10 Ways Blu-ray Is Letting Movie Lovers Down

Studios have had nearly six years to perfect the manufacturing, packaging and selling of Blu-rays, yet they’re still having trouble getting it right. The dwindling amount of movie lovers out there who still buy their movies in physical form — rather than rent or stream them — put up with quite a few customer-unfriendly practices.

A spirited High-Def Digest post run downs the numerous ways in which Blu is doing movie collectors wrong. Here are 10 that stood out to us:

1. Retail exclusives. Releases available only at specific retailers often slip out with non-existent marketing campaigns, and many discs get lost in the shuffle.

2. Ridiculous prices. Many new releases carry laughably high MSRPs of $29.99 or more. These are often deservedly marked down, but not always.

3. Terrible packaging. Some box sets are burdened with overly complex packaging that makes it a chore to remove the discs to watch.

4. Rapidfire re-releases. Too often, bare-bones versions give away to full-featured follow-ups within the span of a year.

5. Unnecessary digital copy discs. Once you use the extra disc to transfer the digital copy, it’s no longer useful. Yet you’re stuck with it.

6. The back catalog is still too large. Studios have been too slow to bring some of their older fare to market. Where are Before Sunrise, Before Sunset and Waking Life?

7. Anthology overload. Some movies in long-running series — we’re looking at you, James Bond — don’t merit individual releases, and instead stick to high-priced box sets that force you to buy movies you don’t want.

8. Low resale value. Gluts of discs dilute the resale value of products on the market, increasing buyer’s remorse for those who want to thin out their collections.

9. Tricky re-releases. Studios brand discs as “anniversary editions” while only tweaking the box art instead of adding in new features.

10. Small-studio apathy. Some smaller studios refuse to release many films on Blu-ray, refusing to give their classics the HD treatment.

You’re Still Doing It Wrong: More Blu-ray Blunders!‚Ä®‚Ä® [High-Def Digest]

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  1. Akuma Matata says:

    How about, for me, that Blu-ray was never a very compelling option in the first place?

    • SecretAgentWoman says:

      Absolutely. I have NO desire to buy a Blu-Ray, my DVD player works fine, and I still want to buy DVDs. I have fine picture and sound quality for my run of the mill livingroom setup.

      However, I was disappointed nearly to tears to find my beloved The Muppets did NOT release a DVD with extras. Those are only available on the Blu-Ray disks.

      I am now more determined then ever NEVER to buy a Blu-Ray player. They can kiss my ass.

      • Jevia says:

        Some movies have great extra features (LOTR), while others the extra features are decidely meh, which is why there’s less and less of a reason to even buy a DVD, as opposed to renting/streaming. Also, with very very very few exceptions, there’s never a reason to watch the extra features more than once.

        Since usually the movies with the best extra features will release those on regular, albiet “special edition” or somesuch, discs, there’s usually not much of a reason to spend the extra on blue-ray.

    • icy_one says:

      Yeah man, fuck Blu ray. VHS is good enough for anyone.

      • El_Fez says:

        Way to have Snark Fail. The jump from VHS to DVD is a huge gain in picture quality, archival properties, storage and price point. They look better, they don’t wear out from usage, they take up way less space on the shelf and they cost significantly cheaper.

        The difference between Blue Ray and DVD? They look marginally, slightly better. . . . and that’s it. Blue was an effort by the studios to get a format with better copy protection into the hands of the consumer – plus they get the happy bonus of making everyone buy copies of Star Wars (or whatever franchise of choice is) again.

        • tbax929 says:

          I had an argument with my now-ex girlfriend about this. I told her I can’t tell a difference between DVD and Blu-Ray unless it’s an animated movie, but she said I must be insane. Or blind.

          • Konman72 says:

            As an avid moviephile I have to agree with your ex-girlfriend. Animated movies especially look amazing on blu-ray. Take any Pixar film as an example since they all look astounding.

            They actually end up having a greater upgrade in picture and sound quality since you are going from a 1080p digital master to a 1080p digital disc (unless they did 4K or something but then it is just dropping the res a little not all the way down to 720×480 for DVD).

            • Coffee says:

              You actually agree with tbax if you read his post.

              • Konman72 says:

                Gah, missed that “unless”. However I still disagree since live action movies still look 10 times better on blu-ray and the sound…oh lord the sound quality.

                I really question the eye sight quality of the people who claim there is little improvement over DVD. The very first time I saw Harry Potter on blu-ray I plunked down money for a new HDTV a PS3 and about 10 blu-ray movies.

                • Kryndar says:

                  Agree on the sound, when I played my first bluray I was impressed with the picture quality but when I started hearing background conversations I never knew existed I was sold.

                  • Platypi {Redacted} says:

                    I thought you had to go to the theater to have those background conversations! I wouldn’t have considered them a feature though!

                    /s

            • WalterSinister2 says:

              Oh, thaaaats why. I wondered why it is always animated movies playing on the Costco screens. I mean, there are live action PG films.

          • Booger of Love says:

            It often depends on the size of your HDTV and how far back you sit. A buddy of mine has a 50″ which he sits about ten feet away to view. No discernable difference there. On my 80″, the difference is as clear as night and day.

          • Geekybiker says:

            You have a small tv or bad eyes. The visual quality between blu-ray and dvd is quite apparent if you have a set large enough or close enough to actually see the pixels.

      • Naked-Gord-Program says:

        You sound like a futurist. Beta is where it’s at.

        • HomerSimpson says:

          You people and your new-fangled crap. U-Matic is going places….I’m telling you!!!!

    • dush says:

      I agree, still don’t own a blu-ray player. As long as DVDs are still around and cheaper why buy blu-ray?

    • FLConsumer says:

      I actually bought a Blu-ray player BECAUSE a movie I liked came out on Blu-ray: Ameli√©. It’s the only Blu-ray movie I own and I have no plans to buy others. BUT this movie is well worth the cost of buying a player just to watch it in full 1080p.

  2. Murph1908 says:

    You missed unskippable previews and the inability to to straight to the main menu.

    • NoThru22 says:

      That is number one for me, which also plays into my number two: Movies that don’t automatically resume where you left them off. I hate having to sit through that crap again just to get to my bookmarks page. Blu-rays have always shot themselves in the foot from day one.

      • Robofish says:

        That’s more of a player issue then a disc issue though.

        • Captain Spock says:

          Agreed, the disk itself has no way to save data for resume

        • Captain Spock says:

          Agreed, the disk itself has no way to save data for resume

          • 5seconds says:

            Nope, some discs are programmed to remember where you last stopped them.

            • QuantumCat says:

              Movie Blu-rays generally aren’t re-writable. Even if they somehow were re-writable, most players are not BRD writers. It has everything to do with the player.

              • Sanspants says:

                It seems like a combination of both the movie and the player (I’m not suggesting the disc is somehow re-written). My PS3 is my BD player and some movies resume where you left off, some let you bookmark by pressing one of the colored buttons, and some don’t let you do either.

            • OutPastPluto says:

              That’s pretty stupid, depending on the media for a key programming feature.

              It’s not a big problem or one that requires a lot of storage to implement. There’s really no good reason that ALL disk players haven’t implemented this already.

              Just another reason to use an HTPC…

        • tdogg241 says:

          Nope, it’s a disc issue. It happens with discs that have BD-Java (those with the “feature” of being able to view new trailers or download special features), which is pretty close to all Blu-rays being released these days.

    • NoThru22 says:

      Actually, the author is an absolute idiot. He hates auto-play! Auto-play discs were the only ones that DIDN’T have a million previews and warning screens before the movie starts up. Just pause it and change your audio settings, crybaby.

    • BurtReynolds says:

      I bought the Muppets on blu-ray and was surprised to see an option as soon as the playback started to skip the previews. Apparently Disney gets it.

    • phonebem says:

      Nothing infuriates me more than the unskippable Blu-ray ads at the beginning of Blu-ray movies.
      What Alzheimer’s patient are these meant for? Do they honestly think that after getting my BD off the shelf, taking it out of the BLUE case, and putting it into my BD player that I’m somehow thinking that I’m watching an HD DVD?

    • some.nerd says:

      “Disney Fast Play,” my ass!
      I have a few Disnet DVDs that tout “Fast Play: Gets you to the movie FASTER! All you have to do is put the movie in and push play- no skipping required!”
      Sure, it plays the movie on its own… after well over 10 minutes of previews and commercials for their straight-to-dvd schlock. Skip ‘dat isht and spare your kids the marketing.

    • BigDragon says:

      Unskippable previews and ads at the beginning of movies actually caused me to stop buying blu-ray. It is unacceptable. There’s really no other way of putting that.

    • rugman11 says:

      Except your issues, just as with the entire list save for #5, are not even remotely unique to Blu-Ray. Every single one of those things could be said about regular DVDs as well.

    • Actionable Mango says:

      The number one thing I hate about DVDs and Blu-Rays is when the media simultaneously plays commercials and removes my control.

      Back in the day I bought a combo player that plays both BDs and HD-DVDs (the format that lost the HD war). All of my HD-DVDs either go straight to the main menu or can get to it in one button press, just like all older DVDs used to. For this reason alone I wish HD-DVD had won the format war.

  3. The_Fuzz_53 says:

    How about having to wait 15 minutes to watch any movie from Universal because you need to wait for it to download trailers. There is no progress bar either. You sit there watching a blank screen until the trailers download. The only way around it is to unplug the ethernet cable.

    • Gamereviewgod says:

      Hit top menu or pop up menu when it says, “Loading fresh trailers.” On most players, it should skip them.

      • Captain Spock says:

        what about not connecting it to the internet?

        • amuro98 says:

          That’s only a solution if you don’t also use the player for your Netflix or other network media apps.

          At least the PS3 asks if you want it to go online when you stick a blu-ray in. Unfortunately the default selection is “Yes always go online and never ask me again.” Stupid Sony.

    • nugatory says:

      Thats my solution. Its also my solution for not wanting to let sony update my PS3 software and having to agree to their new ToS. My PS3 is now just a non-networked BluRay player.

      • Naked-Gord-Program says:

        It’s that lack of control which has kept me out of BRs despite having a PS3 and an extensive DVD collection.

        I’ve read that some discs won’t even play without a firmware upgrade. No thanks.

  4. necrosis says:

    5. Unnecessary digital copy discs. Once you use the extra disc to transfer the digital copy, it’s no longer useful. Yet you’re stuck with it.

    I guess your someone who actually likes UltraViolet.

    • BurtReynolds says:

      I think the point is that even with the disc, it just downloads a copy. The disc is pretty useless.

    • cheviot says:

      The digital copy disk does nothing, at least with iTunes digital copies. You can eject the disk as soon as you type in the code. The video downloads through iTunes, not off the disk.

      • necrosis says:

        Depends on the movie.

        Sometimes its DL. Sometimes its on the disk (Back to the Future).

      • jefeloco says:

        Yeah, every time I’ve actually put in the disc and started iTunes, it just loaded a fancy screen to input the code. You can also just input the code sans-disc if it makes you feel better.

        It’s also been a while since I’ve purchased a BD combo that didn’t just include the digital copy on the DVD…

        I haven’t even tried installing any of the ones that we’ve bought that are Ultraviolet though, mainly because I think that service is a crock of crap.

  5. longfeltwant says:

    11. The movies suck.

  6. Preyfar says:

    I used to be the guy who bought all the movies he loved. I stopped.

    As others point out, the unskippable previews and other forced features really killed it for me. If I want extras, give me a second disc with all the extras on it. I put in the movie… it should start the movie right away. Sometimes It feel like 5 to 10 minutes later I’m finally able to watch the thing I paid for.

    So, I Netflix it. If it’s not on Netflix… I really don’t watch it. I miss out on a lot of stuff. The occasional “must see” movie I’ll snag via Red Box and pay my dollar, but otherwise… it’s not worth buying movies anymore.

    http://www.lauexplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/legal-dvd-vs-pirate-dvd.jpg

    This image often comes up as an example when discussing movies, and it’s true. 100% true. Granted, replace “piracy” with Netflix in my case. I went from buying 1 or 2 DVDs/HD-DVDs a month (yeah, I was THAT guy) down to zero. I’ve not bought a single movie in years. I’m not paying $25 for a Blu-ray movie I can’t skip previews on, or is something I owned before in a lesser format.

    • evilpete says:

      I disk like that many of the “included” features are actually web downloads and are *NOT* included on the disks I paid for

  7. BobOki says:

    Bluerays are way better than DVD but too many of the bluerays I see out are just piss poor. I have a few that my DVD copies are BETTER quality. When companies care more about the quantity over quality, thats when theres a problem.

    • OutPastPluto says:

      The better the format is, the more work the studios have to put into the end result. Otherwise, you are left with something that is no better than the DVD. To take full advantage of BluRay, there are a number of things that have to align properly. This includes the original production, the BD mastering, and the consumer’s own home theatre equipment.

      Any weak link in the chain can make the entire effort moot.

  8. BelleSade says:

    For me the biggest factor is just how expensive they are. It’s not so much of a difference to me to shell out so much money for each movie and a brand new player.

    • Blueskylaw says:

      But, but, but, if they can’t get you to buy the same movies over and over and over again in different formats using different players then how will the movie executives keep making their bonuses?

    • tdogg241 says:

      Just wait a few months and they can usually be had for $10 on Amazon.

  9. Major Tom Coming Home says:

    My biggest rant is the Blu-Ray Players themselves. In my experience, they seem very fussy and seem to need firmware updates way to often. The ones I have used also seem to take forever to load and glitch more often than I think they should. DVD was a more reliable and easy to use technology, and for older shows and movies the benefit of going from DVD to Blu-Ray is negligible. The Blu-Ray disks themselves don’t help by having more gimmick content than DVD ever did. Not to mention the best player on the market is a videogame console…huh? Maybe HD-DVD would have been the better next gen format.

    • mikedt says:

      You can thank the studios and the ever changing DRM, codex, add-ons, java, etc etc. for the constant firmware upgrades.

    • VashTS says:

      I use a format called piratebay for my blurays now. It’s a great and it gives you the best bluray experience. I love the DTSHD and True-HD sound. Not sure why people here have so much issues.

      I get my Blurays fast, in a couple of hours and I never get any previews coming before my movies. Maybe all your blurays and bluray players are broken?

      If you’re So sick of the constant upgrades, and previews and utter BS, why not join captain Hook and me ate the piratebay?

    • BurtReynolds says:

      Not that it solves the problem, but I had a low end Samsung model that had those problems. It didn’t have any memory, nor was it connected to the internet.

      Replace that Samsung with a PS3 and I’ve yet to have a “glitchy” disc in over 2 years. I think they all try to talk to the internet and write a file for their special features garbage. Don’t let the disc do either and it gets angry.

  10. Power Imbalance says:

    I never saw the need to upgrade to Blu-ray.

    • Rocket says:

      I love my DVD collection :-)

      • Power Imbalance says:

        Me too, I’ve got a good 200+ but never watch any of them. Netflix keeps me in stock with more than enough new ones, so the DVDs gather dust but I still love them!

      • Power Imbalance says:

        Me too, I’ve got a good 200+ but never watch any of them. Netflix keeps me in stock with more than enough new ones, so the DVDs gather dust but I still love them!

    • bugalaman says:

      you don’t like 1080p video and lossless audio? I’ll never watch a dvd again after getting hooked on blu-ray disc.

  11. chizu says:

    I thought the terrible packaging and the re-releases were also happening to DVDs too?

    • nishioka says:

      You’re right, but DVD is “retro” now so movie studios get a pass for doing the exact same shit they’re now doing with Blu-Ray.

  12. Alan says:

    Mark it up to price and and unskipable previews for me. I finally got a bluray for x-mas, it took me about month, but I finally rented a bluray from red box. After sitting through 15 minutes of previews, I imidently opened up my laptop and emailed warner brothers saying I would never buy a disc again until they get ride of the unskipable previews.

    • Gman says:

      Yah that’s the “rental” versions. They strip out all or most of the special features and add in the benefit of making you watch 20 min of ads before you get to the movie.
      They do the same with Netflix.

  13. majortom1981 says:

    You can always go to your local library and take the blurays out for free.

  14. katarzyna says:

    Huh – none of the Blu-rays I own have un-skippable previews. Did I somehow stumble upon some very special versions?

    • Platypi {Redacted} says:

      I own several that will let you skip each preview individually, but it has disabled the menu button to go straight to menu. Some rental ones are locked in to watch the previews, and one of the Harry Potter ones we own is like this. If you plan to watch the movie, you should plan ahead and pop it in 15 minutes early. By then, you can switch off of TV and to the movie.

    • amuro98 says:

      Some players have different definitions of “unskippable.”

      My DVD player will always obey a “jump to the menu” command, no matter what the DVD wants you to do. “Oh…previews? I don’t think so.” *bzzt*

      I don’t mind having the previews play before the menu, but let ME decide to skip the current preview or skip them altogether.

  15. Gman says:

    “3. Terrible packaging.” – Yup this one is my second biggest pet peeve. Why the heck do some companies put the discs in cardboard sleeves that are all but guaranteed to scratch the disks? Or the companies that stack multiple disks upon one another.

    Just use single disk spindles. or give us paper sleves that wont damage em.

    But the author missed two huge ones:

    1: Ultraviolet: this haphazard mess of a “service” requires at least two different logins to two different services. Won’t play on my apple tv or other tv streaming device [or with itunes]. Requires multiple apps and locations to library my movies and even have some of the movies expire after a set period of time.

    2. Unskippable previews and company logos. I understand “rental” versions having unskippable previews and trailers. It makes sense to me. but why the heck should the movie I purchased make me watch several minutes of trailers or logos before I can watch my movie? Same goes for the piracy warning. Why not let me skip it?

    • kella says:

      Actually, having unskippable previews on rental editions is a terrible idea. There are several blu-ray collections (including Harry Potter) I would have purchased by now, but I saw the ads on the netflix discs and got so pissed I swore off ever buying them.

    • amuro98 says:

      Oh the piracy warning. Ugh.

      And since blu-ray has more room and can support more languages, the piracy warning now appears in more languages as well. I swear one blu-ray we rented had no fewer than A DOZEN piracy warnings in 8 different languages. Some languages felt it was necessary to have both the FBI warning AND the international Interpol warning. All unskippable, and un-fast-forwardable. You could not skip to the menu either. Oh and then we had to sit through a few more minutes of the “commentary blah blah blah not the opinions of the studio blah blah” statements which also had to be displayed in multiple languages.

      5 minutes later…

  16. BurtReynolds says:

    I buy quite a few movies rather than go to the theater. For me, blu-ray, DVD, digital combo packs are worth it at the right price. We usually give the DVD to someone who can use it, and then we have a digital copy for travel with the iPad or laptop. Standalone blu-rays can be had for less than $10 at the right time.

    My biggest problem is that some blu-rays (mainly older movies) look like crap. I make sure to check blu-ray.com or other sites now to see if the quality is worth buying for older stuff.

    I also don’t like sitting through the previews. If I buy a movie, I bought the right to not see more commercials.

    Digital copies as they have been are great as-is. I can use them on multiple platforms, and don’t require an internet connection. If they push out any more of the Ultraviolet garbage, I might start rethinking my purchases.

  17. bender123 says:

    I am a sucker and buy the Disney Animated movie…Otherwise, I have A couple random movies I really like, LOTR and Star Wars. I just don’t buy blurays anymore. Even the ones that I have come out of the box once, get ripped to my media server and then collect dust.

  18. Boven says:

    The unskippable previews are high on my list of Blu-ray dislikes. I especially hate it when they’re for DVD’s or Blu-Ray discs that are “Coming this fall from !” It just annoys me that in a few years, I’ll have to watch an ad for some disc that’s ‘coming soon!” but is already out of print.

    I also find it annoying when a Blu-ray release is actually of worse quality than the DVD version. I’ve run into that on a few occasions.

    • Invader Zim says:

      So have I on several occasions. Its like they think if they can just put it in a blueray case its just instantly better…nT. The same for 3d flicks that are blurry through the whole movie until the 3d effect which is the only clear thing.

  19. legolex says:

    The only reason we’ve done anything with Blue-Ray is because we have a PS3. I own 2 Blue-Ray movies, Horrible Bosses & The Dark Knight. Those are the only two movies that I’d want to watch more than a couple times a year and would want to take up space in my house. Other than that, it’s either Netflix or a regular DVD from Red Box.

  20. sirwired says:

    That is a horrible list.

    Many of the items are self-contradictory:
    There is a “glut of discs”, yet “studios are too slow bringing older fare to market.” (Too many titles, or not enough?) There are “ridiculous prices” yet “low resale value.” (If new disc prices were high, wouldn’t resale prices be higher also?)

    You are “stuck” with a digital copy disc? Toss that sucker in the trash and stop whining about it.

    And the rest of the problems were just as bad going all the way back to VHS tapes; I don’t see what the Blu-Ray format has to do with any of it.

    • amuro98 says:

      Even if you toss the digital copy, you’ve still paid for it.

      For instance on Amazon right now, you can buy the 2-disc or 3-disc blu-ray version of the Muppets.

      The difference in price is $4. The 3rd disc is the digital copy. The other discs are identical (the blu-ray and DVD versions of the movie.)

      Not all releases give you the same choice, meaning you are still paying for that worthless digital copy if you want it or not.

  21. Worstdaysinceyesterday says:

    I never understood why someone would own a movie whether it was casette, DVD, Blu-ray, or LaserDisc.

    • Bativac says:

      Some of us enjoy watching movies that aren’t readily available to rent or stream. Or we like the option of watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze on our OWN timetable, versus waiting to find it for rental or streaming.

    • toodarnloud says:

      dude, I saw an old Laserdisc player with a bunch of awesome movies on craigslist and I almost couldn’t resist. I mean, who wouldn’t want to collect old movies that comes on media the size of a vinyl record?

    • evilpete says:

      Kids

    • dru_zod says:

      Because they like something and want to watch it more than once without having to pay multiple times to rent it? Not that hard to understand.

    • Worstdaysinceyesterday says:

      How many times would you have to rent before you exceed the purchase cost? Even in the bargain bin you are paying $10 per DVD. That’s at least 8 rentals worth. Who would watch a movie more than 8 times? That is the part I don’t get (other than kids – that makes sense). I am not a big movie fan, so watching any movie more than twice in a 5 yr span seems like a waste of my time. I guess if its your hobby…

      And how much do you pay to watch a movie NOW instead of waiting the 28 days for release? Granted there are some older movies on hard copy and not yet streamed, but then I go back to wasting my time watching something I have likely already seen.

  22. CalicoGal says:

    No “resume” button? I couldn’t believe this when I googled it to try to find where this was on my Blu-ray player.

    This is 2012– why do I need to have the time that I left off written on a posty note with stuck to the disc box….

    I must say, however, that concerts are incredible in Blu-Ray…. The Killers Live From the Royal Albert Hall is the whole reason I bought a Blu-Ray player…

    • GoldVRod says:

      You shouldn’t. Hit stop then switch off your BR player when you’re stopping in the middle of a movie. When you want to resume don’t power up the player and navigate to the chapter you were at, just hit play with the unit off and it should power up and the movie should continue exactly where you left it.

      Not every player has this feature though and it obviously won’t work if you’ve watched something else in the meantime even something from the smart features (youtube, hulu etc).

  23. deadandy says:

    I guess I’ll just keep buying laserdiscs in Chinatown.

  24. c_c says:

    Everyone who can’t skip previews in Blu-rays …. just press the ‘next chapter’ button on your remote for each preview. Yes, they should just let you press menu from the start, but for me it’s still worth it to rent a Blu-ray for $1.50 from Redbox because the quality really is so much better than a DVD or even the best HD stream out there right now. I will note I only probably rent a couple of movies a month, so I’m not getting crap popcorn flixs that aren’t worth getting in the highest possible form … but for a good movie that is mastered properly (for example, the last one I got from Redbox was Drive, the visual aesthetic and music were amazing), watching on Blu-ray is a treat.

    • kella says:

      Some discs will block the chapter skip button as well. Then all you can do is fast forward, and of course each new ad will cancel the fast forward so you have to do it again.

      Every blu-ray player should be programmed to ignore a disc attempting to block the chapter skip or menu buttons.

  25. billybob9280 says:

    DVD = good enough
    Blu Ray = better, but not worth the extra $

    • vastrightwing says:

      Exactly! Glad I read through the posts before I posted the exact same thing. BlueRay is competing against YouTube, NetFlix, DVD, TV, Movies, Torrents, books and a whole host of other entertainment options. Yes, BluRay has potentially a better picture than all the other formats, but comes at a price much higher than the rest. You are at the mercy of the production house whose job it is to render the movie to the best possible quality. I imagine that many BluRay releases are nothing more than a transcoded version of the DVD. Why waste time and money making the BluRay movie look better when for most people, DVD is good enough and few will notice the difference. Personally, I don’t own a BluRay player. DVD is good enough, heck NetFlix is good enough.

    • scoutermac says:

      Sometimes I can find bluray movies cheaper then on DVD. Usually at Walmart or Target.

    • Major Tom Coming Home says:

      For a show or movie I really want where the difference is noticeable, $5 is my limit. For something like a foreign drama, pass. $5 extra for Game of Thrones Blu-Ray was worth it to me.

  26. Dr. Ned - This underwear is Sofa King Comfortable! says:

    Not enough Limited Edition Slip Covers if you ask me; or as we call them in the industry, LESC.

    Get with it Hollywood!

  27. scoutermac says:

    I don’t repurchase movies on bluray. I only purchase new movies on bluray.

    • valthun says:

      That’s how I do it. The only exceptions to that have been when The last movie in a series that I loved has finally been released as a box set. At that point I purchase the box set because it’s generally barely more than the standalone movie.

  28. kathygnome says:

    For most people, blu ray offers only a very small increase in the viewing experience over a DVD. I don’t deny that it’s better in the technical sense, but it’s not enough better to warrant a 30% premium in the disk cost, particularly for those of us who’s TVs are moderate size. And it’s definitely not sufficiently better to warrant replacing old DVDs.

    • vastrightwing says:

      Don’t forget the cost of the player. It is a premium over a DVD player. And due to the way they implemented the system, the codecs and encryption can change making your hardware obsolete in a few years, vs. a DVD player which will play DVDs for its entire lifespan. BlueRay is a solution in search of a problem.

      • dvdchris says:

        Really?? The problem is when people took home new HDTVs and started watching nightly broadcasts that offer twice the picture quality of their movies on DVD.
        There are some legitimate complaints about Blu-ray but picture and sound quality cannot be among them. An HDMI connected Blu-ray playing on a 1080p HDTV should clearly reveal twice the picture quality of DVD.
        Blu-ray players sold now are all Profile 2.0, firmware upgradeable via ethernet. Of course, major feature updates like 3-D require a new player. However, these are features, not spec changes that make existing players obsolete.

        • vastrightwing says:

          All of which you say is true, in theory. Given the sheer number of different models of players out there, how hard do you think manufacturers are willing to work keeping their firmware updated? My guess is that after 2 years, forget it! If your player is over 2 years old, don’t expect any new firmware updates. And even if they do updates, are you going to keep your player online? Many people stuff the player in a cabinet with no internet connection. Forget loading a USB drive with firmware updates… too much work for most consumers to deal with. The player will simply stop working on newer discs and they’ll return the disc to the store.

  29. Razor512 says:

    why didn’t they mention the annoying DRM. Encryption requires significantly more CPU power, causing bluray players to become more expensive. The encryption also regularly changes so bluray players need to be updated frequently and they are only updated for around 2-3 years before the companies stop releasing updates, meaning your bluray player has a fixed lifespan as no matter how good the hardware is, after they stop updating it, newer movies won’t work and you will need to buy a new player

    • scoutermac says:

      Hopefully this won’t be an issue with the PS3

      • Razor512 says:

        since the ps3 is a game console, it remains profitable to Sony for a significantly longer time but when the ps4 comes out, don’t count on those updates coming for much longer.

        with standalone bluray players the updates stop when sales drop for the model that you are using are using, then it is no longer profitable to have workers spend time making updates for it.

        with DVD it was not a problem because the encryption did not change.

    • Droford says:

      I have a stand alone Sony blu ray player from 2009 and it still works perfectly. I guess Sony should be trusted since its their format but anyway..

  30. galm666 says:

    Sounds like it’s more how the publishers handle Blu-Ray and less about the actual tech.

    Way to be misleading, guys.

  31. cryptique says:

    I used to think this way. But most of the films I’ve seen on Blu-Ray look noticeably better than their standard DVD counterparts. That was enough to change my mind.

    • cryptique says:

      The comment above was supposed to be a reply to the first comment under this story. Somewhere during the Preview process (which is poorly implemented on this site) it got pulled out as its own comment. D’oh!

    • QuantumCat says:

      Yeah, I understand many people don’t notice (or don’t care about) the difference.

      When I get a DVD instead of a Blu-ray from Netflix, I can tell instantly–to me, it looks terrible.

      It actually kind of sucks–I’d rather not care about the difference.

  32. Tegan says:

    Phil, I forgive you for all the sometimes-irrelevant lists. Waking Life is my favourite movie ever!

  33. sparc says:

    unless the discs are made out of gold, the resale value isn’t going to get any better. We live in a digital world where physical media doesn’t matter anymore. There’s not much that studios could do about resale value.

    #4 and 9 about re-releases could be combined into one and ranked higher.

    #1 is obsolescence….. There’s a general lack of trust in believing that you’re buying into a format that will last. I don’t feel like blu-ray is a format that will is worth buying into before some new medium comes to replace it. Then my discs are basically worthless after shelling out all those big bucks. Easier to just sign up for netflix when i get on some sort of movie binge.

  34. bsh0544 says:

    Why isn’t 21:9 on this list? Why did the movie/TV industry spend so many years trying to get me to buy a 16:9 HDTV, and when I finally do I realize that most blu-ray movies are 21:9? Most DVDs are good old 16:9. Why did I upgrade to HD just to watch movies with black bars on the top and bottom?

    • Kman says:

      Is that what the problem is??? I always wondered about the black bars. I thought that movie screens were 16:9. Are you saying that movie screens are 21:9 and that is what blu-ray is?

  35. QuantumCat says:

    The noisy, sometimes slow-loading, overly animated menus annoy me.

    Seriously, I just want something I can navigate quickly, maybe with a pretty backdrop.

  36. PhiTauBill says:

    The prices are insane right now on blu-ray new releases… a movie should never cost more than $20. Period.

  37. MikeHerbst says:

    Another one that’s getting us right now: Audio mixes optimized ONLY for 5.1 and 7.1 systems.

    Back in the “old” days, discs usually came with a DD/DTS 5.1 mix and a stereo-only mix. These days, they’re all “optimized” for 7.1. The problem? If you listen to it on anything OTHER than a 7.1 system (like my temporary 3.1 system while I reconfigure my family room, or the stereo tv-speakers in the bedroom), the dialog track is WAAAY too quiet and is overwhelmed by the music and fx tracks, so you spend the whole movie turning up the volume to hear the dialog then turning down the volume so the fx and music don’t make you deaf…

    Annoying as hell.

  38. technoreaper says:

    Does anyone see how much lower prices are for Blu-Rays from the UK than in America? We’re getting ripped off here!

    • Raider Duck says:

      DVDs can be the same way. I have a region-free DVD player and will often compare prices on the American and British releases before deciding which one to buy. For example, I was able to purchase Machete from Amazon UK for 5.97 pounds total (which comes out to just under 10 bucks). By contrast, purchasing the same movie with virtually the same special features would have cost twice that from Amazon US.

  39. Quake 'n' Shake says:

    How about the fact that nobody sells a practical 5 disc Blu-ray changer? I loved my 5 disc DVD Player. No getting up to change to disc 2 of LoTR or better yet, have a couple of kids’ movies in the player ready to go.

  40. Outrun1986 says:

    From what I see the players are a problem, I don’t own one yet but they seem like a big scam. The player is what, like $89, it says wifi ready on the box, but the box doesn’t tell you that you need a separate proprietary adapter for the player in order to use it with Wifi, and there is only one adapter that will work with the player. Also the adapter costs as much or just a little less than the player. I am getting a PS3 to solve this problem and I will rent Blu Ray’s from the library for free!

    • clydesplace says:

      Then again, I bought a Vizio blu-ray for my bedroom for less than a $100 dollars that had wi-fi built in, and it works better than the $219 Sony I bought a couple of years ago. That one keeps losing it’s wi-fi connection and it’s Amazon streaming app looks like crap. Check the specs. very carefully before buying.

    • Quake 'n' Shake says:

      I have a PS3, but we bought a Blu-Ray player for watching BD/DVD’s . Sure, the PS3 plays them fine, but it’s sort of like hooking up a PC to your TV to watch movies. Eventually the fan starts running so hard we can hear it whine. Nothing was wrong with the console, but it got annoying. We don’t have that problem with a separate BD player.

  41. rdclark says:

    Most people sit too far from the screen for their eyes to be able to resolve the difference between DVD and Blu-ray.

    And most of the rest wouldn’t care anyway. People don’t care about quality. They care about “everything, right now, for free.”

    • Naked-Gord-Program says:

      When their blu-ray player stops getting firmware updates from the company that makes it and can no longer play new discs so you have to buy a new machine can you blame them?

  42. HogwartsProfessor says:

    I don’t buy Blu-rays. I’m still buying DVDs here and there. If they go away forever, I’ll just have to get digital copies of movies I want to keep and burn them. The BRs are too expensive. Since I only purchase movies I plan to watch again and again, that doesn’t leave many new releases because they all suck. And there are still enough DVDs out there of older films I want to own that I can find them for a long time to come.

  43. mattwillis4 says:

    You know, I see so much bitching in these comments about stupid shit.

    1) Unskippable previews – Those are on DVDs as well. Get the fuck over it and make some popcorn while you start the movie. Seriously, if it’s one with previews you can’t skip, prepare your food then. Are you really that childish to where you can‚Äôt just check something out first so you sit on your couch like a little whiny baby that you already got your munchies and NOW you can to sit through 2-3 minutes of previews? Fucking imbeciles. You can just put the movie in, and then go make your food. It‚Äôs not that difficult. When you come back, it‚Äôs still at the menu where you would leave it ANYWAY to make your grub, and your food is fresh. EVEN BETTER, you can just keep hitting “Next Chapter” on your remote. What a fucking thought right? It takes you a whole 10 seconds to get to the main menu. So the argument here is moot and stupid.

    2) Extra Discs for Digital Copies – Have you never heard of the trash can. You can throw them away if you want to. Plus, most of them now have the digital copy on the same disc as the DVD feature. God you people are fucking dumb.

    3) Excess Packaging – Yes, this can get annoying sometimes, but do I really need to give that many fucks over it taking 5 more seconds to get the disc in and out. Sounds like stupid people can’t figure out how to mechanically operate things and need another thing to bitch about.

    4) I can’t see a quality difference – This does have some feet. There are some movies that got horrible treatments back when blu-ray first came out just to GET ON blu-ray and they didn’t do any work to really enhance anything. The newest ones however (usually) do offer greatly enhanced visuals, and audio. In the case of old films that won’t have much fanfare, yeah they will up the rez, but not really restore it for HD presentation because they won’t get the ROI on it. Learn basic economics people. I dare any of you with a sound system worth a damn to listen to a DVD of a movie, then the blu-ray one with DTS-HD Master audio or uncompressed PCM and tell me with a straight face they sound the same. If you have a home theater in a box solution, don’t even think you have “good audio”. You have basic surround, that doesn’t mean it sounds good. I know that sounds snobbish, but I’m just making a point that HTIB systems have crap audio quality compared to just buying a good receiver and speakers with decent wire.

    5) I have to update firmware – Whoopdie fucking do. Do you update drivers on your computer? Does your operating system of choice need updates every once in a while? If firmware updates really bother you, just get a PS3 instead of a standalone blu-ray player. It boots up in 8 seconds, and is the easiest to update. Do I loathe Sony for their security practices and how they love to screw people: yes, but that doesn’t change the fact the PS3 is the best blu-ray player (personal opinion obviously) because of it’s flexibility.

    Sorry to go against all of the criers in this thread, but BD is a superior format for those of us who are Home Theater Enthusiasts. There is a very clear difference between the formats. Are there things that annoy me, yes. What annoys me more… is the fact people don’t buy things because of “Digital copy discs” or “Oh no, I can’t skip all the previews at once. I have to keep hitting the Next Chapter button!” Get a life and enjoy the damn movie.

    • Saxmoore says:

      “…for those of us who are Home Theater Enthusiasts.”

      Ah, it’s one of them. Typical of the xyz-snobs (music-snobs, food-snobs, etc.). “I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD AND YOU HAVE LOW INTELLIGENCE FOR THINKING THE WAY YOU DO, AND YOUR OPINION IS NOT VALID BECAUSE IT DOESN’T AGREE WITH MINE”

      Look, Matt, different things annoy different people. Just because something that bothers someone else isn’t something that bothers you doesn’t mean it’s not valid.

      • mattwillis4 says:

        I never once said I was smarter nor an expert in the field. What I’m simply saying is these are trite gripes that people get hung up on. There are many other things in life that one can get angered about, but these things are hardly worth the time/energy to be annoyed at.

        So I’m not a “snob” I just like to do things all the way. I am a big movie person, and when I watch movies (not all the time) I think they are something that should be experienced and not just “watched”.

        Yes, I acknowledge there are different strokes for different people, but my question is, why do the smallest gripes like these even matter to people? I gave alternatives to each of the examples given. This is hardly saying people are dumb, more like… “Focus your attention here and just not be annoyed.”

  44. lol456 says:

    When Blu-Ray discs are done right, which quite honestly is most of the time, then the results are incredible. I don’t understand people who want to buy a 55″+ TV, insist on 1080p, best picture quality, etc. and then choose to watch DVDs because they’re “good enough.” Get your eyes checked! I don’t understand what people are complaining about as far as price goes – there are plenty of sub-$100 Blu-Ray players available nowadays, and the movies are usually priced within a few dollars (or are sometimes even LESS than) the DVD. Not to mention improved lossless audio tracks.

  45. z23 says:

    It’s like why even bother anymore. You buy on blu-ray today and next year you’ll have to buy the same damn thing again in super blu-ray. Yet I’m schmuck enough to still buy a blu-ray here and there.