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Eric and his girlfriend are trying to acquire a beanbag chair from sumolounge.com, but there have been some hiccups. Eric is a former retail manager, so he's actually pretty understanding about how things can go wrong with fulfillment. Now that Mindy is just flat out ignoring him, however, he may have lost his patience. Update: The founder of sumolounge.com has responded in the comments below.

Back in February, my girlfriend ordered a chair (the Chief Rocker) from Sumo Lounge (www.sumolounge.com). After a month with no chair and communication after the original order confirmation, she emailed them asking for an update... but never got a response. About two weeks later, we finally got the shipment notification; several days after that, it was delivered. However, what was delivered wasn't what we ordered. It turns out that that chair had been discontinued. What was sent in its place was a Sumo Gamer beanbag, a more expensive item. While not what we had originally wanted, it would do for our purposes. We were annoyed that we had never been contacted and informed that we would be getting a different product, but mollified by the fact that the replacement was more expensive.

The problem really started when assembling the beanbag chair. After following the directions and packing the liner with the foam, placing that inside the cover, and then waiting a day for the foam to expand, I flipped the beanbag over to begin fluffing it and noticed a hole in the microsuede cover. I shot Sumo Lounge an email, to which I got no response. A few days later, I called and spoke to someone who said I'd need to talk to a supervisor, Mindy, who would call me back in an hour or so. After two hours and no phone call, I called back and asked to speak to Mindy directly. She verified that the originally ordered product had in fact been discontinued, which was why we got the beanbag instead. She also asked me to send her a picture of the hole. I had already taken pictures, anticipating they'd be necessary, and sent them to her via email while we were still on the phone. She assured me that a replacement cover would be shipped out the following Wednesday.

A week went by with no contact, and on the Tuesday AFTER the designated I emailed Mindy again, asking for a status update. At this point, the replacement cover was finally ordered and shipped out to me. Four days later, we received the replacement cover - which didn't match the original specs. Both the original chair we ordered and the beanbag chair we received are advertised as having machine-washable microsuede covers - which is an absolute necessity in our eyes. The replacement cover they shipped us was a spot-clean-only microfiber cover.

I emailed Mindy that day, requesting another replacement cover (that matched the advertised specs) and either a partial refund or credit towards future purchases to make up for the inconvenience. To her credit, she responded the next day promising to investigate and apologizing for the inconvenience. However, she never contacted me back. Two days later, I emailed her asking for a status update; this email was never responded to. A week later, I called her asking for an update. She told me she'd need to speak to someone in shipping, who had already left for the day. She told me both she and the shipping person would be in the next day (last Saturday), and assured me that she would email me with an update, even if just to say she couldn't get anything accomplished. I then asked her about the partial refund or credit, and I heard the verbal equivalent of a blank stare. When I told her that I had made that request in the same email that I had asked for the second replacement cover, she admitted to me that she hadn't bothered to read the whole email and would have to look into that for me.

I've heard nothing from her in the past week. In my frustration, I'm turning to you, hoping that you can help me find resolution.

Eric also forwarded us the email chain so far, and we're not sure but we think Mindy might be kicking back in one of those beanbag chairs and playing a video game while she's solving customer problems. Eric's emails to her are precise and well-written (see above). Here are her responses.

When asked for a status update after hearing nothing for 11 days:

Sorry for the trouble I had forwarded your email straight to shipping they were to ship the replacement cover and reply to your request   I do apologize for the added inconvenience   a new cover is being shipped   thx Mindy

When Eric asked Mindy to verify that the shipping department was actually sending the cover, and hadn't just re-sent the original shipping notice (because it looked like a duplicate):

Here is reply from shipping dept   sorry for the delay   thx Mindy

When told that the replacement cover that finally arrived was the wrong part and wouldn't work:

Oh my   I'm sorry let me investigate will get it corrected   I apologize for the inconvenience

When asked for an update of any kind after a week:

 
 

Hmm. On second thought, she may just be an actual beanbag.

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What did you expect? Her name is Mindy. The only way it could be worse is if it were Cindi with an 'i'.

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@henwy:

Or maybe Kandy with the K. I hear they can't chew gum and breathe at the same time.

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She doesn't even write in sentences.

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We ordered a bean bag from sumolounge. The only problem was the shipping notification email came AFTER it was delivered. Got it in a week to a week in a half I think. So, no problems really. This sounds like one poorly handled situation and not even sure why it's here.

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@henwy: or even a normal name, like SanDeE. That's big S, small a, small n, big D, small e, big E.

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@henwy: Mindy with a heart over the "i" could be worse.


Oh, and don't hate on Kandy. She's just dancing here to work her way through college.

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From all I have head sumo makes great products, they participate a lot in gaming events and provide sponsorship and prizes for gameing conventions etc.


Ive never boght anything from them, but ive always heard really good things about the products and the people...


I wonder if this is just an isolated bad experience.

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I wish Apple sold bean bags chairs

iPod integration with excellent customer service

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@xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter: I don't know, seems like if they took care of it on the first or second try, I could call it isolated. But when they provide repeated fuckups on the same order, that's indicative of bad customer service.

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@AppleAlex:

wow is it more pathetic that your name is AppleAlex or you name drop the name of the company and one of their flagship products in a completely unrelated post?

your life sucks.

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hi I'm Mindy I would like to help you but oh my I don't understand a single word you're saying or know anything about punctuation Let me get the dictionary for you Oh my it's left for the day sorry kthxbai

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Glad I'm getting this comment in early because I want to stress that this is not an isolated incident. I went through a similar customer service fiasco with Sumo Lounge. I was charged immediately upon ordering, received no email on confirmation or shipping. I emailed several times and received no response.

I called in and was berated because the website said it would take 7-10 days to arrive, even though at this point that time had passed and it hadn't shipped. I had to call back several times over the next few weeks and got jerked around every time. Mindy was rude, provided different lengths of time every time I called (5-7, 7-10, 10-12) and kept assuring me "Oh it's shipping tomorrow!" when it did not.

They're completely incapable of running a business. As much as I love my chair, I would never recommend dealing with them to anyone.

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@italianscallion33: no, she writes more like she's actually a LOLcat. which wouldn't surprise me. my cat would greatly enjoy being employed by a beanbag chair company

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@Jason Sykes: You don't think that's a little harsh?

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@Jason Sykes: Wait. I just read the Pixar post, and saw a similiar post from AppleAlex. I hereby rescind my criticism of your statement. Sorry, Jason!

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umm one word... Chargeback!

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I purchased a Sumo sultan as a Christmas/Moving gift for my girlfriend and myself and I went through hell trying to get things sorted out.

I was told the product was shipped and I would receive it before Christmas. The tracking info they gave me was never updated no the website.

I called customer service 5 times, each time getting different answers, 4 times saying I would get it before Christmas, 1 time saying no way.

Finally after 2 weeks I had pretty much given up the hope of getting it on time, it was the day before Christmas eve, I come home to find it sitting on my porch.

No problems after that, just a lot of stress. I spoke with Mindy, and she was nice, just not very helpful.

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@HogwartsAlum: I'm sorry, I didn't get anything after "hi I'm Mindy" because I didn't bother to read your entire comment.

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I am the founder of the company in question.

& will say a few things...............................

To lower shipping costs we use multiple shipping locations & from time to time mistakes can happen. (not everything ships from the same factory & they people who handle the customer service are in another so it takes time)

Usually we are good in shipping - law of numbers will always say 1/100 1/1000 & something will get messed up

I will admit Mindy was not the best when it comes to customer service & as of last week she will be replaced by someone much better

I apologize !!!!

It is good to get feedback like this & be able to learn from our mistakes

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I left another message but it is being reviewed as I am not a member.

I am the founder of the bean bag company & I apologize for this.

Few points I would like to make so people will not think we are complete idiots:

2) To reduce costs we ship from multiple locations which saves significantly on shipping & we do pass this on to our customers. If you search around on the internet our prices with free shipping are pretty well the best.

Just so people know - everything is based in 1 central location. Emails would of been sent to the appropriate factory (say West Coast 3hrs behind) & it makes time for people to reply.

2) Mindy is a very nice person & tries her best (she is not a bean bag) but as of next week she will be relieve of customer service & more attentive people will be handling this in the future.

Eric - sorry for all of the trouble !!!

Please email me andrew@sumolounge.com & I would be happy to send you out 2 Omni chairs free of charge.

Andrew

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& I should of proofed that one better first & have a few grammatical errors so here it is again:

I left another message but it is being reviewed as I am not a member so will post again under Facebook

I am the founder of the company in question & I apologize for this.

Few points I would like to make so people will not think we are complete idiots:

2) To reduce costs we ship from multiple locations which saves significantly on shipping & we do pass this on to our customers. If you search around on the internet our prices with free shipping are pretty well the best.

Just so people know - everything is NOT based in 1 central location. Emails would of been sent to the appropriate factory (say West Coast 3hrs behind) & it Takes time for people to reply.

2) Mindy is a very nice person & tries her best (she is not a bean bag) but as of next week she will be relieveD of customer service & more attentive people will be handling this in the future. This is something that has been in the works over the last few weeks

Eric - sorry for all of the trouble !!!

Please email me andrew@sumolounge.com & I would be happy to send you out 2 Omni chairs free of charge.

Andrew

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@takes_so_little: thats a valid point.


Maybe they are just really good at completing orders the first time, and when they blow it, it gets really screwed.

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Wow, I'm impressed by the response time. Can't wait to see the update pics (and curious about the delivery time too).

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Somebody tipped me off & sent an email with a link

I will take care of this in the morning & Chris should get his bean bags very quickly

I will email Chris tomorrow & hope that he can accept my apology !!

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(To the tune of the Dora the Explorer theme)

Cha Cha Cha Cha Chargeback

Cha Cha Cha Cha Chargeback

Cha Cha Cha Cha Chargeback

Chargebacks Chargebacks the fixer of everything.

)))))

On a side note, it really is nice to see a company employee respond.!

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well he could chargeback $179 but if he likes he can get 2 products worth $298 & at the end of the day they are very comfortable bean bags & I am sure he would like them

I am the founder of the company

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@Jason Sykes: It's rare. It's shameful. I actually agree here with a Facebooker.

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@Sumo Omni: good of you to show up and respond.
i'm not associated in any way with the story or the original poster of the issue - i just really do find myself amazed and respectful of company representatives who respond on this site because they open themselves up to a lot of .... feedback

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@catastrophegirl - brand new homeowner: .... feedback

You are officially designated as June's Mistress of Understatement.

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@puka_pai: well it's not nice to scare someone off when they are willing to show up and resolve the OP's issue like this. it's sure as heck better than 'taking it seriously'

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Hehehe, they bought a beanbag chair. Hehe

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@Sumo Omni:

Andrew,

I have had similar problems dealing with Sumo Lounge and "Mindy." Over the holidays I ordered am Omni. My order was not shipped until the 6th of January 2009 and I received it on the 14th. I wrote in the same day I received it that I was having problems with the Omni and was seeking a solution or an RMA. I never received a response.

I wrote another letter to sumo on the 19th. This went unanswered until the 28th of January. It was "Mindy" (who also called herself Pamela) that answered my email. I responded the same day, This time to Mindy's personal email restating the problems I was having and asking for a solution. That email went unanswered.

After that I lost interest in resolving the issue. the return period had closed and just accepted that I had wasted my money (On a $150 bean bag) and time dealing with Omni.

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This is not an isolated problem. I have had similar problems dealing with Sumo Lounge and "Mindy." Over the holidays I ordered am Omni. My order was not shipped until the 6th of January 2009 and I received it on the 14th. I wrote in the same day I received it that I was having problems with the Omni and was seeking a solution or an RMA. I never received a response.

I wrote another letter to sumo on the 19th. This went unanswered until the 28th of January. It was "Mindy" (who also called herself Pamela) that answered my email. I responded the same day, This time to Mindy's personal email restating the problems I was having and asking for a solution. That email went unanswered.

After that I lost interest in resolving the issue. the return period had closed and just accepted that I had wasted enough of my time dealing with Omni! I could have charged it back but in the end I had paid for $150 for a nylon sack of foam. my mistake I guess.

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Although expensive, Liberator has awesome "bean bags."

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@Sumo Omni:
I agree with catastrophegirl that it takes a lot of guts to post on a website like this and offer a solution.

I'm happy to hear that Mindy is not only a very nice person, but is being diverted to a more appropriate position for her skills.

I hope Eric takes Andrew up on his offer to make things right. Everybody loves a happy ending!

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@floraposte: I think maybe katstermonster is referring to the fact that Mindy said she'd read the entire email when she didn't. Now I just sucked all the funny out of it.

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For anyone else looking for a bean bag: [www.cordaroys.com] Great over the top service.

Yeah, the answer here is charge back.

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@xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter: I had a terrible experience with actually GETTING my sumo from them, but once it was here, the product itself is great. Took me two months to finally receive it, after they had billed me within six hours of purchase, and when I did, the box it came in looked like I went thru an artillery range, but it's still a great beanbag.

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@Sumo Omni: Can't tell if this is a gag or not. I mean, not being able to count to two?

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We have ordered from them on 3 - 4 different occasions (not in the last 18 months, though). The communication was never great (Did we actually submit an order? Did they accept it?) but the old (original) products were fantastic and magically in a couple of weeks after ordering, the products would appear.

The NASA-type space material was the only kind of bean bag we could have that wouldn't be destroyed by cats. Over the course of a couple of years, we ordered 2 Omni chairs and 2 footstools, as well as replacement bean bag bits. This was our entire livingroom furniture for the longest time!

Sadly, since they changed their product line, they no longer supply the replacement filler for the old chairs. The bags *do* deflate eventually, and need to be refilled.

But the original, spage-age nylon material omnis were the best chairs ever if you have cats with claws. It's a good product, and we were never left holding the bean-bag chair.

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@Sumo Omni: Apparently it is company policy not to use punctuation.

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Maybe he should escalate to Mork.

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I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, because really, offering the free chairs is a wonderful resolution and responding so quickly is commendable. The response implies excellent customer service.

HOWEVER, when I was having my issues and started wandering around online looking for other people's experiences, I got heavy implication that, when in the spotlight, Sumo Lounge appears to have fantastic service (sponsored reviews, conventions, etc) but when it comes to actually dealing with customers, it's a mess. Hopefully their response isn't merely a way to negate the review and they'll actually follow through on improving customer service.

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Sumo Omni: 2) Mindy is a very nice person & tries her best (she is not a bean bag) but as of next week she will be relieveD of customer service & more attentive people will be handling this in the future. This is something that has been in the works over the last few weeks

She is not a bean bag <- gold, baby. Gold.

Is Mindy being shifted to a new department or given new duties, or is she being let go? Unless she is completely dysfunctional and this isn't a 1-time problem, I don't think the trouble with Eric's order process would necessitate dismissal.

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We are actually going to follow through & improve our customer service !!!

Being in retail can be difficult & we are certainly a market leader when it comes to bean bags.

Last year we have focused a lot on growth (new products, new factories) but time to take a step back now & reorganize our customer service.

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@catastrophegirl - brand new homeowner: She's text message her customer service

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Now that there is a problem with the item shipment, he should file a complaint with the BBB and dispute charges with his Credit Card Company.


Also, I think the young lady in the bean bag is incredibly hot!


-dave

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@katstermonster: I'm sorry - all I saw was "kthnxbai" - I don't understand what all those other words say. It's like people inserted more vowels and expanded my txt msg vocab.