Earlier this week, the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation announced a rule change that would cut off funding it had provided to Planned Parenthood to pay for breast exams. After a massive public outcry regarding this decision, the foundation today decided it had maybe made a mistake.
The Komen folks had been defending their actions all week by claiming that it pulled the Planned Parenthood funding because of new foundation rules forbidding it from providing grants to organizations that are under investigation. Planned Parenthood is currently being investigated by Congressman Cliff Stearns of Florida for allegations it illegally used federal funds to pay for abortions.
Even as late as last night, the Komen leadership maintained that it would probably not fund Planned Parenthood in the future — regardless of an investigation — because it only provides clinical breast exams and does not actually do mammograms, biopsies or provide cancer treatments.
Planned Parenthood countered that it provides the exact same services that a patient would get from visiting her OB/GYN.
Regardless, after sleeping on it — and the voices of thousands very angry former donors — Komen had a change of heart.
Here is the announcement from the foundation’s board of directors:
We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women’s lives. The events of this week have been deeply unsettling for our supporters, partners and friends and all of us at Susan G. Komen. We have been distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons or to specifically penalize Planned Parenthood. They were not.
Our original desire was to fulfill our fiduciary duty to our donors by not funding grant applications made by organizations under investigation. We will amend the criteria to make clear that disqualifying investigations must be criminal and conclusive in nature and not political. That is what is right and fair.
Our only goal for our granting process is to support women and families in the fight against breast cancer. Amending our criteria will ensure that politics has no place in our grant process. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.
It is our hope and we believe it is time for everyone involved to pause, slow down and reflect on how grants can most effectively and directly be administered without controversies that hurt the cause of women. We urge everyone who has participated in this conversation across the country over the last few days to help us move past this issue. We do not want our mission marred or affected by politics – anyone’s politics.
Starting this afternoon, we will have calls with our network and key supporters to refocus our attention on our mission and get back to doing our work. We ask for the public’s understanding and patience as we gather our Komen affiliates from around the country to determine how to move forward in the best interests of the women and people we serve.
We extend our deepest thanks for the outpouring of support we have received from so many in the past few days and we sincerely hope that these changes will be welcomed by those who have expressed their concern.
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Ah, the power of the internets.
The Boob Blackout worked!
Horses have all run away… bit late to be closing the barn doors.
This was exactly my thought.
This. The damage has been done.
Sorry, I won’t be reversing my decision on Komen. But then again, I made my decision prior to the current set of shenanigans.
It was badly “Handeled” from the start.
I guess Komen gets the boobie prize.
Too late. I figured out what they were all about when they were flinging lawsuits at everyone that used “…for the cure”.
I never understood the SGK stance on the issue. Any congress person can start an investigation on any company. From my readings, the rule was made specifically to include Planned Parenthood. If that’s the case, that’s a slap in the face. Sure you may not like what they do on a personal level. But if the SGK $$ was being used for its intended purpose, that’s the most important thing.
No idea how charities work, but in the gov, we have colors of money. Anything that SGK donates for breast cancer work should only be used for that. If that was being followed, this mess should have never got started.
But I still can’t stand SGK or others like MADD. They are organizations run amok with power trips on the level of Monster Cable thinking they run the show. ENOUGH with the PINK jerseys for the NFL. Enough with pink everything. You don’t own pink. PInk is a color. I don’t know how a color raises awareness. If you want to solve this, ask for $$. Don’t partner with organizations that abuse the pink to make more money on the deceit of customers.
Since they are a charity which relies on donor funds, is relatively middle of the road in politics and tries to appeal to a large portion of the population, they have to remain sensitive to what could cause them to lose or receive money based on how they distribute said money.
In this case they listened to a loud minority, made a misstep and the once quiet majority stepped up.
Or the other way around. What is obviously needed is two separate organizations with different support policies. Then people can donate to which they feel is right. Fighting breast cancer itself is definitely a universal ideal. Abortion clearly divides the country. Two organizations would be a win-win.
If it’s a universal ideal to fight breast cancer, wouldn’t two competing organizations fighting about the “right way” to do it be counterproductive? How much money would be spent on communicating how “right” each organization is?
How about one truly neutral organization? And/or one that focuses on real research instead of marketing?
I have to say I think this isn’t an awful idea – when I think “planned parenthood” I think of things that relate to, you know, parenthood (though in my mind that isn’t just abortions but also family planning, helping poor women get proper info while pregnant to have a healthy baby, etc). Breast cancer is an awful thing, and it is great they do things to try to prevent that, but I had no idea that they did anything related to it until this whole issue started, and I am guessing it is that way with a lot of people. Maybe they should make that a separate entity and give it a non-parenthood name (but like under the same umbrella) just to help with the confusion. But I am glad that as of now, since they do also do things like breast cancer screening and information, that they are getting funds for that.
Planned Parenthood can do pretty much any service a private OB/GYN can do, depending on the facility. Low income women can go to PP for all of their gynecological care and that includes breast care. Guys can use them too for STD screenings and treatment. For a low income woman without health insurance PP is often the only facility nearby that she can afford.
Once you take that opportunity away these women will likely go without routine care and end up in the ER, rack up a huge bill that they obviously cannot pay for, and be in poorer health overall. She may even have to bear more children that she and her husband/partner can’t support because she couldn’t get access to low cost birth control or abortion if necessary. Then the hospital, and thus tax-payers, get stuck with the enormous delivery/surgery/treatment bills.
But SGK doesn’t want to think about any of this. They just want to please their new VP and to hell with everyone else.
Fundies only care about making sure you get pregnant, get born and when you die. It doesn’t matter if you can afford a child or not. It doesn’t matter if the child is born with problems due to lack of care. It doesn’t matter if the child dies due to neglect or other problems. That’s all the Child’s fault for being born, right?
No it’s the mother’s fault for being a filthy whore.
Yes abortion clearly divides the country, and some people can’t seem to understand that just because a facility offers abortions, or shares a name with one that does, doesn’t mean it exists for that sole purpose. It’s like some kind of freakin boogey man, once this type of person finds out that a facility offers breast cancer screenings AND abortions the value of those screenings becomes…tainted somehow.
If a group of people can’t understand that women’s health services include a wide variety of care and procedures that are seperate unto themselves then why should they be coddled in their idiocy? Let THEM start their own damn charity…oh wait.
Um, hell no. To fight breast cancer is to work against God’s will. God wants you to have that cancer, just like he wants you to have that baby.
Right, Christians? Right?
#theresnosuchthingasmagic
LOL, hearted!
Why? You already have the ability to impose donor-specified restrictions on charitable gifts. There are unrestricted gifts, temporarily restricted gifts, and permanently restricted gifts. You don’t need to break up an organization to put a restriction on a donation.
The article I read (NYT) said that they knew up front that the only organization that would be defunded as a result of this rule change was Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood is a constant target of politically motivated investigations, so of course they are perpetually under investigation.
So I read this as “blah, blah, blah, we got caught pandering to a small but vocal minority, and we somehow had forgotten that a majority of the American public is actually in favor of keeping abortions safe and legal. Our bad.”
The problem is that the rule actually should have stopped funding to more organizations other than PP- like Penn State which is being investigated for the sexual abuse scandal. SGK decided to only enforce the rule against PP.
Wow, is that really the case, because if so that is just another reason for me to not be a fan of SGK. It should be all or none, not selective (and not just one). I assumed they had used the rule on other groups also (though ones that were either more easily justified and not hot button issue related) – I didn’t realize it was ONLY Planned Parenthood that got cut off.
Your mention of the NFL got me wondering how many corporations/organizations will stop working with Komen. Will we see pink embellishments on NFL uniforms next season? (I hope not!)
I thought Mary Kay Cosmetics owned pink.
Meh, too little too late. They need to spend less on pink and more on research. 25% just isn’t enough.
agreed. my pink 2012 $$ are being given to local food pantry – for the cure of hungry children.
Dear SamiJ
Please cease and desist from using the term “for the cure” immediately. For the cure¬Æ is a registered trademark of Susan G. Komen for the Cure¬Æ and may not be used without the express written consent of Susan G. Komen for the Cure¬Æ. If you do not comply with this order a firestorm of legal action will be visited upon you and everyone you love. Susan G. Komen for the Cure¬Æ will spare no expense in tracking you down and suing you into homelessness. If we must, we will spend every single penny we have on this legal action. The hell with poor women and their cancer screening, this is about a brand and protecting that brand at all costs. Also you can’t use the color pink for anything.
Sincerely,
SeattleSeven Esq.
Yes, we will take all the monies that you have contributed over the years, that you *thought* was going to breast cancer research, to pay our legal firm to sue your ass into the next century.
Shouldn’t an organization’s who goal is to combat breast cancer use their donations on combating breast cancer? You can say that “Oh this money only goes towards screenings.” But in reality it just frees up money to be used on things some people might not agree with.
Think of it this way: A lot of people are upset about the amount of money being spent on “defense” in America. Well, then how about we tell you that your tax money is only going to support non-defense related spending. Would that make you feel any better? No. Because the funding for defense will still be there and still be happening at the same levels. It’s just “you” wouldn’t be “contributing” to it.
Also: Donations are up 100% because of this decision.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/02/after-cutting-ties-with-planned-parenthood-komen-donations-up-100-percent/
Sounds like lots of people need to do charge backs on their donations. Sounds to be like a big scam cooked up by both PP and SGK together to drive a surge of donations (ill-gained on the SGK side due to their brief false claim of not supporting organizations associated with abortion).
Do you also believe we never landed on the moon?
my head hurts… how do you determine that donate is up 100% ? all the people who normally donated, have donated?
Math fail.
+100%, as in, double what they originally had.
wouldn’t double be 200%?
No. The difference is “200%” vs “up 100%”. You already started at 100%. If you go up 100%, you are now at 200%.
ohhh I can see it.
thanks.
Color of money. In government, especially federal government, all funding has to be approved for a specific purpose. You can’t just take $500 million from defense and put it towards schools. It’s a process of having a budget that shows that and gets voted on.
As I said in my comment, no idea the rules of charities. But in fed gov, you must use $$ for what it’s budgeted for and approved for.
I think you don’t understand how targeted grants work. Taking away the SGK money won’t cause Planned Parenthood to perform fewer abortions. The SGK money was given to Planned Parenthood with the condition that it be spent for breast screenings. Planned Parenthood tracks every penny spent, probably more closely than other organizations, because of how political some of the things they do are. If Planned Parenthood doesn’t have the SGK money (or a replacement from some other donor), the result will be that they will do fewer breast screenings. The number of abortions will be unchanged.
Donations up 100%? Wow, they really made the right decision, then!
Er… then why did they reverse course?
Because donations to Planned Parenthood were up 3000%.
I made a $50 donation to PP on behalf of SGK this morning.
” But in reality it just frees up money to be used on things some people might not agree with.”
Uh, no. You don’t understand how PP works at all, do you? They use their own private funds for abortion. The money that SKG was giving them was used for breast cancer screening. They aren’t at all related.
It’s the old fungibility of money canard. Conservatives think it applies to everybody except defense contractors — they get paid taxpayer money, and they lobby, but somehow that’s not taxpayer money being spent on lobbying.
I was thinking of possibly donating to SGK. But I did figure they would eventually reverse, so I held off. It happened faster than I expected.
Everyone now knows that Komen is being run by a bunch of anti-abortion right wing wackadoos. Good job! Where before you could have silently pushed your political agenda in slow and subtle ways, but by taking a sledge hammer to it, you’ve shown the world you’re true colors (and its not all pink). Now many people will think twice before they donate, if they ever donate again. Way to promote women’s health!
So…a Congressional member can start an investigation for any reason, at any time. The member that started this one is “in cahoots” with the right winger conservative that is now in charge of Planned Parenthood. Then, they state they apologize for making us doubt them, and they’ll fulfill their current obligations and will allow PP to apply for funding in the future (no guarantees though).
I wonder what the “investigation” was about that caused them to suspend the grant?
Just a conservative congressman trying to win some political points. They can initiate investigations into anything they want. It’s not a criminal investigation.
Too late, they’ve shown their true colors. And if they really did have a legit reason to cut off funding, they would have stuck by their guns.
Meanwhile, donations have been pouring into Planned Parenthood, so the (temporary) defunding by the foundation will only end up *helping* Planned Parenthood. If the Komen reps were really great spin doctors, this is the part where they would have said “That’s what we wanted to happen! See, we helped!”.
Yeah, sure it’s not political…..I do not believe they had stopped funding any organization other than Planned Parenthood. So that makes their criteria a bit suspect.
Anyway, today’s press release still gives them plenty of wiggle room.
To be fair, they also cut research funding for anything using embryonic stem cells.
But that doesn’t do much to enhance the “it wasn’t political” excuse they are using.
Too late. Screw ‘em. The mask came off and we see the politics inside SGK. Congressman Stearn’s ideological “investigation” of Planned Parenthood was a good excuse and the new VP at SGK, Karen Handle, is a right-wing radical (Sara Palin campaigned for Handle’s failed bid for Geogia governor) who obviously got on the board because of her politics – that makes me wonder what else is under that particular rock. Too bad. I’ve been a supporter and big donor (for me) for years. I had always thought they were apolitical and they shifted. They lost me.
Agree. If nothing else I guess it’s a good thing SGK is really being scrutinized about their practices and how much of their money is going back out to providers. It’s also nice to see people not just laying back and accepting a tax-exempt non-partisan charity doing something remarkably partisan and uncharitable.
Too little, too late. If I had ever been inclined to donate to them again, they’ve already blown the opportunity with recent regressive actions and by spamming me with appeals for money
And they haven’t taken back their position on funding embryonic stem cell research _even if it has promise to help breast cancer treatment_.
The threat of actual bankruptcy exposed SGK’s intellectual bankruptcy.
Half of the people killed by Planned Parenthood are women, yet SGK gives them money to save women’s lives. What?
Of the services provided by PP, I’d say abortions are like…what…1% of them? Of course in Foxbots’ minds, it’s 100% of their business.
It is actually 3% of their business and 300k murders a year. Over the course of PP’s lifetime they have already killed more people than the holocaust.
Hmmm, why aren’t they under arrest then?
Oh wait, because they haven’t murdered anyone. EMBRYO != PERSON
You have to keep repeating that lie because otherwise you know your supporting murder.
I’m not sure I’m able to be swayed by someone who doesn’t even know the difference between “your” and “you’re”.
So, if a woman has an abortion, should she be put in jail?
Nope…tied up to a stake in the town square and set ablaze! That’ll show em!
Out of curiosity, do you ever visit your local hospital for treatment for yourself or anyone in your family? Because I’m fairly certain that somewhere in that building there is someone either being prescribed birth control or having an abortion performed.
I’m sure if you’re going to boycott, it’ll happen right across the board. Right?
So, do you call your god a murderer whenever a woman miscarries? Or is the woman to blame then, too?
A fetus/embryo is not a person. A fetus/embryo is not counted in the census. A fetus/embryo is not assigned a social security number. A fetus/embryo cannot be claimed as a dependent. Must I go on?
Look up the legal definition of “murder” and you’ll find out just how wrong you are.
Props for looking up the real statistic. Mine was just a top of the head guess, so I’m impressed I was only off by 2%. So the death of an embryo or fetus is the murder of a person. There are 1 million miscarriages a year (roughly 1 in 4). That’s a lot of accidental murders.
Also…if 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage, then 75,000 of those 300,000 would have died naturally, without PP. I’m really not callous towards abortion, but I don’t see it as simple murder either.
I’m sorry, that has to do with preventing breast cancer how….?
Abortions count for 3% of total services provided. There are conservative conspiracy fundies who are claiming that it is a lie, and PP is inflating the numbers who are stark raving mad about SGK ‘cowardly caving to pro-abortion leftys’. They are dumb.
The planned parenthood website has data on the total breakdown, unfortunately I cannot access that website at work.
9% of the women who go to Planned Parenthood get abortions. The difference between 3% and 9% is that PP counts all the services separately. The women getting abortions also get counseling, pregnacy tests and so on so they’re purposely obfuscating the numbers.
PP opposes laws that would inform parents that their underage daughters are getting an abortion, opposes abstinance education and routinely fails to report statutory rape.
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a strong believer in eugenics and they disproportionatly target blacks. They kill more blacks in three days than the KKK ever did, and Sanger wanted to sterilize blacks to control their population. They gladly accepted money in 2008 from a person who stated that he specifically wanted his donation to abort black to decrease the black population.
PP is all about killing people for money and nothing else. If they really cared they would refer adoption over abortion, yet abortion is referred over adoption by a rate of about 180 to 1.
“9% of the women who go to Planned Parenthood get abortions.”
That would be because there generally isn’t anywhere else to *get* an abortion. PP is quite often the only place in the area that will provide abortions.
“PP opposes laws that would inform parents that their underage daughters are getting an abortion”
And I agree with them. An underage girl should still have 100% say on whether or not she should remain pregnant. Many parents will force their children to give birth. Forced births are not healthy births. Additionally, some parents are abusive and will not listen to reason. As long as other forms of education and counseling are available, this is a good thing.
“opposes abstinance education”
GOOD. Abstinence education has been proven to be a huge failure, and in fact it just promotes accidental and unwanted pregnancies. I would hope they would oppose abstinence education. Any logical, sane, intelligent person should. Do some research. Abstinence education does not work. Not even a little. Oh, and what they oppose is abstinence-only education. Interesting that you left that word out. They promote full sexual education, which includes information on abstinence.
“routinely fails to report statutory rape.”
I’d be interested to see the reasonings behind this. What if the girl doesn’t want them to report it? She should have that say. I’d also like to see where you’re getting your statistics. I’m calling bullshit. It’s probably far more complicated than you are able to comprehend.
“Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a strong believer in eugenics and they disproportionatly target blacks. They kill more blacks in three days than the KKK ever did, and Sanger wanted to sterilize blacks to control their population. They gladly accepted money in 2008 from a person who stated that he specifically wanted his donation to abort black to decrease the black population.”
Money is money. Does it really matter who it comes from, as long as it helps women? Also, does the founder actually run the organization any longer? I don’t think she does. Therefore, moot point. Additionally, “they kill more blacks in three days than the KKK ever did” is complete bullshit. Fetuses are not people, and, really, that is such a huge stawman I don’t even know where to begin.
“PP is all about killing people for money and nothing else.”
Ahh. I see. So I guess my birth control consultation I have with PP — because I do not have health insurance and cannot afford my yearly exams anywhere else — isn’t what I assume it is. Instead they are going to kill me. Since they are murderers.
Oh, and fetuses aren’t people. Just saying’.
Abstainance only “education” does not work. It has never worked. It never WILL work.
“The bible says so” is not a valid argument to a teenager whos every waking moment is filled with the desire for sex. Lying to them and telling them that they’ll get an STD immediately upon touching another person is not a valid statement. Refusing to teach safe-sex because of their incomprehensible hatred of birth control CAUSES nice Christian (jewish/muslim/hebrew,etc.) boys and girls to get pregnant when their instincts get the better of them.
Whether the fundies like it or not, PEOPLE ARE HAVING PRE-MARITAL SEX RIGHT NOW (Including self-proclaimed fundies). They are not going to stop doing this, regardless of what some “holy men” say they should be doing.
I may not like the idea of Abortion, and would be devastated if my wife ever wanted to get one, but I will never try to legislate that she be chained to a bed and forced to have a child against her will (being figurative obviously). That the fundies are willing and even eager to destroy PP, which does so much more than Abortions (which are not funded by the government) is beyond reproach.
We could agree to disagree on this issue, but then you’d still be wrong.
If you’ve ever had sex with a woman who used birth control or are a woman who has used birth control, you’ve most likely participated in the murder of your own child.
Planned parenthood has saved far more women and children than it ever killed.
And their ratio is far better than yours.
I’m not even sure where to begin refuting any of this bullshit, so I’m not really going to bother. Just going to leave this here to point out that everything in your post is either bullshit, obfuscation, or a complete misrepresentation of the facts.
“What good is it of a person to gain the whole world and lose their soul?” (The Bible)
“There are two ways to be, and truth does not depend on me” (King’s X)
Way to stick to your beliefs, SGK. Your beliefs apparently are only as deep as your wallet.
“They need you right now, but when they don’t, they’ll cast you out, like a leper! … They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you.”
-The Joker
See, I can quote something out of context and make it seem useful too!
It must be nice to live in a world where there are no shades of grey, no unwanted child is ever abused or goes hungry, and capital punishment and war don’t exist.
What a nice non-apology. I, in turn, will give a non-commitment of non-money.
I think I might love you.
I’m sorry, I cannot get involved with my patients. Not unless you sign this waiver.
Sounds like some organization just lost a huge amount of donations for being dopes.
Yes Komen this *is* the sounds of your donations magically drying-up.
I bet it was more Corps such as lowes, energizer, general mills, etc… telling them to STFU as people have been writing them as well.
I bet single small donations are up from right wingers, but not enough to make up if one large corp donor pulls out.
Let’s see…there are, what, 5, 10, 15 different forms of birth control for women? And only one for men. And women know this ahead of time. Yet they still blame the man for everything that happens to them.
All media would cease to exist without advertising. Advertisers know that the majority of the money spent in the USA is by women. So, who do you think they cater to? They even went so far as to ask women what their number one problem is. And wouldn’t you know it, it turned out to be men! So, what do you think advertisers focus their commercials on? After all, you don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
You just watch….the majority of the Superbowl commercial’s will cut downs on men. Men can’t do this, or that, or know what type of floor wax is best, etc.
Say what you want, but you know it is true……
Please ignore the troll.
Crispyduck already used it once today, but this post really deserves it again:
“What you’ve just said … is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Yeah, sure. You just watch the replies to my comment. The majority of them will be by women. The same women who they they can change a guy and his ways. Ever wonder why “extreme makeover” shows are so popular on TV?
….You need therapy.
I’m pretty sure we’re beyond therapy and well into the realm of medication for this one…
I can’t even get snarky because it’s just so sad.
Like I said….say what you want, but you know it is true. All these women saying their husbands agree with them. Of course they do! But get them away from you, and the story will change.
The United States will continue to favor women in court, but one day, the governement will do a study to figure out why men won’t want to get married (and imagine how much money that will cost), and they will trace it to TV shows like “The Real Housewives of (whatever city)”.
Doesn’t the very fact that you need a pre-nup these days tell you that women are favored in this county?
I sure hope that every male between the ages of 18-25 is paying attention to what is being said here. This is what will happen if your marriage fails….and statistics indicate it will. I have never been married and never will be. I gave up on American women long ago. People often ask me “who is going to take care of you when you are old?” Well, go watch the movie “Gran Torino”, and watch how the family treats Clint after his wife dies. Specifically, watch the grand daughter (the one caught smoking in the garage), and watch how she acts during the reading of the will. Do you really think this won’t happen to you? No one in America cares about anyone anymore. It has been this way for the past 25 years, thanks to “reality” TV.
Say what you want now, but years from now, you will understand what I am talking about. I doubted it when I was younger, but now see that those who told me were right.
” I have never been married and never will be.”
Gee, I can’t imagine why…
You won’t have a family because of the way Clint Eastwood’s fictional family treated him in a movie? That is beyond sad.
While reading his women-hating rants I couldn’t help thinking he is exactly the type of person that turns into a serial rapist/murderer. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if he had a few restraining orders against him in several states.
See? This comment was made by a woman, even though they will deny it with some sort of comment after I’ve posted mine. I could guarantee it if I had some way to do it on the internet.
Wow. Just wow. Do you really hate women that much? What did your mother do to you?!
No, I don’t hate woman, and my mom is dead. It is just something I’ve noticed that has happened to America. Just sit at home some day and watch TV. Or, better yet, go to a Starbucks at 10 am on a weekday and sit next to the inevitable group of women. They will be aged 20-early 30′s and have nothing good to say about their husband’s. Even though he is the one out there earning the money that they spend in order to show off their lifestyle to make other women jealous. Are you really that naive and can’t see this in every day life? You really can’t figure out why guys don’t want to get married these days, or require that the future wife sign a prenuptial agreement that is 10 inches thick? Why hasn’t a reality show been done from the guy’s point of view, where the woman is the gold digger and the guy is not just seeking sex? Come on. Wake up. This is how it is in America. Ask yourself why 2 out of 3 marriages fail in America. Don’t be stupid. You know it is true. That is why you keep replying to the messages I make.
It was a rhetorical question, genius. Seriously. Therapy. Meds. You need them.
What scientific poll was it that found that the number one problem women have is men?
LOL. Scientific poll. Hahaha.
I think it had something to do with Jezebel.
Well I’m sure it equals the number of guys bitching about their girlfriends or wives who are raising their children, cleaning their houses, and cooking their meals.
You’ve never been in a healthy relationship with a woman, that much is clear. I also feel responsible to let you know that not all marriages have a breadwinning man and a leeching wife that spends all his money on superficial shit.
The divorce rate is closer to 50%. There are more married couples in America with both spouses working than there are with just one breadwinner.
There is so much wrong with your comment that I’m not sure it’s worth going any deeper. Stop getting your information from reality television and take a look at what the common family goes through day after day. The Kardaschians are not a “common family”, yet it’s clear that’s who you’re basing your worldview on.
Why do you care what a bunch of women who have nothing to do with you talk about?
Why are you so fanatically worried about women in general? BTW, my husband thinks you are insane and very very needy.
As someone who believes in speaking out against misandry and misogny, I think you’re making a good cause look bad (like a lot of idiots who follow said cause). Seriously, either come out of the closet and date men, or STFU and look for a decent woman, because son, you need a girlfriend.
If you love men so much, why don’t you go marry one!
/head asplodes.
There’s a very good way for men to prevent getting women pregnant. It’s called a vasectomy.
Sigh. I told you people to ignore the troll. But what did you do? You had to bait it anyway…..
Yeah, sorry Komen, but you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.
OMM (One Million Moms) is going to be pissed!!! lol
No, they DID NOT reverse their decision. They said (a) they’d dish out the $$ they already committed to dish out, and (b) they would allow Planned Parenthood to reapply in the future.
So NO, they did not reverse their decision!
Yep, this is all spin.
Actually, it is a reversal. Under their “modified” guidelines that they mentioned yesterday, PP would have not met the criteria to reapply. PP has known that they’d always be required to reapply for the grant. On Tuesday, SGK changed their criteria and PP would not have even been able to apply. Now they can apply again.
They only apologized and said they would fund current grants. There is nothing that says they will continue when these grants are finished. No more pink sh*t for me. SGK is just a big money making scam machine.
I’ve decided to rebrand Breast Cancer Awareness Month to Women’s Health Month, and I am saving up all my loose change this year to give to PP October 1. I always thought there was something off with the SGK Foundation,.
So, as soon as an organization is under investigation, Komen cuts off the funding? Maybe you could wait until the investigation is complete rather than assuming there is wrong doing.
So, if Komen were under investigation, would they stop funding themselves and refuse donations?
According to a thread on Reddit yesterday, Penn State, which is under investigation for that whole football coach touching little boys incident, is still receiving funds from SGK. The “under investigation” line was bull right from the start.
Can you clarify who is investigating Penn State? And I’m talking about the university broadly, not just specific individuals with ties to the university. I am aware that the university has commissioned an independent investigation, but if that is all you are referring to, then any organization which solicits an annual audit, for example (which would be a gigantic number) would be disqualified by your standards. And if there is a Penn State university-wide outside investigation currently underway that I don’t know about, I’m curious to hear details.
High ranking officials at Penn State are being investigated by a federal grand jury for their allegedly criminal actions in their capacities as representatives of the school. I’d say that fits the criteria better than an audit.
Or has that case come to a close and I missed the outcome?
PP is always under investigation. If some right winger wants to score some political points with his pro-life base, he’ll initiate an investigation. Nothing has ever come of it, but then he can put it in his campaign commercials.
So, as soon as an organization is under investigation, Komen cuts off the funding? Maybe you could wait until the investigation is complete rather than assuming there is wrong doing.
So, if Komen were under investigation, would they stop funding themselves and refuse donations?
Too late. They are doomed. Some dude on MSNBC predicted that they’d dissolve within the next couple of years and I would not be surprised if that happens, even after the reversal. I was dozing so that’s all I remember. I think people are starting to realize what little this organization does to actually help with cancer research, and help those who have cancer, or who are at risk of getting cancer.
if you want your charity money to go somewhere useful, I suggest donating a charity where a good bit more than 40% of the money donated actually goes to charity or research. 40% is shameful.
guidestar.org
“Komen folks had been defending their actions all week by claiming that it pulled the Planned Parenthood funding because of new foundation rules forbidding it from providing grants to organizations that are under investigation.”
Yet they did not cut ties with Penn state, Bank of America, etc…
They have ties with the University of Pennsylvania (aka Penn) in Philadelphia, Pa. not Pennsylvania State University (aka Penn State) in State College, Pa. They are two entirely different schools.
What about BofA?
I’m fairly certain it’s Penn State Hershey Hospital, which is in Hershey PA.
Yes, they didn’t cut ties with those organizations, only Planned Parenthood.
Very, very interesting.
Komen gives grants to BofA?? Definitely never donating to them now.
They were distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons…
Yeah, right.
They still will never get another penny from me and I will make every effort to double my donations to Planned Parenthood this year.
I have an appointment at PP tomorrow! I am really glad about this. I will make sure to thank them.
“We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities. “
Ahem, this is not a real reversal.
They are not promising to support PP past their current contractual commitments. All they have done is rescinded the scam, as reported in the Atlantic, of making a rule about investigations specifically to give them cover to dump PP for right wing political reasons as opposed to the reasons they supposedly exist for, that is, reasons related to actually screening for and treating breast cancer.
It is as if someone told their PR person to make up a weaselly press release that gives the appearance of a reversal such that lazy media outlets would report it as such. Hmm…
Nice to see a reversal but a decision is a decision. I’m not going to buy cheese from the guy who decided to kill my dog but then changed his mind.
All this means is that SGK won’t pull their money this year. Instead, they wait until next year, and quietly deny any grants that PP applies for. All they have to do is say that PP didn’t follow some minor step in the grant process, or even that they feel that women would be better served if the money was sent elsewhere. By then, they’re probably hoping this will all blow over.
You got it.
Well in that case, I’m still not going to support your organization anymore. True colors exposed. What has been seen cannot be unseen. I invite you to go and eff yourselves.
The picture makes it look like PP has to paint all their buildings pink to keep the funding.
So will they be mentioning the fact that they haven’t pulled funding from Penn State (7.5 million a year)? Penn State is currently under investigation. http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/komen-foundation-gave-75-million-grant-penn-state
Basic comment:
The people who founded SKC, Norman and Susan Brinker, were die hard republicans. The now former Mrs. Brinker, who chairs the organization, served as an ambassador for G. W. Bush. That should explain why this happened.
Now investigate why SGK has soo many VP’s in swanky offices and how much money actually goes to where its supposed to and not needless overhead. Seriously, if they did fund a cure SGK would be out of business so why try…
It is all a sham. I have a pink freaking SGK trash can on my block. Srsly, I am calling shenanigans.
SGK is going to find that waffling on the issue is a bigger problem than taking a stand. My wife made a decision to start contributing to the organization given their new stand on PP. Other did the same as SGK had a 100% increase in contributions immediately after the announcement. PP did as well also. However, with their backing down they have managed to offend both the pro life and pro death advocates. Bad mistake.
Neither SGK or PP does anything to really help women. What a joke.
This is a smokesreen. Don’t beleive them until you see their check to Planned Parenthood.