Is it bad that this article has tipped me off to the existence of Jack's Pizza 4-packs and now I am really hungry for pizza?

I like totino's.

Woo! Defective Tombstone Pizzas!

To soy! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems

"Kraft needs to warn carnivores that they may be eating soy."

We true carnivores enjoy to admit that we DO eat our veggies... They just happen to be pre-processed and embedded in the flesh of the animals we enjoy eating.

In other words, Kraft needs to warn carnivores that they may be eating soy.

Good for them, since a soy allergy can be a severe and dangerous one, similar to a peanut allergy. There's a reason soy is in the "top 8" allergens on the FDA's list that need to be identified.

It's a sad day that I'm pleased to see a company doing the minimum that should be expected, but at least they're being proactive.

Because certainly people wouldn't be allergic to soy, not at all! Far be it from people to expect possible allergens to be listed on the label, and heaven forbid companies recall mislabeled food!

I wonder if you would have the same application of snark if it was some wheat/egg/phenylalamine/etc. contamination in some specially labeled food ...

Soy protein allergen is people!

AMY'S ORGANIC PIZZA! No pork (ICK! and not kosher), No beef, and no chicken! But it does have plenty of SOY! (I love the Margarita Pizza the best, nice thin sliced tomatoes and they use real basil.)

Does it mean that if you're not allergic to soy you can eat this just fine, business as usual?

@yentaleh: mmmmm pork. Well now I want a sausage pizza. But I do love the tomato, basil and mozarella combo.

It's people!!!!

@yentaleh: If the problem with the recalled pizza is that it'll harm people allergic to soy, a Plenty o' Soy pizza isn't going to be much of a solution.

@pecan 3.14159265: I would guess so. But if I'm going to eat cardboard pizza, its def. not going to be this one.

@yentaleh: Sounds terrible

@yentaleh: mmmm, Amy's.... *drools*

Frozen Pizza... ewwww. Have a Trader Joes around? Might want to check out the deli area for their fresh pizza dough. The stores around here have a hard time keeping it in stock. Just add some Muir Glen pizza sauce, fresh mozzarella and your choice of toppings to make a homemade pizza that will beat most chains and cost less than $5 to make!

@pecan 3.14159265: I was wondering the same thing. Reading as it is... it sounds OK to still consume as long as you don't have a soy allergy.

@yentaleh: I love Amy's burritos! So tasty! I love the Kashi pizzas too when they are on sale. One has plantains on it and it is surprisingly awesome.

@DPGumby: BINGO!

@DPGumby: Or make your own pizza dough...it's not hard, especially if you have a food processor to do the kneading for you.

I make pizza on the grill from time to time. It comes out really tasty, and doesn't heat up the house. The trick is to lightly grill one side of the dough first, then flip it and add the toppings.

@yentaleh: And it says "organic" right on the label, so it MUST be good for you.

@DPGumby: Homemade pizza is the one area I've yet to conquer. I've tackled cassoulets, gumbos, and other much more complicated things but pizza's my nemesis.

Soy is used in many foods as a filler, just like corn. It's even found in products from Taco Bell and McDonalds. Is this a different form, or do people with soy allergies react differently when it's processed certain ways?

@Orv: While I love making homemade dough, it takes a lot of time and patience. I don't have either of those after 9-10 hours at work. TJ's dough balls are the closest thing I have found to homemade, the ingredients list is short and a single ball (enough for a 16" pizza) costs about $1.50 here.

@Taliskan: Only if you're using a loose definition of "OK to still consume". :p

@yentaleh: You know, too much soy is a bad thing.

@Katxyz: Fast food chains do not have to comply with the labeling regulations that retail food products do. In fact, their major regulating body is the department of health and (more recently) some local governments.

Mmmmmm..... Tombstone frozen pizza. Gahahahahawhaha [drools]

Tombstone is the perfect drunk food when you don't want to deal with the Jack in the Box/fast food Mexican drive-thru. Just get home, pop it in the oven, and assuming you don't pass out, enjoy.

@Katxyz: Is this a different form, or do people with soy allergies react differently when it's processed certain ways?

In my case yes.

After a food challenge test, I was able to determine that I could have soy lecithin, but all other products made from soy cause various levels of problems.

Soy sauce gives me a _very_ bad reaction, and my worse reactions come from fish fried in soy oil. (I'm fine if the fish is fried in other oils like Canola, Peanut, Olive, or Butter .... mmmmmm butter )

Luckily I don't have life threatening reactions to soy. My reactions are similar to people with lactose intolerance.

Standard soy based mayo on a sandwich will make people not want to be around me for several hours, and about two hours after having fish fried in soy oil, I have to spend several more painful hours in the bathroom.

I have come across a few soy reactive people who have symptoms like mine, but the majority of people that react to soy have to avoid it for fear of needing to go to the emergency room.

The is another minority group of soy sensitive people that don't have a reaction right away. Their reactions may come a day or two later in the form of things like skin rashes, various auto-immune reactions, and for a even smaller minority "brain fog". I have spoken with some of those that have the delayed reactions, and may of them have stories of how it took them years or decades to track down the problem.

Undeclared ingredients can make it even harder for someone who suspects that they have a reaction to an ingredient to figure out what the problem is.

[Please return to normal reading of non-over explained answers]

James T. Savidge, Wednesday, August 19, 2009

@Katxyz: It's not that the form is special, it's that the label was incorrectly printed without including this (comparatively) highly allergenic ingredient: [www2.nbc4i.com]

What do YOU want on your Tombstone?™

@pecan 3.14159265: ..so is too much.. anything..?

It's not like processed meats are doing anyone's insidey parts any favors.

@G.O.B.: Come on!: YOU ARE MY GOD

@veg-o-matic: I was subtly remarking on yentaleh's use of all caps and exclamation points.

@mmmsoap: Killjoy.

"I was allergic to soy!"

@snoop-blog: Oh god those things are horrible, they go right through me.

@DPGumby: It's really not time consuming once you get the hang of it. I'll usually make up a batch of enough dough for about 5-6 pizzas at a crack. process: gather ingredients, add water, 1st mix, autolyze: 20 minutes, 10 of which the dough is just sitting.
mix, knead, rest x 2 = another 20-25 minutes
it takes another 5 minutes or so to put the dough into portioned out baggies

so maybe 5-10 minutes worth of work per pizza is all you need to get great dough. I pull mine out a few days before hand to let it thaw and ferment, and the result is phenomenal, gives you so much control over the end product.

@pecan 3.14159265: [www.varasanos.com] GREAT pizza is one of the most difficult simple things you can do, but if you follow that you will get awesome results. The only thing I can add to that page is using a granite tile as a pizza stone closest to your heating element (bottom rack for most electric ovens) will get you the nice crispy char on the bottom while keeping the soft, springy inside. Making a great pizza is really all about the crust.

@Homerjay. Good and good for you.: You totally stole my kill.

@JennQPublic: How "loose" of a definition should I be using here? :P

@DPGumby: Actually, I live very far from Trader Joe's. And when I'm buying frozen pizza it's because I want to avoid either using any dishes or, you know, doing things.

@DPGumby:

I know, but McDonalds does list soy lecithin (used as a release agent) on their allergen lists and websites. I didn't realize soy reactions were that common, and I don't think many people, outside those with allergies, know that it's so common an ingredient. I was mostly responding to the "carnivores eating soy" comment, which I understand was a joke, but the majority of people don't realize how much soy is used because I've definitely heard similar jokes and comments before.

@yentaleh: Hmmm that sounds delicious. I love Amy's pizza pockets, they're AWESOME, despite always bursting open in the microwave.

@Quake 'n' Shake: assuming you don't pass out is the most important phrase in that comment. I miss my ex-boyfriend and our house more and more everyday. :\

@lpranal: That's awesome but I really do not have time to do this.

I wish I did. :P--- (That's a drooling smiley)

@G.O.B.: Come on!: That ROCKS!