A passenger on a Continental ExpressJet flight from Houston to Oklahoma City says she was removed from the flight because her toddler would not stop repeating the phrase, "Bye, bye plane."
Her two-year old, Garron, repeated the phrase all through the flight attendant's safety speech. Afterward, the passenger, Kate Penland, said the flight attendant told the man sitting next to her to shut the baby up. From ABC13:
"As she finished, she leaned over the gentleman who was sitting next to me, and she said, 'OK, it's not funny anymore. You need to shut your baby up,'" Penland said.Penland told the flight attendant that Garron would fall asleep soon enough. Penland told Eyewitness News, "She said, 'It doesn't matter. Regardless, I don't want to hear it.' And she said it's called baby Benadryl and (made a drinking motion.) And I said, 'Well, I'm not going to drug my child so you have a pleasant flight.'"
Soon after the baby Benedryl incident, the flight crew made an announcement that they were returning to the gate. Authorities at the airport were notified of a "passenger disturbance," but arrived to find only Kate and Garron being escorted off the plane.
Continental ExpressJet responded: "We received Ms. Penland's letter expressing her concerns and intend to investigate."
We really can't figure out why they'd go so far as to kick the woman off the plane. Maybe a creepy kid chanting the phrase "Bye, bye plane" scared them? We know that's lame but that's all we can think of. Too weird.
Talking toddler and mother removed from flight in Houston [ABC13]
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Sounds more like a Sky Waitress (cause this woman wasn't professional enough to be called a flight attendant or even a stewardess) with a case of PMS from drinking to much and letting a few pilots pull a train on her.
She needs to seriously not have a job anymore.
Yet another reason for my preference of Continental over all of the other carriers. Enough with the damn annoying toddlers everywhere. Bye Bye Kid.
I am really having a hard time believing a flight attendant said this.
What I am not having a hard time believing is that someone who named their kid "Garron" wouldn't stop their awful child from screaming and yelling on a plane.
After being delayed for 11 hours, that is pretty good behavior for a toddler.
Finally! I hate toddlers on planes. It is so inconsiderate to the other 120 passengers on a plane trying to do work.
Finally an airline that lets us fly free of screaming children. I'll remember this the next time I fly.
Frankly, I think Baby Benadryl is a great idea!
I wish I was even kidding.
@whereismyrobot:"What I am not having a hard time believing is that someone who named their kid "Garron" wouldn't stop their awful child from screaming and yelling on a plane."
I think you're on to something.
Sorry, but yeah, bye bye kid.
I don't know if it is a good precedent or not (probably not) but I have had one too many kids sit next to/in front of me on recent flights with parents who feel that they are on a flight with an equal (the child) and not in a position to discipline the child. Of course the mother says that "all they did was blah blah blah" but she is used to it and feels that everyone else should be used to it as well. Guess what, I'm not the child's parent(s) so I don't HAVE to get used to it or even put up with being inconvenienced by it. I paid as much as any other passenger and, trust me, if I caused a problem that inconvenienced other passengers they would remove me as well! It was their decision to have the child and their decision to take the child on a trip that they are obviously not prepared for.
Sorry, but ba-bye.
I fully endorse Baby Benedryl and while I think it's a parent's decision whether or not to use it, I wish more would.
@aparsons:
Doh, you beat me, now my comment looks redundant.
I wish this would happen at movie theaters more often. In fact, I wish movie theaters flat out banned kids 5 and under from anything PG-13 and up.
If you can get kicked off for your toddler repeating a phrase as innocuous as "bye bye plane", but not for looking at hardcore porn on your laptop in full view of other passengers, THERE IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY WRONG WITH OUR AIRLINE SYSTEMS.
i have 2 kids, both are smart and very talkative (asking questions all the time, etc)
however, i am conscious enough as a parent AND fellow human being to know that my kid should not annoy those around me.
this sounded like a two-problem conflict: 1)a parent who doesn't believe in 'stifling' their child's 'creativity' (and naming them Garron...kinda like naming your kid Aiden...)
and 2)a flight attendant who was a bi*ch.
Oh noes teh babies! Duh.
Geez, all these people were kids once and they were annoying and they thought it was great fun but now that they're adults oh god fucking forbid a two-year old should talk. Turn up the volume on your iPod and stfu damn whiners.
I don't have kids, but even I realize that you don't need to have other people offering advice on what to do with the kid. If the kid wasn't screaming or crying, no harm, no foul. Houston to OKC isn't exactly a whip. It's barely an hour for that flight. If you can't drone out for an hour while a baby who likely speaks at a 35-40db level while the plane is blasting your ears at 140db, then you're just a grade A jerk lookin' to pick a fight with a mother traveling alone with her kid.
Seriously, planes are loud hollow tubes roaring through the air at 300 mph. You can't tune out a whisper in a scream?
oh, and benadryl is not a solution, nor is drugging your kids. that is awful you guys. :)
Drug your child!
Oh my f'ing side folks. GD do you think youre any less annoying? How about taking a damn Xanax and not worrying about the kid. My daughter flew on a plane when she was 3 months old and other than about 5 seconds of fussing oover a poopy diaper she never made a peep.
I understand kids who scream for an entire flight are annoying, can keep you form sleeping or working, but if your life is so tied up that you must get that work done at 30,000 feet in a tin can you need to get another job and relax a little.
I wouldn't mind booting a few of those Southwest people that think it's hilarious to sing a song when the plane lands.
I think kids should either be aborted or kept at home until they are ready for college. I hate it when I go out to a public place and there are people who are not like me and my friends and they talk or laugh or do what ever weird thing and act like it is OK that they exist. I hate them even worse if they try to talk to me! Like this one time...
To all the people who have whiny, crying, children and feel the need to expose the rest of the population to their ear-piercing screams once their PSP runs out of batteries....stay at home please. The last thing I want when I'm out for a nice dinner , is to hear the annoying sounds of a spoiled brat because you are too poor/lazy to get a sitter. There are Chuck E Cheeses and cartoon movies for a reason. If they can't behave, they shouldn't be part of adult venues. Seen and not heard, all that jazz.
A parent who doesn't discipline their child for the 364 days a year they don't travel is likely not capable of getting compliance from them on the one day they travel. Yes, we were all children once, but what is different about today's children is that today's parents (who have a strong sense of entitlement themselves, as in: I put up with it, so you can too) have passed this sense of entitlement (or lack of control) onto their kids. Of course, there are always exceptions (and don't even get me STARTED on what passes for "service" from today's flight attendants). Kicking a parent and child off the plane for a loud child on one hand seems a bit excessive . . . but only because we're used to such civil disturbances. Rewind 15 - 20 years and this event probably wouldn't have played out this way. Btw, ExpressJet is completely independent from Continental at this point.
screw baby Benadryl, my mom used to dose me with a little brandy before long trips ... she always said I was a great travel sleeper!
oh, the days when parents believed in intoxicating infants to ensure a pleasant flight.
Now that I'm a father, I see things like this from a different perspective. I can forgive a two year old tot, it's the people with the mental capacity to know better I can't stand.
'shutting your kid up' doesn't work the way non-parents think it does.
And I'm not going to drug my kid so some hipster can sit and contemplate how important he is in silence. Grown men throwing temper tantrums at every minor inconvenience in life is just rediculaus. Just deal with it like the rest of us lowly Philistines do. It's not like the kid was making himself puke or throwing things.
My question is, if it were hard core porn, everything would be ok?
I was flying recently and enjoying my time in first class that I got from finally cashing in my frequent flyer miles. On 1 of the legs there was a family with a baby. The baby needed its diaper changed. The mother stood up, put a blanket on the seat, put the baby down, and then changed the kid right there in first class. I didn't know what to say. Thankfully a flight attendant came up and suggested she not do that again.
I didn't read anywhere in the story that the kid was screaming or saying anything else in an entirely loud voice.
If he was just saying the same thing over and over, the flight attendant needs to be fired. Bottom line. If I were the parent, I also would have refused to be removed from the plane, and then allowed the police to calmly escort me off. Rididulous.
You all seem to be missing the part of the article where other adjacent passengers were interviewed who had no problem with the kid.
"He wasn't any louder than the adult passengers on the plane," said passenger Stacey Watts.
Watts sat just a few rows back from the Georgia mother and heard the entire conversation.
@Red_Eye:
It's great that your daughter can fly and not make peeps. If all children were that way, we would not be making an issue.
I had a job that required flights every single week and that was precious sleep time for me. I used noise-cancelling headsets and if there was unusually loud noises it would pierce right through.
Besides, you can only turn on the noise-cancelling functions about 5 min after take-off. If you're on a ground-hold, it will not help
I'm in the camp of keep your kid controlled and quiet. It's respectful to teach your child not to talk when others are talking and if he's busy yelling bye bye plane when the one person on the flight who actually has never heard the safety instructions before is trying to hear them, that's not acceptable.
I flew 300,000 frequent flyer miles by the age of 7 and never once did anyone have to tell my parents to shut me up. Every time my mother is on a plane with me she says "I'm so glad you were nothing like that horrid child." Kids are perfectly capable of playing quietly, and in a confined environment with 200 other people that would be a good time to exercise that skill.
And some of us get paid to work on flights so yes, it is important that we get work done en route.
It would be interesting to hear the flight attendant's version. But from the article, it looks like, while Garron may have been annoying, kicking them off the plane was unwarranted. And I don't think it's appropriate for a flight attendant to suggest to a passenger that she drug her child.
Remember when kids weren't allowed to "talk back" to parents, teachers, and other authority figures? Well now even we grown-ups can't "talk back" to TSA screeners or flight attendants without getting in trouble somehow.
This is just like the Kulesza story at the beginning of the year. However, everyone applauded the efforts of AirTran for removing the unruly child.
I wonder if this story will make the talk show circuit as well.
@dbeahn: Haha. Maybe a little late but that's probably the funniest thing I've read all morning.
The baby was OBVIOUSLY a terrorist. At the tender age of 2 he is already plotting to destroy a plane!
I knew I always flew Continental for a reason!
And yes, Red_eye, I am less annoying--I am quiet, take an adult benedryl to sleep and don't feel the need to make noise while traveling in close quarters. Just because you have a child, does not give you the right to thrust your sucky progeny in my space. Lucky you--you have the perfectly behaved baby--most people do not. Many parents don't discipline because they have to hear it they think that we all should put up with it.
If a child needs to be on a plane, the parent should make every attempt to keep it quiet--for everyone's sanity.
My brother and I were both astonishingly well-behaved and so are my brother's two children (ages 7 and 4). Are there children who are complete brats? Yes, yes there are. And I hate being in public with them as much as the next. But their money is as green as mine and if they wish to fly somewhere with their kid, while the least they could do is teach the child to behave, it's not my place to tell them they can't.
Also, I believe intentionally drugging your child can be considered a form of abuse.
The baby was chanting this during the the pre-flight instructions? That usually lasts 5-10 minutes. A long time for a baby to be chanting all on his on. My suspicion is that the mother was coaxing the child. The mother says, "Say 'Bye Bye Plane'." And the child repeats, "Bye, Bye Plane." The mother probably got some warm smiles and a few chuckles the first few times, and figured it was entertaining. I am sure by the time the instructions were over, everyone was sick of it, but she wouldn't stop. I think the mother's attitude was "So, what" which is why she was thrown off.
Another instance in which you could have driven there quicker than the flight due to delays. This is why I drive everywhere less than 12ish hours away by car. Hey, I can stop whenever I want a burger!
I think this case as presented by the article (with third party witnesseds) is way different than the last baby episode entirely. If he wasn't screaming or out of his seat, there's really no reason for what she did. I'm going to assume that the flight attendant was just really not doing her job correctly and was being a nasty biotch, especially if the phrases she used are true. How rude is it to tell someone to drug her baby, when you're representing a company?
Kids are still kids, and while parents should make every effort to control them and if they can't physically restrain them during takeoff, then remove them, sure. But talking, not yelling, during a flight attendant's speech? Come on. Don't they blast those over the intercoms now anyway?
I wonder how she's gonna handle cel phone use?
Congratulations! I bequeath each one of you intolerant travelers a child who throws a tantrum on an airplane, who has a blow-out diaper in the library, who screams at the grocery store, or the mall, or the doctor's office. I grant unto you many years of fearing leaving the house for the embarrassment that your child will cause you. I bestow upon you a life of renting movies and ordering in pizza, because heaven forbid you encumber someone else with your child in public. And a double-dose of the sick feeling when you know that your kid is making too much noise, but you can't stop it, no matter what you've tried.
The more you complain about other people's children in public, the worse your own children will behave, someday when you have them. I can't wait to be there for it. I'll be a lot more patient with you than you are with me, I promise you that.
@emilayohead: Good parenting can go a long way in living a life outside solitary confinement. As a person who chooses not to bring kids along to places where they are likely to be bored and unruly, I lambaste you for your lack of common sense. Your inability to contain your children does and should not make misery for those people you have ignorantly chosen to annoy.
"bye bye plane" boy is obviously a terrorist and a threat to national security.
or
maybe everyone needs to grow a fucking backbone and start acting like adults. grow up people, your about as mature as the little kid.
or
maybe you should take some benadryl, xanax, or just get sauced at the airport bar... oh wait, but then they won't let you on the plane either.
I think this belongs in the 'Above and Beyond' category.
Seriously I fucking hate little kids.
@Franklin Comes Alive!:
God forbid you see baby poo or a naked baby. Poop and nudity must never come into your life frequently.
Go back to your lush seating and your portable media player and quit whining. If you're in public, you're going to be exposed to people doing things that get done in public. A poop filled diaper is best changed in the bathroom, yes, but it's hardly a mindf*** to see it in person.
So the next time someone talks too much to me on the plane I can have them removed, right? Because using this logic, they're disruptive and annoy me so they can get off, right?
Just because you don't like kids doesn't mean this was right.
The faith that was restored in people by criticizing the girl who overdrafted for the granola bar has now been lost.
THE KID WAS TALKING. Not shouting, not running around, not crying, not kicking a seat. TALKING.
Next time every single passanger is required to fly completely silent, I'll have some sympathy. Until then, what the kid was doing was no worse than you talking to your the person in the next seat. People wonder why flying is such a pain, it's because the majority of passangers are the idiots in here.
@emilayohead:
A someone who doesn't have kids, I will stand alone and applaud your brevity and honesty.
I hope all the haters on this board have a successful vasectomy/hysterectomy to keep their sane childless worlds held in check.
If the kid's not being any louder than the other passengers this was unjustified. Maybe the flight attendant should have taken something. She didn't even start off talking to parent: she asked a random passenger to make the kid stop talking.