Honda will become the first company to lease hydrogen cars to U.S. consumers. [Bijzournals]


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  1. Jonbo298 says:

    Small steps but really hope this is how we go. Though the price is absurd (but by CA standards, $600 a month isn’t alot…), it is still very new. If Hydrogen would pickup quick, that would be my next car.

  2. Bladefist says:

    Don’t get in a wreck, because you’ll take out half your city.

  3. CRNewsom says:

    I am really not for Hydrogen. It seems, from the information I have read, that it would take significant infrastructure changes to make it effective, and it is 100% incompatible with current cars on the road.

    If there are no more dino-juice stations, where would people refuel their 10 year old cars? There are many people who simply cannot afford to purchase a new vehicle. Where would these people be if all service stations were H2?

    I think electric cars make more sense, given the current technology, but feel free to argue with me about it.

  4. wring says:

    lol would it feel like i’m driving a zeppelin?

  5. Bladefist says:

    I’ll admit I don’t know much about it. I know a little bit about hydrogen. I know it blows up. What state the hydrogen is in, I don’t know. I assume that the scientist knew that. So I can only assume they have taken the precautions.

  6. ViperBorg says:

    @CRNewsom: Nothing says that stations cannot sell both.

  7. WiglyWorm must cease and decist says:

    @CRNewsom: It would take significant infra structure that we don’t currently have. This is both a problem and a solution.

    Because of the infrastructure requirements, you can rest assured that gasoline would be phased out slowly. This would allow people driving gasoline cars to get their gas for some time. But because of the increased cost of building whole new infrastructure, it would take quite a bit to get existing fuel stations to carry it.

    @Bladefist: Was that a joke, or are you just stupid?

  8. Bladefist says:

    @WiglyWorm: A combination of the 2. Why is everything so black and white with you people?

  9. xmarc says:

    I think a complete change over to H2 would take 2 generations. Notwithstanding that dino will always be available. When the technology is perfected it will be a win-win for everybody. Fuel cell cars will be great. Much better than today’s hybrids.

  10. SacraBos says:

    I agree with CRNewsom. There’s a lot of infrastructure building required for H. Unlike CNG (which liquifies), it doesn’t phase change under reasonable temps/pressures, so you need quite a bit of PSI to hold large amount in a small space. An H fire is almost invisible, which adds danger. Also, most H is produced by cracking natural gas – so why go through the hassle and conversion losses – let’s CNG more cars! Or electrolytic splitting of water, but then if you’re going to use electricity to make H, why not just make an electric car and save a step and conversion losses again.

    Given current distribution environments, electric cards make the most sense. We already have a large power distribution network in place to charge them, and we have better battery technology than before. Current H production still requires fossil fuels or added electric power generation, anyway, and building/converting thousands of H refueling stations. Everyone has an electrical outlet at home.

  11. LatherRinseRepeat says:

    Woah, this is awesome. Sure Hydrogen may not be the total solution, but it’s a step in the right direction. Now that the car is actually in production and available for lease, it might pressure other auto makers to build more alternative fuel vehicles.

    Meanwhile, back in Detroit… [crickets chirping].

  12. GearheadGeek says:

    @Bladefist: It’s powered by hydrogen burning, not hydrogen fusing into helium. It may be somewhat more likely to burn in wreck because any hydrogen in a liquid state (unlikely in a consumer vehicle, but still…) would more or less instantly become gaseous, and in a gaseous state it’s quite volatile. It wouldn’t be a worse fire than you’d get if you managed to light off the gasoline in a conventional car fire, though. There’s a lot of chemical energy in gasoline, that’s why it’s so useful.

    @Jonbo298: Hydrogen is not a fuel, really… it’s just a storage medium. It takes quite a bit of energy to put it into a usable state.

  13. Bladefist says:

    @GearheadGeek: ah okay. It had been a while since chemistry class.

  14. GearheadGeek says:

    @GearheadGeek: And actually I missed a bit… I should’ve said hydrogen cars are EITHER powered by hydrogen burning OR hydrogen oxidizing across a fuel-cell membrane rather than just saying the hydrogen is burning, but the important distinction I was trying to make is that it’s not a thermonuclear reaction, just a chemical one.

  15. adamcz says:

    Very nice to see this technology move along. Gasoline cars (including ineffective substitutions such as E85) are such a disaster that I think this technology will catch on sooner than we think. The infrastructure investment needed is nothing to the oil companies. Billions are nothing to them if they want to become the market leader in tomorrow’s energy solutions.

  16. ok-milk says:

    I think there is a possibility that the future fuel contest will not be winner take all, and that there will be second and possibly third-place alternatives alongside gasoline. Hydrogen may take second place in a distant future. In the short term, electric cars make the most sense. We are closest with the technology, there is existing infrastructure, and the economy of scale in producing “fuel” makes it the most environmentally sound long-term plan. (Yes, yes, I know, coal. Check the numbers.)
    One thing that doesn’t seem to get much press is that this won’t require much if any change in the power grid. We are most likely to charge our electric cars at night when demand and cost are lowest, and capacity overhead is the greatest.
    The problem now is getting car manufacturers on board – they have started distancing themselves from oil, but not fast enough for my tastes. I am hoping in lieu of government incentives, that smaller, faster car manufacturers like Tesla depose the Detroit giants that are dragging their feet.