Want to know what the latest version of the stimulus package looks like? “We’ve trimmed the fat, fried the bacon, and milked the sacred cows,” Sen. Ben Nelson said in a statement. [Consumer Reports]

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  1. Plates says:

    It looks like this:

  2. smartmuffin says:

    So, instead of eliminating all the various side-projects that have *nothing* to do with economic stimulus, they just slightly reduced a small number of them?

    And this is what passes for “compromise” in our current political climate?

    • ZekeSulastin says:

      @smartmuffin: Compromise doesn’t really matter too much as long as you can avoid the filibuster, since the Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress …

  3. speedwell (propagandist and secular snarkist) says:

    Great, the fricking Atkins Theory of Economics.

  4. BlackMage is doing the Time Warp agaaaaaaain!!! says:

    I’ll tell you what it looks like.

    Broadband adoption in the US is stagnated for ANOTHER four years, leaving us apartment dwellers still severely fucked.

    • nighttrain2007 says:

      @BlackMage is doing the Time Warp agaaaaaaain!!!: Yeah, I just know it’s the responsibility of the government to provide you access to broadband. Or TV, or whatever your favorite thing is.

      You want to know what the latest stimulus package looks like? An expansion of debt, an extended depression because the government got involved in the first place, more lost jobs, and a future rating of 2nd place for this nation. But woo-hoo, they’re ‘doing something’ (which apparently passes for approval in this nation even if it’s the wrong course of action)

      • Eyebrows McGee (now with double the baby!) says:

        @nighttrain2007: Government “provision” of electricity and telephone to ALL of the US, not just the richy-rich parts, helped this country leap forward and become the economic powerhouse of the 21st century. Believe it or not, public goods CAN lead to private profit! Amazing, I know.

    • cunninglinguine says:

      @BlackMage is doing the Time Warp agaaaaaaain!!!: Watch your goddamn motherfucking mouth you rude piece of fucking shit.

  5. B says:

    Suddenly I have a craving for a BLT.

  6. B says:

    ..and a Milkshake.

  7. AlteredBeast (blaming the OP one article at a time.) says:

    Check out MY stimulus package ;)

  8. howie_in_az says:

    * “The largest cut is a $40 billion decrease in a $79 billion state fiscal stabilization fund, much of which would have gone to education.” (CongressDaily)
    * “…cuts all $16 billion from the original bill for K-12 school construction, trims more than $1 billion from Head Start programs for youngsters … Some $3.5 billion would be cut for work on higher education facilities as well.” (Detroit Fee Press)

    Yay, cut all funding to education in the hopes that eventually the people will be too stupid to realize what’s going on. You know, like in that documentary “Idiocracy”.

    • aedude01 says:

      @howie_in_az: THIS

      Why the hell do we keep cutting the funding for education? This is getting ridiculous!

      • Ash78 ain't got time to bleed says:

        @aedude01: Probably because education seems to be showing the least improvement for each additional dollar thrown at it. Almost as big a black hole as Iraq. It grows and grows and grows, but the results just aren’t there–even though the US spends almost as much per student as anywhere in the world.

        Disband the DoE and privatize the whole damn thing.

        • GuinevereRucker says:

          @Ash78: That would be cool! I’m reading a great book right now called “Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right from Wrong”. It pleads the case for character education, and I think this would help kids want to learn and take responsibility for their own actions.

          Throwing money at education means shiny new buildings, more raw materials, and teachers with more degrees – but some of the best teachers I’ve ever had possessed the least degrees/qualifications. And new shiny buildings doesn’t really mean better education.

          IOW, throwing money at education doesn’t help anything, it’s HOW and WHAT we teach that is important. I kinda like the privatization idea! Home schools, charter schools, private schools – these are all becoming more popular where I live.

          Sorry for the rant.

          • Ash78 ain't got time to bleed says:

            @GuinevereRucker: Right on.

            I think back to my public elementary education in the 80s, and all the teachers were at least 45 years old. They taught as much about character as they did “the three Rs.” This was amid serious state budget cuts, pretty ratty buildings, 15-y-o textbooks, etc. But the content was there.

            Seems like today the emphasis is on young teachers (hooray, no tenure!) and more rote lesson plans. I see more and more people fleeing for private schools, church schools, and homeschooling–20 years ago, those seemed a lot more stigmatized than now (“rich kid” or “religious nut” etc)

            • failurate says:

              @Ash78: The teachers now spend all their time training the kids on how to take the standardized tests that determines whether or not the teacher/school gets funding.
              Schools are forced to game the system.

            • GuinevereRucker says:

              @Ash78: My education was in the 80′s too, and come to think of it, that was true.

              I substitute teach now in a very wealthy town, and I’m constantly surprised at what I see in the high school and junior high. Most of it depresses me.

              I don’t have kids, but if I did I would look *first* to private, church, or home school.

        • mac-phisto says:

          @Ash78: when exactly did we ever “throw money at education”? i agree that throwing money at something never really helped it, but i don’t think public education has ever suffered from that problem.

          one of the best books i have ever read on american education.

    • katieoh says:

      @howie_in_az: wouldn’t it be a wonderful world where education got all the money it needed and the air force had to hold a bake sale to buy a new jet?

      the fact that education is getting pushed aside for wars we’ll never win makes me want to vomit.

    • warf0x0r says:

      @howie_in_az: I hope Obama fights back on this a bit. For a man who said his favorite show is The Wire there is no way you can skip this opportunity to fund public education, because if it doesn’t happen here where else will it happen?

      That’s a challenge more than a question. I hope politicians will drop this crap of “Better pay for teachers” while cutting funding every year.

      • howie_in_az says:

        @warf0x0r: I’m of the opinion that once advertising is permitted in classrooms teachers will get the pay they deserve — one step towards the future predicted in “Idiocracy”, with today’s history lesson brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

        • smartmuffin says:

          @howie_in_az: I am *amazed* that anyone who watched idiocracy took away the message that “we need to spend more money on schools.” The problems in the “future” world of idiocracy were cultural. They were that education was not valued. You can fill your schools with all the high tech gadgets in the world. You can hire PHDs to teach kindergarten. None of that will change the “culture of ignorance” that we continually promote in all aspects of society.

          Oh, and actually, I don’t want the Air Force to have to have a bake sale to buy a jet, because when the Air Force doesn’t have money, people *die* and I’d rather be dumb than be dead.

    • chauncy that billups says:

      @howie_in_az: This is a stimulus bill, not an omnibus appropriations bill. That comes later. Money for education should go into that.

  9. laserjobs says:

    PORKY PIG Says “That’s all folks”

  10. rpm773 says:

    “We’ve trimmed the fat, fried the bacon, and milked the sacred cows,”

    Now the food industry’s getting bailed out?

  11. chuloallen says:

    “We’ve trimmed the fat, fried the bacon, and milked the sacred cows,” and sacrificed our children so that we can keep the Pork chops.

    Who’s’ “side” projects did NOT get cut? the real useless ones that are for sure pork

    does anyone really believe Obama when he says this package does not have pork in it?

    it aint Kosher

    • Xay says:

      @chuloallen: The side projects that would have created jobs and invested money in strengthening the American people got cut. The ones that rely on doing what we have been doing for the last 8 years, investing in dying industries, and helping save the jobs of wealthy people who couldn’t care less about the overall well being of this country were saved.

      /bitter public health worker

      • nighttrain2007 says:

        @xay: “the side projects that would have created jobs and invested money in strengthening the American people got cut”

        LOL, thanks for the laugh. Show of hands who believes it’s the government’s role to ‘create’ anything (unfortunately far too many people raise their hands on that one)

  12. MrsLopsided says:

    To me cuts to school construction make sense. New schools are locally funded and planned years in advance. We’d get no immediate bang for the buck and would just substitute local funding with federal stimulus funds – with new stimulus generated construction.

    I’d prefer 1) a transfer of funds to each state gov’t to manage and distribute – make local gov’t responsible – you’ll get better & more immediate projects… and/or

    2) immediate spending credits on major purchases (like the DTV program) but not “tax credits” that consumers won’t see until tax time next year at which time they will be clawed back and blurred.

    • MrsLopsided says:

      @MrsLopsided:
      with NO new stimulus generated construction.

    • Eyebrows McGee (now with double the baby!) says:

      @MrsLopsided: “New schools are locally funded and planned years in advance.”

      And in poor districts, like mine, sit there unbuilt for years, hoping and hoping a state budget surplus gives us enough funds to build at some point. Ever.

      We’d be DELIGHTED to take a couple million off the federal government’s hands to employ a bunch of construction workers and skilled tradesmen to build our badly-needed, long-planned schools, and to upgrade some of our others to bring them up to code for, say, 1972.

    • mac-phisto says:

      @MrsLopsided: i definitely do not prefer sending the money directly to the states. at least not to my state. please don’t send my state any more money. i’m begging here. seriously.

      /connecticut resident trying to figure out exactly how his state gov’t manages to go from a $2 billion SURPLUS to a $1 billion DEFICIT in a year’s time.

  13. thebluepill says:

    How does the $15K housing credit work?

    • B says:

      @thebluepill: If you buy a house and qualify for the credit (at one point it was for first time buyers only, but I think it now includes anybody), you get a $15k credit towards your 2009 taxes. That subtracts 15K off the amount you owe, not a tax deduction, which would subtract 15k from your taxable earnings.

  14. speedwell (propagandist and secular snarkist) says:

    It offsets the immediate $15K rise in home prices.

  15. cmdrsass says:

    I’ll let you all in on a little secret, the whole “stimulus” package is pork. Shhhh!

  16. JimK says:

    Bottom line is we (the U.S.) are more screwed than anyone is even ready to talk about. For this and all of time going forward. I read Plato. I know how the Republic ends, and we are frogmarching our way right down the path to oblivion.

    One of my friends is predicting an actual revolution by 2025. I don’t know that I think he’s crazy anymore.

  17. BobCoyote says:

    ::snort::

  18. t-r0y says:

    What a bunch of self-righteous, self-serving fools we’ve sent to Washington.

    Maybe we need a law that says if you give any hint of wanting to be a Senator, Representative or other Federal Elected official, you’re immediately disqualified.

  19. ElizabethD says:

    Block that metaphor.