Disney Decides To Stop Selling "Dive In" Panties For Young Girls
Gee, someone wasn't thinking too clearly when they were designing High School Musical 2 themed panties for Disney. Sold in the UK, one pair of panties in a package of 5 read "Dive In" -- a reference to a scene from the popular musical.
From the Daily Mail:
Mrs Ralph, 57, a civil servant, said: 'I bought the packet of five multi-coloured knickers. Because they are in a packet, you can't see the writing "Dive In" on them.
'I was extremely shocked when I saw what was on them and I don't believe Disney or anyone else is so stupid not to realise the implications of the wording they chose.
'You let your children watch all these programmes, which are innocent and nice.
'But the merchandising that runs alongside them is the complete opposite. It's sexually suggestive, inappropriate and wholeheartedly wrong in some cases.
Disney has issued the following statement:
"Unfortunately, an oversight was made and the text on the underwear was used out context,” Disney said in a statement. “This product will not be part of any forthcoming collections and the remaining product has been removed from shelves.”
That's probably for the best.
Outrage at High School Musical knickers for young girls emblazoned with the words 'Dive In' [Daily Mail]
Disney says no to ‘Musical’ panties [Reuters via Fark]
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I don't get it. If they're for young (presumably 9 and under) girls, who is looking at their panties??? Does this crazy person think that's the kind of thing that would drive a pedo over the edge?
I don't see a 7 year old, under the kind of hypersensitive "parenting" this woman is using, understanding that there might be any sexual implications from the phrase. If she does know, shouldn't the mother have a dialog with her daughter rather than a media-grab?
I'm thinking the mother saw this and saw lawsuit dollar signs, not sexual impropriety.
@brother9: I don't think the idea is that someone who has the girl's pants off and thinking "should I, or maybe not?" is literally going to see it and think "Dive in!" The woman is probably more outraged by the general inappropriateness of the sentiment.
People are offended over the craziest things. A white politician apologized to a black civil servant for calling some local government office a "black hole." In no way was that racist, it meant that problems, complaints, issues, etc. go in, and in the bureaucratic mess they get sucked in and never come out or get resolved. In no way was it racially motivated. The African Americans who think they have the monopoly on when it's okay to say "black" even outside a racial context piss me off. Sometimes it can be considered a double entendre, but there is such a thing as reading too much into something.
Several years ago in OKC I was sitting in the supermarket parking lot waiting on my wife, and some mom and her 8-year old girl show up to load their SUV. Embroidered & sequined on the ass of the 10-year old girl (short shorts) was *HOTTIE* (asterisks = actually stars). If a lot of moms are really oblivious to their prepubescent daughters turning into Rollergirl then who can be surprised at this Disney faux.
This is like the Walmart panties that said:
[front]"Who needs credit cards?"
[back]"When you've got santa?"
and people went back and forth as to the appropriateness of this message after Walmart pulled them from stores. I don't understand putting messages on any panties. I don't get why a young girls' crotch requires reading material to begin with.
This is like those sweatpants that teenagers wear that say "Juicy" across the butt. What exactly are we supposed to make of that?
@malvones: I use the threads as a forum to rally everyone up and argue against the voices in my head.
I plead guilty to derailing multiple threads.
@TomCruisesTesticles: Oh NOES! You have admitted to thread hi-jacking, which runs 'a foul of the new commenting T&C and will be dealt with harshly! RUN!!!!!
@TomCruisesTesticles: BTW, where my husband is from, they can't call them "black boards" and "white erase boards" because it's racist, apparently.
*shrugs*
@joellevand: They actually dont call them "white erase boards" they call them "eraser boards" as white is a racist term.
@AirIntake: Dirve in... I like it. Well, it's funny at least. Is there a reason though that girls panties need cute messages? Do they occupy themselves at slumber parties by playing "Guess what my panties say"? Textless is fine, people!
On an aside, these products seem meant for younger girls, which begs the question, who's going to see that would care? The girl? Her mom?
I'm sort of perturbed by how many people think this is totally not an issue, based largely on "no one will see a little kid's underpants". I mean...what if the underwear had a definitely explicit sexual message on them? What if they were Alice In Wonderland-themed and said "Eat me"? It's not the thought that people might possibly see them on a child, it's the thought in the first place of putting anything innuendo-ish on clothing - whether it be outerwear or underwear - for a child. I don't think the folks at Disney made these with the aim of being perverted, but the fact that it didn't occur to anyone there that it maybe wasn't right is what creeps me out.
@spryte: I think the "innuendo" is in the eye of the beholder. You can find a sexual subtext in anything if you look at it long and hard enough. ;)
@MercuryPDX: Believe you me, I'm definitely no prude, but somehow, I don't think it takes a whole lot of long, hard looking to see the hidden message implied when one writes "Dive in!" on the crotch of a girl's panties.
@spryte: Where you see a sexual comment, my daughter sees the same text that she has on her t-shirt. Panties are clothing to her, and not the last line of sexual defense, nor an invitation to sex.
Personally, I think people like Mrs Ralph are so wrapped up in themselves that they forget other people look at things differently, even their children or grandchildren.
If you don't think that a 7-9 year old would know what that was insinuating, you are fooling yourself. They hear worse at school and on the internet.
I had a thong that said "Paradise Found". But then again, I am an adult woman.
I am no prude but I find these Disney panties to be tacky. If you are really wanting them, though, give it a week and they will be on EBay.
@spryte: Very well said. It is a little disturbing to think that some think that this is ok.
On a complete sidenote, don't let your kids wear clothing with words on them! I can't stand watching young women strut around with Pink on their asses. That is loungewear...not outside wear. Let's start teaching girls style and class.
@joellevand: My grandmother loves to tell the story of a coworker who tore a strip of her for referring to an office object as a "blackboard" because it was apparently racist.
My grandmother loves telling the story so she can let everyone know how off her rocker that woman was.
This is like candy cigarettes. It reinforces an image. In retrospect, I find candy cigarettes appalling because smoking is gross (and they weren't even that good).
So I think the point behind the complaint is that mass-market sexualization keeps targeting a younger and younger crowd. Today, she's wearing "Dive in!" knickers, tomorrow she's a sorostitute. They've tapped the college crowd. Teens are in on it too. In the interest of broadening the market, now they're going after the children with oblivious parents. Corrupt them while they're young and impressionable. It makes your work easier later.
And that if Mrs Ralph had known she was buying her daughter something that said "Dive in!" should wouldn't have done it. That's fair enough.
@spryte: Oooh Alice in Wonderland! How about Down the rabbit hole on the back of the panties? Or No Rabbits?
@godlyfrog: Thanks. That's exactly what I meant. A 9 year old sees "Zac Effron and Vanessa Hudgens dancing".... a 39-year old sees "sexual invitation".
@thelushie: Then I take it "Dive In" in the HSM movies refers to "pre-teen sexual promiscuity" and not something as innocent as "School Spirit" or "swimming lessons"?
@krom: That's not how it works. Generally, the designs are done in the US, they must then be approved by the licensor before they can be manuafcatured. A sample then is made for the retailer to approve. Once those approvals are done, it goes to the off-shore manufacturing.
As the Disney statement says, the graphic has been taken out-of-context.
@MercuryPDX: Are the actresses running around with "Dive in" on their panties? Are the actresses 9 years old? On a pair of panties meant for a kid, that statement is not appropriate. On a t-shirt with a surfer design, completely different story. And if you think that 7-9 year olds in this day and age do not know the difference, you are fooling yourself.
It is nice and pleasant to think of childhood as innocence and goodness, but that is not the case anymore. Kids are alot more advanced than we ever were as children. And that is the adults fault. Because of this "advancement", we should protect children. Children are sexualized enough, especially little girls, without having to have "dive in" on their panties. Because, in the off chance that they don't know what it is insinuating, one of their friends will and will fill them in. Let the vicious teasing ("you like boys" or whatnot) begin.
Why do you think that a 39 year old seeing Vanessa Hudgens and Zac Effron dancing is a sexual invitation? Are they in their underwear dancing? Are they naked? Dancing has nothing to do with sex. My god, I am in my thirties and that would have never crossed my mind.
These are little girl panties? Then who in Hades are going to see the writing on the panties? Mommy, maybe Daddy and Uncle Perv if he is lucky (or little girl is unlucky). Pretty much means that Uncle Perv, if he is viewing the writing on the panties, is all ready where he don't belong and a wee little bit of writing is going to neither encourage nor discourage his further explorations. For all practical purposes the panties could say "x%&# me" and it would be totally meaningless because nobody with a sexual though in their mind is going to see the message.
@thelushie: Are the actresses running around with "Dive in" on their panties? Are the actresses 9 years old?
I haven't seen the movie so I couldn't tell you, but I think it's a safe assumption the actresses are older than 9 and "Dive In" is a song/dance number from the movie.
Why do you think that a 39 year old seeing Vanessa Hudgens and Zac Effron dancing is a sexual invitation? Are they in their underwear dancing? Are they naked? Dancing has nothing to do with sex.
I dunno where you got this from, perhaps you misread my comment?














Oh, 'Dive In'. I thought it said 'Drive In', which I found to be way funnier.