New Tide Pods Box Will Aim To Keep Kids From Feeding On Detergent

Commented by ChuckECheese:
9:25 PM on May 25, 2012

And where "incorrect" gets the death penalty. I'd love to see their spelling bees!

New Tide Pods Box Will Aim To Keep Kids From Feeding On Detergent

Commented by ChuckECheese:
9:23 PM on May 25, 2012

My girlfriend's cat would always attack the meat and cheese when she left her bags on the floor when returning from the grocery. She couldn't leave the groceries alone for a minute.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
2:59 PM on May 22, 2012

Yes they are on the hook. This from the DoJ website:

"Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 ... The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Section 504 prohibit discrimination against individuals with disabilities on the basis of disability. (42 U.S.C. § 12131, et seq. and 29 U.S.C. § 794). These laws protect all people with disabilities in the United States. An individual is considered to have a "disability" if he or she has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities, has a record of such an impairment, or is regarded as having such an impairment.

The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in all State and local government programs, services, and activities regardless of whether they receive DOJ financial assistance; it also protects people who are discriminated against because of their association with a person with a disability. Section 504 prohibits discrimination by State and local law enforcement agencies that receive financial assistance from DOJ. Section 504 also prohibits discrimination in programs and activities conducted by Federal agencies, including law enforcement agencies.

These laws prohibit discriminatory treatment, including misconduct, on the basis of disability in virtually all law enforcement services and activities. These activities include, among others, interrogating witnesses, providing emergency services, enforcing laws, addressing citizen complaints, and arresting, booking, and holding suspects. These laws also prohibit retaliation for filing a complaint with DOJ or participating in the investigation. What remedies are available under these laws? If appropriate, DOJ may seek individual relief for the victim(s), in addition to changes in the policies and procedures of the law enforcement agency. Individuals have a private right of action under both the ADA and Section 504; you may file a private lawsuit for violations of these statutes. There is no requirement that you exhaust your administrative remedies by filing a complaint with DOJ first."

http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/spl/documents/polmis.php

The article makes the point that virtually all law enforcement agencies, including local ones, are subject to these rules because they receive some sort of Federal assistance.

The other odd piece of your claim is that the police officer has a selective duty to uphold the manager's right to kick out a disabled person over the disabled person's right to be served by the business, because one is a local rule and the other is Federal; and because local police don't enforce Federal rules, including the ADA. This is false and the article above and others on the same site address your delusions. Police are sworn

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
2:47 PM on May 22, 2012

Then the police didn't have jurisdiction to remove the guy from the business. The ADA says explicitly that you (the police or anybody else) cannot remove a person from a business merely because he has a service animal. You're suggesting that the police have the jurisdiction to break the law, but not to follow it because it came from a federal source. Strange logic there.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
1:43 PM on May 22, 2012

The police enforce laws without arresting people all the time. In this case, the police officer would have told the business owner, "according to the Americans with Disabilities Act, he has a right to be here with his service animal." Then he would wish them both a good day, turn around and walk away. So in this case the officer enforces the law by not acceding to the illegal demands of the business representative.

I think this is exactly why Popeye's is already issuing a public apology. They know they are not on the right side of either the law or of the opinion of the disabled public. The ADA is not a shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later system. The standards are already in place and if you don't follow them, you have broken the law - really, just like all other laws.

It is on Popeye's ultimately that their ignorant manager was able to find a police officer willing to enforce his illegal demand that is contrary to laws protecting disabled people. I suspect if the video evidence were clear that the service animal and/or its owner were being disruptive, Popeye's would not be issuing an apology.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
1:30 PM on May 22, 2012

This isn't about vague and difficult to define "discrimination" as you say. It's about not complying with the ADA. The ADA is a set of rules, like health codes or no-smoking laws. They are very clear and easy to understand and follow. They are created to maximize the disabled public's access to public businesses. Public businesses are public because they are licensed by public entities (aka governments) and benefit from myriad public support systems like police, fire, etc.

Among those ADA rules is that you cannot bar a person with a service animal from your place of business unless the animal or the animal's handler pose a real threat (not a potential or imagined one) to others in the business. The reason these rules were created is because too many businesses find it enjoyable to exclude the disabled. I've posted links to those rules and a discussion of them on this and other threads.

There are penalties to businesses and governments for not enforcing the ADA's rules. The police officer isn't personally liable for his inability to support disabled people, but his employing jurisdiction is. These laws were created with enforcement provisions because it is already understood that historically, businesses try to avoid complying with laws protecting disabled people.

Finally, you teabaggers need a reality check: You are not an island. Your business exists because of a strong stable economy and country, created by the cooperative efforts of many people and systems. You would not be able to have your business without an underlying set of principles which support the system and ALL the people of said society.

Teabaggers are most definitely guilty of selective choosing of which laws and which people they want to support. This is really an adolescent thought pattern and a basic type of lawlessness, akin to tribal systems. And we know that tribal systems are working out real well for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, amirite?

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
1:04 PM on May 22, 2012

The root of the matter is that the police can and do enforce federal rules all the time. We don't have to use the courts to make determinations about service animals and the ADA. The rules are already plenty clear.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
12:40 PM on May 22, 2012

Your idea of "let the courts decide it" isn't practical. It is expensive, time-consuming, and could be abused by business owners to exclude disabled people by using the courts as a delaying tactic. By the way, the police jurisdiction (the town) is on the hook for its officer refusing to enforce the ADA. This isn't an optional law.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
12:30 PM on May 22, 2012

The new ADA service animal rules permit only dogs and in some cases miniature horses. Helper monkeys are no longer protected under the ADA.

Popeyes Apologizes To Customer With Service Dog

Commented by ChuckECheese:
12:27 PM on May 22, 2012

There are new laws regarding service animals, passed about a year ago. The new rules exclude entitled companion chihuahuas, but make it clear that businesses must allow service dogs on the premises with the only exceptions being that the dog is creating a danger or nuisance. Nuisance means the animal is actively disrupting the business and other patrons, not "it's a nuisance because I don't like it."

http://www.dogstardaily.com/blogs/ada-service-dog-changes-effective-ides-march

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