Parents Group To Best Buy: Move Mature-Rated Games To Higher Shelves

Advocacy group Parents Television Council says it’s a Joe Camel move to place video games intended for adults right alongside the Marios and Sonics of the world, and the group scolded Best Buy for the practice at a shareholder’s meeting last week.

“Mr. Chairman, you understand this game is rated mature and we appreciate all that Best Buy is doing to impose and enforce an age-restricted buying policy. However, I urge you to place these types of games on higher shelves and out of sight and reach of your younger customers,” said PTC Minnesota Chapter Director Phyllis Plum at the meeting, according to a PTC press release.

The PTC is famous for being clueless haters of video games, but the organization has a valid point on this matter. Retailers could take steps to keep out-of-touch parents from buying inappropriate games for their nagging kids.

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  1. tgrwillki says:

    I’m in favor of this. It’l make it easier for me to find the games I’d rather buy.

    • Griking says:

      I see nothing wrong with this.

      Actually IMO, I don’t see why kids should have access to the games at all. If the parents are the ones paying for them then lets the parents get them.

      • Kryndar says:

        I personally have no real issue with this, aside from what Keen mentioned about alphabetical sorting, so long as they do the same thing with movies, tv box sets and all other media they sell there.

      • spamtasticus says:

        ummm… really? The shelf picks what you buy your kids?

    • keen314 says:

      I’m opposed to anything that complicates the current setup of ‘all games are alphabetical’. Is there going to be a separate alphabetical sorting of all the mature titles at a high shelf?

  2. Brainswarm says:

    If they succeed on this one, what will they ask for next? Move them into a separate room behind a curtain?

    • El_Fez says:

      Heh – my local video store in the 80′s had their “special section” behind a pair of swinging doors like you’d find in an old west saloon. I always thought those were SO cool when I was growing up!

      • Keavy_Rain says:

        Oh, yes. I remember those days…

        We’d push our nerdy friend in there, then shout “Mom! (Name) went into the dirty movie section!”

    • SteveZim1017 says:

      no, next they will require all movies to be R – top shelf, PG-13 – 2nd, PG- 3rd shelf, and G on the bottem.

      after that all CDs with explicit content will be forced to the top shelf as well.

      soon after that the snacks by checkout will be organized by healthyness from highest to lowest so the kid can only reach the organic animal crackers and not the whoppers.

    • Link_Shinigami says:

      I’m down for that. Who doesn’t like partying behind a curtain? Everyone knows the best stuff happens behind them…

  3. digital0verdose says:

    Not sure how theirBB is set up but all the ones near me have games on a 4ft high shelf. Putting the M rated games higher will just put in an easy to find spot rather than keep kids from getting their hands on the,.

    • gopena says:

      I agree with this, all it will do is show kids (and sadly, parents) where to find the M-Rated games much more easily. The same can be said about cigarettes. I was always told all the things about how cigarettes were bad growing up, and I was also aware about all the movements to keep them away from regular shelves and kids, esp in supermarkets, but all I really ended up learning was that if I ever went into a supermarket to buy smokes, to just head straight to the customer service desk. Thanks, parental advocacy.

  4. punkrawka says:

    Best Buy shelves alphabetically (at least all the ones in my area do). So M-rated games show up wherever they fall in the alphabet. Please don’t make this needlessly difficult — enforce the M rating at the cashier’s desk. The box art itself is not what’s rated M. Don’t let kids wander stores unsupervised if you’re worried about what’s on the shelves.

    • pecan 3.14159265 says:

      AFAIK, all Best Buy stores shelve games alphabetically. It’s just the most common sense way of doing things.

      • The Gray Train says:

        until you realize most of the time they’re out of order from kids grabbing them to show to their parents and ask to get it, and when the parent says no they just drop it back in a random spot on a shelf.

    • MercuryPDX says:

      THIS. +1

      Congratulations, you’re a parent. Now do some parenting.

    • Supes says:

      Completely agree.

      As long as the boxes themselves aren’t incredibly offensive, it’s the job of the store to prevent underage shoppers from purchasing these games themselves, and the job of the parents to make sure they are aware of what their kids are purchasing.

      There is no reason whatsoever Best Buy should mess with their alphabetical sorting system in this case. This type of “solution” dodges the real problem: parents who don’t want to take responsibility.

      • lehrdude says:

        I don’t think it’s the store’s job…it’s the parents job. The ratings are only a guideline as to what is onside the package.

    • Brunette Bookworm says:

      I agree. Alphabetical order makes the most sense. Changing the order just complicates things. Parents, don’t buy your kids an M-rated game and then complain about the content. The ratings give at least some description why they received that rating. Keep your kids with you, don’t let pick up everything in the store. BE A PARENT!

      • jefeloco says:

        “BE A PARENT!”

        What is this crazy concept you discuss? I thought it was the responsibility of emotionally uninvolved strangers to make the best decisions for your kids.

  5. punkrawka says:

    Best Buy shelves alphabetically (at least all the ones in my area do). So M-rated games show up wherever they fall in the alphabet. Please don’t make this needlessly difficult — enforce the M rating at the cashier’s desk. The box art itself is not what’s rated M. Don’t let kids wander stores unsupervised if you’re worried about what’s on the shelves.

  6. myteebay says:

    I haven’t looked at the games in Best Buy, but I was in GameStop yesterday and their games seem to be in alphabetical order. It seems like a perfectly reasonable way to shelve games, and it makes it convenient if you are looking for a particular title.

  7. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    They’ve got it backwards. They should do what movie rental places did and have a ‘family’ section where all the games for little kids are and leave the rest of the games sorted by system in alphabetical order. Then parents looking for safe games can go straight to that section. It’s not necessary to have everything out of order.

  8. KittensRCute! says:

    is it too much to ask that parents PARENT their spawn? i mean now they want to go into stores and tell them how to do the stock? whats next, “best buy should move their pg-13 movies further away from their PG rated movies, i dont want my 12 year old seeing those suggestive movie titles?”

    • minsky says:

      +1, exactly! I’m tired of these self-righteous groups demanding companies do this or that for the sake of their stupid kids. They’re your kids, not mine, so they’re your responsibility and I or companies shouldn’t be expected to modify our ways of doing things for the sake of your kids.

    • The Gray Train says:

      or maybe people should stop bitching and feeling so self righteous. there are billions of stars in millions of galaxies, all revolving around on point in the universe; that point isn’t you.

    • Cleo256 says:

      If you go to Best Buy’s movie section, you don’t find Wall Street next to Wall-E. But you would find Gran Turismo (E-rated racing game) next to Grand Theft Auto.

      I think this is a pretty reasonable request, actually. If the kids don’t see the M-rated games while they are just browsing titles, the parents saying no doesn’t turn into a fight.

      • amuro98 says:

        The reason you don’t find Wall-E next to Wall Street in the DVD section is because movies are divided by genre first. This has nothing to do with the ratings of the movies.

        This idea makes more sense for Walmart, who has their games displayed as shown in the picture.

        Best Buy, as pointed out, puts their games in displays that are already 4 feet off the ground, and are only about 3 tall to begin with. Putting M games higher up is just a waste of time and will make things more difficult for clerks and customers alike to find anything.

    • El_Red says:

      Agree

  9. common_sense84 says:

    Best Buy shelves are 5 feet high.

    If you want to bury a game, you put it on the lowest shelf. The highest shelf has the most visibility.

    This is a case of a dumb activist group having never shopped in the store they targeted.

  10. Kopiok says:

    You know, as a gamer, this is something I can really get behind. Something small that will be effective, not too big of a demand. It’s a refreshing pace from the whole “ARGUH VIDEOGAMES IS THE DEVIL!” state of mind.

    • Salty Johnson says:

      Umm… this right here is a perfect example of “the whole “ARGUH VIDEOGAMES IS THE DEVIL!” state of mind.” The fact that they think stores completely fucking their organization methods just to have M-rated games out of the reach of three-year-olds (and nobody that’s any older) is one of the most retarded notions I’ve heard come out of one of these types of groups.

    • y2julio says:

      Please hand over you gamer card so I can cut it.

  11. wellfleet says:

    Unless 10 year-olds are making their own serious bank, they need moron parents to *pay* for these M-rated games. If parents are too clueless/uninvolved to monitor both what their children are doing inside a retail store, what they’re buying and what they’re playing, they cannot expect Best Buy to act in their place. Best Buy has age restrictions with ID requirements for all M-rated games. The cashiers are mystery-shopped by parent/child teams to enforce these rules. PTC needs to give away parent education classes…

    Besides, then you will have wheelchair-bound adults complaining that they cannot reach these games, or height-challenged adults for that matter. Not to mention that putting these games completely out of reach where no child could see them would make it difficult for staff to reach.

    • Bativac says:

      I agree. The parents are purchasing the games. Look at the game first before you pay for it. “Parent” a little bit. When I was a kid, my mom and dad both read thru comic books before I bought ‘em and kept some of the more “mature” stuff out of my hands, since they didn’t think it was appropriate. These parents should do the same if they are so concerned.

      (Like most kids, I was able to see the forbidden stuff anyway, and bartered Star Crunch cookies for enough change to pick up the latest issue of Ralph Snart Adventures.)

    • Rectilinear Propagation says:

      Unless 10 year-olds are making their own serious bank, they need moron parents to *pay* for these M-rated games.

      I think that is the most important point here. Most kids who have no business playing these games can’t afford them anyway. Those that can probably need their parents to get them to Best Buy anyway.

  12. TouchMyMonkey says:

    So warning labels and rating systems are no longer good enough. We also need a “prime directive” where children under a certain height shouldn’t be allowed to even know such games exist.

  13. Xay says:

    Or you could just tell your child no. No, you may not play Scarface. No, you may not play Hitman. No, you may not play Grand Theft Auto.

    If you can’t enforce restrictions on your kids at a store, what are they going to do when they visit a friend who is allowed to play violent games?

    • Alter_ego says:

      Haha, I was that friend. My next door neighbors would come over every weekend and play goldeneye or super smash bros. on my n64, because their parents thought they were too violent, and my parents had a much more hands off approach. As far as I know, none of us are serial killers now.

      • Xay says:

        I don’t care for violent video games (bloody violent, not Smash Bros violent), so I don’t buy or rent them. But I know that my son has friends who do so I’m not going to pretend that he will never be exposed to them – I just keep them out of the house so he doesn’t play them all the time.

    • jaya9581 says:

      This. It’s amazing how many parents refuse to say no to their children these days. My niece is used to whining until she gets her way, and it makes me pretty mad. While she’s in my care, no means no, and if that means she has a tantrum, then so be it.

      My parents were very lenient when it came to the types of games I played growing up and I plan to be the same way with my children – but no will still mean no, whether it’s a $.99 toy or a M-rated video game.

  14. Vanilla5 says:

    How about you police what your child is playing? If you don’t like it, take the game away and sell it.

    The idea that it’s less likely that they’ll buy it if it’s up higher is pretty ridiculous. Most kids know what they want when they go in anyway – all they have to do is ask for it. Do you think Best Buy really checks age when selling games? No. My younger cousin was 6’0″ at 14 and was buying Grand Theft Auto games.

    If we’re talking about, like, 8-year-olds, I mean, I could almost understand – but even then, how’d the kid get there? Parent, most likely. Tell the kid, “No, you can’t have that game.” and be done with it.

    • MercuryPDX says:

      Do you think Best Buy really checks age when selling games?

      Actually, they do… or at least they should be. A company I used to mystery shop for does “Age Compliance Checks” for video games at electronics stores and tobacco products at gas stations. They are always looking for parents with kids 12-16 to do these.

      • Vanilla5 says:

        Of course they should be, but in practice I’ve never, ever seen it done. I’ve been behind quite the number of youngsters (meaning obviously not old enough to be buying games and movies that have the M on it – and they pay and waltz right out the door.

    • DieBretter says:

      I’ve been carded whilst buying games and movies at my local BB. I’m 24.

      Now that I think about it, I’ve been carded there more than once. This store may be a rarity, but it’s the only one I’ve ever been to.

  15. PsychicPsycho says:

    This seems like a very easy resonable thing to do.

  16. Southern says:

    The PTC is famous for being clueless haters of video games, but the organization has a valid point on this matter.

    I couldn’t disagree more with this statement – I think it’s up to the PARENTS to, you know, be a PARENT, rather than to require businesses to cater to the whims of every group out there that wants to “ban this”, “regulate that”, “move this out of sight of my kids”.. All for “the sake of the children”, doncha know.

    Next they’ll probably ask (or sue) Best Buy for even CARRYING “M” rated video games in the first place, and try to force them to stop selling the games.

    If you give in to your “nagging” children (as Phil so delightfully calls them) whenever they cry/whine/nag you for something, then you, as a parent, have more problems than BEST BUY is going to be able to fix.

  17. jpjj225 says:

    I think everyone is just out to complain about something. This is not that big of a deal. That being said, I think they should just do it. Its about time best buy got some good press for once.

  18. areaman says:

    Retailers could take steps to keep out-of-touch parents from buying inappropriate games for their nagging kids.

    Or the PTC can keep their kids from spending money at Best Buy.

    And isn’t the PTC the group that put some games not even available in the US on a ‘worst’ list???

    The PTC should really get a life instead of telling everyone what to do with theirs.

    • chaesar says:

      “The PTC should really get a life instead of telling everyone what to do with theirs.”

      But they’re a group made up of PARENTS, sticking their noses in peoples’ business and telling others what to do is all they have.

      • areaman says:

        Well said sir.

        I’d also like add PTC probably has so little integrity they probably cannot truthfully say PTC is made up for 100% parents. They should adopt the word parentz.

  19. E. Zachary Knight says:

    So, did they make the same request for movies? I know that every store I have visited have films in alphabetical order as well. This places R rated movies near by G rated movies.

    While the attempt has some good intentions, which the road to hell is paved with, parents need to learn to take responsibility for their kids and not rely on third parties to keep their kids out of trouble.

    • Rectilinear Propagation says:

      So, did they make the same request for movies? I know that every store I have visited have films in alphabetical order as well. This places R rated movies near by G rated movies.

      This is exactly what I was thinking when I made the family section suggestion. Video rental places put the little kid stuff in its own section rather than have all of the movies jumbled to keep R stuff away from the G stuff. That is the most they should do, if they should even bother doing anything beyond stopping kids at the point of sale.

  20. Mike says:

    Moving games higher is lame. What about short adults? How about disabled adults? Kids learn about these games from other sources, TV, internet, their friends; exposing them to the cover in a store is nothing. But this is easy to address:

    All M rated games should require ID to purchase.

    There, I fixed it.

    • Grogey says:

      And to add, when the parent asks why am I being ID for this game The employee can explain why. I am all for it.

  21. Grogey says:

    Put them on Higher shelves? The highest BB shelves are at eye level for a 11 year old….

    Oh and blame the stores as usual, parents take some responsibility and not buy the games for them. (I know I am repeating some things)

  22. Erik_says_this says:

    Why does this matter? If they aren’t allowed to buy the games whats the big deal about seeing the cover art?

  23. captadam says:

    Kids buy games at Best Buy?

  24. Wei says:

    I cannot wait until we cycle out a generation of people who believe, among other things:

    - games become more mature by osmosis
    -the box art can be harmful to children
    -understanding the content of a game is too hard to do, so screw it, I’ll just buy it.

    Time is moving too slowly….

    • Moweropolis says:

      Customer 1: Hey! You got MadWorld in my Mario!

      Customer 2: Hey! You got Mario in my Madworld!

      MMMMmmmmmm……..MadMario…….(drool)

  25. dolemite says:

    Idiots. It’s a game. You won’t see anything unless you actually play it. How do you play it? Mommy and daddy have to buy it for them.

  26. PanCake BuTT says:

    Kids Group To Best Buy : We’ll just bring in a latter ! Or one of our tall friends ! Thanks GMO food supply ! GO Posilac !!

  27. hoi-polloi says:

    I have a nephew of 18. When he was younger, his dad and his other uncle would let him play M-rated games. He was there one day when I was swapping titles with my brother, and asked to borrow some mature-rated game. I turned him down. He said, “My dad doesn’t care.” I said, “That’s his decision, but this is my game. I decide who borrows it.” I don’t see why other adults need to deflect moments like those. Make an informed decision, stick with it, and talk about the reasons.

  28. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    Retailers could take steps to keep out-of-touch parents…

    Even “out-of-touch” parents should know about the rating system for games. The PTC clearly knows about it: they said the game was rated mature. They didn’t get confused and use the MPAA rating of R or the RIAA rating of Explicit Content. Being out of touch means not knowing which games are popular not buying games blindly with no idea as to the nature of its content.

    This wouldn’t fly with anything else a parent wouldn’t want their kid exposed to. If a child has a fiber or food allergy they’d check the content of the clothing or food they buy. A parent couldn’t say “Oh I’m out of touch so how would I know what’s in the food I’m buying for my child?”

  29. kcvaliant says:

    Looks like this ignorant parenting group should write a monthly check to best buy and pay for the extra correcting this would take each week..

    Stupid ass parents expecting someone else to parent their child, but still want a say in how it is done..

  30. smo0 says:

    “Retailers could take steps to keep out-of-touch parents from buying inappropriate games for their nagging kids.”

    Poor parents… kids see something they want, throw a fit and nag….

    If I wanted something I was not allowed to have or my mother couldn’t buy – she would give me a polite no, usually followed by some reasonable explanation – and that was that. I was a well mannered, well behaved kid (what happened, amirite?) and I never embarassed my mother by throwing a fit in the store.. that that said – in the back of my mind I knew she would beat my ass and embarass ME if I was acting un-lady-like or inappropriate.

    • Big Ant says:

      When I was a kid I used to nag my parents all the time for the new power rangers toy I saw t the store. They told me I couldn’t have it and yes I would get angry but I would get over it. It is part of growing up, you do not always get everything you want.

      I do not buy any of the arguments where “my kid was nagging me about it”. So what they are kids they nag tell them no and get on with it.

      I could see if best buy was selling manhunt to any 8 year old off the street there would be a problem, but they have a rating system for a reason. Now if they are not enforcing the rating system that doesn’t mean the system isn’t working, it just means they are not enforcing it.

      Are there any actual studies that saying moving things up make children less likely to see and want them, or are they basing this on the whole “out of sight, out of mind” principle and just assuming it will make a difference. From my experience this may make children more inclined to look at the top because “I am a grown up I don’t want the children games they are uncool.” Which again is not from a study but from what I have seen this happens more often than not.

  31. Big Ant says:

    I could then see the next headline: “Mature rated game found on lower shelf, best buy illegally targeting children.” Completely disregarding whether it was a mistake or not, it has to be that they want children to have mature rated games. They have the age check for this. If they have the complaint that they are not properly checking ages it is best buy not enforcing the policy and what makes them think they will follow this one.

    What next all unhealthy food must be on the top shelf?

    The only thing this will accomplish is making locating what you want more difficult.

    I was watching the news the other day and heard about a new study where video games actually help to make people smarter problem solvers. Every day I hear a different study that contradicts another one, video games are bad they make children violent, they are good they make them smarter. I am willing to bet this study was funded by video game backers and the violent one by anti video gamers. This is why I don’t put faith in any of the studies that are done that fail to list any reputable sources or are funded by anyone with an interest in the study going one way or the other. I have yet to see any valid studies that look to see whether the violent video games make the person violent or their violent tendencies make them play the game more. Maybe the game made them angry and they want to kill somebody. What about someone driver and become road rage and kills some one let ban driving. No we restrict it to older teenagers just like we restrict the games with the rating system.

    If parents don’t want their children playing these games then don’t buy them for them and take them away if you find them with them. If a friend plays them then don’t have them go their. If a friend does drugs you wouldn’t want your child there would you? No lets ban drugs its not the child’s fault. Wait we already did that and yet they still are doing the drugs,

    We have already tried banning and making them less accessible, it isn’t working. Instead of banning or relocating things that could in some way make someone get hurt or brainwashed, maybe we should take more responsibility as parents and control what are children do, or even at least have knowledge of what our children are doing. If you as a parent are asked what your child is doing you should be able to have a more concise answer than “he is around somewhere” at least more concise like “he is playing in his room.”

    Taking legislative action against everything that is “bad” for children is not the way to go, rather it should be educate the child and take parental responsibility for you child. It is not the states job to watch your kid. It is their job to provide education, and financial assistance if you can’t afford it. You brought the child into the world not the state, take responsibility for your child and don’t legislate everything because you don’t know what your child is doing.

  32. coren says:

    Director Plum, you understand that the box is not rated mature and that Best Buy is imposing and enforcing age restricted buying policies. However, you’ve asked to move these boxes as if their being in a different location will somehow prevent them from being found. Have you frequently been to a Best Buy retail location? Are you aware that most of their shelves do not exceed four feet in height, particularly in this specific department? Are you under the mistaken impression that most underage gamers are below four feet in height? Perhaps you were unaware that the average US child is 4 feet tall by ten years old? Is this who you were afraid would purchase a game rated M? If so, I question your methodology. Do you think parents should allow children of that age to be unsupervised in Best Buy? If so, do you also support them having the funds to purchase such games (frequently exceeding 20 dollars)? And lastly, do you wish the cashiers in Best Buy locations to ignore their policies and allow underage gamers to purchase whatever they wish?

    Perhaps it’s your common sense I should be questioning.

    And Consumerist, I can’t believe you’re backing them on this. Not seeing a game doesn’t mean kids won’t ask, and putting it on a 4 foot high shelf sure as shit isn’t going to stop them from seeing. Shame on you for supporting these wackos.

  33. Link_Shinigami says:

    My father gave me Doom, Doom 2, Duke 3D, Blood and Shadow Warrior all when they first came out when I was 7-9.

    Protecting kids is the job of a parent, but so is being aware of what they are doing and making sure they understand what they are doing. I remember before my dad let me play Doom, he made sure I understood what I was doing and how a games acts of violence are not to be transfered to the real world as there are consequences for actions.

    The real issue with all of this is parents should be embracing the chance to teach their kids how to properly handle themselves and how to properly act as human beings by directly using these games as learning tool.

    I remember learning a lot of awesome things through video games, none of which are bad things and all of which came from violent games.

    [sarcasm] Hell, GTA taught me to pick up speed and run the hari-krishnas down when they were in a straight line and that elvis impersonators are the best when you turn the torch on them [/sarcasm]

  34. narcs says:

    as they should be higher up. Toys R Us canada has been doing this for a long time now. M rated games are on top and there is a Red tag over the price indicating that the title is Mature Rated.

    Next they need to stop the csr’s from selling the m-rated titles to minors.

  35. teke367 says:

    Wouldn’t work near me. Even if Best Buy used the top shelf in their games section for M rated games, it would still not be too high. Also, it would be made useless when somebody picks up an M-rated game, decides against getting it, and puts it down wherever.

    The cover to M rated games aren’t necessarily any worse than T-rated games anyway.

  36. WickedCrispy says:

    Ooooh, the secret pr0n room… for video games. Better dust off my trenchcoat, fedora and sunglasses.

  37. Heather D. says:

    I’ve been allowing my son to play M rated games since he was 11. I did not allow his friends to do so unless I had spoken to their parents. Not going to get into that whole game rating thing, but where’s the R rated movie hate? Or romance book hate? Most game covers are much more tame than covers for either of those. That said, I’d love to see them sort games into genres like movies – there are certainly enough now to be able to do that, and I would love to just go look for whatever I’m in the mood for, rather than browse by title and have to sort through all the games I have no interest in to find something good.

  38. VOIDMunashii says:

    My local Best Buy’s method of alphabetizing is dodgy enough as it is; this will not help things any.
    When I worked retail I made a point of reading the rating and the descriptors from the back of the case to a parent before ringing the item up. If you want to make sure parents have any idea what they are buying this always seemed like the most effective way.

  39. The_IT_Crone says:

    Are you kidding? If they’re not going to be in alphabetical order then it’s going to be twice as time-consuming to browse for games. This doesn’t even include how much more time/money it would cost retailers.

    Besides the fact that once kids are in elementary school they can generally reach the tallest Best Buy game/movie shelving. If kids under that age are able to browse your local Best Buy unescorted to see “naughty” things, then the problem is with the PARENTS.

    For Pete’s sake, the BOX ART is not going to be offensive enough to keep kids away from it.

  40. Razor512 says:

    A premature has no business going to the store and picking out a game anyway.

    M for mature means the child must be at least 9 months old from conception in order to meet the age requirement. (earlier than 9 months means premature, at which point the child may not be able to play the latest FPS games and it will be wise to not encourage them to until they are mature)

  41. TheGreySpectre says:

    This would be a pain for finding games if B&M stores started doing this. If I am looking for Half-Life I want to be able to go to the “H” section and not worry about the separate mature rated games section.

  42. Randell says:

    So your brat is allowed to watch the Road Runner and Coyote chase each other around and try to kill each other. Tweety and Sylvester are at war. BUT, a video game is what made them go bad? Seeing a chicks tit made them a perv. Get a clue. Take some responsibility and be a fucking parent. If you UNDERAGE child is buying inappropriate stuff at Best Buy that is on YOU. The rest of us should not have to watch out for your kid. Just send him to AF and shut the fuck up

  43. nkash001 says:

    Why must the entire world be responsible for parenting other people’s children? What kind of moron would just buy a game for their child without at least reading the back of the box or taking a quick glance at the rating? The ESRB exists to make life easier for parents, and many places card if they think a minor is purchasing a mature game anyway. It is not Best Buy’s responsibility, or anybody else for that matter, to make sure your five-year-old doesn’t get his or her hands on a copy of the latest Grand Theft Auto game. Your child gets their disposable income from YOU, so be selective about what they spend it on!

  44. Holy_C says:

    When I was a kid in the early ’70′s, I saw a boob on the cover of Playboy in a store. I was thankful. A few years later I got a girl friend and I saw her boobs and a was not scared because that Playboy equiped me for the future.

    I hate it when others try to save me from myself.

    Tell PTC to go read a Playboy

  45. Oritonio says:

    Best Buy I dislike your methods greatly.

    But as for game placement. Whatever put all the MA’s on the bottom shelf and all the E games on the top. Why?

    1. So what if the game is on the bottom shelf, they still can’t have it if I do not approve so this is an irrelavent issue in my parenting methods.

    2. I do not shop at best buy anyways.

    Also.. I believe deeply in parenting my own children not asking stores to do it for me or make it easier for me. My child are very aware that i must approve of purchases, and if they do some how manage to do something behind my back.. i do not think putting it on the top shelf will prevent them from completing their tasks in anyway.

    Also by the age of 8-12 most kids are about eye level with the best buy shelves anyways.

    My 10 year old and 9 year old are.

  46. josephbloseph says:

    But then they wouldn’t be in alphabetical order. Why should I have to look through poorly organized shelves just because a few bad parents can’t keep mature games from their kids.

  47. Paladingo says:

    Toys R Us already does this — but they also have taller shelves. I have no idea how Best Buy could manage the same thing.

  48. TheJinManCan says:

    Uh. No. Best Buy and GameStop, (mostly GameStop) follows ESRB and will not sell to minors, period. Also, it’s alphabetized for the ease of customer to find, (if half the people that shop actually KNEW their alphabet, that’d be even better). Splitting two way alphabet (section that’s T and E, another that’s M), not only will it be a nightmare for employees that have to restock and reface, but a pain in the ass to customers who can’t find certain things as easily.

    Just because I’m 26 doesn’t mean I don’t want to buy a copy of Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Alan Wake, which are rated E and T respectively, and on complete opposite ends of the Alphabet… but now the section looks completely borked because oh look, the alphabet starts… 2 rows down? Why is the S all the way at the bottom and to the right? Wha?

    PTC are a bunch of juveniles who don’t accept parenting responsibilities and want to police every other mature person out of their fun, in any entertainment category. I had GRANDPARENTS come in asking for GTA 4, explained to them what it contains, they agreed that it was a no-go. They then proceeded to ask about Red Dead, HEARD it was like GTA but just cowboys. I told them it is, but it expresses itself much more closely to those times, with a bit of a “moral’ dilemma. As bad but not as bad, if it makes any sense. They understood completely and said grandson ain’t gonna pull a fast one on them.

    GRANDPARENTS. Why the hell can’t parents our age go this far to try and understand?!

  49. elwoodxrl says:

    Location doesn’t matter. Parents using some sense of judgment does matter. At a community event last week, my two-year old is trying to play on the sliding board jungle gym. There are two other kids, definitely no older than five, running around “shooting” each other saying they are playing “Call of Duty.” Now, unless they’re sneaky little rugrats, someone is letting these kids play, or at the very least watch these games. One kid went so far as to pick up a stick, say he had a knife, and proceeded to throw it at the other kid. That game could have been top shelf, bottom shelf, or even gift-wrapped from Grandma. If the parent exercises even just a shred of common sense and supervision, there is no way the kid has intimate knowledge of the details of the game.

  50. D in Buffalo says:

    How about parents watch their kids? Oh yea..they’re too busy doing something else…

  51. Knippschild says:

    Dude, c’mon. I’m 5 foot 5……

  52. Plasmafox says:

    >retailers could takes steps to keep out-of-touch parents from buying inappropriate games

    It’s not the retailer’s, nor the media’s, nor the lobbyist’s job to dictate what is “appropriate” for children to play, watch or read, nor to brand any parent who doesn’t agree with them as out of touch. Especially when there still is no concrete evidence(that I’ve seen, any way) showing any harm being done to mentally healthy children by playing any sort of game. Only anecdotes, speculation and rhetoric founded on religious and liberal facism.

    In my opinion there is *no* justification for these people who think they have a right to force their beliefs on others, even if they say it’s “for the children”.