Comments on: I Sent eBay Buyer A Pair Of Sunglasses, They Sent Me Back A Brick https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/ Fri, 23 Sep 2016 19:39:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: RvLeshrac https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094037 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:07:18 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094037 They aren’t simply committing fraud, they’re committing mail fraud, which is a felony punishable by years of jail time in Federal PMITA Prison.

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By: RvLeshrac https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094036 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:06:08 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094036 Sue them, no. Contact the FBI and the police in both jurisdictions? Yes.

THEN sue them.

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By: Kristoffer https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094035 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:42:31 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094035 From past experience you won’t get very far with ebay or Paypal and will have to do most of the leg work yourself. I would file the mail fraud form with the post office. I would scan a copy and email it to the buyer letting them know you are filing it with the post office. I would also look up this person feedback and email anyone (other buyers) that have left him feedback to question if they have also had a problem with this person. If they have then you guys can ‘gang’ up on paypal/ebay. I had an issue with paypal and once I was able to find several other buyers that had issues and we all started calling them they gave us our money back.

And last I would look this person up every day just waiting for them to list something for sale. Once they did I would buy it, dispute the item, and ship them back their brick.

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By: PandoraCamel https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094034 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:06:11 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094034 1. You have to send the brick to PayPal to prove you didn’t get the item.
2. Keep the dispute open.
See also: “How do I report a buyer who is misusing returns?” in the help search.

The buyer did this so they’d have a tracking number to feed paypal to say they sent it. You may have to take the seller to small claims court since they’re committing fraud. But it’s important that PayPal knows.

PS. eBay and Paypal staff can read the dispute as long as it’s open. Once it’s closed it can’t be reopened, and becomes an extreme hassle. You can fax eBay/Paypal a scanned copy of what you received. Make sure to mark the fax with all the contact data you had with the buyer, because the agent who receives the fax certainly will not be the same people who work the case. It’s also technically possible to email small jpegs (80KB) to eBay/Paypal, though there is no guarantee that the email system will let the agent open it. If you want to send PayPal/eBay an email, find the email notification in your email and hit reply there instead in the eBay interface.

re: other comments and feedback
Negative feedback was being used as an extortion mechanism and distorting the marketplace. Trust me when I say eBay is better off without it. You’d see people selling hundreds of virtual items (eBooks, free software, etc) just to inflate their positive feedback to sink any negative comments.

Bad Advice:
Removing money from your account/closing it. This will just flag your account as the fraudulent account, and good luck ever being able to use PayPal ever again. If you’re doing business with PayPal you should never have your personal account attached to it.

Many US banks have no-fee checking accounts, and you should use one of these accounts only for PayPal. If your account is ever compromised, the most you lose is the amount in this account.

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By: Coffee https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094033 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:17:52 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094033 XD

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By: MMD https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094032 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:35:10 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094032 If eBay is where you conduct business and you deliberate conduct fraudulent business on eBay (and if you really do the things you say you do and this isn’t just revenge fanfiction), I fail to see how shitting where you eat gets you anywhere in the grand scheme of things.

You don’t truly own your business if you subject yourself to eBay’s policies. You’re really more like a franchisee who has to play by the franchiser’s rules.

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By: sebastian tombs https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094031 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:28:39 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094031 As far as I remember from a complaint I had last month as a seller on an Ebay transaction – when I called ebay to ask what happens to my refund if the buyer sends back the wrong item or no item, they said the buyer would not get the refund of the seller wasn’t satisfied with the condition of the returned item. I would check with Ebay or Paypal about this. The reason I returned the money is that the buyer can leave negative feedback which in this cas would be worse then the money loss. But the buyer returned the item in worse condition than I sent it out in but because of the potential of negative feedback with no repudiation, I though it better just to eat he loss. I believe this seller can successfully keep the refund because the original item was not sent back. But check with ebay to be sure.

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By: Red Cat Linux https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094030 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:33 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094030 Can it wait a bit? I’m in the middle of some calibrations.

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By: rgf207 https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094029 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:47:29 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094029 That’s a lot of work for $100

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By: ancientone567 https://consumerist.com/2012/08/14/i-sent-ebay-buyer-a-pair-of-sunglasses-they-sent-me-back-a-brick/#comment-1094028 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:40:09 +0000 http://consumerist.com/?p=10101959#comment-1094028 That won’t work. All the scammer has to do is send it to your other address and give PayPal the tracking number and your screwed.

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