WaMu Fails, Feds Seize It, JP Morgan Buys It, Your Accounts Are Ok
The Feds seized Washington Mutual and JP Morgan bought it, but don't fret, all your accounts ok. Online banking is completely functional. If you held WaMu stock, on the other hand, it's now effectively worthless. Depositors began fleeing WaMu on September 15, the day Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy. In all, they took out about 9% of WaMu's deposits, or $16.7 billion. Regulators say this left WaMu without enough capital to keep functioning. The shakedown and bailout continues apace. What new surprises will the government bring us today, Monday, or even over the weekend? At least this one didn't require taxpayers to foot the bill.
JPMorgan buys WaMu [CNN] (Photo: So Cal Metro)
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WOO-HOO! [We just seized!]
Good riddance to bad rubbish. I'm surprised Ben was able to dodge their lying, stupidity, and underhanded business practices all this time. Not that Chase is any better, but I've personally never had a problem with them; of course, I only have two credit cards with them ~ no bank accounts.
Damn, I hadn't seen a post on this yet, so I just sent in a pic of the website, Ben. Check the tips mailbox.
AngrySicilian: I heard a lot of crap on here about them, but to me, they've been nothing but golden.
This. Never had anything but great service from WAMU, despite all the horror stories I've heard.
@blackmage439: Oh, the post just updated, and I noticed this interesting tidbit:
"In all, they took out about 9% of WaMu's deposits, or $16.7 billion. Regulators say this left WaMu without enough capital to keep functioning."
So, I am interpreting this correctly in that WaMu would have been fine if panicky bastards hadn't performed a good ol' bank run? Sounds like about %50 of what's wrong with the US's economy right now.
Actually I think the more accurate statement is that WAMU would have been fine if they had not been greedy bastards and gave out subprime and Alt-A loans to individuals who clearly should not of had those loans.
But sure ignore the underlying disease.
@y2julio:
Such is economics, everything is done off of what people EXPECT are going to happen whether it has any merits or not. Thus it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and then I think about moving the money in my wamu account to somewhere else.
I think most people here are just ignoring one major fact: [calculatedrisk.blogspot.com]
"WaMu has $53 billion in option adjustable-rate mortgages ... Of the $53 billion in option ARMs, $14 billion of these are to the riskiest segment in mortgage lending, subprime borrowers.
WaMu also has $62 billion in home-equity loans ...
Mr. Bove predicts that WaMu will lose $40 billion over the next three years on its loan portfolio. If the economy weakens further and losses are even higher, he said, "the future of the company is questionable."
So sure lets just ignore the fact they were greedy bastards.
@y2julio: The Regulation Fair Disclosure Act of 2000 frowns on such practices. Still, blame the liberal media.
@y2julio: Wa-Mu was going to fail no matter what, but the bank run just put them out of our misery earlier. They were a badly run bank, and were doomed no matter what the media did.
You misinterpret my statement. The other half of what's wrong is greedy bastards, as you said. Yes, I believe these CEOs, bankers, and whoever else was responsible for the illegal and amoral activities all need a swift few kicks in the nuts. However, it is wrong to allow these institutions to fail at the expense of their customers' (read: NOT their shareholders) well being.
I'm just saying a bank run and subsequent failure doesn't do anybody any good. That's all. It's not like Chase and Bank of America are holy saviors in this crisis. Their both two of the greediest and shadiest banks in the country. The only difference is that neither of them were stupid enough to get heavily involved in these dishonest loans. That's why they both have the capital to gobble up all of these other institutions. When the dust settles, there will be trouble without proper regulation. Chase and BoA will most certainly hold a monopoly on banking institutions in this country, if they don't already...
@jwinston2: Exactly what I was thinking. Why was WaMu counting on the last 9% of it's revenue to fund basic operating costs? Sounds waaaaay too risky for this cowboy.
I use my WaMu free checking account almost exclusively for PayPal/eBay, since it does not require any minimum deposits or any direct deposit to remain free.
Chase requires direct deposit to remain free, otherwise there seems to be a $12 month charge.
Does this mean that I will start being charged a fee?
Will I be notified in advance so I can close the account?
I use a credit union for all other banking, so I have no intention of direct depositing into chase.
@YourTechSupport: Same here. There's a WaMu next to UTD... next to where I lived in Houston... next to my old workplace AND my new workplace... it was so amazingly convenient to use CASH! :D
If they close down, I might go Mr. Stabby!
I've been with Chase since it ate my old bank in the mid 80s and have not had a single problem with them except they don't have a change counter at my location. That's my biggest gripe, they have friendly staff, they actually answer the phone, they know my name when I walk in, they call me before shutting off my card for unusual spending patterns (Bank of America didn't call us, just shut down our card, Thanks guys!)
@jwinston2: Everyone is quick to blame the bankers. It was the rating agencies that rated these mortgage backed securities as less risky than they truly were.
Exactly. Anyone following the financial news that was concerned about their deposits would have moved months ago.
Yes, customer withdrawals contributed to WaMu's demise. If people didn't panic, the government wouldn't have stepped in and seized control. Well, maybe they would have eventually, but not so soon. My guess is that this news will cause a knee jerk reaction and other people will start pulling their money out and stashing it under their mattresses.
It's really unfortunate though. My experience with WaMu has been great. Much better than my previous bank, Bank Of America.
@LatherRinseRepeat: There have already been stories of elderly customers going into banks and trying to withdraw everything.
@mbd: No, they will grandfather you account including any terms already made, ex: no minimum balance required. I could be wrong, so if I am, feel free to correct me.
@cjc: I live in the capitol city of Montana and we don't have either. The *only* national bank we have (heck, probably the only one with more than two branches anywhere) is US Bank. While they have some of the nicest tellers they are overall completely and utterly incompetent. So far they have merged my business and personal account information, then they merged the STATEMENTS (hurray for screwing up my taxes), and for added fun they can't do *anything* over the phone for business accounts. *sigh*
@newdeepdan: Whatever you have sticks. Example: When they changed the drinking age from 18 to 21 people who were 19 were "gradfathered in" and could continue to leagally drink.



















Sorry Ben.