday?

          • failurate says:

            The Veterans are busy that day, flag waiving, gun twirling and boot shining. It’s gotta be the day before, like the Vet guy said. All us dumbasses who didn’t sign up to kill kill kill or abandon our families would forget that memorial day existed if they did it any other day.

      • Galium says:

        The poppy thing is only done on Memorial day. Citation needed on the urban legend spitting on troops returning from RVN.

    • ahecht says:

      Veterans Day?

  7. areaman says:

    “Walmart says it will work with the VFW to find another weekend for the group.”

    Maybe Walmart will get it right in 2013.

  8. impatientgirl says:

    At my NC walmart on Friday, they had veterans outside with poppies and Children’s Miracle Network *inside* with poppies. Everyone asking for a donation. It was a mess.

  9. Naked-Gord-Program says:

    It’s all these damned groups hanging outside retail stores which drive me to buy from Amazon.

    Plus it creates an incredible charity bias – what do you want to bet these stores (Wal-Mart, Target, Ikea, anybody) would never allow a gay rights group to solicit outside their store?

    • StarKillerX says:

      Your probably right, although not for the reason you think.

      While I tend to avoid Walmart as much as possible, not because I dislike the company but because it’s such a PITA to get in and out of around here, but in all my visits I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fundraiser outside of one for a group whose purpose is to push a political agenda, which wouldn’t surprise me if it was their actual policy.

  10. raybury says:

    I freakin’ LOVE Target’s new(ish?) policy of NO SOLICITING period, no matter what the cause.

    Now if we can just stop jackasses from parking in front of their doors instead of in, you know, parking spaces, we’ll be good.

    • StarKillerX says:

      I don’t mind, and actually think it’s nice, when a store allows a car wash, bake sale or other similar sale of goods or services in the front of their store to support a local organization, but I don’t really care for what amounts to panhandling

      I do have one exemption to this and that are groups that don’t approach everyone going in and/or coming out of the store and simply is there if you want to donate, such as the Salvation Army at Christmas time.

  11. makaze says:

    I don’t mind the veterans out front, but the rest of the idiots they let out front are a pain in the rear. SAMS club does the same thing. I don’t want to be pestered going into the store, if I did I would go to the car dealer.

  12. history_theatrestudent says:

    Even if the VFW made a mistake in their scheduling the local Wal-Mart should of recognize the significance of the moment/weekend it’s tradition, and made an exception. This is one of the major flaws of the model of Wal-Mart. The corporate office exercises too much control over the local stores, and runs afoul with local practices and expectations. This includes not only blindly following polices that can lead to PR messes, but taking away power from managers to adequately staff the front end of the store.

    • StopGougingMeThere! says:

      I agree. And while I think the counterargument would be that it’s unfair to the other group they could just give them both an extra weekend to try and both groups would be happy. But that’s that crazy “COMPROMISE” thing and in the US of A only losers compromise!

      • StarKillerX says:

        Actually it’s probably less an issue of the charity being annoyed and more an issue of it pissing off Walmart’s customers.

  13. benminer says:

    “Members of a local VFW say they had been told that arrangements had been made to allow them to hand out poppies in observance of Memorial Day”

    Really? What arrangements? Who did you talk to? Do you have it in writing? Was it the cashier telling you it would be ok or was it somebody in actual authority? Whenever somebody uses the passive voice I am instantly suspicious.

    Walmart is private property. You have to follow their rules and if you don’t then I won’t blame them for not allowing you to hand out poppies, even on Memorial Day.

  14. incident_man says:

    “Wal-Mart…….Always low prices; always low humanity.”

    –Keith Olbermann

    The quote still seems to fit.