Walmart: No More Extra Pay For Working Sundays

Mom-and-pop megachain Walmart currently pays its staffers $1 extra per hour when they work on a Sunday. But it looks like that policy is about to come to an end for some staffers as the store cuts costs.

According to Bloomberg, anyone hired after Jan. 1 will no longer be eligible to earn the extra buck for Sunday service. The current staff of around 1.4 million employees will still be able to earn the extra dollar, but how long do you think it will be until those grandfathered employees are no longer on the schedule for Sunday?

“It’s sad — people who work on Sunday need that extra dollar,” one Walmart employee tells Bloomberg.

Good news for workers at the 59 Walmarts in Massachusetts and Rhode Island: Your extra cash for working Sundays won’t be taken away because it’s mandated by employment laws which require Walmart to pay staffers 1.5 times the hourly rate for working on Sunday.

Wal-Mart Plans to End Extra Pay in U.S. for Sunday Shifts [Bloomberg]

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  1. Murph1908 says:

    I’ll let the next commenter point it out.

    • Raekwon says:

      It took 3 more commenters until someone posted about it. At least if it’s what I think you noticed. It was the first thing that caught my eye and my grammar is horrid.

    • vmxeo says:

      I’m having a hard time reading that second paragraph. The opening sentence is written out so poorly its pretty much ineligible.

    • techstar25 says:

      That second paragraph is illegible.

    • UnicornMaster says:

      Ironically 2 out of 3 commenters used “illegible” and “ineligible” instead of “incomprehensible” making their own comments incomprehensible.

      • Southern says:

        Yes, I believe it should read, “anyone hired after Jan. 1 will no longer be *eligible* to earn the extra buck for Sunday service.”

  2. Bsamm09 says:

    “Good news for workers at the 59 Walmarts in Massachusetts and Rhode Island: Your extra cash for working Sundays won’t be taken away because it’s mandated by employment laws which require Walmart to pay staffers 1.5 times the hourly rate for working on Sunday.”

    Does this law only target Wal-mart? Why should somebody get paid more for working on Sunday? Why not Tuesday?

    • obits3 says:

      Why Wal-mart?

      Because it’s a blue law! *rimshot*

    • Daggertrout says:

      Probably the same reasons it’s illegal for me to buy underwear on Sunday mornings.

    • KoopaTroopa says:

      I think it’s because of the old Blue Laws on the books in Mass. Every employer must pay employees 1.5x the hourly rate on Sundays….Walmart, Target, Bestbuy…whoever. That’s why you see a lot of people in Mass/RI willing to work Sundays usually.

      • HannahK says:

        This isn’t true across the board. My first job was at a restaurant (in MA), so even though the job it was barely any different from my friends who worked at supermarkets, they got time and a half and I didn’t. I find it difficult to get worked up about wal-mart taking away a benefit that never made any sense to me to begin with. It’s an easy way for managers to reward their favorites, which is fine, but not sacred enough that I would vote to preserve a strange, outdated custom.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      I guess the extra pay was a holdover from when stores would open from Monday to Saturday and be closed on Sunday. Now that stores are routinely open on Sunday, why pay your workers more when the occasion isn’t unusual? It’s not like working holidays, when some retailers pay time and a half.

    • Hooray4Zoidberg says:

      I grew up MA and honestly never realized this wasn’t the case everywhere. I always heard time and a half on Sundays, I guess I assumed it was federal like minimum wage.

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      Labor unions have similar stipulations. Safeway employees get paid more on Sunday.

    • RandomHookup says:

      That’s why you’ll find the most senior cashiers working on Sunday mornings. They are getting better pay at a slower time (until about noon at most grocery stores).

      • regis-s says:

        I guess that practice will be coming to an end, at Walmart at least. If they can pay junior employees less to work on Sundays that’s who they’re going to schedule.

    • Charmander says:

      Long ago, Sunday typically was a day where people went to church and did church-related activities. For many religious people it was a day of rest, and indeed most stores were not even open on Sunday.

      I am old enough to remember when nothing – no grocery stores, no department stores, etc. were open on Sundays. Only 7-11. Now that our society is pretty much 24/7, it seems really odd to me that’s how it was then.

      The extra $ was compensation for having to come in on a day you wouldn’t normally work. Sort of like working on a holiday.

    • peebozi says:

      If you don’t like it then simply lobby the state’s elected officials to change it. Or simply run for office on that campaign promise.

      now go back to your job at the US chamber of commerce, dick.

  3. ellemdee says:

    I’m kind of suprised they paid more for Sunday work. I’ve never worked anywhere that paid more for work on Sundays – I thought that was only a union thing. I’ve worked at a few stores, an office, and a few professional jobs. In fact, I get paid *less* per hour for overtime, so I’d be happy with straight time.

    • qwickone says:

      What?? Less? I have never heard of that! How much less is it? A lot?

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        I’m assuming he’s salaried. I’m in the same boat, when I work nights or weekends, my overall hourly rate decreases for that pay period.

        • ellemdee says:

          Yeah, they call us “salaried with paid overtime”. We get paid based on the number of hours we work & have to complete time logs, but are still technically categorized as salaried. In the past they used to make employees work their first few hours of OT for free before they would get paid at all, so I guess this is better, at least. We get straight time, but it’s capped and the cap is less than most of the engineers make ($25/hr). Technicians are paid at the normal time-and-a-half rate for OT, but engineers are not.

    • Bativac says:

      I am in the same boat – our overtime pay is around half what our normal hourly rate is. And the company acts like they’re doing us a favor!

      • mythago says:

        You might want to talk to a wage and hour lawyer to find out if you’re getting ripped off.

        • Bativac says:

          No, we checked with the state. Technically we’re salaried employees (though we complete timecards and the hourly overtime pay is based on 1/2 whatever our hourly pay is) so we’re exempt from overtime laws.

          Which the company never hesitates to remind us of. “We don’t HAVE to pay you anything…” Thanks guys. Way to get that extra work out of us at the end of a 12 hour day.

    • Bsamm09 says:

      I get salary and “comp” time. Every hour over 40 goes into a “pot”. At the end of the year I get paid based on what my hourly wage would be.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        I wish we had something like that. We do have informal comp time but the problem is, if you’re putting in a lot of extra work, it’s typically for a project that’s over budget or for something that’s not billable.

        • Bsamm09 says:

          It’s pretty good. I am a tax accountant so during peak times i work upwards of 90hrs/week. But during May/June/July I work 30-35 and use comp time to take fridays off.

          • MrEvil says:

            IT’s lulls aren’t so regular as they are with accounting professionals (my mom’s been in tax prep and book-keeping for years now). But we kinda get in the same boat. There are times where we’re busier than a one-legged man at an ass-kicking contest. Other times we sit in our offices like the Maytag man.

    • Rena says:

      I don’t think they pay extra on Sundays here. Instead you’re just not allowed to take a Sunday off, period.

  4. msbask says:

    I didn’t realize that anyone still got paid more to work on Sunday. Both my kids have worked at multiple jobs that require Sunday work and don’t pay more (McDonald’s, a stationary store, CVS).

  5. ParingKnife ("That's a kniwfe.") says:

    “According to Bloomberg, anyone hired after Jan. 1 will no longer be illegible to earn the extra buck for Sunday service.”

    Damned readable employees.

  6. FireJayPa says:

    Well they have to keep the prices low somehow. And I guess this is the best way to do it, by removing this incentive to new employees. Hourly employees are also rotated on the schedule by management and can only really “request” certain shifts. If these employees no longer find themselves working on a Sunday they can enjoy their time off.

    Let’s suppose for a moment that you’re some cart pusher or cashier or greeter at Walmart. Let’s then say for a moment that you work every other Sunday. That’s 26 Sundays out of the year and you work 8 hour shifts. That’s an extra $208 a year before taxes.

    If that extra $16 a month is life/death then you have far bigger problems. Perhaps a few less lotto tickets would fix things.

    • ParingKnife ("That's a kniwfe.") says:

      Ah yes, poor people are stupid and no one struggles. Next you’ll be telling me you can support your family on one full-time job at minimum wage.

      • qwickone says:

        I dont think Fire was saying that at all. If so little money makes so much of a difference for you, then there are far greater challenges than losing those few dollars. And poor people DO overwhelmingly play the lottery, which is not a good investment, so that’s not bad advice. Do you just need something to be angry about?

        • c!tizen says:

          Your comment may have held some water… until he opened his mouth again.

          “More like I wouldn’t be that selfish/stupid to try to raise a family on one full-time job at minimum wage. If you can’t afford a family don’t have one. Unless you’re expecting to suck off the teet of big government and use things like food stamps to get by.”

          it’s not a misunderstanding, it’s trolling.

      • FireJayPa says:

        “Ah yes, poor people are stupid and no one struggles. Next you’ll be telling me you can support your family on one full-time job at minimum wage.”

        More like I wouldn’t be that selfish/stupid to try to raise a family on one full-time job at minimum wage. If you can’t afford a family don’t have one. Unless you’re expecting to suck off the teet of big government and use things like food stamps to get by.

        • pecan 3.14159265 says:

          If you can’t afford a family don’t have one.

          Ah, but if everyone was blessed with a time machine. You apparently don’t grasp that life circumstances can change on a dime, and that there are a lot of people struggling – people who were previously making a decent wage are now wrangling carts at Wal-Mart. They can’t just stop feeding the kids they had years ago, when life might have been a lot easier. Shame on them for not considering ahead of time that they might be making a third of their previous salary, run out of unemployment benefits, be in foreclosure, get sick, or have other maladies that would suck their wallets dry. At least they have people like you to remind them of how irresponsible they’ve been.

          • ParingKnife ("That's a kniwfe.") says:

            Not to mention that even when times are good, it’s not like there are enough living wage jobs to go around to account for the vast population in this country. Maybe we should accept that the world needs Wal-Mart greeters and stop acting like they’re scum of the fucking earth.

          • not-gonna-tell-ya says:

            Red Herring alert!!!!

            • pecan 3.14159265 says:

              How is my comment a red herring? FireJayPa said, “More like I wouldn’t be that selfish/stupid to try to raise a family on one full-time job at minimum wage. If you can’t afford a family don’t have one.” I am merely addressing his failure to understand that life circumstances are fluid. He also made a generalization that poor(er) people all play the lotto, and that they need the extra money because they play the lotto too much.

              • FireJayPa says:

                Try again, you said “He also made a generalization that poor(er) people all play the lotto, and that they need the extra money because they play the lotto too much. “

                More like the unwashed masses play the lotto and a large sample set of those people are of poor social-economic status because they have jobs at Walmart pushing carts or asking for my receipts.

        • Kate says:

          So those people who both parents had 50 thou or above jobs that both got laid off and can’t find a new job that pays decent, should have known better? You got a crystal ball or something?

    • katarzyna says:

      Yeah, for some people, it can be. Some people are really that close (or over) the edge.

    • Fett101 says:

      If they want to provide incentives to employees they should pay extra for working Saturdays. That’s the day everyone wants off.

    • SG-Cleve says:

      Yes, they have to keep prices low somehow, but they haven’t yet figured out how to outsource this work to China.

  7. VOIDMunashii says:

    While I am no fan of the mart of walls, I did not know this even happened. I never got paid extra for working Sundays when I was in retail, and not being a sports fan I got stuck working a lot of them.

    • maubs says:

      There’s nothing worse than having to work on SuperBowl Sunday. Working Easter Sunday with no extra pay was just about as bad.

      • TooManyHobbies says:

        If I were still in retail, and Superbowl Sunday meant that the sports fans stayed home, I’d be happy to work it. As it is, I have to be careful not to go through a room in my house where someone isn’t watching the stupid thing. Not usually a problem since it’s usually just my wife, and she finds a room and stays there.

      • Portlandia says:

        I LOVE shopping on Superbowl sunday…Nobody is out and it’s usualy a very quiet day!!

      • VOIDMunashii says:

        Easter Sunday we did actually get holiday pay for, but not every Sunday.
        Superbowl Sundays were usually pretty quiet, but I had to work every Sunday during the season because all of the other managers were home watching football.

  8. TooManyHobbies says:

    “will no longer be illegible” huh? That’s too bad.

  9. The cake is a lie! says:

    Why do people who work on Sunday need that extra dollar more than people who work on Monday? Hell, if you want me to come in on Monday then you better be prepared to pay me more. Then again, that would just mean you are paying more for the same half-hearted hungover work that I usually do on Monday, so maybe not such a great plan. Still, I don’t see why working on Sunday means you should get paid more. I’m more in favor of a night differential for people who start their shift after 5:00 PM or who work more than 50% of their shift after that time. This extra money because of the day of the week makes no sense.

    That being said, I enjoyed my extra dollar an hour I got for working graveyards at WalMart in 1994 as a night stocker (not stalker). I didn’t understand it, but I wasn’t going to argue if they wanted to pay me more for working it.

    • badtypo says:

      I’m guessing because it’s a less desirable shift, made more appealing by the prospect of extra money. Same goes for graveyard, I suppose.

      • The cake is a lie! says:

        What is less desirable about working on Sunday? If you have a shift on Sunday, then that means you are getting a day off during the week where Banks and everything else is actually open. Hell, I’d love to trade my Friday for a Sunday so I could still have a weekend and actually be able to get more done.

  10. SG-Cleve says:

    Massachusetts and Rhode Island require employers to pay 1.5 times hourly rate for working on Sunday?

    Sounds unconstitutional to me, something about government establishment of religion…

    BTW, does Wal Mart pay Jewish employees an extra dollar an hour to work on Saturdays?

    • mandarynn says:

      I enjoyed the time and a half here in MA when I worked at CVS during high school for minimum wage :)

    • RandomHookup says:

      It was previously a day designated for rest (until Mass. law changed). Since it’s the same for everyone and no reference is made to the religion of the employee, why should it matter? There are some similar requirements concerning holidays.

    • peebozi says:

      2 Words: Faith Based Initiatives.

      The religious sheep who believe in ghosts, fairy tales and alien beings own this country.

      Fortunately, I believe in the god of all gods, Zeus.

      Religion is a function of time & place.

  11. backinpgh says:

    They USED to pay employees time and a half (or maybe even double time) for Sundays! This was before 1991 or something like that. I worked at Sam’s Club for a while, and I remember reading this. It’s really a shame. They keep giving people more and more reasons to hate them.

  12. backinpgh says:

    They USED to pay employees time and a half (or maybe even double time) for Sundays! This was before 1991 or something like that. I worked at Sam’s Club for a while, and I remember reading this. It’s really a shame. They keep giving people more and more reasons to hate them.

  13. backinpgh says:

    They USED to pay employees time and a half (or maybe even double time) for Sundays! This was before 1991 or something like that. I worked at Sam’s Club for a while, and I remember reading this. It’s really a shame. They keep giving people more and more reasons to hate them.

  14. d0x360 says:

    Every state needs to have the rule that MA has. Time and a half on Sundays no matter what!

    • Griking says:

      That would be awesome.

      Personally I agree with Massachusetts and the day of rest philosophy. I don’t really see a need for most stores to be open on Sundays. If you own a small independently owned store and staff it yourself then fine, do whatever you want, but large chains that force their employees to work on Sundays and even worse, holidays need to be slapped around a bit.

  15. Back to waiting, but I did get a cute dragon ear cuff says:

    Another instance of the Church/State line being crossed. This is to compensate people who are required to work on the Lord’s day of rest. Never mind that my day of rest ran from Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday.

    Back when I worked at a regional grocery store chain in the late 70′s, Maryland had laws on the books that no more than 6 people could work at a business on Sundays and our wonderful union had negotiated double time pay for all Sunday work.

    Nowadays in Maryland, Sunday is MOSTLY just another day. Well, except my county restricting hard alcohol sales. I guess “Christians” feel that it is OK to buy beer or wine on The Lord’s Day, but not to have a margarita.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      Um, I thought this was all because for much of the 20th century, it was cultural practice for stores to not be open on Sunday. Of course there might be a “Christian” influence on that, but as far as a labor standard, it was all because stores didn’t open on Sundays. Once they started to open on Sundays, their workers had to work more and thus, the extra compensation. Now in modern times, everyone is open Sunday so extra pay for Sunday work seems antiquated.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        I always assumed it was for religious reasons.

        When I was a kid, the few stores that were actually open on Sunday had very strict rules about what you could buy. This included not being allowed to sell toys or “work implements” on Sunday.

      • Back to waiting, but I did get a cute dragon ear cuff says:

        And the reason for being closed on Sunday, as opposed to Tuesday was????

        Stores and businesses were closed on Sunday because it is the Christian day of prayer rest. Not because it is the first day of the week on the calendar.

        • Back to waiting, but I did get a cute dragon ear cuff says:

          Oopps, my kingdom for an edit button.

          make that prayer AND rest

        • Dyermaker says:

          Would you like to explain the cultural significance of barber shops being closed on a Monday? Must be a religious thing too, right?

    • shepd says:

      Agreed. By day is stupid (in fact, if anything, it encourages employees to work that day). Rather, it should be above # hours worked per week or above # days worked per week. That’d make more sense, since it encourages employers to give employees a rest (which, I assume, is the overall intent here).

      • Back to waiting, but I did get a cute dragon ear cuff says:

        Yes, by day is stupid. Back then DC was a BIG football town and no one wanted to work during a Redskins game. Of course, no one shopped during the game either. So with the overly strong union combined with the blue laws and no one shopping, I was paid double time to work when no one wanted to shop and no one else wanted to work.

        Back then, that meant I was paid over $20 an hour as a college kid in the late 70′s for the Sundays I worked just to be a clerk in a grocery store. According to inflation calculators, that is equal to over $50 an hour today. Since I worked almost every Sunday, I got out of being a big football fan and to this day barely even watch parts of the Super Bowl, and honestly, that is mostly for the commercials.

  16. Portlandia says:

    “Good news for workers at the 59 Walmarts in Massachusetts and Rhode Island: Your extra cash for working Sundays won’t be taken away because it’s mandated by employment laws which require Walmart to pay staffers 1.5 times the hourly rate for working on Sunday.”

    So much for seperation of church and state when Blue Laws like this stay on the books.

  17. slim150 says:

    who the hell “needs” $8 dollars

    • dulcinea47 says:

      People who make very little money. If you get paid every other week, that’s $16. Okay ten bucks after taxes. And that’s half a weeks grocery budget if you’re poor.

      • FireJayPa says:

        Or 10 scratch off tickets

        Or 2 packs of lucky strikes

        • Kate says:

          Or two pepperoni pizzas at Little Ceasars

        • palfas says:

          Holy crap. Yes, they’re all horrible people that are just wasting their hard earned money. Lets just neuter them all so they can’t reproduce. That way we won’t have to worry about this unimportant crap and get back to our very important lives revolving around TV and fancy cars.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      I make a decent wage, and I’d love an extra $8! That goes a long way in fresh produce.

    • u1itn0w2day says:

      Now it’s a 1$ an hour on SunDAY. Before you know it they’ll loose a dollar an HOUR period. They’re trying to make this seem inconsequential as they will when they start cutting other pay.

  18. mbz32190 says:

    Wegmans pays $1 extra on Sundays still (or time and a half for Full Timers)
    And it is well deserved for those familiar with the crowds on Sunday afternoons. I would definitely cut back my Sunday availability if they ever change it.

  19. u1itn0w2day says:

    They just cut this payout now? I’m surprised they hadn’t done it years ago. I don’t agree with the move but I know people in retail that don’t get a premium for Sundays.

    Walmart will probably say how lucky they are just to have job blah blah blah

  20. XianZhuXuande says:

    Psh. Why encourage them with rewards when you can get them to work those Sundays by using threats and fear instead? /Walmart

  21. Armand1880 says:

    I don’t really understand the idea of getting paid more to work on weekends. Not that I’m complaining, my wife is a nurse and makes $4.00 more an hour on the weekends. I just never understood it, especially in this economy when filling weekend positions isn’t that hard.

    • u1itn0w2day says:

      It has it’s roots in the blue laws which were there to help ensure someone could use Sunday as a day of worship and rest. In order to open on a Sunday many places required extra pay or even time and a half to discourage the businesses from opening and encourage the employees to work if needed. Some business probably even gave extra for Sunday on their own early on-I’m talking the 70s-ish. At this point in society you have multiple generations that just think of Sunday as just another day which includes Walmart management.

  22. Cicadymn says:

    OH NO! It’s not like they can just go get a different job! They’re stuck there for life!

    Oh wait…

  23. u1itn0w2day says:

    I can see a senior employee getting more than a new hire after Jan 1 but is it legal to have people in the same job getting paid differently. In other words not to discriminate is HOW rather how much an employee is paid a factor?

    • Bsamm09 says:

      Yup. It’s called negotiation. If you have skills, either in the job or persuasion, you can get paid more. I think employers always low-ball you. Its up to you to ask for more. Very dependent on the job though.

      • u1itn0w2day says:

        I think this is why a lot of companies don’t like you talking about your pay with others. They want you to depend on the lowballed numbers HR gives you in retail especially.

  24. jaredwilliams says:

    Yeah and that 1.5 times the hourly rate on sunday in mass kind of just gets washed away by the 5% income tax of your total paycheck taken by the state. Mass SUCKS

  25. Mcshonky says:

    I bet wal-f@rt prides itself as being a Christian company

  26. beer4me says:

    wow, I cant believe they didnt get rid of this years ago. I never understood why people complain how badly Wal-Mart treats their employees. I worked there for a year or two back in the day, and it was by far the highest paying job that I could find.

  27. Duckula22 says:

    I’ve got an idea, fire the shareholders and fire corporate management, the ones who remain can keep the individual stores going using the same procedures manual indefinitely.

  28. INsano says:

    Yea, and on the eighth day God spaketh and said unto himself, “Profit FTW!”

  29. gman863 says:

    This just in…

    Bad news for customers of the 59 Wal-Mart stores in MA and RI: Wal-Mart will jack up prices on a few items at these locations to make up the difference.

  30. jcargill says:

    “According to Bloomberg, anyone hired after Jan. 1 will no longer be illegible to earn the extra buck for Sunday service.”

    Nope, that won’t inspire managers to mass-fire experienced workers in order to hire cheaper ones in Jan. That won’t happen at all. At any Walmart.

  31. conformco says:

    Yeah, I used to get time and half when I worked there. During college I cut back to only working on Sundays because that was enough to pay rent. Wal-Mart used to be a great gig. A lot of the old timers I had worked with there were going to retire with close to a million dollars because of the generous pay and profit sharing. But I ran into a previous manager when I went home for the holidays a few years ago and he said everything had changed. They introduced wage caps, the profit-sharing structure changed, and yes – they did start preventing grandfathered employees from working on Sundays.

    It’s a shame because it used to be a great place to work, especially in a poor town. They made money hand over fist even with their generosity, but then they got even more greedy.

  32. user452 says:

    This isn’t surprising.

    Walmart has always been very anti-rights for workers.
    Their training sessions largely consist of anti-union propaganda videos.

    Walmart employees are automatically fired if they attempt to exercise their rights, or join a union.

  33. Janice says:

    Again this is no surprise. Cutting costs only hits the associates low on the ladder. Many department manager positions have already been cut and one person is required to take care of 4 departments at a time, even if they don’t have any clue about the department they are ‘forced’ to take. One regular employee is now required to do 10 peoples jobs with no exceptions. For example: I was required to do the following- all aspects of jewelry department including manager duties as we had no one else with any knowledge of what to do, also, shoes, all areas of soft lines zoning, cashier up front when needed, customer service when needed, accessories, sometimes fitting room, and when there was only two or three associates scheduled for all these functions, we had to take our lunches at least one hour late as long as it didn’t fall into the 6 hour rule.