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nader for president

The Best Sales Line Ever

I walked by this DS-Max/Innovage type salesguy who was trying to sell cheap merchandise on the street one and he started to walk by my side. "Who are you voting for?" he asked. Just to mess with him, I said, "Nader." He screwed up his face like he didn't understand the words I was saying and then said, "Well you're definitely going to need one of these." A few feet away I looked over my shoulder and saw that he had stopped in the middle of the sidewalk and was smiling and holding out some large bound object. Walking closer I saw that he was holding an oversized plastic kitten calendar. He had just unintentionally performed the wittiest piece of political comedy I saw all year. It was also a great sales line. No matter what I said, he could follow it up with the same call to buy. I guess it's not foolproof, however, as my walls are still devoid of oversized kitten calendars.

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4 Typical DS-MAX MLM Scam Job Ads Found On Monster, HotJobs, CareerBuilder And Jobster

Using the names of companies accused of being DS-Max (now known as Innovage) subsidiaries/affiliates on Ripoffreport and a list on DS-Max The Aftermath, I did a search of Monster, Hot Jobs, and other job sites to pick out real ads that are out there and should be avoided. More »

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How To Spot A DS-MAX Style MLM Scam Job Ad

Here are some of the qualities of a "business" operating under DS-MAX (now known as Innovage, though the same company owns both trademarks...) principles, an organization responsible for many complaints alleging scams, fraud, and general employee deprivation in a "sales-cult" atmosphere. More »

fun with maps

CPSC Recalls DS-MAX-Made Toy Trucks For Choking Hazard

Washington, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), DS-MAX U.S.A. Inc. (formerly Wholesale Warehousing Industries) of Irvine, Calif., had voluntarily recalled about 82,000 "My Alphabetic Truck" toys, style SHYE-AT-002. During CPSC "use and abuse" testing, small parts were generated, presenting a potential choking hazard to young children.
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Nu-Life Owns The Trademarks For Innovage AND DS-MAX

Nu-Life, the company so mad at us about "adversely" affecting its DS-MAX trademark, saying that old DS-MAX became Innovage and Nu-Life has nothing to do with the actions of old DS-MAX or new Innovage... More »

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Man Escapes Working For DS-MAX-esque Charity Scam, Lives To Blogs His Tale

A reader who used to work for Quantum Marketing, one of the "Aftermax" companies, (the term for companies that old DS-MAX (now known as Innovage) spawned), wrote several posts describing how his company scammed people who thought they were donating money to D.A.R.E. More »


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13 Confession Of A Former DS-MAX Manager

This is almost everything you need know about DS-MAX (now known as Innovage), the super-shady multi-level-marketing group whose business practices seems to have inspired the Midtown Promotions office we're looking into. It's culled from an excellent post over at DS-MAX: The Aftermath: More »

consumer alert

Door To Door Energy Resellers Fail To Deliver Promised Savings

The NY Post ran a good article looking into whether the savings promised by door-to-door energy resale reps like IDT Energy ever really materialize for subscribers:
"I've had complaints from residents, as well as small businesses, who have unwittingly switched to a different energy provider and seen their bills go through the roof," said City Councilman John Liu (D-Queens).
One Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, IDT customer - a bartender who gave her name as Carmel - said her electric bill jumped from $40 to $70, and she is anxious to cancel.
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uplinks

Why Most People In Multi-Level-Marketing Schemes Lose Money

This chart shows how a typical Multi-Level-Marketing (MLM) operation sustains itself by ripping off the entry-level salespeople. Most of each of sales commission flows upwards, or to the "uplinks." Additionally, there may be entry costs, like Cutco reps who have to buy their $150 demo kit. More »

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Reader Lured Into 2 Different DS-MAX Interviews Via Monster.com Job Listings

Morris had an encounter with two different DS-MAX type places last December when he was looking for a job. In both instances, he was lured in through postings on Monster.com advertising entry-level marketing full-time jobs with full benefits. More »

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DS-MAX Was A "Sales Cult," Says Former Employee

steve-o: OH MAN! IDT is DS/MAX?! I worked for them! Worst 4 days of my life. Thank god I got out before they made me buy my own product.They told me it was B2B marketing, when in reality we were driving around from strip mall to strip mall trying to sell Disney books, umbrellas that looked like a duck, and other assorted crap
steve-o: it works exactly like a cult, complete with the nonsensical chanting
benpopken: you were in product clearance
benpopken: IDT isn't ds-max
steve-o: Midtown Promotions is
steve-o: and they send out the IDT ppl
benpopken: IDT contracted out to Midtown, which is assoc with DSmax
benpopken: apparently now DS-Max is called "Innovage"
steve-o: well if you ever wondered how they're structured, all you have to do is look up the signs of a cult
steve-o: because they hit all the requirements
benpopken: tell me about your adventures
steve-o: My first day there was an 'interview' in what was essentially a warehouse... More »