<![CDATA[Comments from tcm22]]> <![CDATA[Comments from tcm22]]> <![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Why Did The Tennessean Send This Bill For $0.08?]]> @ilikemoney:
Why would someone take satisfaction from wasting another person's time and effort for something that is obviously just an automated billing oddity?

Honestly, grow up and get with the real world.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on WaMu Sides With Thieves Stealing Your $373.64]]> That may be the worst customer complaint letter I've ever read.

I bet they have that thing framed and posted all over the walls of the customer service office as an example of the awful attempts at communication they have to deal with.

In light of the substandard education of the author, I wonder if the difficulties with the bank may have been self-induced.

Hopefully he'll take the refund and use it to pay tuition for a GED.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Looking Back: The Subprime Meltdown Explained By The NYT... In 2002]]> I'd submit that it's very uncommon. There's always fraud and criminal attempts to fool gullible people, but I don't think it's a defining feature of the sub-prime mortgage market. That's the implication of the NYT article, yet it's totally unsubstantiated.

Between home purchases and re-financings, I've probably shopped and signed for 8-9 different mortgages. I've never had an unprofessional experience. Some lenders are certainly better organized than others, but never has anything smelled of fraud or deception. I'm not sure where all these unscrupulous lenders or clueless borrowers are residing, but I don't believe they are a significant portion of the industry.

People borrowed more money than they could afford, and banks bet the market would continue to rise. Sometimes risk is poorly managed. Looking for corporate bogeymen is counterproductive.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Looking Back: The Subprime Meltdown Explained By The NYT... In 2002]]> @brennie:

No, no, there all victims of the greedy banking industry! Don't you read the NYT?

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Looking Back: The Subprime Meltdown Explained By The NYT... In 2002]]> There's always fraud. That certainly doesn't define the industry. I fully support and commend any prosecution of lenders who lie and defraud customers. However, I'm guessing that 99.9% of the subprime ARMS that were sold in recent years were fully compliant with state and federal laws.

The example in the article says nothing about how the lender defrauded the poor, unsuspecting borrower. It certainly hints at some sort of bait and switch, but I'm suspicious of the carefully chosen language and the lack of follow-up or specifics. It's easy to paint a picture of a victim of the evil mortgage lenders if you don't bother to list all the facts.

No one held a gun to anyones head and forced them to take the loans. As I mentioned, volumes of state and federal forms are required to ensure consumers are protected from themselves. Even with all the mortgage disclosure laws there's people out there that will claim to be victims even though their own stupidity drove their situation.

Fact: No one who pays their mortgage on time gets foreclosed.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Looking Back: The Subprime Meltdown Explained By The NYT... In 2002]]> "For example, one profiled consumer was told she was signing up for a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, only to find out that (you guessed it) she'd signed a ARM with a 1-year teaser rate of 5.5%."

I call maximum bullshit on this statement. Anyone who has ever taken out a mortgage knows you have to sign literally dozens of documents that specify the interest rate, what you'll be paying, and for how long. There are other documents you sign that verify you've been given all that information. For anyone with two working brain cells, it's patronizing at best. For someone to claim they didn't know they were signing a teaser ARM is absolutely non-credible in today's marketplace.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on R.I.P. Free Cellphone Games]]> Yet no one has commented on this absurd statement:

"The age of free cellphone games is dead, killed by the greedy profit gluttons in charge of major cellphone companies."

So anything less then something for nothing is greed? I'm all for consumer protection and a fair marketplace, but to whine because companies don't hand out their marketing baubles for free anymore points to a bunch of spoiled, overly indulged marketplace idiots. Of course it's about money people! It's how the folks who run the cell companies pay their mortgages, make payroll, provide health insurance, and feed their kids.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Is It Legal To Unlock The iPhone?]]> I don't own an iPhone, but I do get a chuckle out of all the whinging and whining about them I see on this site.

Copywrite aside, is there anything in the sales contract that mentions this issue, or is that not a relevant issue on this site?

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Brecht BMW Tells Customer "Go Back To Volkswagon, You Don't Deserve To Own A BMW"]]> @Buran:
Blame the victim? Why is she all of a sudden a victim? She sounds like another selfish, self-centered, greedy consumer who thinks that businesses should kiss their ass regardless of the situation. The more I read the letter -- one sided from her perspective -- the more I'm convinced she went in there and threw a tantrum when they didn't do exactly what she asked. I suspect her description of the incident contains a lot of hyperbole and that she selectively left out some of her own choice comments.

Think about it -- a woman walks in to a car dealer at the end of the business day and demands they accept a lease return they are unable to verify. She won't take no for an answer so the manager gets involved. She starts unloading on them about the car's maintenance record (WTF is that? Like they care) and then won't leave when it's obvious they don't want to deal with her. I'd probably call the cops too.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Predatory Tow Trucks Steal, Sell Cars To Junk Yards]]> I just make sure my cars are parked in the garage with the door down. Haven't had a problem yet!

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Time Warner Offers $30 Credit To Apologize For Hammering Through Wall, Drilling Through Floor]]> ARggghhh! Take some grammar lessons! Reading that letter is painful!

Seriously, if you are going to complain, literacy goes a long way. Sounds like the tech did a crappy job, but any manager reading that is going to write the customer of as an uneducated rube. If you're not great writer, get someone to proof read your work.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Brecht BMW Tells Customer "Go Back To Volkswagon, You Don't Deserve To Own A BMW"]]> @Sudonum:
I doubt the confrontation was started by the manager. Sounds she went in there with a chip on her shoulder and unloaded on the guy when she didn't get her way. She didn't want to here no for an answer and immediately went into beligerant victim mode. The giveaway is here whining about the maintenance record. WTF does that have to do with the lease turn in? The woman has some issues.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Brecht BMW Tells Customer "Go Back To Volkswagon, You Don't Deserve To Own A BMW"]]> @INconsumer:
I suspect the management made a judgment that another sale was not ever going to come from this woman. Having gotten just her side of the story, it seems to me she went rolling to the dealership with an ax to grind and got it. We can post all day in this thread how they could have acted, but that's just second guessing. Those guys are the ones trying to sell cars. I suspect if they had any hope of generating sales from the woman they would have tried to appease her rather than call the cops. My guess is she was one huge pain in the ass who didn't have her crap together to begin with and they wanted nothing to do with her or her car.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Brecht BMW Tells Customer "Go Back To Volkswagon, You Don't Deserve To Own A BMW"]]> I suspect there is more to the story than the original writer would have us believe.

1) Has anyone confirmed that the original info she got was correct? Some Chase customer service rep on the phone says to do something and therefor the car dealer is somehow obligated to comply? She should have called ahead to the people she was dealing with.

2) Why did she feel the need to unload on them about her maintenance problems? Seems to me that implies there was some rudeness and confrontation on both sides. This "kiss my ass, I'm a customer" attitude is the cause of half the problems on this site. Did they do any maintenance on the car? Why should they worry about it if they didn't do the work?

3) Typically when people start talking about calling the police, it's when a customer has become belligerent and disruptive. Seems to me the dealership just wanted to get her out the door, making the likely accurate judgment that the faster they ended their relationship with this woman the better.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on AT&T Refuses To Provide Unlock Codes, Feel Free To Complain To The FCC]]> @noasalira:
They don't "get you locked in", you do it of your own free will.

What you describe is a situation where you want a discounted phone under a given set of conditions that you then try to change after the fact. That's not the way the system works. If you don't like the deal they are offering, don't buy the damn phone?

Why is that so hard for people to figure out?

I see quotes above about some AT&T policy. First off, they are not contractually bound by their own policies if they are superseded by the actual contract. Secondly, I suspect they specifically exempt the iphone from the policy. Lots of assertion on that point. Some actual evidence may help that case.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Transportation Department Backs Deplaning]]> I appear to be one of the few Libertarian minded people on this site who doesn't support gov't intervention as remedy for consumer complaints.

This is much different. Despite the deregulation of routes and price structures years ago -- a very good thing that lowered air travel costs across the board by a huge margin -- the air traffic system remains in control of the Federal Government.

In the final analysis regulation of air travel is a legitimate federal function and therefore Congress and the FAA have a responsibility to fix this mess.

It comes down to incentives. I don't claim to understand it, but the current system of business incentives for the airline industry has made it cost effective to leave people crammed on board cramped airplanes for extended periods of time. To hear the FAA and airline reps publicly proclaim it has to do with the weather (like that's a new problem) or the old air traffic system does nothing to remedy the fact that people get stuck sitting on planes sometimes for 3 times longer than the original flight.

Regardless of the causes of the problems or the state of the air traffic system, at some point the FAA and airlines have to have a system where they can open the doors and let people off the airplanes. In my mind, an hour is too long without some resolution.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on California Bill To Mandate Disclosure Of Bottled Water Source, Quality]]> Why does other people's consumption of bottled water annoy you? Seems like you might need some therapy.

That people thought the source of the water was ever something other than a municipal water source is what cracks me up. I agree that people are stupid.

I still buy the water. I know that it's probably sterile and meets some minimal FDA guidelines, regardless of the source. When I'm out and about, a bottle of water is a handy way to quench thirst. It doesn't really matter if it didn't come from a Manchurian glacier. It's just water.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on AT&T Refuses To Provide Unlock Codes, Feel Free To Complain To The FCC]]> @Critcol:
CRITICOL wrote..."If they've sent in a complaint to the consumerist, I'm betting they DIDN'T get what they paid for, hence the complaint."

Here you are wrong. This site is overflowing with entitlement minded simpletons who revel in the notion that they are victims of corporate greed yet voluntarily continue to fork over their own cash and then demand more than they paid for after the fact. This article is a perfect example.

1. Buy phone with fully disclosed capabilities and rates.
2. Decides he wants more than what he voluntarily paid for in the first place
3. Demands that the company give him something in addition to what was initially agreed on in the sales contract.
4. Resorts to attempts at gov't coercion when his other efforts at extortion fail.

The answer is very simple. If the guy wants phone service overseas, he is fully capable of purchasing it via several means. He can use his iphone and pay the rates he agreed to in when he bought the thing, or he can purchase another service.

The guy doesn't just want overseas service, he wants something at a price he deems is "reasonable" but no one else is willing to offer. No free lunch folks.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on AT&T Refuses To Provide Unlock Codes, Feel Free To Complain To The FCC]]> So let me get this straight. A guy buys a phone which Apple markets as exclusive to the ATT network with full disclosure regarding all rates and the guy writes the FCC to complain? Let's see -- he was forced to buy the phone and sign the contract at gunpoint? Um, no. He was perfectly free to NOT buy the iPhone to begin with if he didn't like the setup they offered. As it stands he's demanding (via the FCC) that Apple support him in taking his business to another carrier.

Somebody call the waaaaaambulance.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Cellphone Battery Designed To Fail At First Drop Of Water?]]> I've had the same LG phone for 4 years.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on 44% Fewer West Virginia Payphones Since 1998]]> @Beerad:
The "benefit" that a company "gives back" is the goods and services that they provide to consumers willing to voluntarily pay for what the company has to offer. I fail to understand where you divine that there is some other obligation or the desire to extract something more than your $$s are willing to pay for.

There is no free lunch. The fact that companies make money providing goods and services that are in demand does not obligate them to provide high cost, low demand, non-productive services just because a few people feel they are important.

Ref the previous payphone article where the town in CA coughed up the dough to pay for it rather then try to extort it from the private business via gov't power.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on 44% Fewer West Virginia Payphones Since 1998]]> The causation is pretty apparent. The rise of cell phones means that people can make a call regardless of location. Since they have a phone in their pocket, they don't need to seek some other company's landline to make a call. Less demand equals less support for the infrastructure. Basic economics really, though that seems to confuse many people on this site.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on 44% Fewer West Virginia Payphones Since 1998]]> The technology of payphones is obsolete. Rural areas aren't the only ones losing payphones. The same situation is being mirrored across the country. There is insufficient demand for the systems, so why would a business keep maintaining them? Oh yeah, to "help the little guy."

Seems like the prevailing notion on this site is that businesses should be charities.

Technology drives economic change. Economic change always causes displacements in some for or another. That's just reality. The alternative -- gov't control of the economy -- is much worse.

People need to adapt and stop expecting business to offer freebies.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Community Organizes To Purchase A Pay Phone After AT&T Removed Their Only One]]> @bnet41: That's exactly the problem. If the town feels the need for a payphone, there's no reason AT&T should be forced to subsize it. The town is doing the right thing and covering the cost themselves. No reason the phone company should be forced to incur costs because they town feels someone else should provide security.

Seems to me the solution might be to lobby for better cell phone coverage. Public pay phones are going the way of the telegram. Technology is making them obsolete. Time for the canyon dwellers to find alternate solutions.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Subway's Incorrect Use Of Isosceles Cheese Actually A Vast Conspiracy]]> They can put as much cheese as they want on the sandwiches. If you don't like it, don't buy the friggin' sandwich. Too many on this site seem to think that whining about service is a subsitute for voting with your wallet. These places are in business to make money, not go broke kissing customer's asses. If you want more cheese, buy it.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Introducing The Most Impressive Cell Phone Bill Of The 110th Congress]]> Too good to be true, but not because it's a good law that won't pass. It's a stupid law that will impose a bunch of costs on the companies and jack up rates for everyone across the board.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Facing Foreclosure? Take A Deep Breath And Don't Panic]]> I think the original author needs to understand a bit about causality. The aforementioned "meltdown" is not what causes the foreclosures. It is the effect of the foreclosures on the overall market that is causing the "meltdown", not vice versa. It is a result of "victims" who took out home loans, promised to repay, and have now defaulted once interest rates started to vary.

If people go ahead and pay what they agreed to pay when they signed the contract, the "meltdown" will have no effect.

Here's a hint -- don't take out loans you can't afford to repay. I took a fixed rate mortgage in 2005 rather than risk increased payments of a variable rate, despite the initial low rates.

The real victims here are not the homeowners getting foreclosed, but the employees and shareholders of mortgage companies who are now left holding the bag while the other "victims" default on loans they never should have been given. Lots of business made high risk loans that should never have been made to begin with. The deadbeats who default on them aren't the ones suffering.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Adventures In Receipt Check Refusals Continue]]> @IRSistherootofallevil:
Call the FBI...that's a riot!! I'm sure they'll send out a crack squad of hitmen to rescue you from the evil thugs of Sam's Club.

"Forget that Al Qaida lead! We've got to get over to Sam's Club ASAP to rescue a besieged line of shoppers! Oh the humanity!!!"

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Adventures In Receipt Check Refusals Continue]]> @jpp123:
That minimum wage security guard was likely doing exactly what the store management asked him to do in order to earn said minimum wage.

I'd be curious to see some actual facts regarding how effective this method is to deter shoplifting. Despite the sentiments of many here, business aren't looking for ways to piss off customers.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Adventures In Receipt Check Refusals Continue]]> Obviously the businesses that do receipt checks incur the expense of having to pay an employee to monitor customers leaving the store. I suspect it's because it deters shoplifting. That seems to be a practical solution to a vexing problem in the retail industry.

I fail to see why folks get so worked up about having someone check your receipt. Privacy? Bullshit. You just had it all scanned at the register. They want to make sure what's in your cart is the same as what's on the register. At Sams, Costco, and everywhere else, they do it to every one.

All this high and mighty principle is misguided. Get over it, or shop elsewhere.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Delta's New Menu Will Feature Snacks And Meals From $2-$10 In Coach]]> @jamar0303: Yes, the US gov't has provided money to airlines to keep them from going bankrupt, but that's a far cry for using taxpayer dollars year after year to defray the day-to-day operating expenses of a national airline. Either way, you've got to account for all the costs. Lots of foreign airlines provide subsidies to their carriers, which allows them to provide better service for the same fair price. Not bad if you're in the seat, but a crappy deal if you're one of the taxpayers footing the bill.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Delta's New Menu Will Feature Snacks And Meals From $2-$10 In Coach]]> @thepounder:
Make sure you take into account the government subsidies that go into other countries airlines that allow them to provide for more passenger creature comforts. In essence, taxpayers in the countries who never fly are helping to cover the costs of the meals on these flights.

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<![CDATA[tcm22 commented on Home Depot Fires Another Employee For Stopping A Thief]]> This is also in sharp contrast to the recent article about the individual that was "detained" by an employee at TigerDirect when he refused to show a receipt. So which is it -- should employees detain suspected thieves or not?

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