USPS Shutting Down 2,000 Locations

A year from now, you may be driving a little bit farther and waiting in longer lines to do your mail-related business. The USPS set a goal to shut down 2,000 branches and stations in 2011. No post offices are on the chopping block, but the new cuts are in addition to nearly 500 closures that are all ready in the works. The locations under threat of closure are smaller satellite offices that don’t process mail and sometimes don’t have mail carriers.

The Wall Street Journal reports USPS lost $8.5 billion in the 2010 fiscal year, which ended at the end of September. A USPS spokesperson said only 19 percent of the 32,000 post offices cover their costs.

Postal Service Eyes Closing Thousands of Post Offices [The Wall Street Journal]

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  1. Robertinark says:

    The post office is like working at a 8-track factory in the early 80′s or a newspaper this decade. You may not like it….but the local post office is going away.

    • fsnuffer says:

      Does this mean during Christmas there will actually be five ladies staffing all five lines instead of the one lady working with four in the back on break.

    • Enduro says:

      Where else can you ask someone to deliver a letter for you, to the other side of the country, for less than a dollar? I think the Post Office is pretty remarkable.

      I wouldn’t mind some changes but the USPS is important to the health and safety of the country in my opinion. I’d rather my taxes maintain the USPS than more middle eastern wars.

      • Me - now with more humidity says:

        I was about to post the same thing. It is pretty impressive for sending things you can’t or don’t want to email. I like being able to mail a birthday card on Tuesday and have it arrive across country on Thursday or Friday for a half a buck.

  2. Invader Zim says:

    Wonder how many jobs this will cost?

    • Talisker says:

      Probably 2000, judging by my experience of only one postal employee working at the counter regardless of how long the line of customers is.

      • Weighted Companion Cube says:

        Wrong, the other 10 employees are in the back on break.

        • Emerson7 says:

          Hey, if they weren’t on break it would trigger us all working double shifts on weekends in unheated buildings for pennies an hour. Thank a shiftless union member if you have weekends off!

      • LafinJack says:

        Sounds like the last time I went to the FedEx station.

    • FrugalFreak says:

      at least 4000, you have to have someone in the post office and one to deliver mail. So I guess 5000

      • Posthaus says:

        Many of those stations have ZERO carriers, and maybe one clerk/postmaster/OIC. Most of the latter is probably going to be absorbed into bigger offices that have clerk or OIC positions that needed to be filled ( the idea being to save them overtime expenses on top of savings from closing facilities.)

    • Hoss says:

      You meant, how many people need to retire, right? There’s a union here

    • Griking says:

      I would assume a lot otherwise the downsizing serves no purpose.

  3. Robertinark says:

    The post office is like working at a 8-track factory in the early 80′s or a newspaper this decade. You may not like it….but the local post office is going away.

    • PLATTWORX says:

      The newspaper is going away? How will you know if your mayor is embezzling, there is a town meeting you should attend because Walmart is going to put up a mile from your house, the city has decided to spend a million dollars on something that is waste but will make your taxes go up?

      I shudder to think of what would happen in a community if the local newspaper was not there to play watchdog and report what is happening. Your local newspaper is the lifetime for most information.

      • AustinTXProgrammer says:

        Notices can be published on the municipal web site. As for investigative journalism, I agree that It’s very important. But how many newspapers actually do that?

    • Hoss says:

      USPS is often the best and cheapest way to ship something. Besides, the same location that accepts customers also is use to sort the mail. we’ll always need them

    • Extended-Warranty says:

      And what will be replacing them? Every time I have been at the post office, the line is out the door. Obviously, they need to restructure. It will never go away completely.

    • jebarringer says:

      When there’s another service that will deliver a few ounce parcel anywhere in the US for as cheap as USPS does, then maybe I’ll believe you.

      • Griking says:

        What they need is automated tellers at post offices. If Stop & Shop can do it then why can’t the post office? I can print Priority Mail shipping labels on my home PC. How hard can it be to install 4-5 self serve kiosks at each PO and keep only a few mail processors on hand?

    • Me - now with more humidity says:

      Hey, you’re that modern-day Nostradamus who announced in 2001 that TV was going away. And in the 1960s that AM radio was going away. And in 2008 that books were going away thanks to the Kindle. Bzzzzzt… wrong again!

  4. yurei avalon says:

    Oh great, as if I wasn’t already waiting 15-20 minutes in line at one of the 2 locations in my city of around 85-90k people… *sigh*

    • Hoss says:

      On the other hand, my City is the same size and we got five – not including the many in neighboring towns. But honestly, every one of them looks like they were there a hundred years ago. One modernized office with several windows would do fine

  5. sirwired says:

    “No Post Offices are on the chopping block?” Errr… the fact that a whole pile ARE on the chopping block is the whole point of the article.

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      A post office can’t be removed because of budget contraints, by law. They are only closed due to lack of necessity, say for a decrease in that region’s population.

      They are closing satellite office that do not meet the status of post office, that often don’t have employees or mail.

  6. Hoss says:

    With less POs the lines will be longer. Can they please stop the “anything liquid, perishable or fragile”. “tracking or insurance”, “any stamps, shipping supplies or a post office box” nonsense?

    In one case I left a postage paid box on the counter because no one was there. Walking out I got yelled at because they didn’t ask the liquid, fragile question.

    • convem24 says:

      Hoss, its sales 101 to ask for additional sales/services. They need to do so to get those incremental sales (help cover the gap). I disagree with the practice but understand it.

      • Hoss says:

        I go to the post office every day. They feel they need to ask the question every day or they will get fired

        • mac-phisto says:

          i guess the USPS utilizes secret shoppers to audit their POs to make sure the questions are asked every time. the employees at my university office were actually put on probation for not asking the questions. a bunch of us wrote letters to the postmaster in their defense, but as i recall, they were very near losing their jobs.

          sad, b/c they were some of the best postal workers i’ve ever encountered – always cheery, very speedy & extremely helpful.

  7. Tim says:

    Representatives and senators will fight til the bitter end to have their constituents’ post offices remain open. Some will succeed. In the end, USPS will close about 500 offices.

    Then, the postmaster general will testify to Congress that USPS is losing a ton of money. Representatives and senators will be dumbfounded: how can they lose so much money? FedEx and UPS don’t lose nearly this much money! Stupid USPS. Can’t even effectively cut costs.

    • leprechaunshawn says:

      If you’re setting the over/under at 500, I’ll take the under!!

    • JoeDawson says:

      UPS and FedEx if i am not mistaken… make PROFITS every year. I cannot believe a similar service cannot… logically of course… USPS is not run like a business, it is run like every other government office,.

      • banndndc says:

        It is also required to deliver mail and provide service to extremely unprofitable ultra rural areas like the backwoods of alaska. UPS and FedEx do not have to provide service out there and can charge more if they do. USPS is also limited by law on potential increases. A normal business does not operate under these sorts of political constraints. If they could raise rates easily and provide service only to profitable areas they could make a profit just as easily as FedEx and UPS. USPS doesn’t lose money because it is pseudo-governmental, it loses money because the politicians (mostly of the conservative stripe since most liberal politicians are from urban areas) impose constraints upon them.

      • ARP says:

        So, are you willing to allow USPS to have variable charges based on where you send your mail? Are you going to allow the USPS to simply not deliver to places they don’t view as profitable (maintaining infrastructure to do that costs lots of money)? Sending a letter via USPS is cheaper than FedEx and UPS every time. UPS and FedEx have a different business model.

        Also, Congress controls much of what they can and can’t do. The original comment is right, each congressperson will try to to save their post-office and not allow them to raise rates, but you can bet the hypocritical Blue Dogs and the Republicans will be the first to complain about how the post office is losing money, etc., we need to privatize, etc.

        • NeverLetMeDown says:

          Absolutely. This country already provides absurd subsidies to people who choose to live in rural areas (mainly because they’re radically overrepresented in the Senate).

          I’ll start being fine with subsidizing the postal or phone service of somebody living in North Dakota when they start subsidizing my parking in Manhattan.

    • Johnny Longtorso says:

      Can you send a letter via UPS for 44 cents? It’s easy to say “UPS and FedEx don’t lose money like this”, but it’s not like they have the same business model. The vast majority of what goes through the mail is made up of letters that cost almost nothing to send. UPS and FedEx deliver packages that cost at least like $7-8 to send.

  8. Talisker says:

    Can we start charging first class rates for bulk mail, please? It’s immoral that it costs my grandmother more money to send out a birthday card than it does for retailers to fill my mailbox with recycling.

    It’s depressing to think about the amount of fuel and labor we expend in this country hauling things that are just going to wind up in a landfill or recycle bin from printer to post office to mailbox.

    • Tim says:

      It costs USPS a hell of a lot less to ship bulk mail. It’s already sorted, so they can send it to regional post offices in big bunches. The postage is paid, so no need to check that and cancel the postage. They can also take their time with it and put it on trucks instead of flying it, which happens with almost every piece of first-class mail.

    • sirwired says:

      Bulk mail is pre-sorted, pre-stamped, and in most cases is sorted down to individual carrier routes. It travels only by truck, never plane, like much first-class postage. It costs much less to process such pieces.

    • Ihaveasmartpuppy says:

      Also, It’s easier for machines to read the bulk mail labels, grannies don’t have machine friendly hand writing.

    • jebarringer says:

      They actually make a good bit of money on bulk mail. Much more than they make on your grandmother’s card.

      • George4478 says:

        More money per item? I don’t think so, and that was the poster’s point.

        Of course they make more money off the millions of bulk mail items than the one card.

        • mac-phisto says:

          it’s plausible that even with the discount, the USPS is making more off the bulk mail due to the reduction in cost associated with handling it. bulk mail has many restrictions – it must be machine-sortable, sorted by destination (zip) & dropped off ONLY at specific facilities that service bulk mailing. grandma’s card often takes a much different trip & requires contact with many more USPS employees & contractors.

    • arualflower says:

      I completely agree with that suggestion!

    • physics2010 says:

      If the Post Office only handled legitimate mail (non junk mail) then the cost would be similar to deliver a letter using UPS or Fedex. Much more expensive.

  9. shthar says:

    It’s time for the govt to take it back. The whole privatisation of it was illegal anyway.

  10. Invader Zim says:

    Its like they are trying to sugar coat closing 2000 locations by making sound like no one or only one person worked there. If that was the case I dont think those POs would have existed to begin with. Oh wait they said “sometimes don’t have mail carriers”. I guess sometimes means once in a while the closing office may not have carriers, which means that a lot of them will have carriers and thus employ more than one soul. Hahah Vague Much

    • goodfellow_puck says:

      Satellite locations often don’t have any PO employees at all since they operate in other businesses. For example, one location in my city is in a bakery and run by it’s employees. They are very different from full service, mail sort facilities.

      • AustinTXProgrammer says:

        How much could those locations cost? My guess is they are closing the branch and satellite offices like the one near my office. The single employee at the location is always busy, but I’m sure they loose a ton of money.

        Any of these that do have carriers will simply force the carriers to work from another office. No big deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are able to reassign most of the affected employees and cover the difference through attrition.

  11. Red Cat Linux says:

    We lost the village satellite post office a few years back. Honestly, it was only the place I went to drop off pre-paid packages for mailing. I never went there otherwise.

    The main post office here has an unfortunate Mayberry syndrome going on. Four people at the desk, and a line out the door, and nobody is in any sort of a rush. When I can do it online, I will, rather than waste an hour and a half in the post office line.

  12. PLATTWORX says:

    The Post Offices two problems are:

    1. Outdated union agreements that force them to overstaff, overpay, provide benefits unheard of these days, etc. My own carrier admits he sits in his truck most of Saturday because his union requires he works X hours and his route takes 1.

    2. The city I work in has FOUR post offices. One is huge and could service the entire city IF they opened all 8 customer service windows at peak times instead of 2 and causing a line wrapping out the door.

    You can stand there and see the post office throwing money out the window but congress won’t do what is necessary for them to reorganize.

    • MrEvil says:

      Before you go blaming these problems on the unions. UPS is union too, manages to run things efficiently and turn a profit. So it’s not necessarily the unions’ fault.

    • ablestmage says:

      I won’t get into the union mess (which is more often a disgraceful concept in general, than helpful) but some major revisions that the PO’s around here could use would make things SO MUCH BETTER..

      1. Just about every PO I’ve been to has a terrible lobby layout. If they arranged their lobbies to actually match the (a) available floor space and (b) number of patrons who do actually use it, then much more could be done.

      2. Almost every PO I’ve been to has their PO box section MAXED OUT on rentals. How is it that each new PO only has this tiny little array of PO Box slots, and within seconds they’re instantly all taken up? Why does the PO not have an epically giant PO-Box hallway several blocks long? That’s easy money.

    • squeakywheel says:

      sad to hear about the underworked carrier you have- that’s not typically the case. my hubby is a carrier and NEVER knows what time he’ll be finished delivering- due to the “new high-tech sorting machines” they’ve implemented- he could finish for the day anytime between 3:30 and 7:30pm- who the he** wants their (junk) mail at 7 at night??? it’s a baddddd situation the usps has going on right now- it will ONLY get better when the top-heavy organization starts chopping just like every other industry has been forced to do….true stuff….

      • Me - now with more humidity says:

        Yep. Our carrier works his ass off in all kinds of weather. I appreciate the guy. Kudos, Harvey!

  13. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    The Canadian solution was to shut down gov’t run post offices and outsource to franshisees – despite having a powerful Canadian postal union. Authorized convenience stores and drug stores (ie: Shoppers Drug Mart – the Canadian equivalent of Walgreens) have a dedicated postal counter where you can pick up & drop off mail & parcels & rent PO Boxes. The benefit is more postal outlets per sq.mile and shorter lines.

    • There's room to move as a fry cook says:

      Note – this outsourcing only affects retail postal outlets. Mail is still delivered by Canada Post. Closed gov’t post office buiukdings were sold off.

      • Hoss says:

        Where is the local mail sorted for delivery? And if it’s not sorted locally, how does the postal worker get the mail for delivery?

        I’m asking because if you sort in a building, it doesn’t save any overhead not to sell stamps and take in packages, does it?

        • There's room to move as a fry cook says:

          Sorting is typically done in fewer, larger, and more automated facilities than in the US. These facilities are more likely to be in industrial areas than retail areas. Not sure if it’s correlated but mail delivery times are longer than in the US.

  14. HippieLawChick says:

    Has anyone found a list of the ones set for closure?

  15. jp3 says:

    I pay for all my necessary shipping online.

    If they had a real online presence with a easy-as-pie solution for the average person, I think they’d be far more successful.

    There’s no charge for many boxes online and they’ll physically drop them off at your house for free. When you’re ready to ship, they’ll come pick it up for you…

    I don’t see how it can get any easier. They’re basically spoonfeeding you.

    If they could make the rest of their services that easy, there would be almost no reason to ever go to the post office.

  16. Razor512 says:

    I guess I will be switching to UPS pretty soon.

    USPS is driving them self into the ground, they cut back on service and convenience which is the main reason why most people use it.

    Also if you compare the price to UPS when you add the same shipping options/ services such as signatures and stuff, USPS comes out to just as much money, especially with their new rates.

    The more they cut back, the less people will use their service, which in tern will cause more cutbacks, this cycle will eventually lead to them going out of business.

    If they were to increase their services by opening more locations and hiring more people and working to make faster delivery times that can rival UPS and fedex then more people will switch to USPS.

    Keep in mind that usps is slightly cheaper than UPS and Fedex but most online stores and businesses use fedex and UPS, the reason is better service. Businesses like to save money but will not willingly sacrifice service quality for a little bit of savings because customers like good service.

    USPS has slow shipping times which got slower since the cutbacks that are already in place.

    • MrEvil says:

      and before people start blaming the postal Unions its worth noting that many UPS employees are members of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. Yet UPS manages to remain in the black.

    • JulesNoctambule says:

      USPS has slow shipping times? Funny; my experience tells me the opposite. I send dozens of packages every week, almost all of them First Class, and rarely do any of them take more than three business days to arrive no matter where in the country they’re sent.

    • Powerlurker says:

      Businesses also use UPS and FedEx because they get corporate rates that are significantly cheaper than what consumers pay. USPS isn’t allowed to do the kind of discounting for high volume parcel shippers that UPS and FedEx do. My mom once had to overnight an envelope to my dad when he was out of state and used her company’s preferred shipper (many big corporations will let employees make personal shipments through them at the corporate rates because it helps keep the volume up, further reducing prices.) It cost less than $6.

    • Razor512 says:

      For me, compared to their competitors, USPS is slow while charging similar prices.

      try shipping something using usps, then require a signature and other stuff like you would get when you ship with UPS then compare the price.

      Recently, I ordered a product and it came via USPS from NJ, I live in NY

      It took 3 days to come (priority mail)

      when I order from newegg which also has a shipping center in NJ, the packages come in day

      I also ordered a calculator from the amazon market place, the seller was in NY, I live in NY, they used parcel post.

      the item took about 8 days to come, it is like USPS purposely delayed the product to make parcel post less desirable when people want to save money while still getting ok shipping times for short distances.

  17. Schmullus says:

    It’s no surprise they are losing money left and right. Just last week, I placed an order from Amazon. I happen to live about 50 miles from their Northern Nevada warehouse. When they aren’t operating like utter morons, it makes one mid-point stop, at the hub in Reno, NV, before arriving in town. Instead, this package went from the warehouse, through Reno all the way to Union City, CA (~350 miles out of the way), then turned around and went right back to Reno the same way it came, and then delivered to me. I waited an extra 3 days for something that has always taken a day to get here. How many other countless packages get misrouted this way every day? Not to mention the loss of business from people like me who are fed up with the incompetence?

    • AustinTXProgrammer says:

      FedEx and DHL have done that too me (with the smart post and equivalent services, but before being passed to USPS).

    • Terron says:

      I ordered some stuff from Amazon and it took 3 weeks to get here. Granted, it traveled across the country. But it’s really annoying when you see it sitting in California for 2 weeks with nothing going on, then the next day it is finally sent to kansas, then to the state above mine. Then it gets to my local post office and it sits there for 3 more days before it is delivered.

      • Me - now with more humidity says:

        And I get things from Amazon that make it from out west to Florida in 2-3 days. Your experience is not the only experience.

  18. PunditGuy says:

    I’m super confused about something.

    The locations under threat of closure are smaller satellite offices that don’t process mail and sometimes don’t have mail carriers.

    What DO they do? Sell stamps? Collect mail to take to a station? A vending machine and a mail box can accomplish those things.

    • Posthaus says:

      They are usually a retail window and a bank of P.O. boxes.

    • Mom says:

      The “satellite office” in my neighborhood is a regular post office. Complete with PO boxes, stamp machine, counter, and a line going out the door. It’s been there since 1928. Apparently the fact that they ran out of space and moved the mail carrier annex someplace else makes it “not a real post office”, so it’s now scheduled for closure.

      Never mind that when they moved the carriers out to the carrier annex they told us “nothing will change. Your service will still be the same.”

      • Posthaus says:

        It’s hard to say.. they want to keep some retail operations intact , if also for the issue of P.O boxes and picking up left notice items. AFAIK the move is to first target small locations that are out of leased properties, not stations operating out of USPS-owned facilities. USPS buildings my still be utilized as annexs to a degree, maybe with some closing. or operating in less limited form than present. But if the plan goes through, I believe the stations you will see disappearing the most are small offices operating out of strip malls,and other shared (leased) spaces.

  19. Johnny Longtorso says:

    If I could ship things media rate using the automatic postage machine, and if the fucking mailman would actually try to deliver packages than just leaving a “sorry we missed you!” slip (even when I’m home at the time), then I’d never need to interact with an actual postal service employee at the post office.

    • DJ Charlie says:

      Consider yourself lucky.

      About a month ago we ended up with a new mail carrier. And no letters or packages came in.

      Over the past month, our mail has ended up in other mailboxes scattered around town, and in 2 cases in the NEXT town over! Now before you say “it’s not the carrier’s fault!” let me point out that the local postmaster said “I don’t know why, but she’s taking mail WAY off her route to the next town over!”

      When she stuffed our neighbor’s mailbox with a still-wrapped bundle of sales circulars that was the last straw for the postmaster. He can’t fire her (thanks union!), but he DID reassign her to working in the back of the post office.

  20. zibby says:

    Hell, I volunteer my neighborhood branch for closure…meanest bunch of people you would ever want to meet, and utterly incompetent. Get rid of ‘em, I’ll make do.

    • crescentcityblues says:

      Me too. My local is horrible, and the carriers are worse! My local branch UNPLUGGED the automated postal machine (guess they couldn’t take the competition). I have actually heard mail carriers on their cell phones complaining that it takes too long to open each apartment box (it’s one key for 4 mailboxes in my building) and not reading the letter to see which box it goes in. My wife thinks that once courts start using electronic means, that’s basically it for USPS.

    • squeakywheel says:

      you should send a formal complaint to the postmaster of your local facility- these things DO matter- also, be aware, ALL clerks and carriers are seriously overworked- the usps is top-heavy- things should be getting better w/ the new postmaster that was sworn in in feb., time will tell :)

  21. Mold says:

    Most of the private firms offer crap wages, skimpy benefits and then claim you are an ‘independent contractor’. USPS can’t lie…they are government.
    It was never about making money for the idiot proles…it was about information and nation building. But then, having a modest pension must seem like excess to folks living in Mom’s basement.
    Have you ever just agreed with a blithering idiot to make them go away so you can finish your work? When some person in urine-soaked pants asks you if the Mooninites have invaded Boston…do you say yes to avoid any further interaction?
    How about the USPS gets into the Intertubes business and undercuts the current monopolies on cost while increasing speed? Other municipalities have done so.

    • NeverLetMeDown says:

      Municipalities haven’t done so without using the power of taxation. The projects have never earned enough to justify the tax dollar investment.

    • Jimmy37 says:

      Not making money is one thing. Being another excuse for welfare is another. Have you ever heard of Smartpost? UPS and FedEx have figured out that it’s cheaper for them to hire the USPS to actually deliver a package to your door, after they ship it to you city. Why should they lose money doing that when the government is already doing that.

  22. Pax says:

    My hometown has a main post office, and a smaller one …. only three or four blocks away.

    The smaller one is the historical, OLD post office, from the 19th century (the interior is fully modern; only the address and physical space was retained). Mostly, it’s a bunch of P.O.Boxes, and a couple employees whohandle the daily business-crowd traffic.

    The larger one is actually a regional sorting hub. :)

    I wonder if that smaller office is on the chopping block?

  23. Jimmy37 says:

    It’s about time. If you want to see how Obamacare will play out, just look at how bloated and unsuccessful the USPS is.

  24. puTTY says:

    In Canada, they did a couple things with the post office that, in hindsight made a lot of sense and would work great for the USPS.

    1) They eliminated Saturday delivery. People complained at first but the sky didn’t fall, Fed Ex picked up weekend business and life went on and Canada Post saved a lot a money.

    2) While they closed many post office locations, they made deals with a popular drugstore called Shoppers Drug Mart to put mini, post office locations in their retail drug stores which were already everywhere. Canada post was able to effectivly “sell” post office locations to retailers. Everyone goes to the drugstore occasionally, why not make that also include a visit to the post office. it took a little getting used to but it was good for everyone involved, Canada Post, Shoppers Drug Mart and the consumer. Think kind of like of how the drug stores used to develop film…

  25. Cetan says:

    Cards and small things that require one stamp, sure, USPS is nice for that occasional letter. Otherwise, I’m using FedEx or UPS.

  26. quail says:

    Actually, some post offices should completely go ‘bye-bye’. Some post offices were built with pork barrel politics and were put in places where they were not needed. I feel for anyone who’s going to lose a job over this, but if its going to have a healthy future it has got to be done.

    And yes. Less people use the post office on a day to day basis than we did 10 years ago, but it is still a needed service.

  27. gman863 says:

    Some people are confusing “satellite” versus “contract” Post Office locations.

    A satellite office is usually a stand-alone building owned or leased by the US Government and staffed by USPS workers. It offers counter service and PO Boxes only. No mail is sorted or delivered from the location.

    A contract Post Office is just that. An existing retail business signs a contract with USPS to provide shipping services and stamp sales. In exchange, the retailer is paid a percentage of the postage sold in exchange for providing the floor space, labor and utilities. Other than a scale and a few signs, it costs the Post Office basically nothing to operate.

    The Ace Hardware in my neighborhood has one – it takes up about 150 square feet at the back of the store. My guess is the store makes more money off the traffic than the postage revenue. More than once I’ve gone there with the sole intention of shipping something, only to end up leaving with $20-$30 in helpful hardware purchases.

    Like Canada Post, the USPS could save millions ramping this idea up (they have already done this with Office Depot). If they could contract out PO Box locations as well it would likely cure a lot of the defecit with little or no hardship on people in smaller towns.

  28. LCE167 says:

    I think we all have a hand in some of the UPS problems. Email is costing them millions. Very few in my neighborhood receive any bills in the mail having opted to go paperless. Sometimes it looks like all the postal service has left is bulk mail. It’s no wonder they are in the red. As far as Fedex or UPS is concerned, if you get on blogs discussing either you see some very upset folks venting about their sometimes not so great service. The postal system needs some serious revamping, but it may be politcal suicide to try it. No matter what you try to revise someone will be made as ( ).

  29. LCE167 says:

    I think we all have a hand in some of the UPS problems. Email is costing them millions. Very few in my neighborhood receive any bills in the mail having opted to go paperless. Sometimes it looks like all the postal service has left is bulk mail. It’s no wonder they are in the red. As far as Fedex or UPS is concerned, if you get on blogs discussing either you see some very upset folks venting about their sometimes not so great service. The postal system needs some serious revamping, but it may be politcal suicide to try it. No matter what you try to revise someone will be made as ( ).

    • lovemypets00 - You'll need to forgive me, my social filter has cracked. says:

      I agree. I also blame banks and credit card companies. I switched to paperless billing and online payments as soon as I possibly could to avoid their crazy late fees. Consumers were completely at the mercy of when the bank/card company “said” they received the mailed payment.

      Geez, even the IRS considers taxes paid on time if the envelope is postmarked April 15.

      I would probably still be mailing payments if there wasn’t such a huge penalty a check arriving a day after the due date, even though it was mailed well in advance.

  30. valen says:

    “The locations under threat of closure are smaller satellite offices that don’t process mail and sometimes don’t have mail carriers.”

    In our large metropolitan area (population 2 million), this means pretty much every post office except the large downtown post office. Every other post office in town decided to collectively retire their mail sorting and processing equipment sometime around 2005. That was around the time that the local 3rd class city newsletter went from next day distribution to “sometime next month.” After several residents complained about getting a month old obsolete newsletter, the city was forced to produce their newsletter 2 months ahead of time to cover the extremely long distribution time.

  31. gnimsh says:

    I mailed a package 2 weeks ago and they actually made me buy a $3 roll of tape to tape it up instead of using the tape gun RIGHT NEXT TO THE COUNTER. Very surprising, but very telling.

  32. gnimsh says:

    I mailed a package 2 weeks ago and they actually made me buy a $3 roll of tape to tape it up instead of using the tape gun RIGHT NEXT TO THE COUNTER. Very surprising, but very telling.

  33. kathygnome says:

    We have a lot of these locally (Cape Cod). There’s no reason for them to be there, but they get saved politically. The local Congresscritters grandstand and make phone calls and all that and and the little office that services 10 little old ladies a week stays open.