Are we not allowed to have electronics with us in the cabin when we fly now? Is it true that we can’t get up in the last hour of a flight, and everyone gets patted down now? Most importantly, what about the electronics?
The enforcement of the new security measures will be “unpredictable,” but things have definitely become stricter.
Electronic devices: cannot be brought into the cabin of the plane on international flights to the United States.
Patdowns: Required, for now.
Items on laps: No blankets, bags, suitcases, purses, etc on your lap during the last hour of flight. Your hands must be visible at all times.
No potty breaks: Passengers cannot get out of their seats for the last hour of a flight.
If you’ve experienced these new rules, let us know. From a consumer point of view, we’re particularly concerned about the electronics ban and potential for theft from checked baggage.
New Plane Security Rules: No Electronics, No Getting Up Last Hour, 1 Bag [Business Insider]
TSA orders pat-down of all passengers during boarding [Elliott.org]
Full text of SD 1544-09-06 authorizing pat-downs, physical inspections [Elliott.org]
The New, Terrifying, No-Electronics US Flight Security Rules [Gizmodo]
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I am currently visiting family in Spain and I have about 5 grand in electronics in my briefcase. If they ask me to check it, I´ll ask to be arrested sooner than let go of that bag. I pretty much have one of two options in that situation, either A. having everything out of it stolen, or B. having all my sensitive and fragile devices shattered to shit. You know airline policies don´t cover electronics, I wonder if that´s going to change because the new rules coupled with electronics not being covered does not sound right. Hell if my stuff was destroyed after these new rules were instituted I´d sue the airline anyway, I don´t care what they say about what is and isn´t covered, doesn´t make it right.
All this security and Fox News is allowed to show how to make a bomb on live tv while discussing this story. Yes. That is what they did the other day of course they do it all the time. Some retard was on there listing out the ingredients and the tools needed and proceded to tell in detail how to make a bomb. Then he goes.. this is all available on …. (insert web search page here). Thanks Fox news for teaching terrorism to the kids. Can we sue Fox News for all of America please? Who’s in?
What upsets me is the ‘sharp dressed man’ who one of the people on the plane said let this guy onboard with NO passport. he claimed he was a refugee from sudan or somewhere. I beleive if you question this guy you will know whats really going on. I haven’t seen the news talk about that yet.. of course this guy is free to roam around.
Which makes more sense? Banning all electronic items and personal belongings on one’s lap on international flights to the US because one random person may be a terrorist
OR
Banning all people who may be terrorists from flying to the US?
Isn’t there anyone left in this fading republic of ours (besides myself, that is), that is willing to stand up and say, “Hey, John Smith with his laptop and iPod will not, statistically be a terrorist, but Abdul Mohammed, statistically, may possibly be. So let’s ban him.”
These new rules make about as much sense as current (liberal) gun laws. Banning law-abiding citizens from possessing certain objects will prevent zero crimes. Zero. Criminals, on the other hand (and in this case, terrorists) do not follow the laws of society in the first place, and as such, will ignore all directives and policies an continue to be criminals and terrorists.
Here’s an idea – let’s ban the people behind the attacks. Enough already with the feel-good, touchy-feely PC nonsense. Let’s put an end to this idea that people will be “offended” if their particular race / color / religion / etc, is singled out. Here’s the plan:
1) If you are not currently carrying a US passport, then you must adhere to the rules outlined at the beginning of this article. No ifs, ands or buts.
2) If you are currently carrying a US passport, and you are of Middle Eastern decent, or have a name like Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab (the name of the recent Nigerian terrorist), you must also adhere to the rules outlined above, as well as additional screenings and background checks.
3) If, as in the case of Richard Reid, you are in fact an American citizen, and do have a Western name, but look like a crazy, unwashed, lunatic (http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/wp-images/richard_reid.jpg), then you are not allowed on the plane at all.
Yeah, you know what, a few people might be offended. I offer this retort: So what? I’m pretty offended that we, as a nation, bend over backwards for a tiny majority and their “feelings.” I’m offended that as a law-abiding citizen, I am prohibited from working / entertaining myself during a return flight back home to my country because a handful of lunatic extremists want to kill us.
And after all, who will be offended? 0.6% of the nation. That’s 1.8 million. Boo Hoo. Let ‘em walk. The other 298 million citizens will be able to fly (and live) unimpeded simply because it is a statistical improbability that they are radical Islamic terrorists.
Because that’s who is trying to blow up planes, Ladies, and Gentlemen, in case you forgot. It’s not Susie Homemaker with her Kindle. It’s not James T. Businessman with his Blackberry. It’s Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab with any means he and his radical agenda deems necessary.
Ban HIM. Leave my iPod alone.
I’m not traveling to USA by plain. This is worst than security checks in USSR.
*in best robot voice* I will sit in my seat. I will not make noise. I will keep my hands in my lap.I will not move for 20 hours sitting tall ans staring straight forward. No humans allowed on flights. Just drones
Except then, you would be an electronic device, and not allowed in the cabin, either. To the cargo hold with you!
I know this will sound discriminatory and even racist, but why not concentrate extra security on Arabic males entering on international flights? There have not been too many terrorist cases of 80-year-old grandmas or mothers with babies. Have there?
The potty police are coming . The potty police are coming .
It will be like having to sign up for a hall pass in jr high just to use the restroom while letting mother nature take it’s course . The physical conditions and limitations of airplane are not compatible with all extraneous proceedures that will kill/finish off the airline industry .
They think they have problems with stranded on the runway/in the plane passengers now wait til these draconian measures are enforced to the letter .
I flew back from Australia yesterday (the 27th) with my four year old daughter. We went through extra security at the gate, including a pat down and a full search of our carry on bags, i.e., removal of everything in the bags.
The final hour of flight measures were strictly enforced. All blankets were collected (but not pillows), nothing was allowed in your lap, and no one was allowed up in the final hour of flight. They even made me unwind my sleeping daughter from her blanket and pack away all of the stuffed animals she sleeps with (but did not make me wake her up, fortunately).
That said, there were no restrictions on electronics. I had a laptop, dvd player, video camera, digital camera, blackberry and iPod touch and no one said a word. Same with liquids purchased after the normal security screening – no problem.
Did you say “potential for theft from checked baggage”? It is about to be full-throttle, open season for theft at the airport. Good luck getting any thing to your final destination that you want. There is TOO much theft and denial of responsibility at the airport.
The airlines and TSA already make up rules as they go so be prepared for arbitrary and capricious rules for a while.
Good job, terrorists: Apparently, you have won.
The “no potty breaks” rule is bullshit. if that’s going to be a rule then don’t fine/arrest me when I whip it out and piss in an empty water bottle.
Sounds like a good way to get some extended genital manipulation before taking a trip! Ummmm yeah you can pat me down…oh yeah you need to get in there real good now…..yyyyeeeeaahh that’s it. Find that WMD! A little more to the left and it might go off!
I can see the advertising: We at CrazyPants airlines are giving bathroom control back to YOU the traveler by integrating toilet seats into your plane seats. When you have to go, simply pull the “Easy Pee” tab forward to open up the seat cushion hole and do your business! Quiet b’dai wash system cleans you up on the backside! Safe, easy, and completely conforming to TSA regulations! Isn’t loss of dignity worth the slim chance that restricting bathroom access will catch the .000000001% of terrorists who arm their bombs in the bathroom in the last hour of flight?
Oh I can’t wait for the surprise left for stewardesses when little johnny has to potty
Who made these rules? The baggage thieves??