Walmart Spends $2 Million To Avoid Paying $7,000 Fine

Talk about sticking to your principles. Rather than simply pay a $7,000 fine stemming from the Black Friday trampling death of a store employee, Walmart has racked up at least $2 million in legal costs to prove their point.

The $7,000 fine from OSHA pales in comparison to the $400,000 fund Walmart established after the incident for customers injured in the incident, or the $1.5 million it donated to community programs in Nassau County, NY, where the trampling occurred.

But by paying the OSHA fine, Walmart feels it would be conceding that “crowd trampling” as an occupational hazard.

Officials at OSHA say they have already logged 4,725 hours of work by employees in their legal office on just this fine.

Following the incident, in which a Walmart employee died from asphyxiation as a crowd of 2,000 crazed shoppers stormed the store for Black Friday savings, OSHA said the retail giant failed to provide a place of employment that was “free from recognized hazards,” and that Walmart violated its “general duty” to employees by failing to take adequate steps to protect them from a situation that was “likely to cause death or serious physical harm” because of “crowd surge or crowd trampling.”

In response, Walmart calls the whole situation an “unforeseeable incident.”

Explains a Walmart Exec, who wants to roll back the OSHA fine:

OSHA wants to hold Walmart accountable for a standard that was neither proposed nor issued at the time of the incident,… The citation has far-reaching implications for the retail industry that could subject retailers to unfairly harsh penalties and restrictions on future sales promotions.

OSHA freely admits that it is looking to set precedent with this fine. If a crazed mob of shoppers can be deemed an occupational hazard, then retailers will have to take steps to make sure their employees are safe.

Wal-Mart Fighting $7,000 Fine in Trampling Case [NY Times]

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  1. socritic says:

    i’ve never shopped at a walmart. nuf said.

  2. Murph1908 says:

    I have one simple question?

    What charges have been filed against the people who did the stampeding?

    The answer might satisfy me, but I am doubtful.

    • pantheonoutcast says:

      You’ve made the mistake of assuming that they were human. Civilized humans don’t act like that.

      • YouDidWhatNow? says:

        You’ve made the mistake of assuming that humans are civilized.

        • pantheonoutcast says:

          That’s funny, I never heard of anyone getting trampled to death at Nordstrom’s or Bloomingdale’s.

          • DavidCopperballs says:

            You’ve made the mistake of assuming there would be enough people to step over to buy a $175 dress shirt.

            • pantheonoutcast says:

              People do not get into fistfights at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse. But they do at Burger King. No one punches out the cashier at Whole Foods, but its seems to happen at Costco. They don’t trample each other to death at Macy’s, but they do at Walmart. Provide products and services for the lowest common denominator, and you get the behavior of the lowest common denominator.

              • Blitzgal says:

                Yeah, we get your point. Poor people are garbage.

              • craptastico says:

                it’s funny you say that because i saw 2 old guys come pretty close at a Ruth’s Chris near me. of course i live in NJ, so that may have had an influence

              • drjayphd says:

                I’m going to the nearest Whole Foods and decking the cashier solely to disprove your point. :)

              • gopena says:

                I think that it’s sad to say, but true that people that belong to the group that would be referrred to as the lowest common demoniator would rightly have more things to be angry at (namely, the people with better means)

              • rockasocky says:

                I did have an old man tell me to “Hurry the f*** up or get the hell out” while I was in line at Whole Foods. Because I had the audacity to, um, want to pay for things.

    • Hi_Hello says:

      I wished they rounded everyone up, look through the camera and charge everyone who trample on that guy.

      • splendic says:

        No few people “trample” someone to death in a large crowd.

        People push from all over. Sometimes just trying get away from the crowd, and as the weight of hundreds, or thousands, of people pushes against you, your feet are going to move too.

        Or your going to be the next one on the ground. And if it’s that bad, you won’t be able to get back up.

        So you charge every person in that crowd, which would accomplish nothing, or you charge the party responsible for creating the conditions that led to such a dangerous situation.

  3. SerenityDan says:

    It sickens me to say this but I kind of agree with Walmart. If there is no rule about it in OSHA laws then make one and then fine them if they don’t follow it. Laws are not retro active.

    • sagodjur says:

      You can’t legislate every possible scenario. Some things are logical, like the necessity of safeguarding your employees and customers in a frantic holiday shopping environment. This wasn’t the first time someone has been injured on Black Friday due to the crowds.

      • Big Mama Pain says:

        Exactly, so why wasn’t there precedent set before now? It was only after this poor guy died that all of these stupid dept. stores cleaned up their Black Friday act. I doubt that a $7,000 fine is really what made people step and take notice.

        Walmart isn’t trying to shirk it’s responsibilities for what it did; it just doesn’t want to be liable for the animal behavior of its customers. And while there’s a GREAT argument for why they SHOULD (as Pantheon pointed out, you reap what you sow), that’s not really in OSHA’s scope.

      • cowboyesfan says:

        Canceling Thanksgiving would probably do the trick.

    • jsl4980 says:

      I’m behind Walmart on this one too. Being trampled by crazed idiots is not common it’s definitely unforeseeable. That one incident should be more than enough for stores to address these issues themselves without the need for more regulations.

      OSHA (part of the Department of Labor) is taking advantage this person’s death to extend their power and reach.

      • kujospam says:

        But now, it is no longer unforseeable, so now you can fine them as much as you like.

    • Randell says:

      The part you fail to realize is Wal Mart created the situation they put their employee in. The precedence dates back to the 70′s. Recall The Who concert in Cincinnati. Wal Mart could have hired security to make things orderly. They could have had ropes and stantions to have the flow of crowd be much more uniform, instead of a survival of the fittest to get to the LIMITED items on sale. Wal Mart wanted to create as much anticipation and excitement to incite a fury. It would be similar to putting a million dollars on the ground and saying, the first one to get there, gets to keep it.

      • sendmoney2me says:

        I believe there were off duty cops there as security

      • Conformist138 says:

        Agreed. Crowds at these kinds of events are not just a known danger, they are an obvious danger that flashes neon lights. Anyone, be it a retail giant or a bunch of rock stars, should be aware of what can happen when large groups of people get overexcited and need to get from point A to point B. The group mentality too often overwhelms individuals until the stampede resembles wild animals more than humans. Again, seeing as this is not a newly-discovered behavioral quirk, this incident is not one that should be excused. Crowd control can be a big undertaking that can go terribly wrong if not done right; Walmart cut corners and someone died. Just pay the fine.

        I’m really curious what will happen if that 1,000,000-member class action suit finally makes it to court for real. If Walmart won’t part with $7,000, what will they do with the largest suit of it’s kind in US history?

    • RvLeshrac says:

      This is not the first time that an employee or customer has been trampled to death, or been severely injured, by a crowd of idiots bursting through the doors.

      The premise has even been used in commercials. Wal-Mart is claiming to be completely unaware that this issue would arise.

  4. Murph1908 says:

    Gah, apparently I have one simple question, and one simple statement disguised to look like a question.

  5. obits3 says:

    On the one hand I can see how OSHA’s point: we don’t want employees to be squashed. On the other hand, how is it Walmart’s fault that a croud of people rush in like a street riot? Would Walmart have to be ready for this type of rush 365 days a year?

    • Oranges w/ Cheese says:

      IIRC, it was because the doors collapsed and the employee was under the doors and the unexpected flow of people.

      So 1) They failed to maintain crowd control which led to an unsafe work environment
      2) They failed to ensure the doors would safely restrain the people waiting outside which caused them to break and injure and kill a worker.

      If that isn’t an OSHA violation I dunno what is.

      • RadarOReally has got the Post-Vacation Blues says:

        Exactly. I don’t think you can expect OSHA to spell out every specific event that might occur, but I’m sure there is wording in the legislation to cover creating a safe environment to the extent it’s forseeable and possible. This was both.

        • craptastico says:

          i don’t know that i’d call this forseeable. i don’t remember it ever happening before where there is such a stampede of people that the stores front doors collapse

          • 44Wadeable says:

            It may well have happened before, but if there were no serious injuries, there probably was no serious press. Having worked in a retail environment previously, I’m reasonably sure that violence happens in retail establishments on Black Friday every year, and a retailer like Wal-Mart would be dumb not to expect any kind of violence. This was just an exceptionally tragic case, and the issue finally got press.

          • Conformist138 says:

            Maybe in a retail setting there hasn’t been a big issue, but it’s been pointed out several times that The Who concert in the 70s put the issue of crowd control front and center. Walmart wanted excitement, they wanted people to be pumped and showing up early, they wanted, essentially, to be retail rock gods for a day. They promoted the same feeling, the same energy, and the same mentality. Even though I find it stupid to get excited over cheap crap sold cheaper, the fact is a lot of people do. Any idiot with even the tiniest understanding of people and security would have treated this situation with extreme caution. People are unpredictable, especially in large groups.

    • ARP says:

      The whole point of OSHA stanards is to have a (relatively) safe work environment. Wal-mart failed to do that, even though others were ultimately the source of the injury. It’s like having a single exit in a large stadium and then blaming the patrons when people get hurt during a fire. The employer can’t predict every way a person might get hurt on the job, but should cover the common (and reasonably foreseeable) ones.

    • dg says:

      Well, it’s Wal-Mart’s fault because they offered the sale with extremely limited quantities designed to “froth up” the crowd so as many people as possible would come as early as possible. They didn’t stagger admission – as rock concerts have done ever since trampling issues at their venues. They didn’t have a remote release on the door (and it didn’t even have to anything more than a board thru the handles with a rope tied to it…

      There’s so many things they could have done to mitigate or reduce the dangers. And this is WallyWorld folks, they’re not some 24-hr halloween store that went into business for the day. They’ve got 4000 stores, they know what’s going to happen or SHOULD know and reasonably expect what’s going to happen.

      I’d start inspecting EVERY store they had – one right after the other until they relented on this issue. Simple as that – one good turn deserves another.

  6. denros says:

    “In response, Walmart calls the whole situation an “unforeseeable incident.”

    yeah, who can predict WHEN and WHERE black friday will strike! It’s not like it’s the same…. F#%! it. I can’t even pretend to sarcastically defend this logic. Reading that sentence to most species of monkey is insulting to simian intelligence.

    • TommyFeds says:

      The lines and masses may not be unforeseeable. The animals in line willing the trample a human being for a cheap toaster however is unforeseeable.

      • Rectilinear Propagation says:

        No it’s not. This is not the first time people have gotten violent during a Black Friday sale and it’s not the first time someone has been injured by a Black Friday crowd. This is unusual in that someone actually died but people getting trampled happens every year.

        • Keavy_Rain says:

          Exactly. Every year I hear stories about people being hurt at Black Friday sales, which is why I avoid them unless the deal is insanely good (2003 Black Friday when I got a GameCube and five games for $99 and an Xbox with three games for $99).

          I’m not sure what the solution is, though. We, as a society, crave these insane deals and retailers want our money. Maybe a lottery system for the deals?

      • Brunette Bookworm says:

        True, but this was not the first case of someone being injured at Walmart and not the first trampling. A year before a woman was injured but not killed. If Walmart had previous problems yet failed to address or correct the hazards, then OSHA certainly does have a case.

        http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=96063

        The people who broke the door down are also at fault but retail stores have some requirements to protect their employees from customers. Look at places that put in bullet proof glass. The person who would use the gun is the criminal but since it’s a hazard that is known, the company puts in safety measures to mitigate danger to its employees.

      • Daniellethm says:

        Have you ever been to a Wal-Mart? Nearly every person in that store is a F***ing animal, from the screaming uncontrollable little brats, to the overly obese people who think it’s a damn disability to be so fat and have to “drive” themselves around the store, because they’re too fat to get up and walk to buy more food.

        I live in the midwest, this is shockingly common.

        Also: Wal-Mart should not be a dangerous job, they don’t get paid enough to risk life and limb, and the way they open the doors and let the stampede of sheep consumers in, screaming “Cheeeeap is GoOoOD”(Typed in how I believe sheep-people would sound ;D ) led to a dangerous situation, a completely preventable one at that.

    • dorianh49 says:

      Yes, it’s true. I want to walk like you. Talk like you. Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh.

    • nbs2 says:

      Thousands of retailers have BF sales every year, and yet this event was noteworthy because it was exceptional. I would agree on its unforeseeability.. If OSHA wants to create a new standard, fine. But don’t create one retroactively.

  7. Dr.Wang says:

    Only in NY!

  8. Loias supports harsher punishments against corporations says:

    Although I agree with OSHA and not with Walmart, I completely understand Walmart’s purpose here.

    Legally, they need to set precedence on their own enforcement of this “hazard.” If they simply paid the fine, it would set a precedent that this is indeed a punishable offense, and Walmart will never again be able to fight it (because they set the precedent that they agree it’s a hazard).

    It’s the same reason copyright holders fight the slightest similarity of their product. If they don’t, the courts may view this as the company not caring about defending their brand. It’s really a terrible part of the legal system, as it forces multiple unnecessary lawsuits in order to protect potential legitimate lawsuits later on.

    • Greenbird says:

      People like you are the reason we have moronic Imaginary Property laws encroaching on our freedoms. Please learn the difference between Trade Marks, Copyright and Patents. Your statements demonstrate that you have no clue as to the difference between copyright and trade marks.

    • Caffinehog says:

      +1

      I guess SOMEONE in here understands the legal system. A first for consumerist!

      • dreamking says:

        Conflating copyrights with trademarks is incorrect. There are entirely different rules behind both, and entirely different sets of motivations and strategies.

  9. mikeyz says:

    OSHA has logged 4,725 hours on this case. At $30 an hour, couldn’t this headline just as easily have been “OSHA spends $141K of Taxpayer money to collect $7K fine!”?

    • MauraGrowf says:

      Hear hear!

    • ARP says:

      Nice try.

      So if a person steals a TV, we should not prosecute because it would cost more to prosecute than the value of the item stolen?

      Often there is a greater principle at stake than the pure economic value of the claim or fine.

      • Rectilinear Propagation says:

        So if a person steals a TV, we should not prosecute because it would cost more to prosecute than the value of the item stolen?

        There’s actually a lot of people here who’d argue exactly that. Check out the comments the next time an old man steals a steak.

        • Difdi says:

          On the other hand, a bullet is much cheaper than a TV. Perhaps they might consider that a fitting punishment?

      • mikeyz says:

        No, but I don’t think WalMart should be ridiculed for what they are doing, either.

    • CaptCynic says:

      I’m with you on this one… I think the dangerous thing from OSHA is this statement “OSHA freely admits that it is looking to set precedent with this fine.”

      If they want to create a legal basis for forcing employers to do whatever they think it would take to prevent this kind of thing in the future, they should lobby congress to pass a law that covers the situation and defines what actions employers are required to take. Sounds to me like they’re just pushing the envelope of their mandate.

    • maztec says:

      $30/hr? For their attorneys? More like $80/hr or more.

  10. Oranges w/ Cheese says:

    “OSHA wants to hold Walmart accountable for a standard that was neither proposed nor issued at the time of the incident”

    I beg to differ – its called common sense and common fucking human decency.

  11. CaptCynic says:

    I’m going to side with the dark one.. uh, I mean Wal-Mart here. If they don’t fight this, they’re essentially openning the door for a stampede of lawsuits. I once read that walmart fights every legal challenge aggressively since they are such a huge target with very deep pockets. Basically, if they don’t fight every lawsuit and challenge, they become prey for every two-bit scam artist and ambulance chaser in the country.

    As for this being an unforseeable accident. I think it’s absurd to hold Walmart liable for the idiotic behavior of a moron who wants a cheap tv on black friday. Perhaps they could modify how entry to the store works, but should they seriously expect people to trample someone to get in? We humans exhibit all kinds of mob mentality, but only the idiots who partake are to blame. Will we start to sue sports teams for winning or losing because their fans riot outside the stadium and loot businesses?

    That said, I think we should kill the entire concept of the “doorbuster” on black friday. They’re practically a scam since they only have a couple in stock.

    • pantheonoutcast says:

      “If they don’t fight this, they’re essentially opening the door for a stampede of lawsuits.”

      Interesting choice of words…

    • kmw2 says:

      Walmart encourages the behavior of “idiot morons who want a cheap TV on Black Friday”. It’s neither unexpected nor unprecedented that tons of people would line up outside a Walmart store and then rush in the second the doors opened – it happens every year, at every Walmart, because of the way the sales are structured. That it went wrong this time isn’t a surprise – what’s surprising is that it’s never happened (to the point of actually killing someone) before.

    • TasteyCat says:

      Internet doorbusters FTW.

  12. Jason says:

    But think of all the savings for future tramplings if Walmart can avert these $7,000 fines. They can have 286 tramplings this Black Friday and will be back in the black.

  13. coren says:

    I don’t agree that this is unforseeable – people know how Black Friday is. People do not behave in a rational manner at all on this day.

    That being said, being trampled under a store’s door shouldn’t be considered an occupational hazard either – that’s fucking ridiculous. Does that mean that getting gunned down by an enraged *insert whatever group here* is also on occupational hazard, given that getting shot in the work place happens far more often?

    • Blitzgal says:

      Most people who are shot are at work? I doubt that’s true.

    • Rectilinear Propagation says:

      Does that mean that getting gunned down by an enraged *insert whatever group here* is also on occupational hazard

      I think the word you’re looking for is ‘person’. Possibly co-worker/thief but person works.

  14. GuyGuidoEyesSteveDaveâ„¢ says:

    Wow, not even a mention of Jdimypai Damour’s name? We can’t/shouldn’t forget his name, because we all had a hand in his death.

    • madanthony says:

      I didn’t. I do my black friday shopping online.

      • GuyGuidoEyesSteveDaveâ„¢ says:

        It’s still part of the whole Black Friday deal, online or not. Even I had a hand in it, and I just buy House on DVD.

    • MauriceCallidice says:

      No, I really didn’t.

      Thank you, come again.

    • whogots is "not computer knowledgeable" says:

      Not “we all”. We some of us. We y’all.

      I still basically agree with you, though, that Jdimypai Damour’s name should be used in these stories.

  15. dabarak says:

    That would explain the lack of a nose on the Walmart face – it was cut off in spite.

  16. Economists Do It With Models says:

    Wow. i never thought I would agree with Wal-Mart on anything…but yeah, people stampeding over the opportunity to save $10 on their flat-screen TVs isn’t really Wal-Mart’s fault. If it was, then a solution could be “make your stuff less tantalizingly cheap,” and that doesn’t help things overall…

  17. Hardwired says:

    I haven’t shopped at Walmart or Sam’s in years. I’m doing my part. I guess…

  18. npage148 says:

    They know about the crowds that develop on Black Friday and they know about near misses in teh past (I’m sure 100′s we never heard of) so they should have made a safer work environment. If this includes hiring security firms to work crowd control then so be it. They can’t play ignorant because of whats happen in the past and their willful encouragement of it

  19. dolemite says:

    Considering that there are huge crazy crowds every year, at most retailers, I’d think stampeding is not an “unforeseeable event”. Get a few police to monitor everything.

  20. Randell says:

    This falls under screaming fire in a crowded theater. Imagine putting 100 bags with $1000 in each bag in the center of WalMart. Wal Mart sets up no ground rules or security. It was forseeable that people would be trampled. In fact, it was not only forseeable, it was PREDICTABLE.

    If you do not think so, ask yourself this question. “BEFORE, this happened, did it ever occur somebody could get killed at a Black Friday event?” If you have ever been to one, the only honest answer is yes, it was forseeable, and predictable.

  21. jim says:

    accepting and paying a fine opens them up to unlimited liability actions, so this is not a clear cut issue.

  22. Jemaine says:

    I believe this is almost going to stop me from shopping at Walmart. I say almost because there are just some things one cannot find at Walmart.

  23. UnicornMaster says:

    I’m sure paying the fine would have been used in a civil case for the death of the trampled employee, which probably would have resulted in more than $2Million.

    • RandomHookup says:

      Perhaps there should be a option similar to “no contest” plea…basically, “I’m not admitting guilt, I just want this thing over with.”

  24. Big Ant says:

    I don’t see what more Walmart could have done when the people actually busted the door. If they had security what could the security have done? They could have tased and/shot the crowd in which case the headline is: “Walmart tases/open fires on a crowd.”

    If they refused to open the crowd would have rioted outside in which case the headline could be: “Walmart causes death of customer by not opening at it posted time”

    They could have installed a checkpoint with metal detectors or a turnstyle to go in single file, but in this case the crowd broke the door, I don’t think this would have hindered the crowd and done anything besides making more things that could break/fall over trapping people to be killed.

    In this case I think the only people at fault are the people who did the trampling/breaking the doors. It is the polices job to handle riots and if they are not going to be there to control crowds then they should pass laws allowing Walmart to have armed guards with the power to use tasers/tear gas/etc to control the crowd if they get out of control. A couple of walmart security guards with instructions of “Don’t touch anyone only call police if physical force is needed” are not going to do anything against a crowd that breaks downs doors and runs over employees.

    • pantheonoutcast says:

      “Walmart open fires on a crowd” is the kind of headline we’ll be seeing in the not-too-distant, bleak, dystopian future.

      And they’ll be using Google-brand laser guns.

      I can’t wait.

  25. SilverBlade2k says:

    talk about killing a fly with a nuclear explosion..

  26. shepd says:

    Well, I’m normally a WalMart defender, but this is just plain wrong. Even if the guy was told by WalMart to do the job differently to stop this from happening, you can’t deny someone this just because they don’t follow the rules. Well, not until it happens AFTER they’re fired, anyways.

  27. hansolo247 says:

    2.36 man-years?

    I call bull. Sure, 2.36 man-years may have been charged to the effort, but I seriously doubt 2.36 people worked all year, every day, every hour on this stupid effort.

  28. yankinwaoz says:

    Getting trampled to death at work is NOT a normal occupational hazard. Walmart is right on that point.

  29. brinks says:

    I worked at Staples as a manager for two Black Fridays. When I started, it was their first year of issuing tickets for limited-quantity ad items that day. Say you have 20 GPS units at an insanely low price. You have 20 tickets for that item. Only people with tickets can get that GPS.

    About an hour before the store opens, and about 2 hours after all the crazies start lining up outside, store management hands out ad flyers and explains to customers that these items are limited quantity, first come, first serve, and one per customer. They are given the ad and a pencil to circle what they want. When the store opens, management lets them in a few at a time, where two associates are seated at a table, taking the ads from the customers and handing them a ticket for the items they circled. They are then told to proceed to the back of the store, where the merchandise is secured and will be given to them by an associate after presenting their ticket. They have until 10am to redeem their tickets, which is 4 hours after the store opens. You’d be surprised how well this works. People know right from the get-go if they’re going to get that GPS, and they can shop around for other items, too, knowing that the item they want is reserved for them. It worked amazingly well, controlled crowds and lines, and kept attitudes in check.

    By the way, Staples started this three years before anyone got trampled. As a responsible retailer, you have to assess your risks and plan accordingly. I’m not saying Walmart should have seen this coming…but Staples did, and prevented it. It wasn’t 100% Walmart’s fault, but, knowing how people tend to behave on this day, they should have taken some kind of precautions. If not a ticket system, how about more security?

  30. Powerlurker says:

    This is par for the course for WalMart, as a matter of corporate policy they’re very willing to see lawsuits all the way to a judgement instead of settling.

  31. maztec says:

    If Walmart pays the fine and does not fight it, some states will let that come in as evidence in a civil trial, where they will be paying out a lot more than $7,000. End of story.

  32. gen says:

    Walmart should be responsible of what has happened to their employee. Shoppers indeed can be deemed an occoupational hazard. Since this is an unforeseeable accident, they will have to make measures to ensure that their employees are safe especially on future sales promotions.

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  33. Tiandli says:

    Wal-mart is planning for the future. Pay a seemingly exorbitant amount now, dodge paying more later.

  34. kaltkalt says:

    Makes total sense to me. It’s an investment in letting the government know that you’re company is not going to be their cash cow by paying them every petty little fine they cite you with. If the government knows it’s gonna have to fight the charges, no matter how small, they will toss them on someone else. I totally respect walmart’s decision in this matter, I wish more people and companies would stand up to petty little crap by the government rather than just paying it to make it go away and let the bureaucrats justify their existences.

  35. areaman says:

    In response, Walmart calls the whole situation an “unforeseeable incident.”

    A self serving, shitty excuse so they can keep doing their door buster sales.

    The “incident” where someone was killed is about as unforeseeable as a dozen People of Walmart walking down the street.

  36. aleck says:

    If Walmart admits that it violated OSHA laws, they will probably have to spend many more millions on figuring out what to do about it. And every store would have to have their entrance doors rebuilt, shoppers will be lined up and let in one at a time to prevent crowding. And everybody will be wondering “What kind of idiot came up with this system?”

    I am with Walmart on this. Keep fighting OSHA. Walmart did nothing wrong here.