Angling to get in on the microtransaction gaming action that’s all the rage online and on mobile devices, Sony and a game developer are reportedly hammering out policies to allow games to nickel and dime players to a greater extent.
Develop reports CCP, which is developing the PlayStation 3 game Dust 514 — a massively multiplayer online game a la World of Warcraft — is working with Sony to allow the game to be the first on the system that uses its own form of currency.
We agree with Kotaku’s speculation that this kind of thing opens the way for free-to-play games like FarmVille to invade the PS3. This isn’t necessary a negative development. More types of games should become available to players who don’t mind being shaken down for little bits of virtual pocket change at regular intervals.
The oldest republic [Develop via Kotaku]
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a massively multiplayer online game a la World of Warcraft
When people make this comparison, you’d think it was the only massively multiplayer game that ever existed.
Yes, I know its probably the most popular and thus, most widely-recognized, but harrumph and shit. Also, get off my lawn.
Aww c’mon now, Star Wars The Old Republic just came out a month ago, give it time and I’m sure before you know it people will start referring to TOR as well as WoW.
/goes back to playing TOR
Needs moar end-game.
Its been out four weeks now? Its story based… if you run out the story on your main character, go start another and play that story. From what I hear, the Imperial Agent story is a lot of fun, as is the Soldier.
I’m *so close* to level 49 on my Imperial Agent, and yes. The story is very compelling, and I really hope the story resolution is satisfying. The only problem is that several of my class quests were a bit glitchy, or enormous pains in the ass. (For example, one particular boss is protected by 4 turrets that respawn as soon as you kill them, making it almost impossible to kill the boss)
It is likely that ones the game gets really rolling, more end-game content will be added. I believe they have already added new content that was not in launch.
We’ve already topped out and have rolled alts. I’m hoping for more new content and soon, since the PvP on our server suffers from the pop imbalance.
I think patch 1.1 is dropping today, with some new endgame content. The game is a lot of fun–I hit 50 a few weeks ago on my Inquisitor-Sorcerer, and the storyline was fantastic. Can’t wait to get farther on my IA.
Starting operations tonight, with my guild. We’ve got some catching up to do, but I’m excited to see what endgame will look like.
And you are right, the game is new–they still need some time to fix the glitches and bugs, and to create more content for endgame. WoW is what it is now in part because it had years and years to grow into that. Most of the things it has now, like endgame raids and all that, weren’t present at launch and only developed over time.
I don’t really even like Star Wars and i’m enjoying TOR. Sith Inquisitor -> Assasin class storyline is fun but annoying… everyone’s always out to kill you :/
well, it’s always a good thing when more people start using TOR, but if you’re just going to play MMOs on it it’s kind of a waste.
Ultima Online FTW
Played that for 10+ years myself.
Whatever happened to EverQuest? No one ever mentions that MMO anymore.
I make dust snowmen on top of my PS3.
Hehe. To each their own. I have a dusty heap with the 360 and Wii in a corner.
I guess this means I get to make two dust men?! SWEEEEEET!
Games like Warcraft already stick you for $15/mo for a virtual experience they can take away from you at the drop of a dime.. (i.e. Bans for little or no reason) so I would never pay them more just to dress up my barbie doll a little better. If you don’t have enough time to play, then you shouldn’t bother at all. Lack of time kind of guarantees that you won’t see good use out of the doll you spent lots of money dressing.
They ban people at the drop of a hat, unless they’re hassling and griefing other players, then they just sort of shrug and say “thanks for letting us know, we’ll talk to him, sorry, can’t tell you the outcome” and then a few days later, there’s that level 85 hassling noobs again. They don’t care about anything other than buying gold and sharing accounts.
My partner and I quit playing because we got tired of the players who were a-holes ruining it for us, and because of the overall attitude of ‘EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!111″ attitude. No one could just have fun. It was all about winning..
Bans for little to no reason? Not in my experiences.
There are people on my server who constantly spew racist, sexist and other offensive comments on a regular basis and yet despite my and many people that I know reporting the person Blizzard does nothing. If you know someone who actually had their account banned then they must have been selling gold or something.
It was for my husband using Linux back in Vanilla and they told him so. It was the day after he hit level 60. No number of phone calls would reverse his account.
If what I’ve heard about Dust 514 is correct, you don’t pay $15 a month. There is an initial charge to buy the game, but there’s no monthly fee, and then you can buy many things in-game using in-game currency (Aurum) that is converted from real-life money, and the initial charge to get the game also gives you some Aurum to start you off. The details get kind of complicated, but, because it also ties into CCP’s other MMOG, Eve Online, if you play both, it might also be possible to use playing Eve Online to earn Aurum that can be spent in Dust 514.
Eve online is one of the worst examples you could give. Eve is set up so that, unless you’re jumping into an existing guild or spending money, it takes obscene amounts of time to progress in the game. This is generally the cancer of all MMOs- fluff designed to make the game take as long as possible with the theory that you will keep paying the monthly fee or pay for smurfberries to reduce the work involved because most likely, you’re neither Korean nor unemployed and can’t waste 1000 hours on one game. WoW, Runescape, FF11, BFO, TF2, and now it looks like Diablo 3 will do it too.
“Necessarily”
Why are the typos so bad on this blog compared to others I visit?
That’s what happens when you self edit.
I have to agree.
Do the articles themselves not even have an edit button? Seesh.
I broke up with Sony about 2 years ago.
No, Sony, I don’t miss you at all.
What’s a PS3? It sounds so familiar. Mmmm…
Oh yeah, that’s the dust collector next to the TV which never gets used because my kids are too busy playing the 360.
That’s funny, because when it came out, the PS3 had the upper hand vs. the 360, especially once HD-DVD was declared dead.
Blu ray, backwards compatible, “Other OS”, free PS network vs paid Xbox live, no RROD…
Sony, you have nobody else to blame, you did this to yourself.
My xbox has always had the upperhand in BC than my PS3.
Years ago I wrote a post for Dvorak’s blog arguing that the PS3 was the console to buy. I’ll openly admit I was wrong.
Ignoring everything else between the 360 and the PS3 (graphics, blu-ray, etc.) the 360 has Live!. That’s what all the kids are doing when they get home from school. Even if they’re all playing different games, they’re all talking and interacting with each other. It’s simply more social than the PS3′s offering.
But the PS3 was the console to buy. You weren’t wrong. Sony dropped the ball, big time.
I’m imagining a meeting @ Sony going something like this:
“This PS3 thingy is AWESOME! How can we fuck it up?”
I can’t wait to see what the world is like when these kind of kids grow up. They’re playing Xbox when they get home from school instead of doing homework because parents have fooled themselves into thinking that it’s “social”.
So says someone who has apparently never tried it.
I thought the xbox was backwards compatible and the PS3 was not. Has this changed? Our PS3 is collecting dust as well. Our Wii is basically used as a scale with a built in weight tracker.
Xbox 360 can’t play Xbox games, and never did. The “original” PS3 actually included PS2 hardware and was able to play PS2 games. The hardware was removed after the 60 GB model in a cost cutting move:
How much does GameStop sell them for? More than a new system, in fact. Refurbished 60GB models run $320 at the gaming retailer. http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=64006 . “You may be asking yourself, ‘Self, why in the world is a refurbished 60GB PS3 more expensive than a brand new 80 GB PS3?’” GameStop says on the official site. “The 60 GB PS3 happens to be backwards compatible, allowing you to play many PS2 games on it. Plus it has two additional USB ports and a spiffy chrome front. As a result, not many people are willing to give them up, making them harder to find and thus, a little more expensive.”
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/09/the-forgotten-beloved-60gb-ps3-why-its-still-so-popular.ars
Really? Someone should tell my launch 360 that..
It has never red ringed since launch either, it must be the jesus of 360s.
Really? Someone should tell my launch 360 that..
It has never red ringed since launch either, it must be the jesus of 360s.
Xbox 360s with hard drives are backwards compatible with a select list of Xbox games. Microsoft had to write emulation software for each title, so there are many games in the Xbox catalog that are not compatible, but enough are to make it worth the effort.
The 360 certainly does play Xbox games, but not directly.
The Xbox was a Pentium 3, whereas the 360 is PowerPC. Each Xbox game needed to have a compatibility download, and most…but not all…xbox games had that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360
I hope Sony puts serious effort into picking up the ball they so obviously dropped. MS worked hard to make the Xbox experience overall better than the PS3 experience, in part to compensate for lower specs. If Sony doesn’t step up their game soon, MS may become complacent and stop striving to make the Xbox/Kinect so unbelievably awesome.
People who argue over which console is ‘better’ are stupid. What’s ‘better’ for gamers is having multiple companies trying to outdo each other with what they offer us. Right now, gamers are winning, but if Sony and MS get lazy, we lose.
Headline with the word “plague” in it implies that this is a negative development for gamers.
“This isn’t necessar[il]y a negative development.”
WHA?!
A little bit of editing would go a long way here.
Wow, this article is far too aggressive for what it actually is. I really don’t know how this is worthy news… micro-transactions are hardly a new thing. Tons of people pay for costume changes, added vehicles, maps, weapons and other meaningless addon crap by the millions every day… I don’t see how this is that much worse.
While CCP has a lot of experience at running a virtual economy from Eve Online, their history with microtransactions isn’t exact one to emulate as they had a actual virtual riots on their hands when they did, which crippled the biggest market hubs in the game.
Slightly off topic but, Gamers are sick, the fact that they pay for virtual clothing, handbags, gloves, socks, eye-wear, and a host of other sh!t non game necessary. Ten years ago those were called un-lockables or hidden items, or…..just wow… why would someone pay for virtual clothes?
This may be an unfair comparison, but I see this fitting into the same reason why someone may buy a monstrously expensive car when something a fraction of the cost can get him from point A to B just as well.
People want to show off, want to be proud of something, no matter what world those “goods” are in. I think it’s crazy, but if they get people to marvel at their golden pants or latest sword, it’s worth it to them.
To each his own, I guess.
Do you pay to go to the movie theater and watch films? You don’t get to keep the movie afterwards. You enjoy it once, and then all you have are memories of the experience.
Buying virtual crap is entertainment in the same way, except that they last longer. I have virtual items that I have owned and enjoyed since 2003. Some I paid real money to obtain, others I bought with in-game currency and effort. I’m sure I watched movies in 2003, but I couldn’t name them. If I went back and looked up 2003 theatrical releases, I’d probably recognize a few titles, in a “oh, yeah, I remember liking that movie” sort of way.
When you assign a value to something, either through literal enonomic exchange (i.e. paying money) or through invested effort (i.e. working to unlock said item) the psychology of the acquisition is such that your brain treats it as a real, ‘tangible’ peice of property.
This isn’t exclusive to Gamers, though they are the most obvious example.
Because Reverse Annie and Gentleman Cho’Gath in League of Legends are worth the money
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I dunno. Why the hell do women seem to need more than two pairs of shoes?
Cow Clicker FTW!!!!
But there are no more cows! The Apocowlypse has come, and the cows, they are no more.
I think, in part, because the creator hates these sorts of games; it was made to demonstrate that a game with no purpose, plot, or real content can be successful beyond all reason, and I believe he proved his point. The masses are too stupid to appreciate his game-making art, and instead clamor for the meaningless bovine tapping.
And yet I still click where my cow used to be almost every day…
CCP is trying something really ambitious here.
They are going to directly connect a console shooter with an already existing MMO.
Microsoft told them if they wanted to use LIVE!, they needed to connect to Microsoft servers or to pound sand, CCP wouldn’t agree & dropped Xbox 360 development.
Sony said they would be more flexible but they would need to negotiate the fees.
I suppose I’ll be voting with my wallet and not playing.
Also, to the author. Freerealms, DC Universe Online, Star Trek Online, Everquest 2….
ALL of those games of this already, so don’t for a fucking second pretend this is brand new
I also forgot Champions Online and City of Heroes.
and none of those are on a ps3 or forces you to use the Playstation Store to purchase content
DC Universe Online is, and it already does this.
CCP which also makes the MMO Eve Online, already does this. Eve’s ingame currency is called ISK and can actually be used to purchase game time. In effect if you are a savvy enough player you could potentially use your in game currency to buy your playing time and essentially play for free. The company is just following its own protocols.
I say it time and again: Nobody despises their customers as much as Sony.
Why is this a story?