Data Roaming: Don't Try This On The AT&T Network
For as long as there's been mobile Internet, there have been outrageous roaming charges for using mobile Internet abroad. Now, people affected by this issue have a celebrity spokesman: Adam Savage of "Mythbusters" fame.
Savage used his Mercury USB modem for a few hours while in Canada. The bill? $11,000. They claim that he used 9 gigabytes of data in just a few hours of Web surfing. We call mathematical shenanigans.
AT&T has turned off Savage's cell phone (and modem) and he's live-tweeting his interactions with the company.
This isn't a new issue to anyone who is a faithful Consumerist reader; we've published tales of data roaming woe that occurred from Europe to, well, Europe. We even featured a similar tale of roaming and poor math skills that happened three years ago during a Verizon customer's trip to Canada.
If you're leaving the country, you're best off disabling any mobile data contraptions on your person.
And so you don't try this when you're away from home, here's a guide to using your cell phone and data plan abroad even when you aren't famous.
UPDATE: An anonymous but impeccable source inside AT&T just told us that the vast majority of customers with huge data roaming charges will not get the charges reversed unless the charges are obviously erroneous. Not "I didn't know data cost that much in Manitoba." More like "I have never been to Manitoba, since as you can see I was also using the Internet in Los Angeles at the same time that you claim I was in Manitoba." See the difference?
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Best part is at the quoted .015 cents per kb he should owe far less than $11,000 even if he did stream 9Gb.
I am very curious how this will play out. Are they going to be firm, or let him off easy? AT&T (any cell co.) now is in a lose-lose situation. 1, you alienate a bunch of people for not backing down to a 'famous' person. Or 2, you have to eat major crow and waive the fee along with MANY other peoples fees.
If you are roaming, either turn it off, or man up to the fees.
@TheName: Wasn't there an article a while back where AT&T couldn't understand the difference between .015cents per minute and .015 dollars per minute?
@Smashville:
Well, just remember roam wasn't billed for a day.
(really sorry, just couldn't hold it in)
@Kevin Wolf: Here's a link: [consumerist.com]
It was over the difference between being charged $0.015 per KB when the quoted rate was $0.00015 per KB, the former being one-and-a-half (1.5) cents, the latter being one-and-a-half hundredths (.015) of a cent.
It was hilarious. Too bad the audio is no longer available.
@TheName: At .015 cents per KB, 9 GB = 9,437,184 KB = $1415.58
But if its .015 cents per Kb, then it comes out to $11,324.64.
But his twitter is the exact same x100 magnitude problem that verizon had with 0.015 cents per kb ≠ a penny and a half per kb.
I was gone in Los Angeles for a whole month and I had used my EVDO A phone as a modem, streamed movies, music, and did constant web pages, emails, pictures, etc, even streamed music to the phone directly for 9 hours a day...YES BELIEVE IT...
I did not even break 5GB!
And at $0.03 per kb it would be about $125,829.12 for roughly the amount Ive used.. ALL MONTH. There is NO WAY that he could have used 11GB in a few hours! Not on Rogers HSPA network, and certainly not at 1600kbps AVERAGE speed.
I'm having a similar problem this month. My wife and I are now stationed on opposite sides of the country. She was having trouble getting internet where she is now, but had a great 3G signal, so went to AT&T and got one of those USB wireless devices. She was never told that there was a data transfer limit, and it was nowhere in the documents she signed.
Fast-forward 2 weeks, and after a couple Skype sessions of an hour or so, we bust the 5 Gig limit. We now have a $1240 bill. My wife went to return the device and cancel service (since it had only been 3 weeks since she got it). The charges were supposed to go away, but they are still there.
Too bad I don't have 50,000 twitter followers so I can get stuff taken care of that fast too :(
I used to work for AT&T and I know what the problem is here. We used to encounter it quite often in international cases, especially when the iPhone came out.
You aren't thinking in _METRIC_ GB. 1 GB = 10 MB = 100 KB = $$$.
Seriously, when I was there, there was both the 1.5 cents per kb and the 0.015/kb in our rules and training, which had to be followed verbatim. I cut the difference and said checking email would cost a few dollars and emailed them the step-by-step directions for turning the internet off.
Maybe phones should be required to have a running readout of bandwidth used and accumulating charges if they're roaming.
Nobody would use a gas pump that doesn't tell you how much you owe until you're done filling up, so if cell companies want to charge the crap out of people for roaming data, they should be required to show what the cost is.
I know from experience that ATT can and potentially will reduce the charges, even if they are 100% your fault. I used to work as a personal assistant for a woman who travelled around Europe for 2 weeks using her ATT modem to occasionally check emails. She was completely computer illiterate and was definitely not surfing the web at any point. Her bill was $4500 when she got home and she was able to talk them down to around $600. Her only defense was that she simply did not know the data usage fees, or else she obviously would not have used her modem while abroad. She was extremely nice and polite on the phone and maybe got lucky with a rep who was having a good day. Either way- it IS possible to get the charges reversed, and worth giving it a shot if you find yourself in the same situation.
"If you sign up with AT&T for service, they will eventually screw you."
Myth... or Fact?
Uh, Fact. Their customer "service" people will hide behind "policy," "the computer says," or the favorite: "YOU NEED TO CALL..." (some other clueless AT&T department, there are BILLIONS.)
If you're a business customer your rep will have been promising you a bill credit "to resolve everything" if you just sign the contract renewing services for X number of years. S/He will be reassigned immediately after the new contract has been executed - and then your promised credit will be denied. The new rep will act helpless and pretend to feel bad that "management" has done this to you. Not to worry though! If your new contract was for two years your "new" rep will string you along about another "credit" for 23-ish months. It repeats.
RUN away from AT&T. The honeymoon might last a couple of months but it's not WORTH IT!
@☠Grяrяrяrяrя sings the doom song now!: My Toshiba has this. In fact, just about every Japanese phone does. Then again, their local providers help too; one of them offers a $2/MB roaming rate for its users on AT&T (though the fact that said provider helped AT&T make 3G happen for Hawaiians is probably why).
@HogwartsAlum: Show up for an airplane demonstration at a local outdoor festival and get hit with a little Love Shack instead.
@Chuck Thorne: By gum you're right! Everyone is thinking in imperial measurements, but Canada is metric. So you have to convert these GBs into litres first.
@jamar0303: Although said rate only extends to 15MB or so (they count data usage by the packet- fun). But still, if only AT&T would extend such a courtesy to roamers to Canada.
@jamar0303: Every phone should have such a thing. I'm sick of companies shrugging their shoulders and saying "You should have read the 75 pages of legal fine print in your service agreement" and then leaving people with $10,000 bills.
That would be like arresting people for speeding even though the one and only speed limit sign was hidden behind a tree 300 miles ago.
@HogwartsAlum: The first time was during earth day way back when in NYC, I was there with my parents and they happened to be playing in Central park so we stayed and watched them. Second time was last year, my wife likes the band Tegan and Sarah and they were playing in the true colors tour at Foxwoods casino, so I got tickets then found out B52's were playing also.
@dallasmay: The 3G connection in Canada must be WAY faster than AT&T's connection in the states as 9 GB in 3 hours seems impossible based on my tethering experiences in which I have never gotten faster than 40kb/second.
@☠Grяrяrяrяrя sings the doom song now!: That'll end up being "technically not possible," because it prevents them from f**king you over with obscene charges.
@☠Grяrяrяrяrя sings the doom song now!: Even without providing a running readout of charges, I can't believe that they don't cut you off after $500 or so, and make you call to tell them that yes, indeed, you know you are going to get a several thousand dollar charge for what you are doing.
In most cases they'll lower it to a more "reasonable" amount (which is still way too high) in the hopes that you'll just give in.
But... due to the fact that not only has this been made public AND it's from a celebrity, it's also on the "hottest" new social network. Don't take what happens in this case as the usual scenario; PR people are already at work with their Starbucks coffee and designer handbags scattered on the table looking at the best way to "spin" this.
@sleze69: Rogers wireless here in Canada boasts 7.5Mbit 3G speeds through usb modems, that running full tilt could eat up 9GB in just a few hours, but we believe in Rogers as much as you guys down there believe in AT&T, so I say sustaining those speeds is rather unlikely.
But it may still be possible, I get a constant 2.5Mbit/s with my iPhone here, and I think that is exactly what the iPhone caps at.






















9 Gigs in a few hours. And at 3G speeds. That's not bad at all. A hour of a Hulu HD stream is less than 1 gig. I would have trouble doing that on my regular connection.