Dear Trent Reznor,

Get over it.

@pecan 3.14159265: He makes a good point though.

@U-235: I agree he does make a good point...and I'm a NIN fan, and have been for a long time, but at some point I feel like he's being kind of prissy about it.

Everything he says is completely true.

Maybe next time he'll re-think his idea for a "shake the farting baby to the rhythm of The Downward Spiral" app.

I'm confused about Reznor. Does this qualify as nerd rage, or is it roid rage now?

"Also, everything he says is completely true" +1

Damn Trent....You've changed man. You losing your cool man!

@pecan 3.14159265: HE is being prissy...?

@pecan 3.14159265: Oh come on! The line: "I just saw two guys having explicit anal sex right there in Safari! On my iPhone!" actually made me laugh out loud!

I thought he had gone "soft" over the years, but apparently he's gotten a lot funnier.

@pecan 3.14159265: Dear Apple Fanboy: you first.

This man have every right to voice his objection to Apple's policy (and what he considers inconsistencies in the policy). I fail to see how this is "censorship", however. When did Apple or Wal-Mart give up their right to not carry a product and why do they have to justify that to anyone?

@Ratty:
+1

Buried underneath the childish explitives, he does have a good point. If he can manage to speak like an adult (or hire someone to rewrite his rants), maybe Apple will listen.

Well both Apple and Walmart were on options in the WCIA.

Apple can sometimes have it head stuck up its ...

While I agree with everything he's bringing up (it is ridiculous to force bands to edit their CDs but not force games or movies to do the same), what's with the slam at Nirvana? It's the only other band he brings up, seemingly only to tell everyone that "Hey ya'll Nirvana kowtowed to Big Business!"

@pecan 3.14159265: He's making a legitimate point. If anyone is being prissy, it's Apple. He is pointing out the hypocrisy and inconsistency of Apple.

It's effed the fuck up that they approved his app, but now won't approve bug fixes because of the word fuck.

@dwhuntley: How is complaining about the lameness of Apple "losing his cool"? He is speaking truth.

What he says makes sense though. Especially if you look at it through the concept of the cultural diamond (and a little bit of Gans).
People obtain meanings through the media. If the uncensored albums aren't there, there's not much to stop them from obtaining it through the other uncensored media that Walmart is selling.
Also, if you try to say that "Scarface" is Art, while NIN is only art, that doesn't really fly. There is no legitimate difference between "high class art" (Art with a capital A) and "low class or popular art" (art with a lower a). All art is equal and any differences depend solely on who you ask.

@HiPwr: It is a form of cencsorship. Even if they have that right, it doesn't make it not censorship.

@vladthepaler: Aawww, he said fuck! Oh no.

@LJKelley: That's the main reason why I'm a little dismissive of his rant..it's anger, pure and simple, laden with expletives that are unnecessary to make a good point. The only reason he's being heard on this is because he's a musician who is respected when it comes to things like fighting censorship in music...but how he comes across is ineffective at best, ridiculous at worst, and won't actually solve the problem.

@pecan 3.14159265: Sorry, above post was not to LJKelley, it was to vladtheimpaler.

@korybing: He wanted to tell everyone how srs Wal*Mart was to get Cobain to rise up from the grave and re-do the songs.

They mean business.

@vladthepaler: Oh, no. He said Fuck.

I wanna text you like an animal

I wanna Digg you from the inside

You Tweet me closer to God

@vladthepaler: Oh my goodness, he said the word cunt! Imagine that!

/offended
/sarcasm

This is also one of the biggest pieces of angsturbation I've seen. And I've seen harry potter slash forums.

The man has a valid point. Just a really ineffective presentation. it feels like it needs a preface of "dear Livejournal,"

"I butthurt myself today

to see if I still fail..."

@sicknick: I just saw two guys having explicit anal sex right there in Safari! On my iPhone!

If that part is true...well, I just didn't realize...not that there's anything wrong etc.

Hey... at least he didn't spoil the ending to X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

@Jakuub: Well said.

@pecan 3.14159265: @pecan 3.14159265: @pecan 3.14159265: learn how to reply on this site.

@pecan 3.14159265: dear pecan pie, shut the hell up.

this is a serious issue. the approval process is ridiculous and needs to be scrutinized by someone with a loud enough voice. He's right on all accounts, and your one line comment doesn't refute anything. next time.. don't say anything.

Why the hell was Trent Reznor watching two men having explicit anal sex?

@dwhuntley: yeah, god forbid anyone ever feel passionate about anything at all.. especially something you created being shot down or hrmed for unnecessary reasons.

@vladthepaler: maybe if you were a genius you'd be able to speak however you want as well.. but you're not.. so...

@nakedscience: Censorship in a private forum.

NIN used to be amazing. I thought that they couldn't get any lower after releasing Perfect Drug - I wanted to like it so badly - I tried to like it - it just sucked - the muse was gone. Now this is just sad - poor D-bag is trying to cash in on his golden years when he was actually good at somthing, and cries like a little biz when apple stands in his way. Reminds me of Al Bundy talking about his HS football games.... What is next for Trent? Playing accustic solo "Hurt" in the lounge at the airport hilton for a free sandwich and tips?

@ PixelProphet: You're probably new here...if you had paid any attention, the last few days Consumerist has had glitches and the reply function isn't working for most people. Learn to catch up with the rest of the class.

@vladthepaler: Well, saying "fuck" got him a Grammy(TM). I guess it works some of the time.

@HiPwr: I wonder what would have happened if Nirvana and everyone else didn't break down and change everything, instead choosing to not let their albums be sold at Wal-Mart. Do you think Wal-Mart would have relented? After all, it's a revenue stream for them as well.

But, the policies are fairly inconsistent, only certain things are blocked but others aren't.

Of course, I don't use Apple products, so it's not as huge an issue with me.

@pecan 3.14159265: Meanwhile, you can buy the app "Akapee" for $1. It's a virtual urination simulator. So, hearing an f-bomb is apparently enough to scar a child's life but a virtual urination simulator that lets you... enjoy the realm of taking a ePiss is fun for the whole family.

But hey, it's Apple, the family friendly company that highlighted "Milshake" as a chart topping song on the front page of the iTunes store a while back. Because nothing's ever wrong with a dumptruck of innuendo.

@pecan 3.14159265: I agree, not because Trent is wrong, but because people don't care. That's why he should get over it.

He bitched and whined about Walmart censorship. He carried the good flag and waved it about and yet consumers still bought up the stuff. He's doing it again and pointing out Apple's hypocrisy but, hey, you know it's not going to slow down iPhone apps nor increase jailbreaking.

Righteous indignation doesn't suit a man his age.

You have to "confirm" that you're old enough to buy the explicit song, why not just do the same for the app?

Then it's not a double standard...

Same thing with there being a "clean" version of the song and app.

Not to defend Wal-mart or anything, but I'm sure they got sick of carding kids for buying CDs, since not everyone is aware of the idea of an "explicit" CD, compared to like, an "R" movie. So they invented the "clean" copy, and all way good. And admittedly, it's a lot easier to censor a CD than a movie... honestly, it's not a 100% fair comparison.

Technically, you should be carded to buy that Scarface or GTA, just like you would an "explicit" NIN CD. But Wal-mart is lazy and doesn't care, so they just don't card people... that's Wal-mart's carding policy, not their censorship policy.

@vladthepaler:

Profanity is censored to protect the children.
But, profanity is childish.

*Head explodes*

Wow, there are a lot of prudes here. It must suck to have your work barred from a a large market for completely arbitrary reasons. I don't use a cell; do any phones match the ipod for functionality/popularity? I mean, could another company take advantage and market his product on their phone instead? NIN fans are likely to be tech savvy and sensitive to issues like this, judging from the way he's distributed his music in recent years. And I apologize if I'm totally misunderstanding the whole smart phone thing.

@vladthepaler: So, you're saying he doesn't need to have an opinion, but have his words filtered through a professional speech writer? That's like putting a condom on the freedom of speech. You're still talking, but now it's just a little safer.

@PixelProphet: it doesn't always work FYI

@vladthepaler: fuck you vlad