Teens Busted For Selling Cupcakes Without A License

In news that’s reminiscent of the Oregon Lemonade Stand Scandal of 2010, two 13-year-olds in New York state had their baked goods business shut down by police for operating without a license.

The two teens had been selling cupcakes, cookies, brownies and other things that are making me really, really hungry right now, for $1 each in a park in Chappaqua, NY, when a local politician ratted them out to authorities for operating sans permit.

Says the mom of one of the teens:

The police officer was extremely pleasant. He said he was sorry to have to do this, but that he was following up on a report filed over the phone by a Town Board member… [My son] was so upset, he was crying all the whole way home. He was worried if he was going to get arrested or have a criminal record.

The Scrooge-like politico who dropped a dime on the teens says rules are rules: “All vendors selling on town property have to have a license, whether it’s boys selling baked goods or a hot dog vendor.”

When asked why he didn’t just approach the boys and tell them they needed the license, Mr. Wet Blanket said, “In hindsight, maybe I should have done that, but I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to do that… The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues.”

New Castle councilman calls cops on boys’ cupcake sale [LoHud.com]

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  1. dolemite says:

    Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Otherwise someone could just open up a business, and put 2 12 year olds out front to sell, and would not have to deal with any of the business laws associated with that type of business.

    As for the “tattletale”…it’s not really his job to directly enforce business regulations. He comes up with the regulations…just like policemen enforce the law, they don’t create the law.

    • Megalomania says:

      There is a difference between children selling homemade goods and commercial grade food. There are also child labor laws, and you can’t just grab some 12 year olds and have them work your stand. I would also assume that the licensed vendors would then file complaints, which would carry a lot more weight than some busybody who doesn’t like kids.

    • sagodjur says:

      It should be pretty easy to tell the difference between a kid-run business selling cupcakes or lemonade and an adult-run business, unless the kids are particularly business savvy. In this age where corporations have tried to paint every thing as a for-profit act (because that’s how they think and they can’t conceive of anyone else doing otherwise), someone might argue that because they’re selling baked goods, they are “vendors,” but I would argue that unless the kids are old enough to own and run their own business for a living, they shouldn’t be considered “vendors.” There should be a non-business exception for the requirement of business licenses, especially for children participating in what those same old curmudgeons who fink to the cops would consider a part of American culture.

      I’m hypocritical for saying this since I’m less than social, but if the tattletale is a town board member, he’s a representative of the town and should engage the people he represents rather than hiding behind the cops. Or does he only believe in making the rules but not engaging with the people they affect? Lofty tower and that sort of thing…

    • Mom says:

      I have no problem with him wanting to enforce the regulations, and even shut the kids down, but he called the cops on 13 year old kids selling brownies. The guy is a total weenie. All he had to do was either talk to the kids himself, or if he’s such a wuss that he couldn’t face them himself, he could have gotten his wife to get their address and sent them a letter on council letterhead. It would have had the same effect without getting the cops involved.

    • evnmorlo says:

      God forbid anyone have the ability to open a business in America.

      • guroth says:

        There are procedures to opening a business, which include among other things, getting a business license.

        It looks like if these kids had been on privately owned property then it wouldn’t have been an issue (or maybe would have fallen under different laws), but they were operating on city property, and so are subject to city laws.

        Maybe the guy should have told them what they were doing was against the law, before calling the cops, but then again it is the police’s job to enforce laws, not a politicians.

        There are all sorts of liability issues with owning a business, which is why businesses are required to be licensed and take other precautions.

        Imagine if one of the brownies was undercooked and gave someone salmonella poisoning which put them into the hospital and accrued a nominal medical bill. With no way to identify or track down the “business” (kids), such a case might fall unto the city for “allowing” the unlicensed business to continue, or the person who got sick may have no way of seeking restitution.

      • dolemite says:

        Honestly, I’d be kind of leery of buying food from a “business” that didn’t have to comply with health regulations, etc. Where are these cupcakes made? Is it sanitary? Does the house have a roach infestation? Do they store cleaning products near the food products? Only the boys’ mom knows for sure!

        • TorontoConsumer says:

          Exactly – having a business license means a lot, including that the product you’re selling is vetted by the municipality, and that you’re paying taxes to repay the resources you’re using, etc. I’d never claim that licensed premises can sometimes sell tainted food, but at least there’s a system in place to identify and remove hazards from them.

          • TorontoConsumer says:

            I’d never claim that licensed premises DON’T sometimes sell tainted food**

            Double negatives – they’ll get yah.

          • Mike says:

            No, having a license simply means you’ve paid the fee and filled out the application to get the license.

            It says nothing of the quality or safety of the product you’re selling.

            If it did, we wouldn’t have the weekly recalls of food from “licensed, regulated, and health-inspected” food & drug manufacturers.

        • chaquesuivant says:

          They’re cupcakes sold by children you germophobic brown little dog.

          Some of my favorite restaurants’ idea of sanitation is cooking the inspector and serving him or her to customers. I always know when the inspector has dropped by ’cause the coq in the coq-a-vin is kind of tough and stringy. Of course the inspectors in my town tend to be pretty old.

          Guess what? These scummy places selling inspector-kebabs are still in business and no one gets sick. Most kitchens – even in tenements – tend to be cleaner than the average restaurants’ – in my humble opinion. Of course – I’m not an inspector – I value my life too much.
          Lighten up you little dog.

        • Mike says:

          Agreed. Thank god for the regulators passing regulations to protect us from all the illnesses and diseases that we could possibly get from homemade baked goods and lemonade sold by kids…

          Now if we can only get them to protect us from the salmonella in spinach, tomatoes, beef, chicken, etc sold to us by those “regulated, health inspected, and licensed” food manufacturers…

    • no says:

      You mean like it should be? Anyone can open up a business and operate it?

      • heybebeh88 says:

        Why should that be? Businessess have to comply with the laws of the jurisdiction in which they reside. This is typically done by getting a business license, which generally costs next to nothing. I *LIKE* that businesses have to be licensed.

        • Pax says:

          The problem is that “next to nothing”, in these kids’ case, would have been “several hundred dollars per two hours of sales-time each day”.

          • kujospam says:

            Make a kids version then for 5 dollars. That why they will learn later about how to go about it when they are 18 and want to sell stuff for them selves.

    • theduckay says:

      Its kind of sad that fraud is the first thing you(/people in general) think of in relation to kids selling baked goods. Whats happening to the world? *sigh*

    • chaquesuivant says:

      They’re children you humorless dog.

    • Peacock (Now In Extra Crispy) says:

      And I nominate you for D*Bag of the Week.

      Now you can go down to City Hall and get some sort of license.

      Or a proclamation or something.

  2. pecan 3.14159265 says:

    He couldn’t confront 13 year old kids? He wanted the police to deal with “these sorts of issues” – it’s not like there was a real crime or anything. It was just kids who didn’t have a license to sell baked goods. A violation of the law, but hardly a violation of such epic scope that SWAT has to be called.

    This guy seems like someone who has nothing to do with their time, isn’t capable of bringing about real change in his area, and just wants his name in the paper to remind people he’s still around. The boys needed a license; local politician just needed to tell the children to tell their parents. Or, better yet, ask them when they were closing and come back to talk to their parents as they picked up their kids.

    • Kitten Mittens says:

      Who’s job is it to enforce the laws? Not a Town Board member… and he didn’t call the SWAT (while I know you were being dramatic, there is an important difference).

      • pecan 3.14159265 says:

        My point was that he obviously wasn’t being reasonable. He would have been confronting 13 year old kids, not meth dealers. He makes it seem as if he would have been risking life and limb. I find that a touch melodramatic.

        Enforcement of the law involves making sure the children comply, and bringing about punishment if they do not – notifying the children of the law’s existence is very different. I can tell my coworkers during lunch about a new city law, but it’s not the same as enforcement because I have nothing to do with my coworkers complying with the law. My only involvement is in notifying them that the law exists.

        Likewise, it was totally within his ability to tell these kids and their parents about the law. It wasn’t his duty to enforce it, but he makes it seem as if notification of the law’s existence and enforcing the law are one and the same.

        • Verucalise (Est.February2008) says:

          In other words, he was a total douche the way he went about it, although he didn’t technically do anything wrong. 100% agree. I feel like I should put a reminiscent quote up…

          “Hey, you kids, get off my lawn!”

        • Kitten Mittens says:

          Within his abilities – but not his job or his duty – right?

          So, some guy tells some teens they need a license….and then the teens dismiss him and nothing changes?

          Sure, he could and probably should have said something to them. But it’s not his job to educate the masses about laws.

          • JennQPublic says:

            It’s not his job or duty to enforce the law, like it’s not his job or duty to call the cops about a couple of youngsters selling brownies. He chose to involve himself, but he chose a half-assed way to do it, so now the internets are calling him out. That’s how this internet thing works.

          • pecan 3.14159265 says:

            He’s a public official – community outreach is part of the job. If you’re not up for that, you shouldn’t try to be elected to an office that requires being an active and public member of the community.

      • Jabberkaty says:

        Look, we all know it’s not up to the royalty to enforce the laws. However, he could have used it as a teaching moment for the kids to show them how to go about starting a business correctly without bringing the law into in an official manner.

    • chaquesuivant says:

      Look at this guys zoominfo profile:

      http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Wolfensohn_Michael_853074428.aspx

      He is on the board of a boys and girls club.

    • MaxPower says:

      This guys is an elected official and I hope people respond to their opinion of him with their votes.

    • jesusofcool says:

      Seriously, this guy sounds immature and obnoxious. What a poor decision on his part.
      Then again, all my interactions with municipal lawmakers lately have convinced me they’re all a bunch of jerks with overdeveloped egos and a sense of entitlement run amok.

  3. Mr. Fix-It says: "Canadian Bacon is best bacon!" says:

    I’m having a hard time feeling sad for the OP because the topic photo is making me laugh too hard.

  4. GoSpursGo says:

    Welcome to America, all you tweens.

  5. SonarTech52 says:

    Great, now these kids are going to resort to selling their cupcakes on the black market…

  6. GMFish says:

    Let me get this straight, a teenage boy from New York was crying because he couldn’t sell baked goods?

    They were selling them for only a buck each? How did they make a profit?

    My guess is they found a bunch of baked goods in a dumpster and started selling them for quick money.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      Cookies are really cheap to make. I can make two dozen cookies for roughly $6, and half of that cost is the chocolate chips. If you go for lower quality chocolate chips, you can make two dozen for $4.

    • bendee says:

      Hmm? Probably store bought icing and mix (makes ~24 cupcakes) – last I checked Wal-Mart/Target/Aldi/etc. sold those for under $1 each. Add in 2-3 eggs ($.20-$.40), 1/4-1/2 cup of vegetable oil ($.10-$.20), and water (free), and 2 dozen cupcakes costs you about $2.50 to make.

      The rest of the “equipment” is likely provided by the parents, as is any utility usage in prep and cleanup.

      • Alvis says:

        Where are you getting eggs? A dozen large eggs costs like $0.90.

        • bendee says:

          I get my eggs at a Farmer’s Market in downtown Philly for about $2.50/dz (worth it though, they are fresh laid that morning and for some reason taste better than the stuff at the supermarket), so I was just guesstimating how much a dozen factory eggs cost (I thought $1-$1.50, guess I was a touch high).

          • pecan 3.14159265 says:

            I’m pretty sure that using pricier eggs for baking doesn’t really make a difference since in baking, eggs are used as a binder and add moisture, but don’t impart their eggy taste. You don’t taste the egg, so it’s much better to use regular eggs.

          • Alvis says:

            If you ever make it up to Trenton, check out Halo Farm. Local eggs and milk supercheap.

    • chaquesuivant says:

      What is your problem? Really, I’d like to know! You conjure up the image of some 15-18 year old boys trying to move ill-gotten baked goods. The kids where 13 – teens only due to a technicality of our numbering system. They were with an adult you stupid, snarky hipster. As for a profit – it was likely 100 percent as their parents probably bought the materials.

      Also – if these boys were girls – I doubt the POS city counselor would have called the police on them.The counselor actually thought the boys were gay little sissies for selling baked goods – or perhaps he gave them the pedo-eye and they didn’t flirt with him – after all – the boys are pretty cute and I could imagine a pedo fancying them.

      Perhaps New Castle Councilman Michael Wolfensohn should be 4-channed.

      • JennQPublic says:

        You make a good point- if this had been two females, I do think he was less likely to call the cops. But more likely because he suspected two teenage boys selling brownies were up to no good, and teenage girls would seem wholesome.

        The girls would still be up to no good, of course, but they’d get away with it for much longer.

  7. Oranges w/ Cheese says:

    More people need to be %$#@&* humans.

  8. Daverson says:

    Hahahaha, all three “related posts” in the sidebar are about the stranded Carnival Cruise.

  9. minjche says:

    I’d have rather had this town board member go the route of explaining the situation to the boys instead of sending in the cops.

    IMO a town board member is there to serve the town, and while he accomplished that task by upholding a clear-cut permit issue, he didn’t do much to help the kids learn from the situation.

    Kudos to the police officer for being polite about the situation.

  10. Cicadymn says:

    They were bringing in some dough to. Get it. Dough. Cupcakes.

    Alright, sorry.

    1st day $120, went to target, bought a cart some water and Gatorade mix to sell.
    2nd day, 1 hour and $30 later they were shut down.

    • Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

      I saw that number and thought “well, just buy a license then.”

      Then saw that the cost of the license is several hundred dollars per TWO HOUR increments. Wow.

      • Billl says:

        Yeah well at least they get the real lesson in American Capitalism. Govt. will shut you down and if you want to open….well let’s just call it a legal shakedown.

    • E. Zachary Knight says:

      Sorry, cupcakes are made from batter. So your pun doesn’t really work.

  11. full.tang.halo says:

    The “Town Board member” didn’t know he could try being a #)%^# human-being, hike up his man pants and turn this into a positive learning experience for the teens. Instead he put on a skirt and ran to the police under the cover of “not knowing if he could do that” and “the police are trained to handle these sort of things”

    Yea they got the boys down at the academy working in shifts training the recruits to handle the teenage black market bake-goods cartels….

  12. Mike says:

    Michael Wolfensohn, the man who called the cops, is a coward and a chump. They’re freaking kids selling goods they made, who cares if they didn’t have a permit? Let the kids make some money to buy comic books or video games, but turning these kids in only makes you look like a chump.

    I wrote the guy a respectful letter asking him to not turn in kids in the future. http://www.newcastle-ny.org/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=11:michael-wolfensohn&catid=16:departments&Itemid=84

    • Mr. Fix-It says: "Canadian Bacon is best bacon!" says:

      Apparently he’s too classy to take candy from babies, so he’s opted to take cupcakes from tweens. :|

      I really don’t see how you could spin this so that Mikey comes out smelling of roses.

    • Cicadymn says:

      In the article the kids said they wanted to take the money they earned selling cupcakes and save it, later using it to help start up a restaurant (which the world is in dire need of. I can’t stand huge corporation owned restaurants). Thought that was a really cool idea.

      I’d take it, buy more to make more with, then spend the rest of it on bullcrap. Hopefully this hasn’t crushed their spirits and they’ll continue to strive to become better.

    • dg says:

      Forget respect… He deserves your best Jeff Spicoli impression:

      “YOU DICK!”

  13. cmdr.sass says:

    This is a microcosm of what government does to small business every day.

    • ARP says:

      So a person should be able to sell whatever they want, wherever they want, and whenever they want?

      Its about proportionality of harm and response, and the inherent unreasonableness of people. If an adult rents a truck/cart and starts selling baked goods off the street, they should be shut down. If a kid is selling cupcakes for $1, the town board member should have either not said anything or used it as a learning experience. Or they can have an exception for VERY small businesses. But you know people will take advantage of that, by setting up 20 very small businesses, etc. So, when people start doing the right thing, the government won’t need to be as omnipresent.

  14. evilpete says:

    I do not see this Scrooge-like politico getting reelected …

    • Thumbmaster says:

      His opponents don’t even have to TRY to look for material. Or maybe he’s retiring. Either way, I agree that his political career (at leat locally) is finished.

  15. Akuma Matata says:

    Hence the problems you get when licenses are required to operate businesses. Licenses are used a way to limit competition.

    • Hoss says:

      When dealing with food, it’s a health issue

      • Akuma Matata says:

        Does the fact that the seller has a license ensure that you won’t get sick from eating that person’s food? If not, what purpose is there then, for having that license if not for the gov’t to get an additional cut of the action and/or for existing sellers to increase the barrier to entry for new competitors?

    • TorontoConsumer says:

      Should you need a license to operate a fire-arms store? How about a pharmacy? There are some things that need to be regulated, for everyone’s safety.

      • Akuma Matata says:

        In both of those cases, what is the license doing for you? Is it guaranteeing you some level of service that an unlicensed seller would not be able to provide?

  16. Remmy75 says:

    I see both sides to this story.

    The politician should have gone himself and explained the rules to the kids. They are teenagers, this could have been a good civics lesson for the kids. Explained why they require permits for this sort of thing. Even helped them try and get one if possible.

    But I still think he was right about calling the cops. I mean how many times do parents get crazy when a stranger approches thier kids and starts takling to them. Who knows what could have happened then. In today’s world, I wouldnt count on anybody being reasonable in a sitation like this. I mean this incident made consumerist cause the moms were made someone made their boy cry.

    By the way I hope the boy was 13 and not 17, cause seriously crying cause they shut down his cupcake stand? The mom said the cop was nice, its not like he pulled his gun on them.

  17. morehalcyondays says:

    Psst…anyone know where I can score some black market cupcakes?

  18. Hoss says:

    But what do we do about the PTA members that sell their cookies on election day? There’s a health concern that should apply to every public sale

  19. twitterme28 says:

    The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues.

    The police are trained to talk to people? Yes, yes they are. -facepalm-

  20. tonsilpool says:

    I don’t think he will be re-elected.

    mbwolf at town.new-castle.ny.us

  21. nodaybuttoday says:

    I feel like there should be an age/money cap on these sorts of things… like if a 12 year old is selling lemonade for 25 cents vs. a 22 year old selling hot dogs for $3.

  22. Murph1908 says:

    It’s the sue-happy nature of America that’s partly to blame for this, again.

    Person A buys a cookie, gets sick that night for something related or non-related to that baked good, and is told food poisoning. Person A sues the parents of the kid, but also sues the city for allowing a non-regulated vendor to sell without a permit.

    Even though they chose to buy from said non-regulated vendor, knowing full well the kid with the cardboard box stand didn’t have an inspection certificate.

  23. CaptCynic says:

    I can completely understand this a$$hat politician’s side… “but I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to do that… The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues”

    So, by allowed to do that, he means interract with the general public in a decent way. He’s a politician for crying out loud… they aren’t trained to use good judgement and civility when dealing with others. That’s just not in their resume.

    On a side note, I’m sure this idiot will never get re-elected, thank God.

  24. nffcnnr says:

    New Castle Councilman Michael Wolfensohn, prepare to meet the anons of 4Chan! LOL

  25. mythago says:

    A better question is, why didn’t Mom explain to her kid that they weren’t going to go to jail or lose their parents’ house or anything, it was just like a parking ticket? Is she just one of those parents who raises their kids to think rules are something for lesser beings?

    • shadowhh says:

      You dont know that.

      If the town board was really full of D-Bags, they could lose there house.

      No Sales tax was collected right. That does not always still well with the state, there are fines. Possible jail time.

  26. Pax says:

    So, instead of letting thirteen year old boys be pro-active and creative in finding ways to make some money for themselves, this poitician would rather they be left with the alternative of … what, exactly?

    Most places won’t hire a thirteen year old, for [i]any[/i] position (even around here, the grocery stores won’t hire anyone under 14, and prfer not to hire anyone under 16).

    So if these boys need/want some pocket money, and their parents can’t spare them much/any …. what, then?

    Crime, perhaps?

    What this guy should have done, is talk to teb oys, tell them that “tehnically” they should have a license, and ask them how much they made, and how long it took to make that many sales.

    Then asked them to – get this – [i]come to the next meeting of the town board[/i], and explain how they came up with the idea to make money that way, and what they wanted to spend it on, etc.

    And the guy himself could, oh I don’t know, [i]propose a Youth Business License[/i], especially for minors, allowing the sale of home-made goods, including food and drink, for 1/10 the normal cost (or less) …?

    The boys would have a participatory experience with local government. The town would get a little bit of additional money. The town, and that politician in particular, would get [b]lots of good PR[/b] for trying to accomodate the boys, while still upholding the letter of the law.

    In the end, everyone would have won.

    Instead, everyone LOST.

    • Yamantaka says:

      +1. Right on, Pax. Best answer on the board by far.

    • amgriffin says:

      This is the most constructive reply I have read all day. You should write that council member a letter suggesting it. Really.

    • mythago says:

      And the guy himself could, oh I don’t know, [i]propose a Youth Business License[/i], especially for minors, allowing the sale of home-made goods, including food and drink, for 1/10 the normal cost (or less) …?

      Excellent idea. When I want to open up my food truck, I won’t bother to go through the normal inspection procedures; I’ll just hide behind my kids and pretend they’re the ones running the business. That way if any mean old food inspectors show up, I’ll say they’re picking on a 12-year-old boy whose only alternative is CRIME!!!!

      Seriously, yes, I agree that the councilman blew what could have been a very good teaching moment for a couple of young entrepreneurs, but really, what lesson do you want these kids to learn? If you’re young and cute the rules don’t apply to you?

      • shadowhh says:

        Watch Kid Co. Its good.

        I do not know about the license rules in that county. But I would have to wonder if these kids are being required to get a license that they can not possibly get. Maybee you have to be 18.

        A Seperate Special License for a kid would be good.

  27. sopmodm14 says:

    uhhh, don’t politicians usually have a legal background ? or have common sense ?

    any politician that doesn’t know this, doesn’t have the guts to take a stand towards REAL issues, values, and common sense

    we trust them to make legislature also ?

    the kids were doing something altruistic, fund-raising or stimulating the economy or etc…

    wtf has that politician been doing ?!

    obviously not addressing “issues” if he has time to ask the police to raid the cupcake stand

    he must not have gotten a kickback or the “licensing fee” from extorting the boys too.

    wow

    that idiot politician should be voted out before he resigns, don’t give him the satisfaction

  28. human_shield says:

    Thank god they stopped him, now the boy can go back to playing video games or selling drugs.

  29. jiarby says:

    I hate roadside food vendors… they never have adequate food safety procedures in place. These kids are just the same. If you are selling food you have to follow the rules. Why not teach the kids that?

    and… all food items prepared for public consumption has to be produced in a “certified comissary kitchen” inspected by the county health department. All employees have to get a “Safe-Serv” food handlers permit.

    • Kibit says:

      I agree with your post.

      There are some people in my area that walk around by stores and some parking lots selling homemade tamales. The tamales look great, but since I have no clue if they were prepared properly and kept at the correct temperature I won’t buy them.

    • Mike says:

      Some of us live in a world where we would rather let kids make and sell cookies and lemonade without a permit than be paranoid of getting sick. If you don’t trust the kids, don’t buy from them, but I don’t want busybody councilmen and Police telling kids not to set up lemonade stands. But maybe that’s just me.

  30. UnicornMaster says:

    Someone is getting coal in their stocking.

  31. Snowblind says:

    The councilman is a Democrat, seeing how that was left out of the article.

  32. 3rdUserName says:

    13 and so upset he was crying all the way home because his bake sale was canned? WOW, that kid wouldn’t have lasted long around the kids at the schools I went to..

    • Pax says:

      No, crying because he was afraid he would be arrested and have a criminal record.

      Having a cop come up and tell you tht you’re breaking the law, and COULD be arrested for it, will frighten even an adult … let alone a thirteen year old.

  33. Nidoking says:

    Have a news crew follow the kids to city hall to document their adventure in trying to get a business license to sell cupcakes. Watch politicians at every level of city government stumble over themselves as they try to figure out how an institution of American youth can be accommodated by a government structure that wasn’t prepared for kids actually going to get a license when they were told they needed one. I predict instant viral success, regardless of the outcome.

  34. Kibit says:

    Do 13 year olds have to pay taxes on their business?

    I know we pay taxes on any and all income, but does that begin at a certain age?

  35. Mulysa says:

    Those poor kids! If only there were people that they could talk with about this before they did something illegal. They should be able to get away with anything because they are so young :(

  36. quail says:

    Out of all of the states in the Union I can see this happening in NY. The place is overrun with phobic, health nuts. During the 80s and 90s there were apparently several hepatitis scares that were traced back to restaurants and the whole place went on medieval lock down when it comes food. They had the first schools to require that all food brought into a classroom had to come from a licensed shop. No more exquisite cookies from grandma. I moved here 7 years ago and still can’t believe the number of germaphobic people I come across scurrying out of bathrooms trying not to touch anything.

    Oh, and yea. The town board member is a douche in the way he handled it. Sadly, douche like behavior is found all over the place.

  37. Clyde Barrow says:

    Well in Michigan, it is now legal to sell food from your home without a license:

    Kitchen fresh: Home cooks can now sell their foods legally

    Read more: Kitchen fresh: Home cooks can now sell their foods legally | freep.com | Detroit Free Press http://www.freep.com/article/20101115/FEATURES01/11150346/Kitchen-fresh-Home-cooks-can-now-sell-their-foods-legally#ixzz15NpPrXs7

  38. XTC46 says:

    Perhaps now the kids will learn that rules apply to them. They are earning money by operating a business, good for them. But they need to follow the same rules regarding businesses that others do.

    Perhaps cities should develop some kind of “kids business” license to teach kids the proper method of starting a business, and encourage that kind of behavior, but at the same time not make it cost prohibative to do so. Make it based on age and income levels as well as business scope (for instance, mowing lawns with 2 people in the company, sure, full landscaping group with 40 people, not a kids business anymore.)

  39. Noadi says:

    Now I absolutely think these boys should have gotten a business license and followed the rule any other vendor on public property has to follow. I think it’s great for kids to have businesses and I would encourage any parent with an entrepreneurial child to help them do it right an part of that is making sure you’re following all the rules and regulations.

    However the idiot local politician who called the cops needs to learn to have a back bone. Are a couple 12 year old REALLY so intimidating that you couldn’t go up to them and say “You kids need to have a business license to do this, go on over to city hall with your parents and apply for one. Until you do that you really shouldn’t have this stand open because the police could shut you down.” That’s not difficult for a normal human being to say instead of calling the cops.

  40. chaelyc says:

    He’s lucky he didn’t get sited for using child labor, too.

  41. Weekilter says:

    There’s a word for people like this guy: douchebag.

  42. AnthonyC says:

    “I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to do that…” Really? A town board member doesn’t know if he’s allowed to tell kids having a bake sale in public that they’re not supposed to be doing that?
    First, what could possibly be illegal or immoral about that? Second, if the town board member doesn’t know the laws, shouldn’t that raise some alarm bells for him?

  43. Bystander says:

    A lot of the posters on here seem to belong to the Zero Tolerance Gang. I guess they would be happy if their kids were arrested and sent to Gitmo for water boarding if they took their GI Joe toy gun to school for show and tell.

  44. t-spoon says:

    “[My son] was so upset, he was crying all the whole way home. He was worried if he was going to get arrested or have a criminal record”

    I’m sure her 13 year old son is so completely OK with his mom saying that to the press.

  45. Intheknow says:

    These aren’t little kids selling lemonade. These are 13-year-olds – not at home – at a park, selling baked goods. I must be getting jaded, because I’m thinking all types of goofy things could be going on with these pastries. Who baked them, what’s in them, and so on. It’s not like you could go back the next day and find out how you got so darned sick. Tax and license aside, I’m not sure it was such a good ides for the boys. I wouldn’t let my kids do it without an adult.

    • shadowhh says:

      Try that with a business that is licensed and inspected. Its not easy. You really have to prove it was them. If you were to only person to get sick, it is likely nothing will ever happen.

      They only way you would ever see anything happen is if many people that ate there got sick.

  46. DoktorGoku says:

    Local politicians? Surely you jest-

    My experience with that sort of person has created my view of them as weak people with weak egos and weak minds.

    I’m glad they posted his name and photo. Let’s see how he handles the town feelings.

  47. RandomHookup says:

    Is “cupcakes” some kinda new slang for drugs? I could understand a teen selling that stuff. I’m always behind and just figured out this “420” stuff.

  48. CentralScrutinizer says:

    Aw, they were just testing out their new Babycakes cupcake grill.

  49. Brian Cooks says:

    Also he’s a massive douche. My sister lives one town over and this does NOT surprise me in the least…

  50. Happy Tinfoil Cat says:

    Kids wanting to learn about business sooner or later have learn to grease palms as well as their brownie pans.

  51. maryland157 says:

    While I don’t know what the license that they would have needed is, if it was some kind of health department license I totally agree with the decision to shut them down. Over 70% of home kitchens are not up to code and would fail miserably at a health inspection. I know my mom’s kitchen is one of them.

  52. shadowhh says:

    LEARN FROM THIS KIDS, this is a life lesson. Next time you see a town official, you HAVE to give him a cupcake for free. Its the way things work. After that you wont have a problem.

    If this happened to my kids I would find out who was on the board and whatever relatives of them I could find. Then see who has kids, and check for the next garage sale listings and bust as many as I could. Get the dangerous criminals and there lemonade stands too.