Should Chocolate Milk Be Served In Schools?

Though there are many differing explanations for why it’s happening, there’s no arguing that childhood obesity is on the rise in the U.S. The latest battleground over our kids’ waistlines is the school lunchroom, where nutritionists are attempting to make arguments for and against the continued sale of chocolate milk.

The L.A. Times talked to a pair of noted nutritionists on opposite sides of this debate.

On the pro chocolate milk side is Rachel Johnson from the University of Vermont, who says that chocolate milk is better than no milk at all:

When children don’t drink flavored milk, they are substituting it with other sugary beverages, including sodas and sweetened fruit drinks, so they aren’t getting any less added sugar, but they are getting a lot less essential nutrients…

If you are going to eliminate flavored milk and milk consumption is going to drop by so much, you are going to have to think about re-planning the whole school menu so you add those nutrients back.

And in the opposite corner is Marlene Schwartz from Yale University, who takes issue with the studies saying kids won’t drink milk at all if you take away the chocolate flavor:

Rather than working to decrease the amount of added sugar in flavored milk, the dairy industry seems more interested in funding studies to convince parents and food service directors that kids won’t drink plain milk. The data from the study that showed a 35% drop in milk consumption when there was no flavored milk in school lunches are unconvincing to me, because most of their observations came from school districts that sold white milk every day and only offered flavored milk on certain days each week. I am not surprised that more children purchased the flavored milk when it was offered. You would find the same thing if on some days you offered plain strawberries and on other days you offered chocolate-covered strawberries. Does that mean we should always offer chocolate-covered fruit to make sure that children get enough nutrients?

Here’s your turn to chime in:

Pro / Con: Should chocolate milk be allowed in schools? [ChicagoTribune.com]

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  1. shadowhh says:

    Usually the milk they sell is Whole Milk, and the Chocolate one is 2%.

    • Sammich says:

      Around here it’s 2% white being sold, and the chocolate milk is 1%. The chocolate milk is absolutely more healthy. Now those flavored “milkshakes” could be an entirely different matter….

    • CyGuy says:

      Actually, per my kids pediatrician, kids over age 4 shouldn’t even be drinking 2%, they should drink skim if possible, or if not, then at most 1%.

      I think flavored milks should be offered before any sodas, but they may want to look instead at smoothie type drinks where milk has had fruit and yogurt added to it instead of sugar and artificial flavors.

      • DariusC says:

        Actually, they should be breastfeeding. Mothers should storm the school with a beastfeed-off and maybe people will get over the weirdness in a few years. Everyone knows breastmilk is healthier!

        /Sarcasm

      • MrEvil says:

        I consumed 2% milk since I stopped nursing, hasn’t hurt me any. Then again my ethnic background (Eastern European and Dutch) makes me one of the least likely people to develop lactose intolerance. I’ve only ever had one broken bone my entire life (hairline fracture of my right radius) and I have not had a SINGLE CAVITY EVER! When I stopped drinking sugary caffeinated soft-drinks and switched to Chocolate milk as an “energy” drink I ended up losing 100 pounds because the milk actually curbed my appetite so I stopped grabbing something to snack on every time I stopped for gas.

        I’m not saying to just buck the recommendations of your kids’ doctor, its just that I don’t think milk with any amount of fat in it is going to necessarily turn your kids into fat turds.

  2. Hi_Hello says:

    I’ll eat chocolate cover fruits if it was given during school lunch :D
    milk should be the last focus on school lunch…

    • sonneillon says:

      I think that even though it was a joke what you said is part of the problem. The schools should essentially force a balanced meal on the kids. As it is the meals that are given to kids are terrible from start to finish, even the veggies are sub par.

      They should spend the extra few minutes during making the meals and sneak veggies into the protein before cooking it. If done correctly the food will taste mediocre (which it does anyways) and have 1-2 servings of veggies (depending on the veggie in the mix).

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        I think the real issue is that there aren’t a lot of opportunities for real food to be made. School lunches are supplied by the USDA in bulk in canned, powder, or frozen form. The supplied food is dirt cheap because it’s bought by the USDA on a massive scale. School districts typically don’t have the funding to deviate from this.

  3. Dallas_shopper says:

    The chocolate milk they served in my elementary school was loaded with sugar and fat. It was useless from a nutritional standpoint. Maybe things have changed since the 1980s, but I doubt it.

  4. ryan89 says:

    I know when I was in high school, if the chocolate milk wasn’t available to me, I would just go get a soda. I was sad when I had to “settle” for soda because I could get two of the heavily subsidized chocolate milk cartons for the price of a soda.

  5. Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

    I must be getting old. We didn’t have chocolate milk at school when I was a kid. We all just drank whole milk — it was either that or water.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      That might be the best tactic here. Remove the soda and make the default drink water or milk. Or juice.

      • rugman11 says:

        Removing the soda would be removing a revenue stream for the school. Highly unlikely.

        • htowninsomniac says:

          Schools shouldn’t be funded by selling soda, they should be funded through taxes. Raise taxes, make kids healthier.

          • Evil_Otto would rather pay taxes than make someone else rich says:

            You’d get lynched by the old folks at the town meeting. Remember, palatial “senior centers”, free “senior shuttles”, etc etc are ESSENTIAL, while schools that are falling down don’t deserve any money. Any tax increase would simply go into services for people whose only current contribution is that they haven’t died.. yet.

            Now if people with kids would just stop being morons and VOTE to fix the schools, then maybe we’d get somewhere.

            • Snoofin says:

              They wouldnt need income from sodas or by raising taxes if they wouldnt waste so much money in other places. Schools dont need indoor swimming pools and 10 million dollar artificial turf athletis fields. The point of going to school is to LEARN, not to play sports on fields that make some colleges envious. They can have phys-ed and play football in a grassy area behind the school like we did when I went to school.

              • RayanneGraff says:

                THIS. My mom is a teacher & she tells me all sorts of stories of the pork spending at her school. Like how they will feed the kids crap I wouldn’t feed my dog & cut music, art, and foreign language before they’ll skimp on the *sports* uniforms.

                I say cut out sports & offer only water, low-fat milk, iced tea, and juice.

          • VeganPixels says:

            No need to raise taxes, just collect what’s already owed, past due, and available and stop entitlement funding of wars and prisons. Done.

    • theycallmeGinger says:

      What? You were forced to drink water?? Blech! Thank god these days our children aren’t subjected to such torture. It’s such a sad state when there are no fruity, acidic, flavored, sugary beverages available to our thirsty children. You know what they say: “If he/she can’t have chocolate milk/soda/gatorade, he/she won’t drink anything at all!” To think, we’d have kids dying of thirst in our very own school systems! Clearly, you should have sued your school for malnourishment (and for lack of tasty-ness).

      • Hi_Hello says:

        haha, i guess you never read about the school that bad junk food from the vending machines.. maybe they got rid of the vending machines… either way, parent said it was cruel and they handed out junk food to the kids through the school fences.

        parents need to be properly inform before any real changes can happen to the school.

  6. qbubbles says:

    If it weren’t for chocolate, I wouldn’t think milk at all. But, because I’m lactose intolerant (which many people are, these days) I couldn’t drink the school milk, whatsoever. And soy juice is just repugnant.

    • brandy says:

      Soy juice?

      • Firethorn says:

        fake milk made from soybeans.

        • brandy says:

          I’m pretty sure that’s called soy *milk*, not juice. I know the dairy industry wants to remove “dairy” labeling from non-dairy milks, but I don’t think that’s necessary. Are we going to rename coconut milk, too? How about milk of magnesia? I guess we’d better change the name of peanut butter, too… people might think there’s butter in it!

          • reishka says:

            Don’t forget almond milk and rice milk…

          • fourclover54 says:

            I think calling it milk is a U.S. or western thing. If you buy a can of soy bean liquid from a Thai/Vietnamese restaurant, they call it “Soy juice” or “Soy drink” on the menu and the can, not milk.

          • adamstew says:

            It’s not soy milk. Milk, by definition, comes from a boob.

            “an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young.”

            or

            “this liquid as secreted by cows, goats, or certain other animals and used by humans for food or as a source of butter, cheeses, yogurt, etc.”

            It’s soy juice. Any references to soy milk are just a marketing gimmick by certain companies named after expensive fabrics to make people think the are the same thing.

            • brandy says:

              It’s worth noting that Silk is a brand, not a company, and is owned by Dean Foods, which owns several brands of dairy milk. I wonder what they think of the naming.

              The term “milk” is also used to describe “a liquid resembling milk in appearance” (MW), like the two examples I already mentioned.

      • qbubbles says:

        In Europe its mostly referred to as “Soy Drink” or juice. And that’s where I was force fed it by my well meaning parents. So, yeah. No big conspiracy against other “milks” out there, from me. Didnt mean to rile people up.

        And for what it’s worth, I loves me some coconut milk. Not so much the water…

    • Leela says:

      Silk chocolate soy milk is good. All the others are DISGUSTING!

    • GameHen says:

      I read somewhere that lactose tolerance is something that we lose naturally if we don’t keep drinking milk (or was it consuming dairy?) through the years. If true, I would imagine that lactose intolerance is less a problem with children and encouraging milk consuming would reduce the occurance in adults.

      • qbubbles says:

        I’d go with that, only I’ve had lactose intolerance since birth. Much to the chagrin of my formula feeding parents. Lol. They used to call me “Stinky”.

      • baquwards says:

        I switched to almond milk for my cereal at the beginning of the year. Recently I was out and used regular milk (my partner drinks it, I really don’t touch milk unless it is in cereal), I farted all day long and had terrible cramps, not a pleasant experience! So I guess my body doesn’t process it very well now that I rarely consume it.

  7. smo0 says:

    Remove the chocolate milk, remove the soda vending machines, add alternative drinks including milk substitutes like soy and almond milk……

    • Level-Headed, Even-handed says:

      YEAH!

      And only vegetables and fruits for school lunches!

      Plus only non-salted V8 juice to drink!

      Plus give them all more homework!

      And add an hour to the school each day!

      Two legs good, four legs bad!

      You adults just want to make school even MORE miserable for your kids, don’t you?

      you suck :(

      • shadowhh says:

        OMG, its been a while since I have seen an Animal farm reference. Well done.

        • smo0 says:

          It’s funny because I was using an Animal Farm reference the other day while talking about this whole “type of government we have” debate….

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        “You adults just want to make school even MORE miserable for your kids, don’t you?”

        No, if we wanted that then we’d petition school districts to bring back the “board of education”.

      • smo0 says:

        Adding more time in school would benefit children… if you think about it – there aren’t any parents to come home to (at 2-3pm)…. most places have eliminated after school programs…
        I say put that hour or two in the middle, re incorporate nap time…. or more study/relax time… do as you see fit time….. then send them home later in the day.

        • Lollerface says:

          I wish schools would do this. It is very difficult to make after school arrangements for a young kid when both parents are at work. This could easily be worked into an internship with students in an early education program.

        • Me - now with more humidity says:

          There aren’t any parents to come home to? Generalize much?

          Tell that to the several hundred parents (me included) picking up our kids at 2:30 every day at my kid’s elementary school.

          And if we need aftercare, it’s only $100 a month.

          • smo0 says:

            I wasn’t saying anything bad about parents… read the guy who’s comment is below yours…

            Helpful suggestions for struggling parents who may not be able to afford $10 a month for daycare….

            You’re lookin’ like a pretty big chump right now.

            • Willnet says:

              Daycare is horrible anyways. I went to daycare for 14 years. Its like another prison, after getting out of the other prison (school).

      • Kryndar says:

        Guh, it is “Four legs good, two legs better.”

    • Sarcastico says:

      And beer! And coffee!

      • zandar says:

        actually, when i went to high school you COULD get coffee. Students and teachers ate in the same cafeteria at the same time. it was just there in the line. I got some myself a couple of times.

        I love soy milk and almond milk. and cow’s milk for that matter. i say let kids decide on something like that. If there’s interest, provide it.

        • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

          It sounds like we went to the same high school. Did you also have a designated smoking area (for teachers and students) too?

  8. Level-Headed, Even-handed says:

    yes

  9. Liam Kinkaid says:

    I think the real question here is should women be breastfeeding their children chocolate milk in schools.

  10. TouchMyMonkey says:

    I feel so…old. We didn’t have chocolate milk in our cafeteria. But then, I went to public school in the 1970s.

    • Grabraham says:

      I went to public schools in the 70’s and we had white milk, chocolate milk and buttermilk (yech) available in the cafateria

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        Must have been a fancy school :-)

        We had whole milk and if you didn’t want that, you could go to the water fountain.

    • GuyGuidoEyesSteveDaveâ„¢ says:

      You had a cafeteria?!

    • zandar says:

      70’s public school alum as well… we had white whole milk, no chocolate. We also had little tubs of ice cream sometimes. Always vanilla. Went nicely with the bread and water, lol.

    • HogwartsProfessor says:

      I did too, and when we got to junior high we were allowed to hit the snack bar, which had Lance crackers, sandwiches, apples, oatmeal cream pies and CHOCOLATE SHAKES. The milk was just regular white milk.

      I actually liked most of the school lunches. The homemade hamburger pizza was good and the canned chili too. I’ve wondered for years what brand it was. Most everything was good except for the turkey and noodles. The sauce was green. Green! It looked like melted boogeys!

  11. Leela says:

    At the school where I work, regular milk 1% and the chocolate milk is fat-free. We go through about 3 times as much chocolate as regular and if we run out of chocolate, the kids take nothing. Besides, I thought I’d read somewhere that calcium is better absorbed from chocolate milk.

  12. c!tizen says:

    What’s the phrase I’m looking for…

    HELL MOTHERF$&*#NG YEAH!.

    It’s chocolate milk, and a small container of it at that. The chocolate milk isn’t making your precious angel fat. It’s their unwillingness or physical incapabilities to run around outside and play that makes your child fat, that or a thyroid problem which is still unrelated to CM. I drank chocolate milk all through school, still do, and I’ve never been overweight. Stop trying to ruin it for everyone.

    Too much video games, TV, and internet makes your kids fat.

    • ShruggingGalt says:

      “It’s their unwillingness or physical incapabilities to run around outside and play that makes your child fat,”

      How about the fact that running around outside at school is inherently dangerous and has mostly been banned? No more tag, no horseplay, etc.

      We coddle our kids too much these days. Add that to the fact that they are told that everyone is special, and no one can be left behind, and that there are no winners, etc.

      • c!tizen says:

        PTA’s and other parent groups have officially managed to suck all the fun out of being a kid. I’m glad I grew up when I did. When having fun and being stupid was still allowed, and there was no Facebook to record it.

      • zandar says:

        Agreed there. I let my three kids play dodge ball tag with a stuffed toy at a mall play place recently and even though they were very carefully not interfering with the small kids, I just got the dirtiest looks from parents. Horseplay has become a taboo thing like pornography. Crazy.

    • Magspie says:

      I let my son drink chocolate milk but now that I know you drank it as a kid I’m seriously reconsidering.

    • Tim says:

      It’s their unwillingness or physical incapabilities to run around outside and play that makes your child fat

      So what exactly are you advocating? Let the children be inactive AND feed them sugar-filled milk?

    • ARP says:

      It’s not just exercise. It’s the intersection of exercise and diet. A small container of chocolate milk won’t make your kid fat. But sweetened juice+ HFCS in bread + fruit roll-ups that are mostly HFCS, etc.= your kid has to exercise for about 10 hours a day to burn off all that crap.

      So if the chocolate milk were just a small indulgence, no big deal. But as kids’ diets get loaded with more and more fat and sugar, its harder to burn it off, even with regular exercise.

      That’s why you need to have a combination of a reasonable diet and a program that encourages physical activity.

    • Jimmy60 says:

      The kids aren’t exercising because they don’t have the energy. They don’t have the energy because animal fats have been demonized. They eat carbs and sugar all day long and we wonder why they are lethargic and fat.

      When I started cutting way down on carbs and sugars and increasing animal fats my energy level went way up and I had to buy smaller pants.

      Animal fats, it does a body good.

    • Willnet says:

      I was the milk drinking champion back in elementary school. I don’t remember what the record was but it was epic. Like a carton in 2 seconds. I would drink up to 6 cartons and steal more. I got fat but that was because I played diablo 2 all day, but now I’m not fat and I still drink like 2 gallons of milk every 4 days. O’Doyle rules!

  13. Oranges w/ Cheese says:

    If you sold it for $1 and said it was designer or vampire related (tint it red) you could actually get the kids to drink WATER!

  14. kevslim says:

    +1 for “Malk”. That popped into my head as soon as I read the topic headline.

    • Sparty999 says:

      as long as we’re making Simpson’s references… how bout “There’s not a lot of meat in these gym mats…”

    • JulesNoctambule says:

      My husband says it like that, thanks to his mom’s east Tennessee accent. It annoys me to the point where I’ve begun correcting him, but at least he’s interested in learning how to say it properly.

      • HogwartsProfessor says:

        I loves me some east Tennessee accent! (The BF is from there.) I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say “malk,” but he does say “wont” for “want.”

  15. Oranges w/ Cheese says:

    Oh, also – kids really shouldn’t be drinking milk anyway. Eat real food and drink healthy things and you won’t need to drink your artificially added vitamins.

  16. dolemite says:

    I can honestly say…I won’t drink plain milk with food unless the food is a dessert. And the same goes for when I was in school.

    Also, I was thin as a rail and won the Presidential fitness award.

    This micromanagement of what people eat is getting out of hand.

    • Oranges w/ Cheese says:

      This micromanagement of what people eat is getting out of hand.

      This.

    • Tim says:

      This micromanagement of what people eat is getting out of hand.

      So we should let children eat whatever they want to eat?

      • dolemite says:

        After educating them on alternatives, yes.

        I don’t need the government telling what I can and can’t eat. The United States was founded on personal freedom, not imposing what we “think” others should do, say, eat, drink, etc.

        • Tim says:

          Okay, so educate them on alternatives, then give them choices. It’d be like giving someone a gun with no training, THEN giving them training. Currently, this country is doing an extremely poor job at educating children about nutrition.

        • Billy says:

          The school system ALREADY imposes upon students what they should eat and drink. School lunch is supposed to conform to the USDA’s guidelines and its Food Pyramid. That seems to be forgotten when discussing “choices”.

          Unfortunately, a school can comply with the pyramid AND heap on loads of other nutritiously-void crap with out issue. THAT’s the problem.

          But that’s beside the point. They’re kids. There are some things for which they don’t need any more “choice”. Why can’t we just do good things for kids instead of emphasizing some need for a choice between good things and shit?

      • zandar says:

        yes, i absolutely think you should. Our family sits down to dinner together, and there is a good variety of healthy foods. We make concessions to kid tastes, but our kids are inquisitive and see the adults eating all this stuff. Eventually one, then all the kids are eating roasted carrots, not just the adults, and asking for it at other meals. That’s how this parent-child modeling thing works, and kids respond beautifully, especially if you give them (1) choices and (2) responsibility.

        • Tim says:

          First of all, my question was about letting children eat whatever they want. Your response is about providing them with choices. Secondly, and more importantly, many children don’t get the same at-home nutrition education that your family provides. Should we force families to provide that education?

    • ARP says:

      Agreed, but parents often have poor diets and are passing that on to their kids. Fat kids can often result in fat adults with poor health. That costs healty people money under any insurance system (UHC, Single Pay, private insurance, etc.) and results in reduced productivity (due to sick days, etc.). So there is a purely economic interest in teaching kids good eating habit early on, even if the parents can’t/don’t/won’t beyond the “good for society” argument. The ongoing question is how far should they (schools) go?

  17. Bernardo says:

    I say dont allow any candy, soda, or fake juces to be sold in schools at all and dont allow choco milk. But do have regular milk, 2% and soy. I’d love to see pizza and other junk foods thrown out to. I was raised in the south Bronx and school lunches sometimes were the best meal I had to look forward to that day. I think they should be as healthy as possible to make sure the children who depend on them get the most from them.

    Has anyone else watched some of those Jamie Oliver food revolution shows on abc? He really had the right idea I think. Its a shame we cant put more money into our school breakfast and lunch programs to make sure our kids are eating right.

    • Level-Headed, Even-handed says:

      I hate you.

    • Sparty999 says:

      I hate you too… and your kids will too.

    • Firethorn says:

      Then I’d either be bringing my own or escaping the campus for it.

      I’ve never been one for plain white milk unless I’m also having cookies or something with it. Still, there are a whole range of options for chocolate milk right along with regular milk.

      The trick is to take a step away from whole or 2% chocolate milk sweetened with HFCS. Chop the sugar in half, use real sugar and 1% or even skim milk.

      Oh, and going back – with some real exercise the milk doesn’t make any difference.

      • jason in boston says:

        You nailed it – the kids will find and eat what they want. Usually off school grounds.

        I think that trying to tell a kid or show them what is good for you should be the metric. Banning something just makes it more appealing.

    • Hobz says:

      Actually if the pizza was made right, it could be as healthy as most health foods. Thin, whole wheat crust with cheese and tomato sauce along with veggies, What is so bad about that?

    • Alvis says:

      No soy milk. People who drink soy milk turn into assholes.

    • CookiePuss says:

      People all have their own views on whats “healthy”. Some say no red meat, others say no carbs, others say no meat at all and only eat tofu with bean sprouts. One day eggs are good for you the next day they raise your cholesterol and give you restless leg syndrome.

      And really, whats to stop the kid from eating 10lbs of cheeze doodles once schools out? If their eating healthy at home then a chocolate milk isn’t going to make them fat. Is chocolate milk the new gateway drug where the next step is sucking grease straight out of a fast food deep fryer?

      • Bernardo says:

        So what we just dont try? With that logic why bother schooling them at all?

        • CookiePuss says:

          No. It means parents can teach their own kids how to eat healthy on their own terms(on top of basic school taught health class). Really, what high school kid doesn’t know that drinking liter upon liter of soda, scarfing down fast food and Doritos with no exercise is going to make them fat?

          So yeah, the main point is teach your kid to exercise and portion control–not banning chocolate milk…and soda…and pizza in school where most students only eat 1 meal per day.

    • indeeme says:

      I wished he had discussed the politics involved a little more in that show. For one meal he went above the federal nutrition requirements, but because the students were choosing not to eat it, he had to dumb it down. Better to serve junk food that they’ll eat, than healthy food that they don’t. It’s actually in the Federal requirements that the kids have to eat the food in order for the food to meet the requirements. That’s just stupid.

    • jessjj347 says:

      The most disturbing thing I saw was when he made “chicken” nuggets for the kids and was completely flabbergasted when they ate them. In the UK, the kids did not touch the things.

      Seriously though, I don’t think the problem is chocolate milk alone. The issue is that all of the food is unhealthy. It was all just carb on card and junk food.

  18. GuidedByLemons says:

    The data from the study that showed a 35% drop in milk consumption when there was no flavored milk in school lunches are unconvincing to me, because most of their observations came from school districts that sold white milk every day and only offered flavored milk on certain days each week. I am not surprised that more children purchased the flavored milk when it was offered. You would find the same thing if on some days you offered plain strawberries and on other days you offered chocolate-covered strawberries. Does that mean we should always offer chocolate-covered fruit to make sure that children get enough nutrients?

    I don’t get it. The study showed that many children drink no milk when chocolate milk is not offered, you agree that it shows that, and… what, exactly? You’re not convinced of what?

    • katyggls says:

      She’s a bad scientist basically. She believes that chocolate milk is bad for kids and that they’ll drink unflavored milk if chocolate is not offered. These beliefs aren’t based on science or data, it’s just what she “feels”. So she approaches any study with these preconceived beliefs and then tries to debunk them based on same. It’s the opposite of the scientific method. Kinda unbelievable that this person works at Yale.

      • webweazel says:

        Yup. I remember an article from years ago, in Discover, I think, where this researcher/scientist/whatever guy did research that said that milk, and all dairy products are basically the direct spawn of Satan. He found, and I believe, manipulated any results he could find to justify his beliefs. One comment he said really stuck with me all these years later- He stated his GROWN son “slips up” and has some cheese once in a while. What kind of arrogant bastard dictates from afar what his grown son can and cannot eat? He’s evidently got his whole family under his terroristic thumb. This just shows how nutzoid some of these people are. Facts are what they SAY they are, not what they ACTUALLY are.

    • Tim says:

      Read this: http://www.chefann.com/blog/archives/1936

      The organization that funded the study refused to release it. They referred the writer to the firm that conducted the study, and after learning what she writes about, they also refused to release it.

      To me, any study that whose authors won’t release it cannot be scientifically scrutinized or replicated, and should pretty much be ignored by the scientific community and the public at large. How can we know their methods? How can we know their actual results? How can we even know it’s reliable, accurate or valid?

  19. ninabi says:

    It’s sad, really. By declaring that sugary milk is needed, the adults in charge are saying they are absolutely helpless in promoting healthy habits because the children are calling the shots.

    Make it a rule- no sugared beverages in the school. What’s wrong with milk, plain soy milk or water? Don’t like the options? Too bad. But with obesity and behavior issues in children, adults should be focused on what children need and not what they want.

    Unfortunately, advertising to children heavily influences their wants.

  20. junkmail says:

    I think the day we noticed the container of chocolate milk we’d just given our daughter had more sugar than a Mountain Dew, was the day chocolate milk died in our house.

    • dolemite says:

      Unlike the dew though, milk has vitamins, protein, and many other things that are great for a developing child. Sugar? Merely an energy source that the body requires. Consumed in great quantities can lead to obesity, but nothing is wrong with sugar.

    • Oranges w/ Cheese says:

      Plus, its not fake processed sugar either, its the good body-fuel that comes straight from natural sources, like a cow.

    • cluberti says:

      A 20oz Mountain Dew has 77g of sugar, or approximately 25 tsp. A 20oz glass of Chocolate Milk, depending on the vendor, has approximately 10 tsp of sugar, or 30g. I’m not sure where you got that chocolate milk, but it was most definitely more chocolate than milk.

      As to chocolate milk, I’d prefer it not be offered only because it is just added calories and sugar that plain-jane regular white milk wouldn’t otherwise have, but given the alternatives like sodas I’d choose the chocolate milk.

      A major point though is that parents are not giving their kids proper nutrition or nutritional training – I was in school admittedly in the 80s, but the food we had on offer (and it was mostly junk) didn’t seem to make any of us fat – we ate fairly well at home, and were active most of the year rain, snow, or shine. Why aren’t we tackling the real problem versus trying to nitpick over chocolate milk or soda?

  21. GameHen says:

    My kids (7 and 4) prefer chocolate milk (we make our own, the pre-made stuff is too sugary) and will drink it voluntarily. They drink plain milk (we do skim milk) mostly just because it’s normal to drink it with meals and they’re in the habit, not really because they like it. I can pretty much guarantee that they won’t normally drink the plain stuff at school when someone isn’t making them. They’d rather have water.

    Personally, I hated milk when I was in school, my entire school life (specifically I hated drinking out of the cartons, not the milk itself). I actually had fights with my 1st grade teacher over it. When I was older and could choose for myself, it was always a soda.

    All this being said, my kids eat fairly healthy so whatever they want to do is honestly fine with me.

    • Lollerface says:

      I love milk, now and when I was a kid, but I too found the school milk revolting. The crates always had stains on them and the cardboard always smelled rotten to me.

  22. Warai says:

    You can take away whatever foods you like from the schools, but when these kids go home and are fed McDonalds 3 nights a week and refuse to get any physical exercise they are going to get fat. I would not have drank milk as a child if I couldn’t have chocolate, come to think of it I still don’t drink regular milk. Then again I was raised drinking whole chocolate milk and have never been anywhere near fat. It’s amazing what a balanced diet and a little bit of playing outside can do for a kid.

  23. Tim says:

    Take away chocolate milk. While you’re at it, for any schools that allow students to buy soda or even juice, take that away. They’re not going to replace chocolate milk with something else if there’s nothing to replace it with.

    These are children. We’re under no obligation to give them what they want. In fact, we’re under more of an obligation to give them what they need.

    • Dallas_shopper says:

      This.

    • Sparty999 says:

      You may end up with skinny elementary kids… but be ready for fat teenagers who spend all their money on junk.

      • colorisnteverything says:

        People who aren’t raised on junk (like myself) but don’t have it completely banned (so that they go crazy when they can) are generally pretty healthy eaters. I know that I eat a very balanced diet and a lot of that comes from the fact that mom didn’t let my sister and I eat crap. She let my grandmother indulge us (best cook and baker EVER) and we did get snacks if we ate our dinner, but we didn’t get sugary crap. If I eat fried food, it makes me feel ill. Therefore, I have learned to avoid it.

    • Billy says:

      No kidding. I’m not sure when “choice” supplanted “doing good things for children” as the ideal.

      As I’ve mentioned before, the USDA already regulates what’s in school lunches anyway. Not much “choice” to begin with.

    • RayanneGraff says:

      PLEASE have children. You would make a wonderful parent. I am not kidding or being sarcastic- we need more parents like you, who would dare to raise a child without giving in to their every whim, with the guts to actually say NO once in a while!

    • Kimaroo - 100% Pure Natural Kitteh says:

      The only way I’d support getting rid of chocolate/flavored milk in school would be if they also got rid of any other sugar-filled beverages as well. I remember in school up to Middle School, there was chocolate milk, regular, and low fat, but also lemonade made by a soda company, and gatorade. There is no reason why a child at school should be drinking gatorade at lunch. The school figured that just because it wasn’t soda (carbonated) then, it was ok to sell.

      Then when I got to highschool everything was fast-food crap junk and vending machines. Even I stopped drinking chocolate milk in exchange for cans of YooHoo out of a vending machine. Why? Because the line was shorter and I was actually able to eat my food in the 15 minutes they gave us to eat. If you got stuck in the line you were SOL when it came to actually getting to eat anything.

  24. Sparty999 says:

    I have two skinny kids,,, they eat all the crap that people say is unhealthy in moderation. If you deprive kids of it when they have little choice in what they eat, they will binge on it when given the chance… (that’s what I did)… Kids need to think that what they are eating and drinking is a normal choice that they can make!!!

    Stop telling me how to raise my kids!!

  25. Sarcastico says:

    Yeah! Chocolate covered EVERYTHING for the world.

  26. magnetic says:

    My rural school sold 1%, 2% and skim normal milk, and the chocolate milk was all skim. I hated chocolate milk, and was never a fan of milk in general, but my grandmother has been on a campaign to treat all ills with milk my whole life, so I felt obligated to drink it. I went with skim, since it tastes the least like milk.

  27. Pax says:

    Every time I have seen Chocolate Milk in schools, it’s been chocolate LOW-FAT milk. Which was less fattening than normal, ordinary Whole Milk.

    Panic less, think more. PLEASE.

  28. JonBoy470 says:

    Marlene Schwartz is not surprised that kids bought chocolate milk when it was offered. The 800 lb. gorilla in the room is: What did the kids buy when the chocolate milk wasn’t offered?

    If the answer is soda pop or juice (and I’ll bet it is) then it’s a net benefit to have chocolate milk. The whole anti-chocolate milk argument seems weak to me.

    • Tim says:

      Who said you had to offer them soda or juice? Soda has no place being sold in a school, especially below high school. Juice usually has a similar amount of sugar to soda and very little actual fruit in it.

      If you give children an option between something without a lot of sugar and something with a lot of sugar, guess what they’ll choose? Sugar!

  29. kmiles says:

    Maybe we should focus more on children getting off their butts at home and exercising rather than whether or not they should get some chocolate in their milk. Or on why the heck soda is available alongside milk?? Seriously… I would have picked soda over milk any time if I’d have had the option as a kid. That’s kind of how kids are – it’s the responsibility of adults to make sure kids are getting what they need.

  30. Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

    With so many variables at play, I’m not sure if banning chocolate milk is really going to do anything.

    I grew up in the 1970’s and like many kids of that era, had a terrible diet by today’s standards — lots of hot dogs, mac & cheese, Five Alive, skinny glass bottles of Coke, lots of fried food, real butter, real lard, canned veggies, etc…

    Looking back at old family photos, most of us looked border line emaciated. Everybody was skinny. In class photos, there weren’t any fat kids and the kids who were made fun of for their weight would probably be about average for today. It’s amazing how much things can change in 20 or 30 years.

    • Outrun1986 says:

      Its the HFCS commonly found in most products targeted towards kids these days (just check the labels to see what I am talking about). Some kids, unless their parents watch them closely are consuming HFCS in every single thing they eat, which is very very bad.

      White bread, HFCS, peanut butter, some brands have it, jelly, most have it, so one normal sandwich already has 3 sources of HFCS in it, unless you make substitutions.

      In the 70’s there was no HFCS, or it was very rare, it didn’t start to become commonplace (aka in everything) until around 1996. So even if you ate lots of fatty foods, you were not consuming HFCS en masse like today’s kids are.

      That is the only way I can explain it. Kids also had video games in the late 70’s and 80’s, and would sit and play them just as much as kids do today (if not more since there were no save functions). Most households back then had computers in the 80’s and TV’s in the 70’s which means just as much sitting as is done today.

    • ARP says:

      I’m a child of the 80’s, but we were in the same boat. I think its a number of things:

      1) Lack of excercise- due to parents fear, lazy kids, TV, internet, video games, etc.
      2) Proportion sizes- You ate one hot dog, one bottle of coke, etc. We’ve become a “bigger is better” society when it comes to food.
      3) Worse ingredients- There’s even more artificial flavors, ingredients, etc. and even more HFCS in what we eat.
      4) Lower quality of food- Factory farms have reduced the quality of the food we eat.
      5) Bad Parents- yep, I said it. Parent that give their kids everything they want (for whatever reason), teand tend to become selfish/entitled kids. If they do this for food, they become fat too.

      • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

        That’s a good point about portion size. I was just talking to a coworker about when quarter pound hamburgers came out. I can remember thinking how huge a quarter pound of meat was and how ridiculously big it seemed. I never would have guessed double and triple quarter pounders were just on the horizon.

        The subject of soda has also come up numerous times on the Consumerist. It wasn’t all that long ago that a large soda was the equivalent of today’s small and how there was really no such thing as a free refill. It would be interesting to see a comparison of typical caloric intake from beverages of today vs. 1975.

        • HogwartsProfessor says:

          I saw an article once comparing portion sizes now to ones from the 1950s. The food in the comparison was a hamburger, fries and a coke. For the 1950s portions, think tiny McDonald’s hamburger size, the littlest fries they have (like the ones in the Happy Meal) and one of the small skinny Coke bottles.

          That’s WAY less than even kids eat now! I ate tiny fast food meals like that from Burger Chef and don’t ever remember going hungry. There’s too much food. The portions have grown to twice or even three times that. No wonder all the kids are so fat.

          And do they even still have gym in school? In our school, you HAD to take it. No exceptions unless you couldn’t walk. There was like maybe one fat kid in the whole class. Now they’re the majority.

          So sad.

          • Outrun1986 says:

            We had gym once a week for 45 min, the last time I checked it has been upped to 1 hour a day for 3 days a week in my cousin’s schools. Some schools are talking about increasing it to 1 hour a day for 5 days a week, which would be ideal and would cover kids recommended exercise requirements for at least 5 days a week during the school year.

            However I don’t know any school around here that still has recess, and even I never had it while in school.

  31. Alvis says:

    Why does there need to be extra sugar in chocolate milk? Can’t they just add chocolate flavoring and no sugar?

    • evnmorlo says:

      “Chocolate” is usually a sweet flavor. They could use artificial sweetener, but parents would start complaining about it making their kids autistic.

  32. guspaz says:

    Replace the sugar in chocolate milk with sucralose. Boom, problem solved; tastes exactly the same, and much healthier. Downside: sucralose costs a lot more than sugar.

    Of course, this will never actually happen, because aside from the cost, there are too many crazy quacks out there that will claim that sucralose must cause all the world’s ills because it’s not naturally occurring or something.

    • JulesNoctambule says:

      Other downside: Some people have reactions to it that include such fun side effects as migraines and nausea.

  33. Outrun1986 says:

    Ok, get this in our high school we were FORCED to drink milk, it was the only beverage offered if you bought the school lunch. They did have different varities of milk, skim, whole, 2% and chocolate. Also if you bought the school lunch you had to take the milk, you could not just leave it behind, so taking it and throwing it away was popular. As you could imagine, most of the students drank chocolate, for those who actually drank the milk. They would not give you water as an alternative, it was only milk. There was a juice machine, but you had to buy it separate and as we all know, the sugar filled juice is much worse for you than the milk. I don’t think they offered bottled water, if you wanted it you had to bring it from home. If you wanted to drink something else you had to bring it from home since the soda machines were locked out until 3pm.

    I don’t think a tiny container of chocolate milk is the problem here, however perhaps they could switch from whole chocolate milk to 2% or 1% chocolate milk. That would remove some of the fat and calories from it. As I can remember one of those tiny containers of whole chocolate milk was like 8-10 grams of fat and almost 200 calories, which is too much for just a small drink. However using skim or 1% milk would bring that down to 2-4 grams of fat a significant difference and a significant calorie difference too. Alternative healthy beverages should also be offered and encouraged.

    The processed high fat foods are more of a problem than a tiny container of milk.

  34. cgskitters says:

    Chocolate milk when I was in school was non-fat compared to the white which was 2%. The white milk was usually sour too, which is probably why nobody drank it. At least the sugar in it is sugar and not HFCS. The milk is the least of the things to worry about on the menu… fries, burgers, pizza available everyday for those that didn’t want the scheduled meal.

  35. bandit says:

    Screw it. Feed them nothing. That should solve the issues.

  36. AI says:

    Here’s some comparisons between chocolate milk, white milk, and other drinks: http://www.rechargewithmilk.ca/compare-it.php#white-milk

  37. htowninsomniac says:

    I don’t recall chocolate milk being very common in Germany, yet Germans drink more milk than US Americans. The argument that children won’t drink milk if it’s not flavored is clearly flawed.

  38. kursk says:

    As a teacher, I am totally gobsmacked by the crap we serve students. “Breakfast pizza” eg sausage pizza, sweet rolls, etc. One school I taught at did offer kids cereal and fruit plates with yogurt but they quit since they had to throw a good bit of it out at the end of the day. The only way we can get kids to drink milk was by using chocolate milk. It’s frankly the only way we could get kids to drink milk.

    Our principal and vice-principal were both triathletes. So, they were big on nutrition. We had a “get healthy, have fun” week. They served actually relatively healthy meals to the kids instead of the hamburger/fries/enchiladas/pizza/fish sticks routine. I hated teaching after lunch since so many of the kids quit eating lunch and were hellishly sluggish or brought crapola from home. Yes, we did get rid of chocolate milk. Really. We had to bribe the kids with a blow off day on Friday to get them to even bother looking at the food. There were the “milk straws” that gave you chocolate or strawberry flavor when you drink through it going around like wildfire.

    Mind you, the teachers loved the menu even if it did taste extremely institutional. We wasted SOOOOO much money that week on food.

    • kursk says:

      BTW, all our chocolate milk is skim. Mind you, whole milk is actually loaded with sugar albeit a more “natural” source.

    • Outrun1986 says:

      Yeah the reason they won’t eat anything else is because they don’t know anything else since processed fatty foods are all that has been fed to them since they were old enough to eat food. Anything other than pizza and chicken fingers and burgers is yukky. Jamie Oliver tried (if you have seen the TV show) and those kids wouldn’t even eat yogurt, really sad, since yogurt tastes awesome to me and I have always eaten it. So yeah I do believe that kids won’t eat anything else, its true.

      If parents don’t make a special effort to shape their kids taste buds when they are very young and feed them a wide variety of foods instead of just what is available on store shelves you have this problem. But nowdays you have to make a special effort to feed your kids something decent because crap has infiltrated every corner of our society instead of healthy decent food being the norm which is really sad.

      • Tim says:

        I think you only watch small parts of Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution. By the end of the show, the students really did like the food he was preparing. Oh, and he took away flavored milk too.

    • Nigerian prince looking for business partner says:

      Another issue is that a huge portion of students eat two meals at school. It’s very difficult to produce high quality food at a very low cost at an institutional setting and definitely not for a $1.35. The only way to do it is when everything is canned, frozen or powdered. I think one unhealthy meal for 180 days a year would be a non-issue but many students where I live get two meals a day from schools, all year round.

      I’m from the city that Jamie Oliver went to (I was actually in one of the episodes) and ultimately his “experiment” was a failure locally. The county school district wanted to make changes but they have very little budget room to overhaul the system — they literally get tens of thousands of dollars worth of surplus food from the USDA. They would have to throw away this food to make room for the healthy and more expensive meals.

  39. drburk says:

    I had sugar free chocolate milk from one of these fancy dairy / ice cream shops that deliver it was really good, maybe we should figure out how to serve low sugar chocolate milk and get the best of both worlds.

  40. stanner says:

    All I know is that the kid in the photo still drinks whole milk, sometimes with chocolate, and is a svelte and active 6 year old now.

  41. Phil Villakeepinitrreal says:

    There are ways around this whole debate. Personally, I don’t like the taste of normal milk. It’s fine on cereal and in things like oatmeal, but I can’t drink it straight.

    Meanwhile, chocolate milk is too sugary (I’m diabetic, and it costs me extra insulin to drink), and sugarfree powders never mix well and give an unpleasantly grainy texture.

    Thankfully these days we have products like Hood’s Calorie Countdown milks, and I can have chocolate milk that has less sugar and a way lower calorie count than even plain 2%.

  42. Clyde Barrow says:

    typical. more boomer ideas that completely disregard history. how is chocolate milk the issue? it isn’t. it never has been. i drank all those years growing up; not one of us got fat or lazy because of it or got sick. for generations kids have been drinking chocolate milk but now it’s bad? BS. where did the “new” data that the nutritionists now have come from? Just because they think “it”, does not mean “it” is correct. this is another attempt at controlling those that they wish to control without any true solutions.

    • dolemite says:

      Indeed…everyone wants to attack symptoms or tangents, but never the actual problem. You can eat WHATEVER you want, if you are smart about it. The ONLY reason people are obese is they ingest more calories than they burn. Why attack certain foods? Soda, chocolate milk, double cheeseburgers, snickers are completely fine foods. You just can’t eat all of the above in one day then go watch 6 hours of tv.

      Lets take away all enjoyable things because some people abuse them.

  43. markmark says:

    Considering all the other terrible things that our schools now feed to our kids, the milk debate is but a drop in the bucket.
    Trust me when I say, pack your kids lunch!

  44. gedster314 says:

    I think chocolate milk should be the least of our worries. When it’s served it’s only in 8 floz containers and generally limited to 1 per meal. It’s better for them then some juices or a soda.

    I think the food should be a bigger worry. It’s all highly processed. The kitchen staff general do not cook but reheat. It’s all the equivalent of TV dinners. And what do they serve? Macaronni and cheese swimming in crappy over processed cheese flavored goo, pizza drowned in artificially flavored cheese and some fatty meat substitute that’s claimed to be pepperoni, prefried chicken thats frozen and contains more fat and breading then meat, those premade Smuckers grilled cheese sandwiches with a 1/4 lbs if cheese, premade Smuckers PB&J sandwiches with just as much jelly in them and if their lucky a wilted premade iceberg lettuce salad that came from a bag that was packaged two weeks prior. Schools are on a tight budget and tend to buy cheap food which happens to be made from subsidized corn and soy products. The exact same stuff as fast food is made from.

    Their after school snacks and lack of activities are just as responsible. I believe the parents are more responsible for the obesity problem then the schools. Parents can always send the kid to school with a sack lunch. If the kid is only exposed to healthy eating at home chances are they will continue to eat healthy at school.

  45. Jemaine says:

    I’m glad I am out of school; I would die from dehydration if we didn’t have chocolate milk, but that is if I bought the nasty school food.

    We had a choice of whole milk, 1% or 2% milk (not sure which one), chocolate milk, and some kind of funky juice stuff.
    When we made it to 5th grade we could buy tea and sweet tea, and then in high school, we could buy sodas.

    I always brought my lunch from 2nd grade and up and only brought sweet tea, up until Jr. high, i brought sodas until I graduated high school.

    I’m not overweight, I’m not skinny, I’m not in super shape either; but I have been the same since 9th grade and now I’m 23, so I don’t think it has anything to do with drinking chocolate milk.

  46. Anne Boleyn says:

    I hate the taste of milk. HATE IT. As in, if I drink a cup of plain old milk I gag and barf. Always have, ever since I was about three years old. Drinking chocolate milk (and putting it in cereal) was the only way to get me to drink milk when I was a wee one, all through high school.

    So yeah, I definitely fall into the “if the milk isn’t chocolate flavored they won’t drink it at all” camp. I know I am not the only one.

  47. El_Fez says:

    Yeah, they need to cut all that shit out. Constant sugar/soda/empty calorie intake is doing some serious damage – I know, I’m going down to the gym EVERY day to try and reverse the years of bad nutritional habits.

    Drink water. Sodas should be a RARE treat.

  48. A.Mercer says:

    I remember the first time I had chocolate milk. I was in first grade and in the lunch line. The lady at the end of the line asked me what kind of milk I wanted. I was like “What kind of milK? There are different kinds?”. I grew up in the country and kind of poor so I did not get many fancy perks. The lady said they had chocolate milk. Ok, now I am on board. Chocolate milk? What a wonderful age we live in? I sat down, opened it up and took a big gulp. Remember, I grew up without having too much in the way of sweets. That stuff was way too sweet for me. I could not swallow it. There was a mess involved. It was like trying to drink syrup (to me at least). I did not try another taste of it for like 10 years. Even today, I am not too big on chocolate milk.

  49. 4Real says:

    I only drank chocolate milk at school all my years and I wasnt fat. Its the soda and snack cakes the kids eat now.

  50. bcsus83 says:

    Personally, I’ve never liked the taste or smell of milk. The only milk I have ever willingly drank has been chocolate. If it wasn’t offered in the lunchroom at school when I was a kid, I would have likely either brought something significantly less healthy from home to drink or skipped the drink with lunch all together.

    Offering chocolate milk in the lunchrooms isn’t a huge deal, and in my opinion, it’s better kids that might be like I was/am get the nutrition of milk with a bit of added sugar than not at all.

  51. dru_zod says:

    I have no problem with making school lunches healthier, but I do have an issue with people who suggest that school lunches, especially a single part of those lunches, like chocolate milk, are making kids obese. In North Carolina, a school year is 180 days. The only meals you can get at school are breakfast and lunch. Let’s assume that your average kid eats 3 meals a day, every day; that’s 1095 meals in a calendar year. When I was in school, most kids only ate lunch at school, and if that’s the case you’re getting 180 meals at school in a year, which is about 16% of the year’s meals. If a kid eats breakfast and lunch every day, they still only eat 360 meals at school a year, which is just 32 (almost 33) percent of their yearly meals. So this average kid eats 84% or 68% of all meals consumed in a year away from school. So…doesn’t it make sense that if a kid gets fat, there’s a lot better chance that the stuff he/she is consuming outside of school is the cause, not what he/she is eating in the cafeteria?

  52. Ard says:

    From personal experience, and from what I’ve seen in others around me, taking a food and putting a ‘special’ tag on it by making it a rare treat or banning it all together attaches special feelings to it or makes that food highly appealing.

    For example, my mother-in-law. She has no self control what-so-ever. When she was growing up things like sweets and chocolate milk were rare special occasion treats where she went to school. As an adult she still holds on to those things as special treats and eats/drinks them to make herself feel better when she’s depressed, stressed or simply because she has the power to consume them any time she wants now that she’s an adult. Years ago while I was still in school she actually ate my, later to be, husband’s entire birthday sheet-cake all, but the two pieces that he and I ate, by herself in the span of 2 days. It wasn’t a small cake either and, in fact, was one of the larger sizes you can buy from a store. Her diets never last more than a week but she’s claims she’s on them for months. I’ll just leave it at ‘she is very very overweight’ and it’s not genetic.

    As for myself, growing up I was given choices about what I ate. Eventually I tried new, healthier, things and preferred them of the less healthy options because I saw family members enjoying them. I was never told that I should like this or that because it was good for me. I was never forced to eat something that I didn’t like. I was allowed to grow into healthier flavors instead of being turned off to them for the rest of my life because after being forced to eat them before my palette was ready. Before I graduated high school I was picking out the healthier foods from the menu and taking plain white milk all on my own, without prodding, because I liked it more and I felt empowered in being able to chose for myself. I weigh 120lbs. My mom actually turned me off to alcohol for life using that method backwards. She found the worst tasting crap she could and let me taste a drop when I was about 10. I’m 24 now and I still can’t stand even the smell of alcohol in any strength and I simply can’t be around someone if they’re drinking as the smell makes me physically ill.

    In making these foods special instead of giving them choices you’re only hurting these kids in the long run. Ultimately the weight of responsibility rests on the parents.

    I’m pretty certain that if you go to anyone who is over weight because of choice instead of genetics you’ll find this to be true in most all of them.

    • Willnet says:

      Seemed to work on me. As a kid my grandparents always cooked delicious foods from their garden and it was all veggies. I think what got me into eating healthy was that I was growing so fast and was always extremely hungry. Like bottomless pit foaming at the mouth at the smell of a country dinner cooking in the kitchen. A cookie/ candy/ sweets did not cut it. I could feel it in my body that I needed nutrients. Why would someone want bad foods when they eat a colorful variety of fruits, veggies, dairy, and meats every meal? Maybe its just my taste buds or something.

  53. chefguru says:

    The poll answers on this page are very skewed for a couple of reasons. Foremost being that the reasons kids didn’t get fat from decades of having chocolate milk at lunch (also considering school lunches USED to be more fattening) is because kids used to be more active, and have recess during school. Nowadays, kids come home from school, and sit down to play video games and watch TV. 20 years ago, kids came home from school, and went out to run around and be active for 4 hours.

    THAT’S why kids didn’t get fat from sugary drinks back in the day.

  54. veg-o-matic says:

    I don’t know, maybe the dairy industry shouldn’t be so cozy with our public schools in the first place.

  55. Mr.Grieves says:

    Yes, it is 100% better for you than drinking the empty calories of pop, plus it doesn’t destroy your teeth. If they remove chocolate milk, might as well remove pop from all school vending machines.

  56. u1itn0w2day says:

    It’s called exercise. It’s called burning more calories than you take in. It’s called educating the students to that fact. You need many of the nutrients in choclate milk along with the other stuff in it. You also need calories to survive. Before you know it will have schools full of barfing anoerexic, weight obessed students looking like crack heads on the street because some nanny stater assumes they know better.

  57. psm321 says:

    Yes

  58. pinkbunnyslippers says:

    When parents stop taking their kids to Starbucks for 1500-calorie Frappucinos, then maybe we can stop serving chocolate milk. Until then, let’s all take a step back and realize it’s not things like chocolate milk making our kids fat.

  59. thrillhouse says:

    Bubblegum-flavoured milk worked on me for a while in elementary school … until I (and everyone else) realized it tasted like crap. It quickly disappeared from the market.

    Plus, screw chocolate — everyone knows that banana-flavoured milk is clearly superior.

    • Willnet says:

      Yeah they should introduce those ultra pasteurized milks in different flavors. Strawberry, banana, chocolate…

  60. AngryK9 says:

    Laziness makes people fat, not chocolate milk.

  61. Willnet says:

    Does milk have sugar added? I mean, I’m looking at my gallon of 2% (not chocolate) HEB milk and it says 11g of sugar/ cup.

  62. Minj says:

    I love chocolate milk. It’s one of the best post-exercise drinks there is. At the Olympics, they go through huge quantities of it.

  63. Levk says:

    this is real dumb I ate lunch food for years and did not get fat really this thing that these people have is false but whatever they wasting time and money and making things hard for everyone

  64. Cantras says:

    In my experience, the milk at school had a seriously off taste — from sitting in a cardboard box, from sitting in the same cooler as all the other foods, from being transfered to the cooler where we get the milk at lunch (which is sitting open for the 2 and a half hours of three consecutive lunch periods). When there was no chocolate milk, a lot of the kids took water or went to the vending machines.

    You can take the vending machines out, ban them from bringing their own drinks… but if you want them to drink healthy milk, make the chocolate milk healthier.

  65. Sydney2PR says:

    Wouldn’t it be easier to just tell the kids “This is what’s on offer for you, take it or leave it?”

    We have to stop bribing the kids to eat healthy, because it’s creating a mentality that children will believe that they can eat only what they like, not what they are told to eat. If there’s no flavored milk, kids should suck it up and drink whats on offer.

    I didn’t get to negotiate with my parents over milk or vegetables. Why should kids these days have the privilege of doing so?

  66. shenaniganz08 says:

    Id say no

    chocolate milk gives a kid the same calories as a box of milk + box of orange juice

    its just too much :/

  67. Carlee says:

    When I was in school, we got either chocolate milk or white milk. I think the chocolate milk was 2% (which is the type of milk I drank at home, albeit not chocolate flavored) and the white milk was either skim or whole. I don’t remember which one it was, but I remember one time I had to drink it because they had no chocolate milk and it was disgusting.

    If they had 2% white milk instead of chocolate milk, I guess I would drink it. But if they only have the skim or whole white milk and nothing else, blech – forget it. I’ll just drink the tiny carton of orange juice. We didn’t have sodas – there were vending machines but they were locked up until after school.

    Ideally, they should find a way to make chocolate milk without all the sugar/HFCS (or at least, less of it). I doubt kids will drink milk if it’s just plain white milk (regardless if it’s skim, whole or 2%).

  68. naughtypundit says:

    I think milk is overrated. Nothing more than a dairy racket. I remember crying as a kid in elementary school because the dairy-funded “nutritionist” would make me drink milk even though I hated it. When my mom complained, they pretty much accused her of being a bad mother. He Will Conform!

  69. pegasi says:

    chocolate milk in general isn’t a bad thing, if they’d do away with the varieties that have high fructose corn syrup in them. Make the chocolate milk with a small amount of real sugar, cocoa, etc, so that it’s at least healthier in content.

    High fructose corn syrup doesn’t belong in anything we eat, and we need to get food manufacturers to stop using this waste product of a corn processing process, that they discovered is a cheap sweetener, which is bad for us because it fools the brain’s “i’m full sensor” into thinking we’re still hungry, so that we eat more than we should.

    If you eat products WITHOUT HFCS in it, you eat less, because your “i’m full” sensor works properly, and you consume smaller quantities. I lost some weight just by cutting out HFCS from my diet and making an effort to watch portion sizes, not by changing anything else I ate.

  70. pot_roast says:

    Yes, especially since current research has shown there are health benefits to it.

    http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20100604/chocolate-milk-refuels-muscles-after-workout

    I’m ok with it. Besides, the nearby high school has a Pizza Hut and a Subway. What harm is a little chocolate milk?

  71. Horselady says:

    Yes, definitely,
    Kids do not get enough SUGAR in their diet yet……….

  72. 4thMeal says:

    I miss school lunches. We had a great cafeteria, and I ate pizza pretty much every day. I also was on the football team and had a PE class. Therefore, I wasn’t fat (and I don’t have a high metabolism at all).

    The reasons kids are fat:

    1. Their parents are fat (good role models)
    2. They sit on their fat asses and don’t do anything. Why? See number 1.
    3. Their parents don’t tell them they need to lose weight. I mean, that would just break little Timmy’s heart. Timmy is 14, tell him to grow a pair and go outside.

    Try this. Tell your kids the truth. If they decide they still want to eat bad food, be fat and eventually die from it, so be it, that’s there problem.

  73. Moosenogger says:

    Believe me, the last thing making kids fat is school lunch. If parents are worried about their kid’s health, then they shouldn’t take them to McDonald’s every night for dinner.

  74. Moosenogger says:

    I remember working with my mother in the church Sunday School program a few years ago. One girl (who was already pretty obese for a child) came in late with her breakfast. It was a McDonald’s breakfast meal (of course), and she ate what amounted to 1000 calories in a single sitting. I was flabbergasted.

    This is why children are fat. Their parents don’t teach them good eating habits and aren’t buying decent food for their children. It’s hard for the schools to compete and offer relatively healthy food when kids have a taste for fast food and other greasy junk. It’s hard to please the masses and impossible to please everyone. The only way I’ve seen it work is for the school to offer two different main meals and several sides, so the students still have a choice. They can choose the pizza if they want, but they can also have a chicken sandwich or salad.

  75. Razor512 says:

    In schools, chocolate must be added to cover up the awful taste of the watered down rat milk. Adding black spots to a white rat does not make it into a cow, but to the schools, it does.