Disney World Deploys Massive Underground Lair To Combat Lines

Disney has developed a new subterranean nerve center to combat lines as they happen. Pirates of the Caribbean too slow? Launch more boats and deploy a Jack Sparrow actor to distract customers. Fantasyland overflowing but Tomorrowland bare? Send out a mini-parade to lure guests over. Sounds like the basis for a fun new real-time strategy game.

Disney Tackles Major Theme Park Problem: Lines [NYT]

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  1. qwickone says:

    This is totally awesome! It reminds me of that traffic game where you have to manipulate the lights in order to avoid gridlock.

  2. Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

    “In recent years, according to Disney research, the average Magic Kingdom visitor has had time for only nine rides — out of more than 40 — because of lengthy waits and crowded walkways and restaurants. In the last few months, however, the operations center has managed to make enough nips and tucks to lift that average to 10. “

    That makes the ticket price seem a little high…

    • dolemite says:

      I went to Disneyworld when I was around 13. All I recall was 2 hour waits for rides, and that the food costs 5x more than outside of their Disney nation. Not in any hurry to go back.

      I think they just raised rates too.

      • adamstew says:

        things are a LOT better there now. They have the attractions and crowd management down to a science. With planning and flexibility on my part, i’ve never waited more than 45-60 minutes or so for anything.

        During the non-peak times of the year, everything will be walk on, except for the really popular attractions which will be about 20-30 minutes.

        During the peak times of year, most of the really popular attractions will have about a 30-45 minute wait. All the other ones will either be walk-on or up to 20 minutes wait.

        The fast pass system (free…included with your park tickets) can also almost completely eliminate the wait times for the popular attractions. You put your park ticket in to a machine and it spits out a piece of paper with a 1 hour return time window on it. It saves your place in line and you can go ride other rides, go eat, etc. Then when it comes time to ride, just come back, go to the special line for fast pass returns and you’ll wait maybe 5 minutes to get on the ride (it can be a little longer if they get a bunch of people unexpectedly returning at once). You can get a fast pass for each person in your travel party at least every 2 hours…usually sooner than that.

        The food costs are pretty reasonable now, I think. A full meal at one of the fast-food type places there (Burger/sandwich/etc, fries/chips/etc, soda/tea/juice/etc and dessert) will cost you about $15 for an adult meal. Which is about about 50% more than what i’d expect to pay for that same meal off property. The sit-down restaurants are about $40 per meal (entree, dessert and drink) including tip for the normal ones… The high-class “signature restaurants” will cost you about $75 per meal. Again, these prices are a bit high, but only about 25-50% higher than their off-property equivalents. A large fountain drink costs $2.50, which is cheaper than the movie theater here locally, and the burger king by my house charges $2.20 for the equivalent.

        Merchandise can get a bit pricey, especially for the typical touristy type stuff (hats, t-shirts, etc.) But I got an excellent “Hollywood Tower Hotel” bathrobe for $50…i’ve seen similar quality bathrobes for $70. Basically, for the merchandise, they charge “boutique prices”.

        However, they do stand behind their merchandise 100% absolutely, forever, without any question. I was there at Animal Kingdom one year and it started raining, so I bought one of their rain ponchos. It was $15, I think. Pretty pricey. Other people started pulling out their dollar-store ponchos that were little more than garbage bags with holes cut for the head and arms and a hood. Lots of people tore them just putting them on. The ones you get from Disney are very thick plastic…basically a rain-coat without a lining. Well, a year or two after I got it, it was raining, I put it on and it ripped. So I just took it to one of the stands selling the ponchos, explained that it ripped, and even though it was last-years design, she swapped it out for a brand new one… no questions asked. I know people who’ve had their ponchos swapped out several times over the years…They first bought them like 10 years ago, and they’ll rip, tear, etc. from use every 2-3 years and they just take em to the first available stand they see and swap them for new ones.

        Finally, I also bought one of those mickey watches one year I was there. Cost about $75, which was pricey for a watch. Well, 3 years later one of the numbers on the face of the watch came unglued and was rattling inside the watch face, sometimes blocking the movement of the hands. Basically, it became useless since it couldn’t reliably keep time any more. I had a trip scheduled in a couple months, so I packed it away, bought a new watch in the meantime, and took it with me on my next trip. Once I took it back to the store, despite it being 3-4 years later, they offered me a full refund back…no receipt or verification of the original transaction. I told them to put it on my hotel account and they did.

        Disney is probably one of the last few companies out there that is 100% dedicated to customer satisfaction. Every reasonable request/complaint i’ve had with them has been responded to completely, swiftly and without argument or hesitation. One time, when staying at one of the hotels, the bus to one of the parks took an hour to arrive…they advertise every 20-30 minutes. So I stopped at the transportation desk in the center of the theme park buses after the bus arrived at the park and just mentioned it to the guy. He immediately made it right by giving me a couple of fast-pass vouchers for me and my friend traveling with me to let me in to any fast pass line I wanted without having to wait.

        • JonStewartMill says:

          With planning and flexibility on my part, i’ve never waited more than 45-60 minutes or so for anything.

          Great, but that’s still at least 30 minutes longer than I’d be willing to wait for any DW attraction. Then again, I’m not really a theme-park kind of guy. The best thing about my daughter turning 18 was the knowledge that I’d never have to take her to another place where fun is manufactured and then crammed down your throat.

          • thelion says:

            My thoughts, exactly. 45-60 minutes is obscene. No way am I waiting that long for a 60 second ride.

          • Outrun1986 says:

            Honestly the themeing and actors don’t do it for me, what does it for me is the ride experience. I stick with the local carnivals and county fairs where for $20 I can ride all day and get off and on rides very, very fast especially if you go on a weekday, but even weekends are not bad. Carnival rides move fast, so even if there are lines, they move fast. Most places have free admission and you can bring your own food which can save a bundle, and means I can bring non-riding friends and family with me for little or no extra cost instead of paying $$$$ for rides they won’t go on like I would at a local theme park. Though its only worth it if there is a $20 pay one price pass and ample rides, there are enough carnivals and fairs here to satisfy me.

            I usually like to ride the same things multiple times, since I find it hard to take in the attraction or ride on the first try, but after a couple times its all good. If I couldn’t re-ride quickly at Disney I would probably lose a lot of the experience so it wouldn’t be worth it for me.

        • anduin says:

          you must be really flexible cause waiting 45+ min for 1 ride would send me into a rage tirade after the first one. This is why I got to those smaller theme parks if I go at all, 5-10 min max in a line and you ride, done with the place in a couple hours.

        • HogwartsProfessor says:

          I may go next fall. Thanks for letting me know now how expensive everything is, so I can save up for my food! :O GAH!

        • LadySiren is murdering her kids with HFCS and processed cheese says:

          I’d agree with everything you just said. Our trip this June was awesome on Disney’s part, not as awesome on ours – we were packing a lot of stuff into a shorter amount of time, which is on us, not DIsney. The parks were very clean and nothing was in disrepair. The only issues we had with rides were on the days when two massive thunderstorms rolled in and some of the rides had to be shut down for safety’s sake.

          On the ticket price thing – we went through Disney’s YES program – Youth Educational Series. These are a series of amazing classes that were originally designed for home schoolers but have been opened up to the public. We went through the open enrollment period and signed up two of our boys for a class on how technology is used at the parks. They got to go into EPCOT early, ride Test Track and Mission Space, and hear how technologies are being implemented in state-of-the-art rides and entertainment experiences. The best part though? The ticket prices! OMG, they allow everyone in your party to buy discounted tickets. I kid you not, we saved thousands of dollars (probably close to $5K). It truly allowed us to have a terrific experience.

          On the food, I was pleasantly surprised. Food prices have dropped, while quality has gone up, except in a few select cases. We opted to do a character breakfast with Lilo and Stitch. The food was good but the kids’ eyes lighting up when Mickey, Lilo, Stitch, and Pluto came by to sign autographs and give hugs…well worth the steep price.

          We stayed off-site at our timeshare. It’s the one thing I’d change for the next time around. Driving to the park, then paying $14 daily, then parking, then walking…what a hassle. We’ll stay on-site next time.

          The Disney cast members were incredible. They were all astonishingly helpful, pleasant, and polite. Two went above and beyond the call of duty, and we left thank you notes for them at the Guest Services desk. The notes go into their personnel file and are, as I understand it, part of the basis for them getting raises, etc. We even got a nice note back via USPS from one of the two – she was so excited that someone had left her a thank you note that she felt compelled to say thank you.

          Yeah, Disney is wildly expensive and a major undertaking, but for us? It was completely worth the time and expense. Disney does it right.

      • xCarsonx says:

        Sounds like you had a horrible childhood if that’s all you remember.

    • jesusofcool says:

      I think the science behind this is amazing and I applaud them for doing it but I had the same reaction you did. If truly that’s how few rides the average person can get in during a full day, then they absolutely need to do this considering the prices they charge. I consider anything above 20 minutes I high wait time for almost any ride, even lower if you’ve got small children. Thankfully, I’m not a big coaster fan and tend to not even try the most popular rides on the rare occasions that I got to a theme park.

      • Firethorn says:

        I’d argue that if they’re getting enough people that the lines are so bad that they can only take those ‘nine rides’, that the ticket prices might actually be too low, leading to excessive purchasers and glut. Make the tickets 10X more, you might cut the number of people down enough that everybody might actually be able to take half the rides.

        Personally, I think it’s an arguement for expansion as well – with 40 rides, another 4 rides should drop all the lines 10% or so, getting you from 10 rides a day to 11. But it also increases value of the park, attracting more people, leading to longer lines… Hmm…

        Maybe what they need instead are ‘megarides’ – Rather than being able to take under a hundred people, able to take at least in the high hundreds. Perhaps a multi-stage rollar coaster, one that wraps around the entire park, having dozens of cars traveling on it at once?

    • Mom says:

      The last time I went to Disneyland, I only got onto 6 rides. And paid $99 for the privilege.

    • nbs2 says:

      Which is hilarious, as on our recent trip to WDW, our longest wait was 20 min for Aladdin’s Magic Carpets for the fifteenth time (can you guess who the little girl’s favorite princess is?).

      Even on the day where we left super early (arrive at 9, leave at 2), we still managed enjoy well over nine rides.

      • LadySiren is murdering her kids with HFCS and processed cheese says:

        We went last June, at the height of the vacation rush (it was a scheduling problem and was the only time our whole group could go). The lines were HORRIBLE, even with Fast Passes. Three-hour waits were the norm. We managed to skip many of these by following a tour plan and skipping parks on their peak days, thank heavens. Only once or twice did we wait in a hugely long line, and that was because it was the only way we could get that ride in during our trip.

        Kudos to Disney for trying to fix the issue.

    • majortom1981 says:

      People like to go to the parks at 12 or 1pm. IF you go for opening (wether normal opening or extra magic hours opening at 8am) then go to your hotel for lunch and come back for dinner you can get EVERY ride done. I can get pirates of the carribean, splash mountain, Big thunder, and haunted mansion done in magic kingdom in wdw as walkons before everythinbg gets crowded. then head over to space mountain wait 15 min then space ranger spin and philharmagic then go home for lunch .

      This is during the summer.

      Its all about being their for opening.

  3. Nick says:

    This is why I plan for a Disneyland trip the same time each year: The first Wednesday in December. Kids are in school, parents at work. The last three years, I’ve been able to ride whatever I wanted as much as I wanted. Lines were never more than 20 minutes, and much of the time, lines were less than 5 minutes. Last year, toward the end of the night, I was able to ride Space Mountain three times in a row with no wait whatsoever.

    • Cry Havoc says:

      Try New Year’s Day also. I went to Magic Mountain on New Year’s Day and it was a ghost town.

      • Rayon Fog says:

        Does anyone still go to Magic Mountain?

        I made the mistake of going to Disneyland last Thanksgiving because someone told me it was dead. Wow, was it crowded, but only until dusk. After that, the place emptied, and we could walk onto any ride we wanted with virtually no wait.

        • ChunkyBarf says:

          I plan on getting a season pass to MM for next year since they will have a new Green Lantern ride. MM is great so long as you understand it has no standards whatsoever. Service is non-existent. You go strictly for the rides and nothing else.

          Regarding Disneyland, I made the mistake of going there on Super Bowl Sunday a few years ago. Statistically, that is the best day to go for a lack of crowds (at least it used to be). The attendance was 125,000 by 10am for both parks. I have never been so disappointed in my life.

      • Charmander says:

        I second that, as I also have made a trip to Disneyland on New Year’s Day.

        Another good time to be at Disneyland: when it’s raining. The park clears out in seconds, and I and my family don’t have to stand in line for anything. We’re from Seattle, and a little rain doesn’t even register for us.

        • sponica says:

          Disneyland may be abandoned on New Years Day….but its world counterpart in orlando is anything but abandoned. We kept telling ourselves, the crowds will thin out after new years…yeah I don’t think they did.

          If you dont mind 100% humidity, august is a good time in orlando.

    • El_Fez says:

      I find that September is a great time to go to Disneyland. The weather is still nice, but the kids are all back in school and the lines are short! I went on Sept 7th or 8th of this year and the longest wait I had was half an hour for the Temple of the Forbidden Eye. Most of them – Pirates, Space Mountain – I just walked right in.

      • HogwartsProfessor says:

        That’s the plan me and BF have. We’re planning to hit Disney and Harry Potter World in the fall so it’s not so crowded.

  4. Mulva says:

    People need to learn to work the Fastpass system – it’s amazing that it’s still free at Disney, unlike at Universal, Six Flags, etc.

    We were just at Animal Kingdom last week, used a “four hour tour” guide from ThemeParkInsider.com as a basis for our morning, then enjoyed the rest of the park at our leisure until closing.

    • humphrmi says:

      Yeah, those books are amazing. I use the “other” book (forget the name now) and the tour plans they give you, while seemingly strange in the way they zig-zag you around the park, allow you to actually take more rides at a more leisurely pace and then enjoy the parks for things like impromptu character meetings, parades, fireworks, etc. And the book tours tell you exactly when to go retrieve your fastpasses for use later in the tour, so you get them before they run out.

      • Doubts42 says:

        +1 I was looking for someone else to comment on this.,
        My wife used one of those to plan our trip. i was dead set against it for 2 reasons.
        1. I like to be spontaneous and not locked into a plan.
        2. I didn’t want to walk an inefficient spiderweb pattern all over the park.
        After the first day I had to apologize. We never waited more than 10 min in any line, got to do everything we wanted to do, and as an added bonus almost every short line we were in let me view a long line somewhere near by where the other poor schmucks were waiting >45min

  5. lifeat24fps says:

    Can anyone whose been to both Disneyland and Disney World give me a comparision? Only been to the park in Anaheim and had time for almost everything I wanted to do using the Fastpass system.

    • Kate says:

      The two parks are partially clones. World has a huge section that is different and much more interesting. A nice section of shops/restaurants that are for different countries.

      So given a choice – go to Disney World. Plus, you don’t have to deal with LA traffic.

    • Buckus says:

      Disney World encompasses several theme parks, of which the Magic Kingdom is similar to DisneyLand. If you have the time, and means, I suggest Disney World, there’s much more to do. Plan for a week or longer, as you can spend one day in each theme park.

    • AnthonyC says:

      I’ve been to both multiple times, most recently Disneyland this summer. The Magic Kingdom is similar to Disneyland. MGM (now “Hollywood Studios” I think) is similar to California Adventure. In addition, Disneyworld has many other parks- epcot (a few rides, lots of shopping and food, sorted by country), animal kingdom (zoo/safari with rides), and blizzard beach and typhoon lagoon (water parks). Both parks have a Downtown Disney shopping district, but Disneyworld also has the Boardwalk, a wide variety of hotels and resorts with associated amenities, and relative proximity to the Universal Studios parks.

      Both are wonderful, but there is really no comparison. Disneyland can be seen in two days, but it takes at least a full week to explore all of disneyworld. Though, it may be difficult to do that much disney all in one trip

  6. target_veteran says:

    Oh, Cory Doctorow…
    http://craphound.com/down/

  7. Ominous Gamer says:

    i didn’t read the article, but my grandfather used to work under Disney. The tunnels have always been there…

    • fuceefacee says:

      The park is the second floor of the Disney World structure. The ground floor is where the tunnels you speak of are located. I worked at DW in 1974 (Main Street Camera) and am still awed by the parks construction.

      After six months I was able to get a painters union apprenticeship. There I got to work on Pirates of the Caribbean and Space Mountain. Lots of interesting construction. But I always found the park to be too crowded most of the time. Hopefully this new system will help with controlling the crowds.

  8. FatLynn says:

    My last visit to a theme park was with someone who had worked there for years, and knew the hourly throughput of every ride, and which order we should do them. We made it on six roller coasters in the first two hours the park was open, and I have since wondered why you can’t find all of this info on the internet.

    • humphrmi says:

      It is on the internet, although usually the internet sites support books which authors sell on the subject. So in other words, buy the book – get free access to the author’s website with up-to-the-minute tips. There are also free sites allears.net. Just google “{favorite-theme-park-name} touring plans”.

  9. B says:

    Roller Coaster Tycoon?

  10. Jedana says:

    DL, it is much easier to go park-to-park, since the front entrances are within walking distance. At WDW, you need to take your car, a bus/monorail/boat or take a long long walk. Lots of empty space between the parks (beautiful landscaping, though).

    California Adventure had the better kids park (Bug’s Life) and the rope bridge area is awesome! WDW does not have an Indiana Jones ride, it does have a show though. More shows there. More hotels at WDW, but the best hotel we have stayed at (Disney-fied) was the DL Hotel. Our son got to play with Goofy for almost an hour, all by himself, because we arrived right after checkout and before checkin, when most people were out of the park (we were waiting to check in, but in an out-of-the-way area on the ground floor.). Goofy taught our son how to “magically” open the electronic doors and played cars with him. Best trip ever!

    They are both very nice. If you are going for a day or two, DL is your best bet. If you are local or able to go for 4+ days, go WDW. Especially if you can not bring the kids and hit Epcot–drink around the world!

  11. Warren - aka The Piddler on the Roof says:

    “Disney has developed a new subterranean nerve center to combat lines as they happen.”

    Welcome to the Umbrella Corporation…

  12. Floobtronics says:

    This makes a ton of sense now, in retrospect. We went to Orlando back in early November. I’m sure they were testing this strategy out at Hollywood Studios, using a rolling stage singing/dancing show to lure people to a less crowded area of the park. Extremely effective too.

    That all said, we found that going in early November was the best of all worlds. We planned the trip to coincide with the NJEA Teacher’s Convention, so the kids only missed a couple of days of school. Lines were extremely short everywhere we went. For example, my son & I went on Space Mountain – walked into the ride, and didn’t stop walking until we got to the point at which you get put in a car and take off. Only 1 set of people ahead of us. Total wait time was less than 1 minute. Same went on most other rides throughout the day. We only waited for any length of time for the Dumbo ride. Fantastic weather too (high 60s – low 70s most days). Funny side note – you can really tell who the natives are. They’re the ones who had on hats and gloves for the 50 degree early morning weather, while us NJ folks had on shorts & sweatshirts, which came off after it warmed up a bit.

    Other parks are doing this as well. We saw this at Universal, in the Harry Potter area. They brought out a bunch more cars for the dragon roller coaster. Slashed the wait time.

  13. Anto103 says:

    I always assumed that they had a underground lair like in Itchy and Scratchy Land. Where they would drag you and beat you if you weren’t acting Disney enough.

  14. PsiCop says:

    And here, I thought keeping as many people in lines … and doing nothing that costs the park any money … was the whole idea of running an amusement park. I can see the folks who run them sitting there, snickering at all the suckers who pay through the nose for the privilege of standing in lines for hours at a time.

  15. Keep talking...I'm listening says:

    I think this is an awesome idea, but I have an additional suggestion — why not make standing in line part of an attraction? In other words, why can’t there be something fun to do while you’re standing in line? Like a sideshow, an audience participation game or something?

    • macnbc says:

      They actually say in the article that they’ve implemented that stuff. Several of their newer headliner rides (and some of the older ones that have been rehabbed recently) have things like quick 90-second themed video games and stuff you can do along the way.

    • Etoiles says:

      In about 2/3 of everything at WDW, there is. The “queue experience” is a big part of their park design. You can particularly see it in the newer attractions vs the oldest ones.

    • HogwartsProfessor says:

      I think the Hogwarts thing at Harry Potter World does that. My skating coach went and she said the line goes through it and there is plenty to see while you are waiting.

  16. meg99 says:

    I was an intern there about 15 years ago, worked in epcot. October is probably the best month to visit, you can get on rides with very little and hardly any wait times. We had free admission for four months, and learned the underground tunnels like a city person learns the subway. Really amazing place, but I cannot imagine how much it would cost for a family of four to stay there, ride the rides and eat! If you are a college kid with a semester to spare, i highly recommend the Disney world college program :)

  17. dwb says:

    Disney parks are in a league of their own, so I try not to judge other parks by their standards because that only leads to disappointment. Six Flags, on the other hand, is so messed up I can’t help but get a FU vibe from them while I’m there. It’s the details – like concern for wait times – that makes the difference.

    • Outrun1986 says:

      I don’t think I could bring myself to go to a Six Flags park after some of the things I heard, I would be better off saving up for a big trip to a GOOD park if that is what I so desired even if it cost more money than one day at the local Six Flags. They obviously don’t take the business seriously and they could care less about the customer, the customer is someone who is just expected to come. They are just very customer-unfriendly, and they really do not care.

      Like most people I have to deal with the insane hordes of rude people here, when you go to a Six Flags park that insane horde gets 1000 times worse. I swear theme park mentality does something to people that makes them go crazy (this doesn’t seem to happen at carnivals or county fairs which is kind of odd). Referencing another thread, I think I would rather work in a call center for a week then have to spend an entire day at a Six Flags park.

  18. MedicallyNeedy says:

    When Governor Christie gets stuck in a turnstile…

  19. macnbc says:

    I make my own theme park rides at home.

    Seriously though, if you plan ahead, do your research, have a strategy, you can get waaaay more than 9 rides in a day at a Disney park. I’ve been to Disney World twice in the past 10 years, one of which was during the busiest week of the year for them (this one.. week between Christmas and New Years), and I’ve never waited longer than 15 minutes for a ride.

    The trick is to learn in advance which ways the crowds tend to flow, and go the other way. There’s plenty of great resources online that tell you that too.

    Also I think the 40+ ride count sounds a bit inflated. They might be counting random carnival games in Fantasyland as “rides”. The average Disney park has about 4-8 “headliners” (like Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, Mission Space, etc.) and a bunch of other smaller ones.

  20. Erika'sPowerMinute says:

    Worst vacation planning fail ever in the history of the world:

    Taking three kids, aged 5, 3 and 1, to Tokyo Disneyland during the Japanese schools’ spring break.

    I think we were there all day and managed maybe 5 rides, including the crappy ones that we went on out of desperation because the lines were less than an hour.

    So many other fun things we could have been doing that day; the poor kids were miserable : (

  21. gman863 says:

    If we’re lucky maybe Wak-Mart will adopt a similar strategy.

    Checkout lines too slow? Open more registers and deploy a Tyrone (“Mr. Rollback”) actor to distract customers. Garden Center overflowing but Automotive Department bare? Send out a mini-parade to lure guests over.

  22. gman863 says:

    Should have typed Wal-Mart. “Wak-Mart” was a Freudian typo based on my last few times shopping there.

  23. stevied says:

    Why don’t they publish a timing/tour guide.

    Ride X departs on the hour starting at 8:00..

    Ride Y departs every 15 minutes starting at 7:30.

    Show Z is 15 minutes long and starts at the top and bottom of the hour.

    • majortom1981 says:

      There are those guides all over the place. in your local library, online everywhere.

      Heck go to any of the wdw and wdl fan sites and you can get the info for free.

      Generally the rule of thumb is to get to the parks for opening and start at the back of the parks.

  24. Cheap Sniveler: Sponsored by JustAnswer.comâ„¢ says:

    As “Daddy” I realize I will probably be forced (against my will) to visit a Disney park at some point, and pay way too much to stand in line for hours.

    Myself, I prefer the smaller regional amusement parks, especially the older parks. There’s nothing like an old wooden coaster to shake you up. Check out the 1920 Jack Rabbit at Seabreeze, Rochester, NY, and the 1921 coaster at Lagoon, Farmington. Utah. Cedar Point in Ohio offers 17 coasters in one park – and you CAN ride them all in one day. These parks often have discount tickets available from employers and local businesses, and companies often have summer picnics there for their employees for free or very cheap.

    My favorite tip for seasonal parks is this: One week before their “official” opening, many parks offer a greatly reduced pay one price admission. Though all of the rides may not be open (the water park is NEVER open!) there is almost NOBODY there. No lines, no waiting: ride till you puke.

    • pinkbunnyslippers says:

      I’ve never been to Seabreeze…I always thought of it as the poor man’s Darien Lake. Is it really that cool?

      • Cheap Sniveler: Sponsored by JustAnswer.comâ„¢ says:

        It was even better before the old carousel burned to the ground, it was built in 1915, hand carved, and had one of only 24 Wurlitzer 165 band organs produced. Only 10 of those organs remain now.

        Sea Breeze is the twelfth-oldest operating amusement park in the world (fourth-oldest in the United States). Its most celebrated ride is the Jack Rabbit, an “out and back” roller coaster. It’s the fourth-oldest operating roller coaster in the world (opened 1920). It’s the oldest coaster in the USA, if you don’t count “Leap the Dips” (1902) at Lakemont Park, Pennsylvania. It’s not really a coaster as we know it, only 41 ft tall, it’s a series of gentle hills at an average 10 MPH.

        I like Darien Lakes, too. I was one of the first to ride the Viper in the early 80′s.

    • Thorzdad says:

      While it’s true you can ride almost all of the major coasters at Cedar Point in one day, to do so requires you get there at opening, stand in insanely long lines and then, once you’ve done the ride, immediately sprint to the line for the next ride. A day at CP is anything but relaxing or fun (except for the brief moments you are actually riding a coaster.) If there was a park that seriously needs a FastPass-type system, it’s CP. The same goes for their sister park, King’s Island.

      • Cheap Sniveler: Sponsored by JustAnswer.comâ„¢ says:

        You’re going to have to deal with that at any large park. For the sheer number of coasters in one park, CP is awesome.

  25. pinkbunnyslippers says:

    You mean they don’t already have this? I guess I shouldn’t take everything I ever thought about theme parks from Beverly Hills Cop 3.

  26. Evil_Steve says:

    Plus they can use the technology to keep gift store shelves stocked with Bort novelty license plates.

  27. majortom1981 says:

    People like to go to the parks at 12 or 1pm. IF you go for opening (wether normal opening or extra magic hours opening at 8am) then go to your hotel for lunch and come back for dinner you can get EVERY ride done. I can get pirates of the carribean, splash mountain, Big thunder, and haunted mansion done in magic kingdom in wdw as walkons before everythinbg gets crowded. then head over to space mountain wait 15 min then space ranger spin and philharmagic then go home for lunch .

    This is during the summer.

    Its all about being their for opening.

  28. kurtisnelson says:

    Massive? The DOCC holds about 6 people and it is very cramped. We got new carpet right before thanksgiving and they had to throw everybody out into a spare room.

  29. Maz says:

    The manager of this operational nerve center will have had 5 years of Roller Coaster Tycoon experience.

  30. XTC46 says:

    As somone who just visted Disney World, I find it to be an amazing feat to run the place as efficient as they do. I am AMAZED at how well the place was.

    I rode every single ride I wanted to on every day that I was there. I rode Space Mountain 4 times on Friday, I also rode splash mountain, thunder mountain, etc I went and saw the presidents hall exhibit becasue I had free time. I rode the tomorrow land speedway ride becasue it was only a 10 minute wait. The key is timing and properly using the fastpass system. We were there for 5 days, and I had that system down. I had maps of each park, knew which rides I wanted to ride, and hit them all in the most efficent manner I could. It worked out perfectly.

    Best expereince of my life. I applaud disney and how they manage to run a place that size the way they do.