Awww, I think it is pretty!

I believe the appropriate word is "fabulous."

You should have bought them, placed another order, and the auctioned ''girly'' edition to fraternity members girlfriends :)

@nequam: I believe the real appropriate word is "fierce."

@Victo: typically girlfriends are not permitted to wear letters though im sure that varies from fraternity to fraternity. I know mine didnt really approve of it.
on a side note, after this post I am glad to say I actually work for Spreadshirt.com and can confirm that our policies are some of the best in the industry. give it all a look at www.spreadshirt.com

@Victo: typically fraternities frown upon girlfriends or non-fraternity members wearing their letters, I know mine did.

on a side note, after this post i'm glad to say that i actually work for Spreadshirt.com and, without blowing too much smoke up my own ass, i can confirm that our policies regarding things like this are some of the best in the industry. Give it all a look at www.spreadshirt.com

REAL men wear pink.

Homophobia idiot is all he is.

@DeafLEGO: They were not pink but sparkly. Glittery.

@DeafLEGO: I don't think not willing to wear something glittery makes me homophobic--it just doesn't go well with my complexion.

@DeafLEGO: How is a fundamental dislike of such fabulous lettering homophobic? I'm not getting the vibe there, even plenty of queer guys don't necessarily want to get caught in clothes they consider unmanly.

Remember kids, quaff at least two beers before engaging in sloppy frat-brother mutual oral man-staff pleasuring. That way you can both give a sigh of relief while blaming the booze!
For the more advanced sexual maneuvers furtively - yet manfully - completed in the gang showers, do what navies since time immemorial have done: blame dropped soap!

PS: did they ship a sampler of ecstasy pills with those shirts? If so, that is customer service!

@Trai_Dep: I think you're confusing X with GHB.

After a cursory look at spreadshirt.com I can understand why he had trouble with the color. Unless he ordered "Silver Glitter" or one of those specialty colors, the colors need improved descriptions. The terms Flex and Flock are foreign to anyone outside of the printing business.

Still, I think they look so super, thanks for asking!

That was really nice of the company! As the former song and spirit chair of my Greek organization, ordering apparel was one of my chief responsibilities and some of the customer service out there is wretched.

@Trai_Dep: You have an advanced understanding of the mechanics of the situation. Indeed, the difference between a gay boy and a frat boy is... only a few beers.

I remember telling this to a frat guy. The next time he saw me, he said, "You know, last time I was here, you said something that was amazingly true, but I forgot what it was." I said, "What, about beer turning frat guys into gay guys?"

He quickly shut up, as he looked towards his girlfriend to see if she overheard.

@mantari:

Thank God you didn't say the only difference between a girl saying no and a girl saying yes is only a few beers.

@cmcd14:

I'm so glad I got that!

@DeafLEGO: So its homophobic to not like pink? How fucking retarded are you?

@primo.avanti: good to know. I'm trying to run my dad's silk screening biz, and we've got too much work!

Sorry to see all those comments about frat guys being gay. Nothing like broad generalizations to prove your e-superiority! 85% percent of Fortune 500 executives are Greek. All but two U.S. presidents since 1825 have been Greek. 76% of all U.S. Senators and Congressmen are Greek. I'm not saying that Greek life is for everyone, but deriding Greeks on a non-factual basis is pure ignorance.

Getting shirts printed in college pretty much sucks. Everyone near campus is really expensive (mostly because they throw the screen fee in at the last minute), and most of the time on the internet you get destroyed on shipping. If anyone needs shot glasses or mugs made I would look at [customglassware.com] I had a positive experience with them the last time I had shot glasses made.

Wow, very nice, Spreadshirt.

@dh86sj: I'm not sure how "gay" and "Fortune 500 excutive or elected representative" are mutually exclusive, or how you defended the hetero-nature of fraternity brothers (some of whom are gay).

Luckily I'm actually Greek so I get to use any combo of letters in the Greek Alphabet. I'll wear whatever combo whenever, I prefer the combo Beta Omega Beta. BOB. Let's go out with the BOB guys.

@Sonnymooks:

Or $10.

Yes, $10. That is all she wanted. It was a poor neighborhood and it was a long time ago. I only had $5.

Would they have done the same if he ordered 100?

@dh86sj: by greek do you mean "participated in anal sex"?

all the greek guys I knew were lame and paid a monthly fee to have friends, parties, and meet girls, I mean, join a frat. Actually pink WAS cool, till all the frat guys started wearing it in the most obnoxious shades to show how "bold"/"funny" they were. Kinda like aviator glasses. And trucker hats. and, to comment on the story, they should have kept the glitter. Its actually pretty sweet, and would have made a good conversation piece/story.

@Crazytree: LOL, I thought he/she was saying that all those people came from Greece. With such a high business success rate, I was about to send my kids there. Good thing I didn't.

Frats are overrated. All they do is make you pay X amount of dollars to join a glorified drinking club. One guy that tried to draft (is that what they call it?) me into his frat said it would be $300 just to get in.

Needless to say I turned him down.

@macdude22: luckily i couldn't care less, so i wear whatever i want on my shirts, whenever i want.

@dh86sj: "85% percent of Fortune 500 executives are Greek. All but two U.S. presidents since 1825 have been Greek. 76% of all U.S. Senators and Congressmen are Greek."

And this country keeps on tanking. If being Greek is so great then why does everything suck?

@penarestel:

I blame Halo.

As a Phi Psi I'd like to thank SpreadShirt for helping out some of our brothers...We're not always stereotypical "frat guys" regardless of what people think...I think I'll have my chapter look into this company in the future...also, if there are girls that help out with the fraternity (house moms, girlfriends, etc.) they usually get the designation of fraternity "sweetheart", and can sometimes wear letters just fyi...

@TechnoDestructo: ...and men not wearing enough glitter.

Very sad Consumerist, very sad. I don't understand why a company should bail out a dumb fraternity guy who ordered the wrong thing. This isn't anything extraordinary or special. The fraternity T-shirt business is cutthroat. You either service a fraternity and make them happy or lose them forever. Not all people living at a fraternity are willing to buy your shirts in exchange for a back rub.

Wow, this thread really brought out the townies and dormies and frat-wannabes/bashers, didn't it?

You go, Jock... I'm a stoner. Wha?

Amazing the ignorance in this thread about fraternity folks. I used to be anti-fraternity...until I joined one my junior year in college. I had met a number of friends casually/through class that turned out to be Greek, and eventually they asked me to join and I did. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that not only was their GPA average higher than that of the both the overall and men's average at my school, it was actually LESS expensive to pay to live in the house and eat in the house than it was to buy a meal plan and live in the dorms.

Its my opinion that the dorms are just another "fraternity" without the organization. I know my freshman year my floor was basically my first group of friends. How is that different than a fraternity?

How is that different than a fraternity?

No blind groupthink centered around really weak assertions of false superiority?

You didn't actually have to pay for people to be friends with you?

No anal sex with fellow same sex floormates?

No bukkake on the donut contests?

No lack of self esteem assuaged by paying for friends, rather than making them due to proximity based on, say legitimate commonalities in personality?

Regarding the comment above about girlfriends "not being able" to wear frat letters...exactly who would stop them? I can put whatever I want on a shirt. And I can give my shirts to whoever I want.

@cromartie: Well, BESIDES groupthink based on false superiority, paying for friends, anal sex with floormates, bukkake on the donut contests, and assuaging one's lack of self esteem...what have the Romans ever done for us?

@dh86sj: Actually the anti-Greek rhetoric was pretty calm (though it got a little worse after your post), but I'm tired of these same stats trotted out again and again. At least we didn't get the stats on community service and alumni giving, too.

I'm a former national office of one of the bigger Greek letter fraternities and I find that info only vaguely interesting and indicative of not much of anything. Almost any group can expect to be made fun of in a public forum. The "omg, they are so gay" jokes will be made about sailors, women's encounter groups, prisoners, cowboys and jocks, too.

AWESOME. I love it when a company does right by their customers and gets rewarded, directly, for it. As Spreadshirt will be -- both my boy and I were looking for a T-shirt printer after GoodStorm turned into another tentacle of the dreaded Zazzle...and we're definitely going with Spreadshirt because of this incident. Good job, guys! Good job, Internet! Good job, capitalism!

@Mary Marsala with Fries:
Mary, you seem to be straying from the topic at hand. The discussion is not about the original post concerning the tshirt company, but rather the pros and cons of frats and the apparent abundance of gay sex which their members allegedly enjoy.

Normal guys do not want people thinking they are gay. This is a fact. I am not trying to piss anyone off, just stating what everyone is thinking.

/I bet he was not too popular at the frat when they saw what he ordered lol

Ugh, the attitudes about the Greek community are so unnecessarily nasty. I really, legitimately, want to know what Greeks did to posters like cromartie.

Also, I think some of these posters are revealing their own homophobic biases. Why is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of as fraternity a raging closet homosexual? Also, I know many Greeks who are gay, several of whom are out to their brothers. At least one, I'm pretty sure, felt more comfortable coming out to the men he considered closest to him, than to anyone else. He knew they wouldn't judge because they already loved him as a brother.

The paying for your friends thing is a joke. I've been on the executive board of my sorority and see where the dollars go. It's not cheap to go Greek, but there are scholarships, and a lot of the money goes for the kind of programming you don't have access to with your regular group of friends. You know how people always talk about group discounts, or wanting to do something but you need x amount of people to do it? Greeks already have x amount of people. It's easier to raise money for philanthropies or to do community service work together also.

@generalhousewifery: Agreed. I'm treasurer of my sorority and know exactly where all the money goes, and everything has a purpose and benefits every sister in the long run.

@kable2: How you doin'?

I used to hang out with a frat that one of my friends from freshman year joined.

In re: to whoever said they have higher GPAs... they also have filing cabinets with all past assignments/exams filed by the class. They collect these over the years as the brothers move through and do different classes. This might not be true for all Greeks, but it is for some.

I stopped hanging out there after I went over one night and they were shit faced throwing darts at each others bare asses.

Real cool.

@primo.avanti: At my college, fraternities would allow girlfriends to wear letters, but only if they were very serious. It was kind of like a pre-engagement. Sororities would do that with boyfriends, too.

@macdude22: Actually, that would be Beta Omicron Beta. Omega looks like a horseshoe (kind of), not an O

@ffmariners: That doesn't even sound real.

Actually, it sort of does. It sound like the kind of asinine behavior I've seen pretty much any group of adolescent boys do.

The filing cabinets of papers are kind of an insidious myth. Oh, I am sure it exists in some really established fraternities, but the academic honest policy at my university is so strict that that sort of nonsense doesn't really fly. I do have to say that being in a sorority does provide access to study guides (from sisters who've taken a class before) and extra help; it's nice to have an art history major help you with the paper you're writing for that elective you took on a lark. There's also more support-there are always people to go to the library with and commiserate with about papers and work. Every week we award the title of Scholar of the Week to a sister, which is fun and encouraging. Sometimes I can buy texts and coursepacks off of a sister who recently took the course (or she'll give them away). But no, we don't have a filing cabinet of papers and tests, and none of the fraternities I am familiar with on campus have something like that either.

Greek life is great for rejects whose vapid personalities and lack of ethics make it difficult to declare an identity outside a group of purchased friends.

Sure, frat boys run our corporations and the government, LOOK AT THE GREAT JOB THEY'VE DONE. It's nothing more than a system of entry into an "old boys network" by paying dues and participating in stupid initiation rituals. After all, there's no better way to learn the white collar ropes than by cheating through college. I remember how those frat boy jerk offs would find every excuse to avoid doing work while bragging about their frat house's "filing cabinets" of old tests and quizzes when I got stuck doing group projects with them in college. There's nothing better than getting hired based on ass kissing skills and some stupid letters you wore rather than actual qualifications.

I take consolation in knowing those jerk offs wouldn't survive a day in my blue collar ranks.

@ffmariners:

And if the profs are lazy enough to hand out the same test semester after semester, why WOULDN'T you keep old tests on file? Sounds like common sense to me.

About half the replies in here sound like they're either marketing for Spreadshirt or the greek community. Even "Alvin's" original submission sounds like a presser...

@generalhousewifery:
Quote: "I do have to say that being in a sorority does provide access to study guides (from sisters who've taken a class before) and extra help"

It's called "make friends in your classes instead of being a greek snot if you really need that extra pat on the ass to get by"

Quote: "There's also more support-there are always people to go to the library with and commiserate with about papers and work."

Do you always need somebody to hold your hand?

Quote: "Every week we award the title of Scholar of the Week to a sister, which is fun and encouraging."

I don't need to be told that I'm smart... I know :)

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