Phones Loaded With Porn Rarely Go To People Who Appreciate Them

As if parents didn’t have enough of a reason to hesitate to give their 10-year-olds cell phones, now they have to worry that the devices will be loaded with images that are quite a bit more graphic than what kids will see in elementary school sex-ed videos.

A little more than a month after a Detroit woman bought a phone loaded with explicit footage, a Colorado boy found a dirty text and video on a phone his parents bought him.

“It’s scary, trying to explain to a child what’s there and what it is, it’s unfair to him,” the boy’s mother told TV station KDVR 31.

A manager at the shop where the phone was purchased told KDVR that they erased some of the lewd material but didn’t think to wipe the texts. The store issued the family a refund.

Denver-area boy’s new cell phone preloaded with pornography [KDVR 31]
(Thanks, Chris!)

Previously: “New” Sprint Phone Pre-Loaded With Porn

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  1. Youkbacca says:

    oh, most of the time it does….it just never gets reported. most people arent going to whine when they get free porn. moan, maybe

  2. DariusC says:

    “It’s scary, trying to explain to a child what’s there and what it is, it’s unfair to him,” the boy’s mother told TV station KDVR 13.

    In other words, you are scared to explain the human body to your son? It’s unfair that he has to lean that? What the heck is up with this lady? Do they not make parents like they used to?

    • chefboyardee says:

      +1 for being faster than me!

    • courtarro says:

      “Like they used to”? You mean back when people never discussed sexuality with their kids (even into puberty), or when married TV couples slept in separate beds on screen? Heh!

      • DariusC says:

        Whoa whoa! Not quite that far back, how about a happy medium? I think if parents just let their kids have some privacy rather than being on them at all times of the day to do whatever, they would grow up to be happier people (unlike myself, who loathes the world) (kidding).

    • It'sRexManningDay! says:

      Images of graphic sex can seem scary and violent to a child. Helping a child understand how the human body works is totally different than exposing the child to sex acts he does not have the maturity to understand.

      I actually can’t even believe I have to post this to illustrate the difference for you people.

      • DariusC says:

        Looks as if someone asked your avatar what sex was?

        Anyways, I understand how you can come up with that idea, but they will figure it out as they get exposed to it. The first time is always shocking and eventually they will understand what it is. Everyone gets desensitised eventually!

        • It'sRexManningDay! says:

          First of all, Telly is way too young to watch porn, let alone explain it to the other Sesame Streeters. :)

          Of course kids are going to be exposed to things as they get older and curious. I’m not naive enough to think that kids are completely innocent and not curious about sex. Some kids mature faster than others, so there’s that element, too. But I think there is content that crosses the line. Most porn sends messages not just about sex, but about adult power differentials. If your kid is exposed to it too soon, I think it can have a negative effect that could take a long time to untangle.

          • DariusC says:

            Yes, Little Johnny could be rocking in the corner trying to figure out why that many was hurting that lady by stabbing her repeatedly in the groin with the sharpest object on his body.

        • trey says:

          yep, thats it… they dont make parents like they used to. by the way, how did they “make” parents the way they used to?

          “The first time is always shocking and eventually they will understand what it is”

          that was so damn funny to read… growing up you must have had a hard (or maybe soft) time with the ladies.

      • axhandler1 says:

        Yep. Explaining the human body and how it works to your child is way different than explaining why adults engage in various sexual acts. And really, it should be up to the parent at what age level they want to have that talk with their child. However, in today’s society, kids have access to such an abundence of information, it’s hard to keep this sort of thing away from them. Best to just have the talk early and try and explain it as best you can. I’m sure lots of things are “scary” when you have a kid, but as a parent, you have a responsibility to help your child understand and deal with what they encounter in the world. And it’s pretty certain they will encounter pornography at some point.

      • xxmichaelxx says:

        Lots of things seem scary to a child – that’s why you explain them instead of hiding from them. It’s called parenting.

        Also, since you didn’t see the porn in question, your comment is as pointless as all the others here, including mine.

        • It'sRexManningDay! says:

          I’m glad we can all be pointless here together.

          It’s true I didn’t see what the kid in the post saw. If it was a grainy snapshot or a context-free dirty text, then I completely agree–tell your kid that grownups do some things kids don’t do and it’s completely natural, then move on. My other comments relate to the larger issue of what’s appropriate for kids and when. I didn’t realize i was the only person on this site who sometimes takes a core issue/story and relates it to a broader topic of discussion. My mistake.

    • pantheonoutcast says:

      Scary = difficult.

      It’s easier to just give a 10 year old an internet-enabled smartphone and let him figure it out on his own.

      • Griking says:

        I’m not a prude but it really depends on the porn. Sex in general of course is natural but I don’t think I’d want my son or daughter’s first exposure to sex to be a gang bang, anal or something where the female is asking the male to spank her ass.

        • Arcaeris says:

          I don’t know about the gangbang, but every girl I’ve ever dated has asked me to spank her ass when we’re going at it?

    • myCatCracksMeUp says:

      Your comment is way off base from reality.

      Explaining the human body and basic sexuality has NOTHING to do with what you see when you’re seeing porn.

      Porn is not appropriate for kids to see. It often doesn’t even reflect what most people do, and even if it did, it’s appropriate for adults, not kids.

      I think you need to grow up before becoming a parent.

      • DariusC says:

        Yes, people do (at least attempt) what they do in porn movies. I saw the stuff when I was 12 and quickly learned what was happening :)

        When did you become the bastion of truth when it comes to parenting?

      • c!tizen says:

        Actually, I think porn is the basis of raw, untamed human sexuality. It’s the animalistic nature beneath the christian impression that missionary is the only decent way to go.

        Deep down we all know what to do, it’s nature, but I agree that 10 is probably a bit too young. Depends on the maturity of the child though, some kids are really mature for their age.

        • It'sRexManningDay! says:

          No to go too far of-topic, but most porn really is not the raw basis of human sexuality, at least not female sexuality. Your average, made-for-straight-dudes porn generally glorifies the idea that women solely derive pleasure from getting their partner off. In real-sex reality, most women actually want to be pleasured as well as pleasure (missionary be damned), and the mature men they’re with also derive pleasure from what they do with/to their female partner. Real sex is very different from, and way better than, porn.

          • DariusC says:

            There we go, we have a femnist. What happens in nature? The male and female get together to reproduce. Inadvertently, the male experiences pleasure and the female does not always reach that peak. That is how the world works (for the most part). And don’t go on about your bible thumping explaination about how humans are superior to animals, I have heard it before.

            • It'sRexManningDay! says:

              That is the first and only time this atheist has ever been referred to as “bible-thumping.” Laughable.

              Human sexuality is complex; we as a species have evolved to do better in general when both male and female parties enjoy the event. How else do you explain the clitoris? As others have noted in the thread, pornography is a distorted and narrow view of human sexuality. I don’t care who watches it or gets off on it, but please don’t delude yourself into thinking it is anything at all like real sex.

              • DariusC says:

                I must be having some great sex then…

                But I digress… I apologize for insulting you with the bible thumping names, a fellow athiest is always a friend :)

              • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

                In all of the porn I see, the women seem to be enjoying themselves just find and appear to have orgasms.

          • Wrathernaut says:

            Please, go on for about 2 more minutes…

          • c!tizen says:

            I wouldn’t argue against this fact if I’d never seen a porn where the woman gets off, but, as a matter of fact, there is a whole fetish dedicated to this.

            I’m not saying every sexual encounter has to be a hip thrusting, bent over, hanging from the ceiling, where’d the cat go? all out orgie, but what you’re describing most people refer to as “making love.” I’m talking about sex, pure and simple. No emotion, no dinner first; no opening the door for her; no compliment her hair; no pretending to be interested in his job or how cool his car is; no ego stroking whatsoever… just pure basic animalistic attraction, urge and instinct shared by 2 (or more, I’m just sayin) people.

            • It'sRexManningDay! says:

              No, I really don’t mean to imply that all “real sex” is flowers and compliments and bathtubs with rose petals (what people seem to assume is what most women want). Real sex can be off the wall and dirty, too. But just the fact that you categorized the type of porn where women get off as a subcategory of fetishes proves my point. Woman-getting-off as a fetish implies that she’s only getting off to please someone else, not because she’s genuinely engaged in the act for herself. Because nobody in porn is genuinely engaged in the act for themselves. It’s antithetical to the enterprise of porn.

              it’s a feminist argument, but it can be applied to the men in porn as well. They’re also only getting off to please someone else (the viewer). It’s all staged and fake. That’s why even though I accept that my child will likely stumble upon pornographic imagery here and there during the course of growing up (and will most certainly seek it out when he gets to that weird boy-man pubescent stage), I certainly wouldn’t want him to base all his ideas of what real sex is on that information alone. What a shame that would be for him and his future sex partners!

          • MotorboatJones says:

            Even bukkake?

        • Megalomania says:

          No; porn is a typically a male fantasy, in addition to actually being uncomfortable for both the men and women involved. I recommend reading a rather fantastic series of articles relating to the topic on McSweeney’s, at http://mcsweeneys.net/links/pornwriter/

          I’m neither a woman nor a feminist, but to imply that the vast majority of pornography is in some way natural is dangerously misleading in terms of healthy relations.

        • qualia says:

          Shiny pre-packaged consumer porn is “raw sexuality,” In the same way velveeta is cheese.

    • Pax says:

      The boy is ten years old. If his parents aren’t comfortable telling him the facts of life NOW … when will they? When he’s seventeen, and has already fathered two children?

    • qualia says:

      You might have a point if 99% of porn wasn’t tacky ugly crap. Yes, let’s teach 10 year olds about the beauty of the human body with crappy breast implants, clownish makeup, anal fisting and 2 girls 1 cup, that’s sure to give them a healthy view of sexuality.

  3. chefboyardee says:

    Yes, it sucks that the store sold this phone without wiping it (idiots). Yes, it’s a little awkward that you’re forced to talk to your kid about sex and you’re obviously uncomfortable with the subject. But…

    The kid’s 10. He knows more about sex than you assume. I did, at 10, and had no internet. The mother’s quote upsets me, it’s not scary to explain sex to your kids, it’s part of life. Deal with it.

    • uberbitter says:

      LIke someone else mentioned elsewhere, some sexual acts can be scary to children who don’t have the maturity to understand what they’re seeing. I would be horrified if my (potential future) child found bondage porn at 10 years old, for instance. That’s completely different from stumbling across a Playboy or having a discussion about sex.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        When this happens, are these phones being sold as new or are they refurbished?

    • myCatCracksMeUp says:

      It’s not scary to explain sex to kids – it’s scary to try to explain porn.

      The behavior of the people in most porn is way over the level of what kids need to know about.

    • Griking says:

      If there’s certain things that goes on in porn that I can’t mention here with other adults then I don’t think that it would be appropriate for a young child to see or hear. Sex isn’t dirty but a parent does have the right to choose how and when to explain sex to their children.

  4. El_Fez says:

    It’s the same reason we never hear news stories about smart criminals – they never get caught. I mean who’s likely to call the local media or write the consumerist and go “Hey! I got a phone with free porn! Sweet!”

  5. Conformist138 says:

    This isn’t good, no one should have to get that against their will. But… um… if the kid was old enough for a phone, he needs to be old enough to know the kinds of things some people send with them. Nothing is stopping someone from sending a dirty message to a wrong number, so it’s not like coming pre-loaded is the only way this could happen.

  6. Conformist138 says:

    This isn’t good, no one should have to get that against their will. But… um… if the kid was old enough for a phone, he needs to be old enough to know the kinds of things some people send with them. Nothing is stopping someone from sending a dirty message to a wrong number, so it’s not like coming pre-loaded is the only way this could happen.

  7. Brent says:

    There’s always the Sears c*talog.

  8. Toffeemama is looking for a few good Otters says:

    “Well son, some people like others to see naked pictures of themselves, and they send dirty messages. Weird, huh? Let’s just delete this stuff.”

    There you go, lady.

    • myCatCracksMeUp says:

      “some people like others to see naked pictures of themselves, and they send dirty messages”

      You really think this was all it was?

      Maybe you haven’t seen or read some of the stuff that’s out there, so I won’t shock you by telling you about it, but trust me – it’s WAY more than this.

      • pantheonoutcast says:

        According to the article, there was one homemade video and one text.

        I’m sure the previous owner didn’t shoot a remake of “Deep Throat” in his poorly-lit bedroom using a grainy cell phone video camera.

        The kid most likely read some words he didn’t understand and saw 30 seconds of blurry flesh. He’ll live.

      • Toffeemama is looking for a few good Otters says:

        No, but the kid doesn’t need to get a detailed explanation.

  9. MDSasquatch says:

    You also need to be vigilant after they get the phone. Case in point: a few months back some random guy sent my 12-year old daughter a picture of his “package”; I was fairly certain that it was sent as a mistake.

    I called the number attached to the text and began my conversation with “Please explain why you are sending my 12-year old daughter a picture of your d**k” A few denials later, I told him that if he sent anything else to my daughter’s phone I would be contacting the police. He has never made that mistake again.

    • Liam Kinkaid says:

      Tangentially related, when I sold cell phones many moons ago, a lady was purchasing a cell phone for her 10 year old. She asked if it was a new number or if it had been used before. I told her, truthfully, that there was no way in the system that we had access to that I could guarantee that the phone number would never had been used before. She told me she had talked to one of my coworkers at the store who said they gave out clean numbers to kids. The coworker she mentioned was easily the sleaziest guy that worked there (like he would creep out used car salesmen sleazy). I confronted him about it after the customer left (because she didn’t like being lied to) and he said “anything to make a sale.”

      But yeah, the guy probably sent the pic as a mistake. Good on you not going nuclear on him. I’m sorry your daughter had to see that.

    • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

      As soon as he denied it, I would have just reported him to the police.

  10. hoi-polloi says:

    There were at least two or three points when this phone should have been checked and cleared of all texts, photos and videos, and contacts. First, there’s the person selling the phone – who you hope would have sufficient motivation to clear it. Next there’s the retailer. I realize they probably have considerable turn-over. That said, clearing a phone doesn’t take a great deal of time. Finally, I think parents buying a used phone for a child should take the time to check it out prior to giving it to him. If you want an absolutely clean phone (in all respects), buy one new.

  11. Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

    When this happens, are these phones being sold as new or are they refurbished?

  12. savashley says:

    For one thing, why the heck does a ten year old need a cell phone?!

    • OmniZero says:

      Agreed.

    • myCatCracksMeUp says:

      Back in the day – when I was a kid, probably before you were born, 10 year olds were allowed to roam around all day (on weekends or all evening on schooldays), having fun. We usually had a dime with us which was to be used to call home if there was a problem, such as getting hurt.

      Today there are very few payphones around. So I could definitely see letting a kid have a cell phone in order to phone home should he/she need parental help.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        Wow, you must be old if it only cost 10 cents to use a pay phone :-)

        When I was a kid, my Mom did the same thing. We were locked out of the house during the day and given 20 cents to use a pay phone in an emergency. When my kids are old enough to roam on their own, they’ll get cell phones simply for the fact that there really aren’t pay phones in my area anymore.

        • sanjaysrik says:

          The idea that payphones were 10 cents isn’t that old. I remember those days as well. The concept that payphone calls are more expensive than they were is not a very new concept, it’s just that no one uses them a lot. It went from 10 cents to about 25 cents to whatever batsh!t rate it is now based on whatever hijacked carrier routes your calls through Namibia in the present day.

          I use payphones all the time when underground since there’s no signal in the subways (thank gods). If you’re late, you use the payphone, costs a lot more, but sometimes, you do what you have to do.

          • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

            When were they 10 cents? I vaguely remember ours being 15 or 20 cents when I was a kid (1970′s) and then jumping up to 25 cents sometime in the mid 1980′s.

      • UCLAri: Allergy Sufferer says:

        Exactly. I remember a few cases as a kid where I actually needed to contact home when I was out bicycling. One was actually health-related and quite time-sensitive.

        I know it sounds absurd to give a kid a cell phone, but I know I’d give my kid a phone if he or she were old enough to go places alone or with friends.

      • Rickdude says:

        I was with savashley, but now that you mention it that’s a good reason. I have noted lately that there are very few pay phones around. I remember that I needed one a few years back (don’t recall why, but my cell phone must have been dead) and I couldn’t find one to save my life.

        It would be nice, though, if there was a way to lock a cell phone so that it could only call 1 or 2 numbers.

      • TasteyCat says:

        Kids don’t use cell phones for emergencies, though. They use them to endlessly babble to their friends who also don’t need them, thereby preparing them for later in life when they need to be able to talk on their phones while driving because they can’t go 5 minutes without hearing the sound of their own voices.

    • Awesome McAwesomeness says:

      I was wondering the same thing. When our kid goes out roaming the neighborhood, we give her a fanny pack with DH cell phone in it. We told her that if she uses it to call anyone but us, it’s the last time she goes out roaming around for a week.

  13. kjs87 says:

    One reason I’d get as dumb a phone as possible for a kid I thought was too young for that. A jitterbug, perhaps. Does Disney still make cell phones?

    Who buys a used phone for a kid and doesn’t check to make sure it’s clean? Obviously, the store should have checked, but human error happens. Bottom line, if he’s old enough for a phone, he has to be old enough for that because wrong numbers happen, prank texters happen, etc.

  14. NarcolepticGirl says:

    “”It’s scary, trying to explain to a child what’s there and what it is, it’s unfair to him,” “

    oh please. I accidentally saw a minute of a video when I was 9. I’m not a serial killer nor do I have 50 kids or STDs. Nor was I scared.

  15. BadgerPudding says:

    Giving your 10 YEAR OLD a cell phone means that he’s going to be seeing a lot more of this stuff. Hope you’re ready to do a lot more explaining, lady.

  16. BadgerPudding says:

    “She was even more upset when Cellular World wouldn’t refund the purchase”

    Refund the purchase? Did the porn ruin the phone forever?

    • Liam Kinkaid says:

      I can imagine her in the store. “Yes, I’m miffed about the porn. Yes, yes, thank you for the apology, but I’m still a little perturbed. I think I’d like to return it for a refund. … WHAT?! NO REFUND??? UNFORGIVABLE!”

  17. trey says:

    and why would you buy a “smart phone” for your 10 year old when all he needs is a phone that can make phone calls?

    • Blueberry Scone says:

      Agreed. Kids really only need a phone that can take and make calls. No pics/videos, no apps. Maybe texting, but that’s it. Actually, this sounds like my own cell.

  18. UCLAri: Allergy Sufferer says:

    If it were simply Playboy sort of stuff, then it’s not so terrible to explain. Might even make for an anatomy lesson.

    If it’s the crazy sh!t one can find all over the interbutts, then… yeesh.

    • JulesNoctambule says:

      I’m relieved that at least a few commenters here can distinguish between softcore porn/nudity and extremely graphic/violent/degrading/fetishistic porn. The ‘Oh, shut up teach your child about THE BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BODY you horrible prude!!!111!!’ argument might hold water if the phone was pre-loaded with Playboy centerfold-style stuff; if it’s BDSM scat porn, not so much.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        Yeah, it’s a lot easier to explain a naked person or two people having sex than it is to explain why a leather clad lady is pooping on a guys chest or has her fist up his ass.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        I really don’t think I’d want a phone that some guy was using for a masturbation aid prior to my purchasing it.

  19. sanjaysrik says:

    Every single time I read a story like this, I want to slap the parents.

    WHO gives ANYTHING to a child without trying it, looking at it, testing it, or othrewisemaking sure it’s child safe?

    I mean seriously. As a parent, I would NEVER give anything to my child without first verifying that it’s okay to use for said child or ANY child.

    Why these stories ever make the air is because lazy parents didn’t want to check their snowflake’s new device.

  20. AngryK9 says:

    I really don’t see why a 10 year old needs a cell phone. All he is going to do is take it to school and play with it in class when he should be doing his schoolwork.

  21. adlauren says:

    “elementary school sex-ed”? SERIOUSLY? I didn’t get the “boys and girls are different” talk at school until at least the 6th grade and didn’t watch the movie about Tracy Gold barfing in jars until freshman year of high school.

  22. coren says:

    Scary?

    No.

    Awkward? Difficult? Uncomfortable? Sure, any of those. But scary? If talking about sex is scary, I don’t even know what to say.

  23. richcreamerybutter says:

    I only want to say that this headline is going to make me laugh all day. Thank you!

  24. MotorboatJones says:

    My sister bought a cell phone for her 11 year old daughter from eBay. The previous owner left tons of topless pics of himself as well as full-frontal nudity of (I can only guess from the amount of body hair that it’s) him. These were not glamour shots by any means. WTF would anyone do that?

  25. jcota says:

    Man the title of this story is all wrong. I bet there are plenty people who appreciated phones loaded with porn. They just didn’t tell anyone about it or make a big deal about it. It only makes the news when parent makes a big enough deal to involve the local news.

  26. Levk says:

    OMG don’t parents you know protect there kids? Man how much work is it to turn on a phone and check if everything is working fine, if you do that you would catch the porn before the kids do and you can handle it before the kids see it… man parents today are dumb plain and simple

  27. yankinwaoz says:

    Best Headline Ever.

  28. Awesome McAwesomeness says:

    She had to explain sex to a ten-year-old boy? Really? My daughter is seven and started asking questions when she was four. She knows how babies are made. how they develop, the various ways they can come out, and that you can feed them with your boobs. If this kid doesn’t know about sex at 10, then there are some serious issues going on. Most normal 10 year olds would have kept it a secret and shown it to his friends.