Starz Movies Fall Off Netflix Streaming This Week

Your Netflix streaming queue is probably about to get a bit lighter. As we noted back in September, Netflix and Starz did not renew their deal, meaning about 800 movies will be leaving Netflix’s streaming service by the end of the week.

If you haven’t gotten around to streaming Toy Story 3, Spartacus, Howl’s Moving Castle, Scarface or Young Frankenstein, time is of the essence. To get a good look at all the movies that are going away, peruse Netflix’s Starz Play page.

For burned-out subscribers bitter that the streaming selection was sparse even before the Starz departure, this is the wrong direction for the needle to move. To keep its customers happy, Netflix will have to start producing more deals like the one it made with DreamWorks that will begin next year.

Netflix February 2012 Expiring Titles Including Starz [TV and Movies Now via Engadget]

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  1. RiverStyX says:

    Well their netflix queue might get lighter, but their torrent/nzb app will be happy to fill the demand.

    • Jawaka says:

      It doesn’t justify piracy.

      • Mark702 says:

        Yes it does. I pay the monthly fee for access to thousands of movies. They continue to charge the same fee despite removing a large portion of the content they provide me. What if the $8 meal at Burger King suddenly didn’t include anything but a plain burger patty and bun, no drink, no fries, no cheese or lettuce or tomato or anything? You’re still okay with paying $8 for that?

        • Cat says:

          More like just substituting bacon for the cheese.

          • Mark702 says:

            …Except not. That’d be an upgrade, and we’re getting content removed. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that? I’ll mow your lawn every week for a year, only $100. But if I decide to do it only once every two months instead (6 times total for the year instead of 52), too bad so sad for you. That’s what it’s like.

        • GrimJack says:

          Then cancel your service if you don’t like paying for it. It doesn’t justify piracy. If Netflix cut their price by 25% after this, you’d still be pirating the movies that weren’t available there. You are just fishing for some sort of moral justification, of which there is none.

          • nickmoss says:

            Piracy, by definition, is an act that comprises robbery and/or violence. Downloading a file is not robbery, as the original file is still in place; and, unless one has a dial-up connection, is not violent.

            • GrimJack says:

              Call it whatever you like – piracy is just the common term for it. Why don’t you try to pull out your dumbed down legal definition in court and see how far that gets you.

              • kujospam says:

                It’s not piracy, it’s time delayed viewing. And that is supported by courts by DVR.

                • cigsm says:

                  LMFAO, good try thief, but the courts and those whose copyright you’ve infringed on would be laughing as you pay your fines & / or go to jail.

                  Time delayed viewing is only held in court, IF YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING TO WATCH IT. Stealing a copy of it (eg. torrenting it) is not time delayed viewing, as you are not paying for the license to watch it.

          • nickmoss says:

            Piracy, by definition, is an act that comprises robbery and/or violence. Downloading a file is not robbery, as the original file is still in place; and, unless one has a dial-up connection, is not violent.

            • Jawaka says:

              Call it whatever you want, its still theft.

            • cigsm says:

              You keep trying to play with words. Downloading copyrighted movies is illegal. You are illegally infringing a copyright. The courts, no matter what Webster’s definition says, regard this as “piracy”. You are stealing.

        • FrugalFreak says:

          and imagine the wholesalers of the beef patties and buns were the only manufacturers and they were restricting access after selling to you earlier so they could destroy you so they could open a chain themselves and charge astranomical prices.

          Yeah what if?

        • Cosmo_Kramer says:

          I think what you mean is that it justifies canceling your Netflix subscription. Nobody is forcing you to keep it. I don’t know how you could possibly think that the end of an agreement between Starz and Netflix justifies pirating content that is owned by neither of those companies.

      • pawnblue says:

        Piracy doesn’t require any justification. It is natural for people to imitate and copy. It’s how we learn and how culture grows.

      • nickmoss says:

        The act of piracy is defined as robbery and/or violence. Downloading a copy of a file is neither as the downloader is not committing either of these two crimes.

        • cigsm says:

          Yes you’re right, the actual act of privacy dates back to the high seas days. However, copyright infringement is the actual act of illegality we’re talking about here. This is known in legal circles as “piracy”.

        • Cosmo_Kramer says:

          Oh honestly, this crap? Words can have different meanings, Melvin.

    • UberGeek says:

      It won’t require much to fill the gap. The list of Starz flicks was large but fairly unimpressive. But then again, you might be hard pressed to find a decent pool of seeders for every Cagney and Lacey episode or Gene Autry movie. There’s a whoppin’ one movie on the list that I’m going to watch before it expires.

  2. Power Imbalance says:

    After all their games, this may be the straw that broke the camel’s back and gets me to drop them.

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      Whose games? Netflix or Starz? Because Starz was the one that left the negotiations table.

      • GoldVRod says:

        Who gives a cack? It’s still Netflix taking the same amount of money from ITS customers for less content.

        • Cat says:

          Netflix will just take the money they were going to give Starz and buy different content from somewhere else. You’ll get content, just not Starz content.

          And face it, the Starz stuff was getting a bit boring. Time for some fresh content.

          • GoldVRod says:

            I won’t get the content as I canceled my account (ten year+ customer) a couple of months ago. I do commend them for still allowing a simple cancellation online rather than force you to listen to some dodgy ‘retention expert’ on the phone.

            Really though, it was Netflix’s PR moron Steve Swasey and his thoughtless multiple comments who tipped the balance when it came to my decision to lose them.

            As for ‘fresh’ content I agree it’s needed, but not at the expense of losing Starz (or anything else frankly) which if I were still a customer would have been a major force in my cancellation decision.

            Not missing it one bit.

      • Power Imbalance says:

        It doesn’t matter that it’s not their fault…

  3. kiltedbrandon says:

    They’ve been so slow on the uptake lately that I’ve torrented stuff that’s been out a /while/ only to see it in the menu a few months after that. They may be losing my monthly payment very soon as I’m getting tired of reality garbage and there’s no decent movies anymore.

  4. Captain Spock says:

    Seriously I feel the worst for people in other countries when it comes to streaming… These folks are willing to PAY FOR YOUR CONTENT, yet you won’t offer it. So they turn to Torrents. Yeah, great business model. We are in a global economy, stop all this region limiting.

  5. human_shield says:

    Not good. A lot of what I’ve watched was starz. The studios are getting their wish, destroying streaming and of course encouraging piracy.

    • Excuse My Ambition Deficit Disorder says:

      You are right on with that comment. The downside, more people will turn away from paid content (legal means) of acquiring content and turn to pirated content….which in turn….will put the spotlight on the pirated content this will cause the studios to cry wolf to the U.S. government on lost revenue and put a regurgitation of SOPA and PIPA back on the table. Then the studios can rape us on the cost and we will be right back to Netflix at a higher rate.

      • BurtReynolds says:

        No. Most people don’t see pirating as an option and wouldn’t know step 1 in acquiring materials that way.

        • Mark702 says:

          Maybe 5 years ago it was difficult. Now its 2 steps. 1: Download uTorrent. 2: Download files from Eztv, BT-Chat, Demonoid, or any of the other torrent sites. That’s it.

  6. PixiePerson says:

    I might be more of a TV person than a movie person at this point, but I kind of see the Starz loss, but CW gain as about equal. Sure, I’m losing Howl’s Moving Castle but I gained six seasons of Supernatural recently. And that will keep me a lot busier than HMC did.

  7. human_shield says:

    Not good. A lot of what I’ve watched was starz. The studios are getting their wish, destroying streaming and of course encouraging piracy.

  8. AlteredBeast (blaming the OP one article at a time.) says:

    It often seems no matter how big the selection, I moan about not finding something to watch.

    Last night I put on a random movie on streaming (called Hunter Prey) and REALLY liked it. So there are some gems on there. But still, I’d like a bigger selection.

  9. Alessar says:

    One aspect to the deal with Starz is that they rotate their movie selection monthly, so there were always movies coming in and going out. I don’t think this is actually that big a deal; there are some good movies in there but there’s a lot of filler junk as well.

  10. nbs2 says:

    I just looked at my WI queue. Of 60 items, one expires Wed (Tangled) and one expires Thurs (R&G Are Dead). Not a major loss for me.

    • kewpie says:

      Similar here. Of 167 items in our Instant Queue, only 4 are expiring today. Starz has never had much of anything of interest to me (or anyone else in my family, obviously). I really don’t think this is a big loss for most people.

  11. human_shield says:

    Keep in mind this is not Netflix. It is the studios that are trying to crush streaming. They want to keep up an antiquated system because they can’t see the fortunes made in online instant access. At least not at a Netflix level price point. Example, I want to rent Puss n Boots. I can buy it now, but I can’t rent it. I can’t stream it either. Eventually I will get it through Redbox. I can wait. Most will just torrent it. The studios are just daring people to pirate their films…and they push people to it, then complain about piracy.

    • fatediesel says:

      Puss In Boots has been available on Redbox (and Netflix) since it’s release date. It’s a Dreamworks release and Dreamworks doesn’t delay the availability of their movies.

    • jim says:

      No this is Netflix not the studios. Netflix does not have the money to pay for these rights and could not make a competative offer. I don’t know why this is the studios fault in anyway? This was a deal with Starz who is not owned by an ebil studio. Starz gave Netflix a sweetheart deal that everyone at the time knew was undervalued. Starz wanted a deal that would pay them market rate and Netflix could not afford to do so. Blockbuster/Dish on the other hand was willing to pay the market rate so if you want Starz content in streaming form get Blockbuster streaming.

      Oh and the studios are right there is no money in the internet.

      • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

        No, actually Starz commented they wanted to get out of the deal – I’m sure Netflix could have throw a pile of money at it and maybe they would have reversed their decision, but it wouldn’t have been cost-appropriate and customers would pay too high a price.

        In the end, Starz left the negotiations table because they wanted to, not because the money wasn’t good enough.

    • Jawaka says:

      “Most” will not torrent it but yes, you’ve made it perfectly clear that you will.

      Grats, you’re part of the problem.

      • human_shield says:

        Uh huh. Because when I said, “I will wait for Redbox”, you read, “I will torrent it.”…sucks that you can’t read.

  12. Rebecca K-S says:

    This is really unfortunate. This is where a huge chunk of the good movies Netflix had (well, has, for a day or so) were concentrated.

  13. Cat says:

    Live streaming Starz. And more. http://superusvox.com/

    That is all.

  14. Dallas_shopper says:

    Getting fed up with Netflix.

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      Again, this was not Netflix’s fault. Starz decided they didn’t even want to offer their selection on Netflix. It wasn’t because Netflix thought it was a good idea to drop them.

      • Dallas_shopper says:

        Didn’t assign blame, just said I was getting fed up with it. I feel like I get less and less at Netflix for my dollar every day.

      • aloria says:

        Which party is responsible doesn’t change the fact that I, the consumer, am now left with a smaller selection of streaming content.

        Regardless of the fact that Starz is the bad guy here, the end result is still that Netflix is less valuable to me as a product.

  15. Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

    Khaaaaaaaaannn!!

  16. Bativac says:

    Boy am I glad I finished watching the complete “Have Gun, Will Travel” series a couple weeks ago. If this means lots of the other old TV shows I’ve gotten into are going to disappear, I might just cut streaming loose.

    • Cat says:

      Try this on a computer:
      tubtub.com/

      • shibotu says:

        That’s sensational!

        There was a Greta Garbo movie and a Jimmy Stewart movie playing.

        Is there any way to see the name of what’s playing or the upcoming schedule – it’s still great in any case.

  17. exscind says:

    I really wish Netflix gave an earlier warning window for expiring movies. The last week of every month I discover which 20-30 movies are falling off my queue in a few days. TV series expiring? Fuhgeddaboudit!

  18. PunditGuy says:

    /looks up from U.K. “Being Human”

    Meh.

    /goes back to U.K. “Being Human”

  19. gttim says:

    Eh. You can still get them on DVD through Netflix, just not streaming. I was more upset that I lost “Coupling.”

    Why can’t Netflix and the studios work out a system where Netflix pays the studios for each movie or show watched, rather than a flat fee. (Of course, our rates stay the same.) That would seem to solve a lot of problems. Bad movies or studios do not get rewarded. Good movie and studios make money.

  20. LanMan04 says:

    Meh, I’ll just USE the NET to download what I want. Screw you, Starz.

  21. BlueHighlighterNextToACoozie says:

    Well I’m glad I watched “Life Is Hot In Cracktown” last week. What a life altering movie to be moved by!!

  22. HogwartsProfessor says:

    Starz Play sucked. The quality was bad and it was all stuff I’d seen a million times. The channel is so useless that when DirecTV has offered it to me for free I turn them down.

    Netflix still has a lot of stuff for me to watch. I do wish the studios would get their heads out of their collective asses though. One reason people don’t want to pay through the nose for content is because we don’t have any money. Hello, Hollywood, we’re in a recession. Also, I don’t want to pay more to rent a digital copy than to buy the thing.

  23. Mr. Spy says:

    I keep looking at the Starz new selections each month and sighing. Nothing good has been worthwhile in 6 months. Whereas Netflix’s tv selection keeps steadily growing. If I want to watch a movie, I just get the disc sent to my house. *shrug*

  24. dwtomek says:

    Starz produced a few high quality original series and now they think they are all of a sudden HBO. Newsflash Starz, there is a reason your channel is consistently offered for free.

  25. kcvaliant says:

    I am happy and sad the average consumer has found out about theconsumerist.

    Some will glean useful info and disect facts, the rest of the uninformed, self entitled crybaby majority will just come and complain.

  26. kcvaliant says:

    I am happy and sad the average consumer has found out about theconsumerist.

    Some will glean useful info and disect facts, the rest of the uninformed, self entitled crybaby majority will just come and complain.

  27. Rod Rescueman says:

    Alright I’ll say it now, I TOLD YOU SO! A couple of years ago, when everyone was lamenting how GREAT Netflix streaming is, how they’re getting rid of their DVD subscriptions because “I’m fine with my streaming and it’s just gonna get better!” I told many people (including this board) that the studios are going to start pulling out from services like Netflix and ISPs will start imposing bandwidth caps to protect their outdated cable models. Many people strongly disagreed saying it will NEVER happen. Now we’re seeing Starz pulling out and okay, I was wrong about the ISP thing…oh wait…

    http://consumerist.com/2012/02/time-warner-cable-testing-the-waters-of-metered-broadband-again.html

  28. Jchamberlain says:

    When people complain about Netflix I always pull out this perspective: in the oldern (pre blockbuster) days, you had to go to a small family owned video store with a selection that might have been 600-700 low quality, much played VHS or beta video tapes. You paid $5 a day per video. That bears repeating, $5 a day per video for the privilege of watching a movie of your choice at home. To all the Netflix haters get over it and off my lawn!

    • Lendon85 says:

      Not to mention how much it actually cost to purchase a VHS movie back then. I remember paying about $100 for a collection of my favorite band’s music videos when I was a teenager back in the 80s.

  29. aleck says:

    “For burned-out subscribers bitter that the streaming selection was sparse”

    Would one of those bitter and burned out subscribers recommend a (legit) service with wider selection.

  30. axiomatic says:

    Good fucking riddance Starz. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass as you leave my sight on the couch. I’ll still be watching Netflix with or without your content.

    Don’t be fooled people. Starz originally got 30 million from Netflix, and recently Netflix offered 300 million and Starz passed on 300 million.

    GTFO Starz.

    • jim says:

      yeah they are to blame when Blockbuster/Dish offered them a better deal more in line with FMV. Of course Starz is going to want more then 300 million when Netflix offered Lionsgate 100 million a year.

  31. FLConsumer says:

    Just pulled up my instant queue. Still showing 488 movies. No losses. Nothing expiring soon. Nothing to see here, move along.

  32. roaster says:

    whiny bitches