Now if only the two deadbeats had any assets for the owners to sue away from them. I'm fairly certain their cause is at least partially to blame for the effect.

Can't say I'm too sad.

I think if you eat Domino's pizza, then you're standards for quality food aren't that high, per se, and as long as you know the people were fired and the place was under scrutiny, I don't see how this would have dinged the place that bad, unless they lost a lot in food stuffs, but I would think Domino's would have exchanged all food for "clean" items.

It's a shame everyone else employed there had to pay the price for these idiots. Reminds me of a local pizza hut that went out of business...you'd walk in and only 2 ppl working...we came in one day and the waitress was talking to some friends of hers (the only other people in there). She looked over at us, then went back to talking to her friends. We stood there over 5 min waiting to be seated then just turned around and left. They were out of business a few months later.

And it's all Consumerist's fault...

They took our jaerbs!

@GitEmSteveDave_ForgivesChris4ThePizza: True, but some things just get tainted beyond repair. Like the sweater someone threw up on a Christmas party. I've washed it multiple times and I know it is clean... but I couldn't help getting the heebie jeebies whenever I tried wearing it.

Please stop using that picture.

Please?

I'm sorry for the OTHER people who worked there who lost their jobs when this place closed, but if I lived in that area, I would NEVER, EVER order from them again... and considering they're out of business now, I'm guessing I'm not alone in feeling that way.

So they are actually putting the blame for the shutdown on Mike and Kristy. Interesting. Proof positive that all it takes is one (or two) morons to make life miserable for everyone else.

If I were Domino's, I would start requiring all of their stores to install web-accessible cameras in their kitchens and put the links on the website. I know that sounds crazy, but schools around here do it to help stave off child abuse by staff members...

@Smashville_makes his own comments at home: They didn't actually screw with customer food. There is nothing to sue over.

No one is responsible for the ignorant wraith of the internet.

@AngryK9: I think it was more likely that their actions contributed to widespread word of mouth that led to the demise of the store. No one wants to eat where food was mishandled in that way, and even though the two employees were fired, it casts a shadow on the owners of that franchise because they were the ones who made the hiring decision.

I agree, cameras are key. But a lot of franchises are owned by people who don't have a ton of money. It would be hard pressed for them to get the cameras installed, let alone keep them maintained. Having a camera for show isn't enough - it has to work so you have evidence against the people who don't care that the cameras are there.

@Corporate_guy: You are so incorrect that I am amazed you could aim at the keyboard to type, but if one of our more esteemed legal minds happens to read this thread, I'll them operate the textual shredder here.

It could be a coincidence but we shall never know. Now if only the local papa johns to me would WASH THEIR HANDS after handling money and not just go right back to 'throwing the dough' as I call it. They utilize the guy stretching out the dough as the de facto cashier and I've never once seen them wash their hands before going back and working on a pizza. I've even mentioned it to them to blank stares. I guess the cooking process would kill anything but still...

@RandomHookup: HARDLY! That story was published everywhere. It is the two punks' fault for doing it. Duh!

Consumerist is awesome about and correct in bringing these things to light. If businesses don't want these kind of results, they need to control their employees and worship consumers, individually and collectively, plain and simple.

i suppose it could be b/c of those 2 morons, but i doubt it. things are really tough all around for small business owners right now - credit lines are freezing up, access to new lines is non-existent & people have cut back on eating out.

a look at their financials shows that domestically, they've had quite a few stores close in Q1 & Q2 of this year:

domestic numbers (store count as of 03/22)
Q1 openings: +11
Q1 closings: -71
Q2 openings: +22
Q2 closings: -42
TOTAL: -80 stores

internationally they're doing a lot better, but i think this is more likely a convenient excuse.

@AngryK9: I actually love this epilogue. This is exactly how it should be - consumer justice. Any business that actively disregards consumers' safety and welfare deserves this in the end.

The cameras are a great idea - and only fair - drive throughs surveil customers driving through, why shouldn't we have a right to watch Mc-Teenager or McMexican make our McBig Mac?

@FDCPAGuy: Report him to the health department. That will change once they come out. They have to do a follow up visit too. If they don't change, they basically get asked how they would like to make out the multi-thousand dollar fine. If they decline to pay or ask the inspectors to leave they come back along with the sheriff a few hours later.

I don't feel sorry for Dominos whatsover. They actually served me a dead spider on a pizza once. (Gimme a break, like they don't see that in the box before closing it? It was BLACK and HUGE) Then had the gall to offer me a free pizza. The managerette couldn't understand why I kept asking for the district manager's name. "Oh honey, I don't want a free pizza, I want you shut down"...That's right, no longer in business there either.

Being one of the guys who helped bring Kristy and Michael down, I can honestly say I feel sorry for the other employees.

The Franchisee was an idiot in his hiring practices. Kristy was already a registered sex offender.

But, I don't feel sorry for the franchisee on this one.

@pecan 3.14159265: Well either way it goes I'd have to say they ultimately were to blame.

As for cameras, for the most part I agree about the expense, as high-end camera systems can be prohibitively expensive. However there are many IP cameras out there for less than $400 USD that can be plugged into a LAN and linked from the corporate website. In my travels in field technical work, I've found that most chains, corporate or franchise (not all Domino's locations are franchise stores) are either linked to a central location on some level or have internet access available in-store. Someone who really wanted to get it done could put a camera in their kitchen and put it online for under $500 USD.

Perhaps this is a business opportunity! :D

@Areyouagoodlittleconsumer: Well you know what they say: Nasty people always get their comeuppance. :D

@Areyouagoodlittleconsumer: Did they write BLACK SPIDER BIG FAT on your receipt?

[consumerist.com]

@whyerhead: I know right. I would have definately been offended if I woke up the morning after a party and realized I had sex with her. *gag*

@mac-phisto: It certainly could be. On the other hand, if a business is already close to the bone, losing a percentage of customers grossed out by this could well be enough to deal the fatal blow. So it may have been a significant factor.

Sounds like they let a lease expire unless the property is owned.

@mac-phisto: i think you described it best wether it's the normal course or business or that franchise ran with such tight margins it wasn't worth it especially after those fools .

@GitEmSteveDave_ForgivesChris4ThePizza: I haven't ordered Dominos since then. While I was never really a fan of Dominos, their Philly-style steak and cheese pizza was fairly decent and could be had for an alright prize. It made good spongy food to absorb alcohol.

But after that video... I can't bring myself to order from them ever again. Nor can my friends. I went to a work meeting a while back catered with Dominos... only three people would touch it. The rest kept their distance.

@FDCPAGuy: I've had the exact experience at Papa Johns. I wonder if we're talking about the same store, or if this is just standard procedure at all of them.

Meanwhile, Kristy Hammonds is busy speaking to state legislators about the rights of sex offenders attending NC colleges.

"She said she has changed, and now she is the victim of bad legislation."

Sex Offender Takes Concerns About New Law To Legislator

@AngryK9:

Other then the fact franchise stores can do pretty much whatever they want..

Link

[www.wsoctv.com]

@Areyouagoodlittleconsumer: whoosh!!!!

@GitEmSteveDave_ForgivesChris4ThePizza: *your

@Corporate_guy: I...wow. I don't even know what to say to that.

@AngryK9: I'm sure that is the UK's reasoning that they have so many thousands of cameras installed all over, and want to install cameras in certain people's houses so they can monitor every movement of the citizens. Sure, crime will be lower, but the citizens have no freedom. For every ounce of security we gain, we give up a pound of freedom.

@pecan 3.14159265: I think even a $30 webcam would be enough to stop most employees. Heck, a box with a lens on the front and some sort of light to indicate power would be enough for some.

@FDCPAGuy: Well, given that a recent study showed that an absurd percentage of $1 bills have cocaine on them, just thing of it as an "extra special" topping! Ahaha.

@AngryK9: +1

What do you have against big fat black spiders, anyway???

@ovalseven:

She kind of has a point. The sex offender issue is pretty tough, and one lawmakers really don't want to spend much time on it seems. I don't know of too many crimes where someone has their rights abridged for the entirety of their lives, even AFTER they have served their time/received counseling/paid their dues/fines. Sex offenders can be banned from attending school, can't live in certain places, can't work at certain jobs, must register everywhere and check in regularly. You could murder a few people and you wouldn't have 1/2 the limitations placed on you after you got out of jail as a sex offender does.

@Corporate_guy: Just looked at your comment history. It's clear you're only here to troll.

@AngryK9: no, but it only had 7 legs.

@Saboth: Interesting points and very true. However felons of any crime type cannot own guns and cannot vote for the rest of their lives.

One problem is that most sex offender laws do not parse the difference between a pedophile offender (a creep after children), a statutory contact offender (a young adult with an under 18 year old), and same age offender over age 18. While all of these profiles have their own mental issues, the 2nd two shouldn't have the restrictions that the first one does unless those two types are habitual with more than two convictions on different cases.

If I remember in Kristy Hammonds probably fell inbetween the first category and second category as she abused a teen girl who was about 14 years old when Hammonds was 27 or 28. Semi-creep.

@econobiker: Actually, you're a little off about the voting rights. Only a few states currently disenfranchise felons for life, and the ACLU is working on that, which they should.

[en.wikipedia.org]

If a felon has served their punishment and is no longer a threat, then release them and restore all their rights.

Yes, including their right to an effective means of self-defense. There are way too many non-violent felonies on the books these days.

I'm all for civil rights but that woman molested a 14 year old and then this thing with the pizza.

"My civil rights are broken so someone is going to have to pay for that," she said. "I have to provide a future for a baby."

Should have thought of that when you were molesting that other person's grown up baby and then making people eat your disgusting pizza.

@AngryK9: Or, they could actually use a screening process in hiring people.

I actually dislike cameras in a workplace environment. It isn't exactly good for employee morale, knowing that at any time your boss could be watching you over the Internet. I worked for a place like that once, and every once and a while the owner would call and ask questions that would lead me to believe he had been sitting and watching everything for the past few hours. I know cameras are necessary in some cases, but I also know that some degree of trust is necessary to maintain a healthy workplace.

@Areyouagoodlittleconsumer:

Health departments are worthless. A local grocery store's freezers were regularly breaking (as staff admitted when I would mention to them about it). I got tired of picking up soggy merchandise, and wondered just how long it would take for someone to die from eating refrozen food (which my prior purchases from there had proven).

So I took a snapshot of a HOT (yes, HOT) freezer's thermometer (30 deg C!) and the melted hamburgers in it a few weeks later. I told the health department about the ongoing problem, even offered to mail them the photos if they'd like.

They sent an inspector over a week later and this is a direct quote of the entire body of the email (typos included):

I conducted an inspection of the facilityAug. 21/09. I discussed the nature of your concerns with the operatorand he outlined the freezer's defrost schedule and the alarm system usedfor all his cooling units. During the inspection no infractions werenoted.
Contact me If you have any questionsor concerns.

I don't think the inspectors could inspect their way out of a paper bag with a boxcutter in hand. I've just decided I'll buy my frozen and refrigerated goods elsewhere...

@AdvocatesDevil:

you know the sucky part about this? the innocents that did do their jobs correctly just got "unemployed" and are now the taxpayers problem.

So the internet won alright... what's the prize? more unemployed workers that did nothing wrong that taxpayers are paying for.

We win.... YAY!!!!!!

What's going to suck even worse is they probably won't be able to find any food service related work since the two punks pretty much ruined what they had.

@Preyfar: If you honestly think that was the worst when it comes to food tampering, and/or that food tampering doesn't go on, then you are living in a fantasy world. I would eat Dominos if offered to me/last resort, same as I would prior this incident, but I would not let two idiots stop me from eating from a chain on a whole. I mean, what about the BK video where the guy bathed in the slop sink? Do you not eat at BK anymore?

@Spinfusor: You're right, I did use the wrong word their. Im sorry.