Amazon 12 Plate Set Looks A Lot Like 1 Plate
Here's an update from Bealls Florida.
On Monday, one of our readers clicked through a Morning Deal and purchased a set of 12 plates via Amazon. The deal clearly said it was a box of 12 plates, as does Amazon's listing. Pezstar received his order today, however, and it was just a single plate. Judging by the comments on the Amazon page, he wasn't the only one ripped off.
Pezstar writes,
On Monday, I noticed a link to Amazon in the morning deals post. It was an offer of 12 clear glass dinner plates for $2.99. I clicked straight to it, saw they were also offering a dozen salad plates and a dozen matching bowls, also for $2.99 per dozen.
I purchased all three.
Today, they arrived. I received one plate, one bowl, and one salad plate. Thinking I may have gotten mixed up, and feeling embarrassed, because I have absolutely no need for one place setting, I checked my Amazon orders. There is was, clear as day. 12 of them. I checked my confirmation email. 12 again.
I clearly don't need one place setting. I contacted the seller. We'll see what happens.
Our first thought was that this was another company doing business via Amazon and unaware of how to correctly price their items, but in fact it's sold by Amazon. Or is it Bealls? There's some confusion over just who's responsible for the mixup, and we hope Amazon sorts it out quickly and refunds the cheated customers their money.
Update: As we mentioned on Friday, it's still unclear whether Bealls Florida or Amazon is to blame for the pricing error. (Bealls Florida is explicitly blaming Amazon for the error in their communication with customers.) If you ordered the 12-piece set and received the single plate, you should probably follow the advice here from reader Tony Sina and file an A to Z claim with Amazon, and instead of a refund request that Amazon/Bealls fulfill your order per the original terms.
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I jumped on this deal as well and have yet to see my order. This is the email I received the day after from Amazon. It clearly states 'Box of 12' for all three items.
We're writing to confirm your purchase of the following items from Bealls Florida:
1 of Libbey Tempo 10-Inch Square Dinner Plate, Box of 12, Clear (available
to ship by March 18,2009)
1 of Libbey Tempo 8-Inch Square Salad/Dessert Plate, Box of 12, Clear
(available to ship by March 18,2009)
1 of Libbey Tempo 5-1/2-Inch Square Bowl, Box of 12, Clear (available to
ship by March 18,2009)
Amazon Payments has charged your credit card (Visa) for this purchase, and
the funds have been credited to Bealls Florida.
You have chosen to ship your order via Standard shipping. The delivery
estimate for this method to your address is 2 to 6 business days after
shipping. The actual delivery time for the item(s) in your order will
depend on the shipping policies of Bealls Florida and when the item(s) are
available to ship.
Good luck. I purchased the same items, and received single items rather than boxes, as well; Beall's said it's Amazon's fault, and refused to refund my money. I filed an A-to-Z claim with Amazon, but haven't heard anything from them. Beall's is claiming that they don't sell these items in boxes of 12... even though they are still listed on the Amazon website as boxes of 12. I'll wait to see what Amazon says before I contact American Express to contest the charge.
@coren: If you look at the actual listing it says "Box of 12" so there is no reason to believe they're selling them as individual pieces. This is hopefully a case of the vendor making a mistake on the listing and not an outright scam.
Same thing happened to me. I bought 12pc box each of bowls, dinner plates and salad plates; all marked as $2.99 per box. A couple of days later, I noticed a thread on SlickDeals regarding Amazon single-dish-deliveries so I decided to check on my order. I called Bealls Customer Service and spoke with a lady named Joy who was very pleasant and confirmed that they only shipped on dish each. She said that Bealls was aware of the problem and that I could just refuse the order when it arrives and they would credit my account back. Now I am just waiting to see if that actually happens. According to the CSR, it was a flub on Amazon's side.
For those stating that it was obvious on the site - it wasn't - here is my order directly copy and pasted from amazon:
Items purchased:
* 2 of: Libbey Tempo 8-Inch Square Salad/Dessert Plate, Box of 12, Clear
Condition: New
* 2 of: Libbey Tempo 10-Inch Square Dinner Plate, Box of 12, Clear
Condition: New
* 2 of: Libbey Tempo 5-1/2-Inch Square Bowl, Box of 12, Clear
Condition: New
It clearly states BOX OF 12
I bought this [tinyurl.com] at Amazon in January thinking I was gonna get two different rings. I got two the same. They still haven't corrected the photo. Even as I posted my feelings about the listing taking half the blame.
I wouldn't say it seems "too cheap". There's a Brick and Mortar wholesaler around here (Old Time Pottery) that sells bowls and plates, individually, for prices comparable to this. I'm talking 25 to 50 cents, maybe a few dollars for bigger dishes. It's not fantastically high quality, obviously, but there's some nice stuff.
Just saying, depending on the quality of the plates, they could easily be valued at 25 cents each. I'm thinking the buyers were definitely ripped off.
@Jan Scholl: Except in your case, unless you fail to read the description (you don't just shop based on photos, do you?), it's completely obvious what you'd be getting.
@Plates: I've only ever had one problem with Amazon. Figuring in hundreds of orders, I'm pretty happy with that. During my one mis-shipped order, I was able to talk to someone that was VERY English speaking. I think we talked and they were in Arizona.
I will say, it's rare any company has a call center that's not in India.
Its very easy for the company to give refunds here...but I'd still be mad that I didnt get this deal. It makes me mad that they can list something and have their merchandise sell, especially in this case where people saw one listing and got others from the same company because of it...
I only wish there were a law forcing the company to honor this listing rather than just refund those who complain and keep the cash of those who don't.
I often sell used items through Amazon. Amazon has twice changed listings and titles on products - changing "paperback" to "hardcover" for example - after I've listed my product. They don't inform you that they've done it either, so you may not catch until it's time to ship the order; meaning someone already ordered a product you don't have. Then you have to apologize for Amazon's mistake and offer a refund.
Not sure if that's what happened here, but it's one problem with Amazon's system. They should tell the seller if they're changing their listing.
I ordered one set of 12 salad plates ("Libbey Tempo 8-Inch Square Salad/Dessert Plate, Box of 12, Clear") and received one plate yesterday. Yes indeed, the order was for a set of twelve, not a single plate. The low-priced plates sold out quickly, and then the higher price that you're now seeing appeared. I wrote to the company to ask for the remaining eleven plates on my order. Assuming those of us who ordered don't receive our full order, what other recourse do we have?
It sounds great but for the most part buying local is only relevant at a locally owned business. And even then the owner probably buys all of their stuff on Amazon.
Please don't hope Amazon will rectify this situation, lay on them with the full force of The Consumerist.
A number of your readers (including myself) took advantage of the morning deal when we saw it posted and now we're getting hosed.
That's exactly the type of behavior this blog was meant to stop. So lay into Amazon and Beales until they promise a correction for everyone, rather than the run around they're getting now.
@Skaperen: that is exactly how I got a 900 dollar knife set for 120 bucks. Someone at amazon is a little quick with the clicking and less quick with the reviewing.
This type of listing is nothing new with Amamzon. If you check Fatwallet or SlickDeals you will see many postings of these multiple item deals for about what the one item would cost. OP's now list these with a YMMV caution. Amazon does a poor job of screening the listings for their outside sellers and sometimes even THEMSELVES!
@Brent Gueth: Can't really feel bad for you guys. I mean you took advantage of a price mistake, and got burned. The only real option at this point is getting a refund.
12 plates for $3 is most certainly a price mistake.
I'm in the boat with yous guys, ordered one of each box of 12 (dinner plates, salad plates, bowls), and got a fancy "dinner for one" setting.
Note/FYI - It was offered by Bealls at 2.99 for a box of 12 on the day of the deal, and now Amazon offers it directly from them at the price of 30-40 bucks.
I spoke to Amazon first, seeing that a lot of people got nowhere with Bealls (RE Seller Feedback), and Muriel P. from Amazon advised me of the following:
1)If the item is in stock (it was at the time), the seller is obligated to fulfill the order as per their agreement with Amazon.
2)I should work with the seller to see if they would be willing to provide a refund (assuming the item was NOT in stock, which it wasn't).
3)I can file an A to Z claim.
I spoke to Frederick (or Derek?-he provided me with his extension, regardless) at Bealls. I asked if he could assist me with an Amazon order, and I provided him the number.
I asked him to acknowledge that
a)My order form clearly stated "box of 12" for each (HE DID)
b)That I should have received 12 of each (HE DID)
c)That the 12-pc sets that I ordered were in-stock (HE DID)
It was then that I told him that I received one of each, that I already spoke with Amazon, and they advised me that you are required to fill my order as per your agreement.
He suddenly remembered a management directive regarding these particular items-he was advised to direct customers to Amazon to file an AtoZ claim.
What?
The conversation went around in a couple of circles, but what it boiled down to was I paid for 12, I was promised 12, they acknowledge 12, I get 1, Tough Go Get a Refund.
Problem is, I want what I ordered. I'm silly like that.
I was advised to either go back to Amazon and file a claim (which he acknowledged would only lead to a refund of money...), or to contact his supervisor Monday. So I guess I'll have to speak with Teresa Monday morning.
Called Amazon back, and Adolfo Q. had "never heard of this before (ie seller pretty much refusing to fulfill an order, which is essentially what is happening)".
AtoZ claims hurt the seller's credibility and ratings within Amazon, and apparently I can specifically request that the order be fulfilled rather than simply get a refund. That should not be a problem since the item is in stock, right? Evidently, the concern has been noted on my account and Adolfo insists that the matter will be investigated.
Should I speak to the seller's management before I file the AtoZ claim? How is this not a clear example of someone screwing up and covering up rather than acknowledging and correcting amicably?
And if I could say one more thing - and I mean no disrespect whatsoever - I find consumerist's response to this surprisingly ho-hum.
I follow this site on a daily basis (sometimes more than once a day), and I understand that posting a Morning Deal isn't a whole-hearted guarantee that everything is a.o.k. I enjoy me some morning deals, but I am always wary of everything all the time (guess the BS detector should have gone off on a set of 12 plates for 3 bucks?)
But for a group dedicated to smartening up the average consumer to post a link to a good deal and then go "Oh, gee, look at that, lots of luck" when it explodes...maybe look into this, provide us with some contacts? Point us in the right direction when everyone - EVERYONE - who took this deal is calling shenanigans? Maybe...check-up and confirm that these deals are deals and not..."shenaniganses?" I'm sorry if this is misdirected frustration over the ordeal, but I would rather not get so obviously screwed unless I was enjoying it or getting paid handsomely for it...and neither seems to be happening at the moment.
33 Plates and bowls, please.
@AlexDitto: $3 for 12 plates, give me a break. This was an obvious price mistake. This was hardly a ripoff/scam. These price mistakes get picked up on Slickdeals/Fatwallet all the time, and to be honest, they tend to handle the disappointment a lot better than this.
There are deals, and there are price mistakes. Some people make out like bandits, and others get the shaft. The only thing you guys should be looking for is a return + refund.
Aside from the low price, why is everyone fixating on the price and thinking that therein lies the mistake? The problem is that the transaction was for 12 plates. Instead of receiving the 12 plates that they ordered, purchasers receive only 1 plate. That is the discrepancy, and that is the problem that needs to be fixed. Refunding the money is not an acceptable remedy. The contact for sale was for 12 plates. If Amazon/Bealls made a mistake, the mistake was unilateral and they are still contractually bound to fulfill their contractual obligation or be in breach and subject to liability. Please also note that for those who will argue that the $2.50 price listed for a box of 12 plates was a misprint, the offer on Amazon's website is still the same, only the price has changed. If someone orders a box of 12 plates at the updated price, how many plates should they receive? The answer is 12; the same number of plates they should have received at the special discounted price.
Clearly. The Consumerist is saying Amazon made the mistake, but the customers are saying some company called Bealls made the mistake. Maybe Consumerist should fix that.
@Bs Baldwin: I agree, particularly because Amazon's Seller Participation Agreement reads, in part:
"For sales where a seller lists goods at a fixed price ("fixed price sales"), the Seller is obligated to sell the goods at the listed price to Buyers who meet the Seller's terms. By listing an item in a fixed price sale , you represent and warrant to prospective Buyers that you have the right and ability to sell, and that the listing is accurate, current, and complete and is not misleading or otherwise deceptive." [www.amazon.com]
However, it does look like they're relying instead on taking a few hits via the A-to-z guarantee rather than fulfilling their obligations.
Pricing errors happen, but there was nothing in last Monday's listing that screamed "$ ERRURR.00" Amazon and their merchants make a name for themselves by occasionally offering random things at random discounts - this "offer" seemed to fit the bill. No one can reasonably be expected to have "known better."
@Bs Baldwin: I'm having a rough time tracking down anything that says they have to, aside from a bunch of posts on random subjects by people who seem to believe it's the law. Hell, I'm one of those people. I was under the impression that if a retailer screws up pricing, they have to honor the lower price. Especially in this case, where a sale was made based on that price. However, I can't seem to find any legal documentation that says that they have to, so I'm sort of confused. If anyone can lead me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.
@Jerry McAdams:
It has nothing to do with how honest Amazon.com is. You just have to file for the refund through them because they processed the payment.
@sodomanaz: You are probably right that this was a price mistake. But sending 1 plate instead of 12, without warning/further contact/whatever, and avoiding the issue altogether...that sort of makes for a bigger problem, especially when it comes to future purchases a customer might want to make through the seller, no?
In this case, the only people that "made out like bandits" are the ones that decided to open a box of twelve items, give one out to everyone expecting the entire box, and then absolving themselves of any mistake or wrongdoing. How about a make-good other than "TS, get a refund from Amazon"
@I_am_Awesome: What if I don't want a refund? I have no recourse here when I am quoted a price, I pay the price, and they decide to change the terms without my even knowing about it? It's odd.
@Bs Baldwin: I agree. At the very least, it makes any future offerings from Amazon/sellers from Amazon as suspect, as far as I am concerned.
Yeah, I ordered the 2 different plates and the bowl, as well. I think I was the last to get them at 2.99 before bealls was out and amazon was the seller.
I got one of each, not one box of 12 each. I double checked the page too, 20 pounds, box of 12.
When I contacted Bealls about it, they said I have to get with Amazon to get my $ back.
I kind of knew it was too good to be true, especially considering the cost of shipping... but it was amazon so I went for it anyways.
Duh. Figures.















well... $3 for 12 dishes seems too cheap(its currently $30+ for 12 dishes)...
refund i guess... dont think the company would be sending 11 dishes to them