Edmund Scientific Jacks Up Price After Shopper Authorizes Payment

Update: Diane says the problem has been resolved.

Edmund Scientific has contacted me and offered to refund the $13 difference. Although they did lay some of the blame on me for clicking the link they have also said this has been a recurring problem that they will look into further.

The best part is that I got so many great links to check out from other Consumerist readers!

Do any readers know of science supply company like Edmund Scientific that isn’t Edmund Scientific? Diane likes buying from them, but they recently pulled a bait and switch on a discount code they’d emailed her, and now instead of responding to her repeated queries, they just keep sending her new promotions.

I’m an avid reader and am dealing with an issue regarding an order I placed with Edmund Scientific.

I just found their website this week and after placing my first order and receiving it, I decided to buy my mother her birthday gift from their site as well. Having received a minimum of 3 marketing emails from them since my order, I just opened one and jumped to their site from that email.

I picked out her gift, added a small item for myself, and went to check out. I input a free shipping code and came to the confirmation page. My order would be $90.82.

Everything looked great so I hit the big SUBMIT ORDER button which immediately sealed the deal on the order… but for the amount of $103.20.

It was too late to do anything but call. I asked the rep how I could be charged $103 when I only authorized and confirmed a price of $90 but she blamed it on the fact that I got to their site through a link with a promo discount built in (which is true) and that the website at the last step in my order revoked that promotion… she just kept repeating this without listening to me, so I just hung up at that point.

Even if her explanation is right, how can they pull this bait-and-switch with my order? I have since sent the two emails below and have only gotten more marketing emails from them (ex: 12% off your next order!) and no personal response at all. Like I say in my email [to them], I don’t want to get more than I paid for, but I do expect to only be charged the amount I agreed to. I have since received the order so I’m not sure a chargeback or dispute is an option.

I like Edmund Scientific and being an admitted science geek with my own microscope always in need of supplies, I hope to resolve this issue with them so I can continue placing orders.

I would love to see this on Consumerist at least to get this company’s attention or some advice. It’s only $13 but it’s just unsettling to place an order and be overcharged with no warning and I don’t want to just let it go… I could get a huge supply of slides with that $13!!!

You can try contacting Timothy Burns, the General Manager of Edmund Scientific, at his personal work address. We don’t know if this will work, but we just tried a shotgun approach at a variety of email addresses and this one went through, so maybe you can reach him here:

tburns@edsci.com

You can certainly send back the item for a full refund if you can’t get a reasonable solution from Edmund Scientific, and if they refuse, you can then pursue a chargeback. It sounds, however, like your valid questions are falling into some sort of customer service black hole, so if you can succeed in reaching this Burns guy it’s likely he’ll resolve the issue—and be glad to find out that his CSRs aren’t doing their jobs properly. (If you reach him and he doesn’t, let us know!)

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  1. henwy says:

    It’s not uncommon. Same thing happened with hickery farms right after christmas. The problem is that the T&C of most coupons/discounts is they’re not stackable. So if you go to the site through a F&F portal or other discount link, it already has the discount applied. You cannot add another coupon to it and it’s automatically stripped out when you click to confirm your order.

    I ended up calling and had the order canceled, which many others had to do as well. A couple were bitching that they should have gotten both offers honored or the entire order free, but it seemed a bit ridiculous and excessive to me. The coupon listed the exclusions but it was a shot in the dark. Never know until you try.

    • Coles_Law says:

      @henwy: In an ironic twist, the 12% discount they offered her for her next order would ‘fix’ her current order.

    • mrscoach says:

      @henwy: She should have been informed BEFORE confirming her order, when she could still back out, that she couldn’t use two promotions. I’ve done this on sites before, and as soon as I put in the code for the second promotion I got a message that it wasn’t permissable. Why couldn’t they have done this? I, too, think this is bait and switch. Why couldn’t every company just say “Well, you should have known you couldn’t do that, so we can just nullify all discounts and charge whatever we want”?

      When you confirm an order you are saying “I agree to pay $X for Y product”, so the business doesn’t have a right to charge something different than was agreed to, or to give a product that wasn’t agreed to.

      • henwy says:

        @mrscoach:

        That’s the whole point. The system doesn’t recognize it as a second discount because only 1 code has been entered. It doesn’t strip it until you submit the order, which still gives you plenty of time to cancel it. Despite the common erroneous belief, they’re not obligated to give you the lower price just because you clicked submit order for it if it was a mistake or if it violated the ToS of the coupon to begin with.

        I dunno how the site is set up, but if they’re smart they have the same language that amazon has where the order isn’t considered submitted until they email you with the order summary. That’s where the price bump would be in a case like this.

        • WraithSama says:

          @henwy:
          No, you appear to be confused on one point. Reread her email. She says that the price that was shown up to the confirm order point was what she agreed to, and the higher price wasn’t shown to her until AFTER she clicked the make purchase button. She clearly states that the higher price was shown to her after she placed the order. Therefore, she did NOT have a chance to cancel due to the higher price before placing the order.

          • supercereal says:

            @WraithSama: I think he meant that most sites will allow you to cancel your order before it ships (like here), even after you make the purchase.

    • jf8201 says:

      @henwy: I wouldn’t necessarily assume that “jumping to the site” from the email was adding a discount. I go to a lot of sites that way, because it’s easier than looking up the site or typing it in. In fact in all the email links I’ve used, I can’t remember any of them automatically adding a discount to my order. Is it possible that this one did add a discount but without her knowledge?

      If that’s the case, then who would be at fault here? Technically, it did violate the terms (assuming it had such terms), but they should have had a way for her to know what discounts were applied and why (a sale might be treated differently than a coupon). Further, it should automatically give her the option to cancel if the price went above the amount she approved regardless of why it went up.

      • Anonymous says:

        @jf8201: Yes, that’s exactly what happened. I had no idea the prices I saw were already discounted, there was no mention of a discount or promo at all until I called and the rep told me that because I had used their link I was not able to see actual prices.

        Also, there was no way to cancel the order either. Their confirmation email said to reply to that email if there were any problems, which I did twice, but I got no response before my order shipped the next day.

        • henwy says:

          @UmekoMagumpus:

          Just for future reference, you should probably call CS in a case like this rather than depend upon email when it comes to canceling an order. The turnaround time for an email response can be up to a week at many places.

          I don’t understand what the problem is now though. Are they refusing to issue a shipping label or something? Just send the damn stuff back and get a refund or keep it and pay the cost of shipping.

          • CheritaChen says:

            @henwy: I don’t understand why you keep saying you don’t understand what the problem is. Yes, she can try to return the stuff. But she shouldn’t have to, because she shouldn’t have been able to click “Submit” with the wrong total presented. Yes, it sounds likely that this is a flaw in the design of the merchant POS application. But that is an explanation, not an excuse.

            Problem: merchant charged her more than she agreed to pay.

            Her solution may be one of several possible, but the ultimate reason to post here is to make others, and the merchant’s executive(s), aware that this problem exists and needs to be fixed. If they’d responded to her (two) email messages, or the CSR on the phone had acknowledged that what happened should not have happened (rather than reiterating over and over why it happened, similar to your comments), she’d probably not be here now.

            • henwy says:

              @CheritaChen:

              Because for most companies, the deal isn’t finalized when you hit submit. It’s in their ToS that it’s the emailed invoice and they only charge your card with the item ships. Thus, her argument that she should get to keep the items and pay less is only going to work because of the largess of the company, but based on some sort of misplaced belief in ‘her rights’. The solution is to either pay for the items, or send them back.

  2. Sure I could agree with you, but then we'd BOTH be wrong. says:

    Wow, my dad used to buy me kits from them when I was a kid…. I didn’t know the company was still around!

  3. STrRedWolf says:

    Try American Science and Surplus, at Sciplus.com (Check that with Google).

    • nekussa says:

      @STrRedWolf: Yeah, I love them!

    • catastrophegirl chooses not to fly says:

      @STrRedWolf: i LOVE amsci!

    • bobert says:

      @STrRedWolf: OMG STrRedWold – I love you!

      American Science and Surplus is the successor to JERRYCO, which used to put out a catalog with various names including “Nugatory Contrivances”, which I got thirty-ish years ago. They had the craziest stuff, and people would write in and say, “Yeah, glad I bought you out of those doodads you were selling for five cents because you didn’t know what they were – I recognized them as very rare tosylating goniomometers worth $83,000 each.”

    • Hawkins says:

      @STrRedWolf: I love American Science and Surplus ([www.sciplus.com] is correct). They have strange stuff for cheap, and their copy is funny:

      Is that a microscope in your pocket, or are you just excited by science?

    • Eyebrows McGee (now with double the baby!) says:

      @STrRedWolf: GOD I LOVE THAT CATALOG.

      One of these times I’m in Chicago I’m going to their actual store.

      (I got a set of watchmaker’s cases from them for a few bucks — probably $9.99 for cases in 4 sizes — that in a regular tool catalog cost $40 and in a gardening catalog cost $60. EXACT same product. Gardeners use them to store seeds over the winter; my husband has them taking up tons of space in our fridge.)

  4. Coles_Law says:

    Since it was asked, Arbor Scientific is another I’ve used with good success (arborsci.com), but aside from the somewhat excessive promotion emails, I’ve never had a problem with Edmund.

  5. henwy says:

    @Coles_Law:

    It probably wouldn’t since she wouldn’t be able to stack it with the discount portal she’s already using.

    The first CS seems to have explained the issue pretty well as to what happened. Certainly I understood it from the simple summary. I dunno what she doesn’t get about it at this point. If she doesn’t want to pay for the price as is, send it back and get a refund. I’ll bet dollars to donuts she won’t even have to pay shipping if she calls for a RMA because of the mixup. I can only assume she wants to keep the items and she also wants to pay less than she should.

    • catastrophegirl chooses not to fly says:

      @henwy: the issue i would have with this is that the discount was stripped from the order AFTER the submit button was hit. to be fair, it should have said ‘that discount isn’t applicable to this order’ and given the OP a chance to cancel.

      • henwy says:

        @catastrophegirl – brand new homeowner:

        She says she got the notice immediately after that the price had increased. There was a lot of time for her to cancel and I’m not sure why she didn’t. I certainly did when it came to my order.

        As for why it doesn’t catch this earlier, I think it’s just a basic flaw in the basic package for these ordering systems. I’ve read about many instances where this exact same thing happens and it’s always because of a ‘portal’ discount clashing with a coupon code discount at the very end. All in all, I’m willing to bet her coupon says it cannot be combined so she was always taking a shot in the dark.

        • trujunglist says:

          @henwy:

          Every site I’ve used will end up rejecting the code before you actually hit the submit button. I wasn’t aware that there were sites that would only reject it once the order had actually gone through. I’m not saying I don’t believe you because I certainly do; it actually wouldn’t surprise me.

    • coren says:

      @henwy: Actually I think that *is* the discount portal she’s using. Then she puts in a code for free shipping, which nixes the portal and drives her order price up.

      I think.

    • mmmsoap says:

      @henwy: I don’t think it’s about paying less that she should, it’s more about the portal software being broken. I mean, would you be totally okay with it if she had approved the $90 purchase, only to be hit with a $1000 charge on the other end? There’s a reason why you have to approve payments, and my understanding was that (although I could be wrong) it was illegal for a merchant to charge anything other than the approved amount.

      • Kogenta says:

        @mmmsoap: The thing is, with most online stores, they don’t actually charge you anything until the product actually ships. At the point where you click confirm order they send you an email invoice.
        Not exactly quite the same thing since there’s no confirmation that you will pay the “new” price, but at the same time, most places (not sure if it’s the case here) allow you to cancel an order at no charge unless it’s entered the shipping process.

        I will agree that their software is somewhat flawed, most places do not have the confimation button on a screen that allows you to enter any information in my experiance. The confim button is ussually shows exactly what you’ll get on the invoice and only has a confirm or cancel/back button. That way you can’t get this problem as the system will have already detect the promotion conflict on the previous page where you enter codes and stuff.

      • henwy says:

        @mmmsoap:

        You would be wrong in the vast majority of cases. There’s a reason most companies online don’t charge your card until shipping and they’ve sent you an invoice to your email. It’s added protection for them in the case of pricing errors like this. There are a couple of good legal articles on this sort of thing if you search around for it. Amazon changed their ToS specifically to defend against this a few years ago and not charging cards until shipping so only the email’ed invoice would count.

  6. subtlefrog says:

    Depends on what she’s looking for, but Forestry Suppliers has been good to me. Also Carolina Biological is useful, though I have to begrudgingly admit to getting a lot of scientific equipment off Amazon these days. Just consumables, like cotton swabs, tubes, etc., but they can have competitive prices.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Home Science Tools, also known as Home Training Tools, provides science supplies and equipment like microscopes and slides. They originally started in the home schooling business, but also serve the hobby scientist as well.

  8. crashfrog says:

    My wife orders lab supplies from Fischer, chemicals from Sigma-Aldrich, and entomology supplies from Bioquip (kill jars, Cornell drawers, pins, nets, etc.)

    • Coles_Law says:

      @crashfrog: I’ve found Fisher can be slow to ship though, but they’ve certainly got most places beat in terms of variety of lab supplies. They’re not really in the same vein as Edmund though.

  9. feckingmorons says:

    Have you thought about asking to speak with a customer service supervisor. Perhaps the young woman you spoke with simply did not understand your concern.

    Why hang up on people. You made the effort to call; simply tell her that you appreciate the information she has provided, but wish to speak to her supervisor so you don’t have to refuse the shipment.

  10. coren says:

    Like Henwy said, this is competing coupons – they’re not stacking. The link from her email was likely a 10 or 12 percent discount (not in the mood for math), but the free shipping code she had more than likely killed that in order to get her free shipping. It’s a matter of one or the other can be used.

    Which isn’t to say this is her fault – how would she know that? Most sites where this can take place will inform you of what happened and give you the choice (or you can just remove one discount and then add the one you want, or similar). Apparently, this one didn’t – which means they should eat the difference this time.

    • nucwin83 says:

      @coren: Yeah, very bad design. When you hit submit order, if something is wrong, the system needs to kick it back and have the customer resubmit with the proper price.

      Accepting at a lower price, then presenting the customer with a receipt for a higher price is asking for trouble.

  11. David Small says:

    I guess I’ll be one of the first “blame the customer” posts this time: Didn’t she check the price before clicking on “submit order?” I understand and empathize with her frustration, but who doesn’t double check everything (cost, payment method, shipping address at the very least) before submitting the order?

    • tsume says:

      @David Small: The story to me reads that everything indicated 90 dollars on the screen with the “submit order” button, and after she clicked it it went to the higher price. A properly-coded checkout system would never cause this.

    • twophrasebark says:

      @David Small:

      It sounds like she did check the price.

      “Everything looked great so I hit the big SUBMIT ORDER button which immediately sealed the deal on the order… but for the amount of $103.20.

    • katstermonster says:

      @David Small: I guess I’ll be one of the “blame the commenter” posts this time: Didn’t you read the article before clicking on Start a new discussion?

      All obnoxious sarcasm aside, the article very clearly states that the price CHANGED after clicking SUBMIT ORDER. Unless the OP is lying or fudging…she absolutely checked the price. The reasonable explanation for the issue (competing coupons) is listed before your comment.

  12. tsume says:

    You can chargeback the disputed portion of the amount, if I recall correctly.

    • hills says:

      @tsume: YES – I agree – then you keep the product and paid what you agreed to pay. I’ve done a partial chargeback before – no problem.

  13. MyTQuinn says:

    The issue here is not that coupons can or cannot be stacked, but rather when in the checkout process the check for non-stackable coupons and the resulting price correction occurs. There’s no question here that the site/retailer is in the wrong, and needs to offer a refund including return shipping (it was their mistake), or honor the price that the customer agreed to when placing the order.

  14. pmcpa4 says:

    the OP hints that she was trying to stack discounts, maybe they stated can not be combined? If they did, they they are not at fault.

    • nucwin83 says:

      @pmcpa4: If your total page states a specific price and you hit Submit Order, one of two things should happen.

      A) the order is placed with a charge for the amount SHOWN

      B) the order is NOT placed and the customer is notified that there was a problem with the order and give them the opportunity to resubmit with the appropriate information provided

      That’s it. There is no option C. E-commerce 101.

  15. fantomesq says:

    Which price was RIGHT though? Was the first price on the confirmation page lower than it should have been due to the stacked discounts? If the final price was the price that the customer SHOULD have expected, SHE is in the wrong pushing for the lower price… if there really was no meeting of the minds on price, just return the order.

    • hedonia says:

      @fantomesq: It doesn’t matter which price was right. The amount that you authorize and confirm has to be the amount that they charge you, period. If they think that the price should have been higher, they should have rejected the order, not charged a higher price.

    • lannister80 says:

      @fantomesq: No way, Exmond is at fault. If there system shows you a “check your order before you submit” page, and it shows one price, but AFTER CLICKING SUBMIT it shows you were charged a different price, they either need to cancel the order or honor the original price.

    • katstermonster says:

      @fantomesq: What are you smoking? Should the OP have predicted, without any warning, that the coupons could not be combined?

      Also, we’re talking about fraud here. She authorized one amount and was charged another. That kind of defeats the purpose of even authorizing credit card charges, doesn’t it? If we start blaming the consumer for issues like this, it’s open season for false charges, with no recourse. Enjoy that.

  16. RandomHookup says:

    15 yard penalty on Consumerist for misuse of “bait and switch”. You could call it deceptive advertising or fraudulent business practices, but not B&S.

    Bait and switch operates like this: Store advertises something at a very attractive price, but doesn’t mention limited quantities. You show up and they don’t have any in stock, but they *do* have this model over here for just a bit more. They “baited” you with an attractive offer, but “switched” it once you showed up.

    Nobody switched anything in this situation, but the prices.

    • Verucalise (Est.February2008) says:

      @RandomHookup: Very true, but I think they were reusing the OP’s own language to show her frustrations. I know I’d be pissed if on the submit order screen was one amount, then a completely different UNAUTHORIZED amount on the confirmation page.

      Personally, I would of refused the shipment if it happened that way and customer service was unwilling to budge on the $13.

  17. CyGuy says:

    Just wanted to leave a comment that I had a similar experience with cosmetics co Yves Rocher from whom I had made an online purchase taking advantage of a deal I first read about here on Consumerist. After I’d completed the purchase they sent me a shipment notification with a link to a copy of the invoice. The new invoice included shipping charges which hadn’t been included on the original purchase thanks to the coupon code I had heard about via the Morning Deals post here. I immediately called Customer Service (btw, they have lovely sounding CSR’s with thick French accents, probably a great idea for reducing ‘attitude’ from disgruntled customers that a lot of companies could benefit from) but was told that I would have to talk to the supervisor regarding any refund – and the supervisor wasn’t available atm. I left my phone number and a couple of days later got a voicemail that refunding the shipping was not possible and that Free Shipping should not have been available using that coupon code.

    I had written off the $5, given that the purchase was still a good overall value, and that I couldn’t locate the PDF of the original invoice I thought would be advisable to have to protest the matter any further.

    But then two days ago, over a month after the purchase, a customer account rep called to ask my overall satisfaction with the company. I let her have it, told her to drop me from their mailing list and that I would not be doing any further business with a company that I consider to have ripped me off for $5. I didn’t not make any request for a refund from this CSR since I expected that matter had been settled. However, she apologized AND informed me the shipping charges would be reversed back to my card.

  18. katstermonster says:

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Thorlabs!!!!

    I <3 Thorlabs. Amazing service, super fast shipping, and LAB SNACKS. Learn it, know it, love it! I use them for optical equipment, but not microscopy…I don’t know how that end of things is, but I’ll bet their quality carries across the board.

  19. HogwartsAlum says:

    You really have to watch websites sometimes. I ordered something from a miniatures site, and they had a default on the site that automatically set the quantity of items at two instead of one. When I ordered I didn’t realize it until I got my box and there was two of everything.

    I called them and even though they don’t normally take returns on books, they let me return the duplicate of the book I ordered. I decided to keep the extra little furniture because I could use it. Now when I order from them I’m really careful to check the quantity before I advance the page.

  20. Edmund Scientific says:

    We’re working with the editors at Consumerist to try to reach Diane to help her with her order.

    As many posters have commented, our offer codes cannot be combined. When you enter a new offer code, your total recalculates to reflect the newest offer before you click submit.

    We also recently opened a Twitter account (@edmundsci) to provide another avenue for our web-savvy customers to contact us. Feel free to @edmundsci us or even follow us, if you want to send DMs.

  21. shepd says:

    @henwy:

    Despite the common erroneous belief, they’re not obligated to give you the lower price just because you clicked submit order for it if it was a mistake or if it violated the ToS of the coupon to begin with.

    This strongly depends. Since, AFAIK, there’s no case law for this, it is time for someone to sue and make it.

    When it comes to a cash transaction in a B&M store, the moment the clerk accepts payment is the moment the B&M store is bound, by law, to honour *any* slip-up they have made. No matter how stupid. The only exceptions are out-and-out fraud, extortion, or theft.

    Trying to “misuse” a coupon isn’t fraud (unless you actually hacked the website), the law would consider it an offer to bargain.

  22. Diane I Fitch says:

    I just want to clarify a few things: 1.@feckingmorons Of course I didn’t “hang up” on the rep, I politely ended the call…I assumed that would be understood.

    2. As jf8201 stated and the rep confirmed, going to their website from their email (or even from a google link) automatically shows the discounted prices, I had no way of knowing what the actual prices were. I wasn’t even aware that I was not seeing the actual prices.

    3. There was no way to cancel the order, as stated in the confirmation email, if there are any problems you should send them an email, which I did twice, but got no response before the order shipped the next day.

    There was no stacking of coupons or anything fraudulent and I have a screen shot of the order page with the total price before I hit SUBMIT and it increased which I have sent to the company three times now.

    Thanks Consumerist for running the story, at the least I’ve got some great links from other readers!

    • Edmund Scientific says:

      @Diane I Fitch:

      Hi Diane-

      I’m sorry you had such a poor experience with Edmund Scientific!

      To address your comments in #2. Yes, clicking through the link in the email automatically applies the promotion code mentioned in the email. (We do include language in the promo emails that indicate this and that multiple offers cannot be combined.) So in the end, you did unknowingly apply the free shipping code over the original automatically-applied code, which changed your shopping cart total unexpectedly. I do agree this is a confusing situation and we will work to make the promotion/checkout process more explicit. I cannot commit to a date, but I do know we are completely re-designing our checkout in the near future. I will make sure we implement improvements in this area.

      I would also like to apologize for the poor customer service and lack of email response. We have already been in touch with our customer service lead this morning to determine how your emails slipped through. To help, we’ve set up a Twitter account, as mentioned above, to better serve our web-savvy customers in real time.

      Were you able to send an email to Tim Burns (address in post) yet? I know he has been in touch with the Consumerist editors to get your contact information. If not, please send him (and myself, if possible) an email. I can be reached at jdettbarn AT vwreducation.com

      We’ll be in touch.

      Best regards,
      Jason

  23. DeeJayQueue says:

    I used to go to to Edmond Scientific all the time when I was a kid. They had (have?) a storefront in central NJ with a surplus room unmatched in the world. Want a little DC motor? They’ve got every size. Want a bin full of old camera shutters? Got it. Want a tote full of Commodore 64 keyboards? Got it. See where I’m going here? Unfortunately either they’ve gone stealth or shuttered the storefront as I can find no mention of it online anymore, only the online shopping experience. Granted it’s still pretty cool if you want to by like Capscella or something.

    I think the company got sold to a larger reseller chain, and when that happened they stopped being the great, weird old store and became a no-customer-service having monolith with no real HQ.

    I’m sorry that the OP had a bad experience, and I really had nothing constructive to contribute other than my childhood reminiscence.

  24. FrankenPC says:

    FrankenPC’s A**H*** axiom:

    If a company screws me over, they’ve probably screwed over a LOT of other people as well.

    Don’t shop there. Let them die.

  25. Diane I Fitch says:

    Hi Jason,
    Thanks so much for your response on here and by email. Tim Burns and I have also been in contact and I appreciate his willingness to credit my account for the price difference and your efforts to take a look at the problem more closely in the future.

  26. nycdesigner says:

    WOW! This is one of the first posts I’ve read where the company reps went out of their way to publicly comment on their problems with Diane, and seem to be going out of their way to remedy the situation.

    For someone like me who gets so worked up about getting screwed, I am amazed!

    I’m sure I’ll have plenty of opportunity to bitch and moan about my various foibles as they come up.

  27. TheDude06 says:

    NASCO is a fantastic competetor of edmund scientific. I grew up very near one of their retail outlets and can say they have fantastic customer service

  28. henwy says:

    @trujunglist:

    It’s because it’s a portal discount clashing. All systems have something where you can’t enter 2 coupon codes (assuming coupons don’t stack at the site). That’s a pretty easy thing to set up. For some reason though, discounts through portals aren’t flagged as such until the very end when everything is tallied. It’s not till then that it clashes with the previously entered coupon.

  29. Ezra Ekman says:

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    Oh, and check out the greatest banner ad ever created – “Looking for some URANIUM?” *guffaw*