"So get this, my wife ordered some of this stuff for me on the 4th of June as a gift for my birthday two weeks later, IT STILL HAS NOT SHOWN UP!
She has called them twice in this regard and twice has been told it would ship the next day - still do not have it.
Cancer charity or not, I would never consider giving them money for any product again."
"My wife and I have taken to purchasing used whenever reasonable, not only to save money but it also to keeps our money within our community as we often purchase from local sellers.
I figure, even if some of the used items originated over seas, by buying it used we keep the funds local."
"@ojzitro:
14 years old.
Good MPG for it's size.
Totally paid for so it only costs $60 a month to own.
Less than 120,000 miles.
Has never cost more than $100 to repair anything on it.
It makes a heck of a lot more sense to drive a car that I already own than go into debt buying something else more "fashionable"."
"@Pylon83:
I would argue many consumers are not sophisticated enough to know what the limitations are, and I am certain Apple are not making great efforts express those limitations at time of purchase."
"@Jim Topoleski: "What they are looking for is for no ruling basically, which is different than illegal, but allow them to continue to not support people who hack their phones."
If that is the case then why are they also pushing for financial rewards and jail time.
I am quite familiar with voiding warranties on multiple products - bicycles, cars, stereo equipment, computers, boats, etc, - simply by working on them myself and frequently making them do what they were never intended to but none of those manufacturers have protections that would put me in jail or fine me for doing so; they simply refuse to support the product, as should apple."
"My wife and I were discussing getting iPhones in the near future but positions such as Apples makes me question if I want to support their company with my money.
Their position, effectively, is they still own the phone via copyright protection and determine exactly what you can do with it, period."
"@DaleM: For the record, I never endorsed blindly giving money to the big three, simply suggested they be bailed out, otherwise we will end up in a 1930's style depression in America.
I would endorse buying common stock and placing oversight on the companies helped, potentially replacing or adding to the board of directors.
Severely restructuring compensation and union contracts.
Continue funding pensions and legacy health care - those people earned it.
At this time, there is no reason to scuttle the ship."
"@Snarkysnake: "rewarding the idiots that wrecked these companies just ensures that the next bailout will make this one look like spare change lost in couch cushions..."
The idiots the wrecked the companies retired about thirty years ago (negotiated contracts that would not survive in the future).
Honestly, I would not be in support of the auto bailout had we not bailout the financial industries."
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