Car Dealership Disguises Junk Mail As Traffic Ticket

Reader Sandra thinks Feeny Dodge in Elgin, IL should rethink this advertisement, which is disguised as a traffic ticket.

Sandra says:

I received the following advertisement in the mail today. It comes from a Feeny Dodge dealership in Elgin, Illinois. However, it came in an envelope marked “Traffic Division – Department of Ticket Disbursements” from Carol Stream, IL. I thought it was a traffic ticket so I opened the letter. I was surprised to learn that it was actually an advertisement for a local car dealership! Seriously, how low will a company go to get you to read their junk mail?

This is just sad. We were curious about the official-sounding stuff about consulting the F010 section of the DMM so we looked it up. It’s the section of the official domestic mail manual that deals with Nondelivery of Mail. Tee hee. How authentic.

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  1. ViperBorg says:

    That’s a new low.

    I’m now ashamed of owning a Dodge.

  2. lingum says:

    Bastardos!

  3. IphtashuFitz says:

    I’d walk into the middle of the showroom floor when there’s a big crowd there (like on a Saturday afternoon), hold up the “ticket” and say in a very loud voice something like, “Hi, I’m here to return this bogus ticket that you people sent me! I’m not sure why you people are sending out letters from the traffic division claiming that a ticket is enclosed but I’m sure it was sent to me in error so I’m returning it to you.” Then drop it on the floor and walk out.

  4. madfrog says:

    Gee, I guess it is hard all over. Needless to say, I dont work for dealerships anymore, saw too much backstabbing and fleecing of customers

  5. Amy Alkon000 says:

    Yes, hire stupid people. They need jobs more.

  6. timmus says:

    Well, obviously their strategy worked, so it was an advertising success. Since the USPS is bending over, lube in hand, to accept as much bulk mail from advertisers as it can take, I’m sure fake government mail will get worse before it gets better. The real question is whether it was a marketing success. It’s clearly created some ill will and resentment in this instance.

  7. EdnaLegume says:

    um… I looked first then read.. and I thought the story was about the OPPOSITE… an actual ticket was in that VERY junk mail looking envelope.

    Maybe I get a LOT of junk mail, but around here, Carol Stream, IL is the junk mail mecca of the world.

    I get junk mail all the time that looks official. that’s kind of their big marketing idea they all pat themselves on the back about.

    it’s not very honorable and makes me think twice before visiting an establishment that does it, but duh… it’s what brings in the suckers.

  8. Squeezer99 says:

    how come honda/toyota don’t have to use gimmick advertising to sell their cars? oh thats right, they make quality cars that sell themselves and people want to buy, unlike what chrysler produces.

  9. TheSpatulaOfLove says:

    Want revenge?

    Go ask for a test drive. Pick up the nicest car you can find on the lot, preferably one of those fancy-yet-thirsty Aspens. Go do a Home Depot run on your test drive and stock up on some of that clearance mulch they have in the garden center. Make sure you do a lot of jackrabbit starts and hard stops on the way home. When you bring the vehicle back, make sure it’s running on fumes and THEN show them the ticket.

    “You wasted my time, I’m now done wasting yours.”

  10. Carso says:

    I am curious as to whether or not this might actually be illegal. Is there any legal provision about impersonating a government agency? What about providing a false return address?

  11. slickhop says:

    um no one else thinks that this is kind of a genius strategy? this is good design, people. and there’s no actual harm to the consumer upon opening the envelope … obvs you could argue loss of time, etc,. but in the case of how cute this is, (“aww, its a ticket fabulous prizes! look at all the cute fake money!”) i think we should give this one a pass.

  12. harvey_birdman_attorney_at_law says:

    It’s a scam and the people behind it should be murdered.

  13. JeepDude says:

    As an employee for a car dealership (IT, not sales), I see mailers like that go out often. Sometimes they look like an IRS form or 1099 form around tax time, sometimes it looks like a refund check of sorts. The idea is to get the recipient to open it up and read it, which they are very effective at. There are many clues that indicate it is a mailer. Most of the time the return address is out of state and correspondance from your actual DMV or Division of Revenue looks different. If the market for (domestic) cars and trucks weren’t in such a slump right now, dealerships wouldn’t normally have to stoop this low, but good dealers make the best of a bad market and continue to sell cars, and that is what this one is doing. Like it or not.

  14. BlondeGrlz says:

    @Carso: I think since they avoided the words “Department of Motor Vehicles” and never actually said it was an official government anything it falls under scammy and low-down but legal. I’m sure that’s a real return address too, although “Traffic Division – Department of Ticket Disbursements” is probably a guy named Bubba who checks a P.O. Box once a month.

  15. iverevi says:

    Here is my take on these types of things: I would not consider them a trustworthy business if they are willing to deceive you to get you as a consumer.

  16. redfork says:

    @slickhop: My thinking exactly.

  17. gergs says:

    The first clue it’s junk mail is that the return address says “Carol Steam”, not “Carol Stream”. Immediately in the trash.

  18. backbroken says:

    Step 1. Piss off potential customers
    Step 2. ????
    Step 3. Profit?

    I think this is a brilliant strategy.

  19. viewsource says:

    Wow, now that’s an all time low. I’ve heard of the domain name registrars pulling something like this, or an “SEO” company that will send out what looks like an invoice, but this is a new low.

    Only 1 rating, but it’s not a good one either:
    [www.dealerrater.com]

  20. ooolam says:

    I’ve got quite a few similar junk mails from a local Toyota dealer in North Jersey faking as IRS.

    I actually have no problem with this kind of junk mails. It just tells me NOT to do business with them.

  21. bohemian says:

    @slickhop: No it is not genius strategy. It is actually very lame strategy. It relies on deception to get people to open it. It also associates a negative experience with the company advertising. You thought you got a ticket = negative. You were duped by deception into opening an envelop = negative.

    BUT! If your strategy is to find as many low intelligence suckers to sell them some really bad high interest car loans, this will certainly weed out the smart people and bring you only some true suckers.

  22. strathmeyer says:

    I think the real question is, who’s gonna clean up the Google AdSense ads?

  23. Underpants Gnome says:

    @backbroken: Hey! What’s phase 2?

  24. neilb says:

    These are fantastically-misleading dealership advertisements too:
    [www.tpgauto.com]

  25. IphtashuFitz says:

    @slickhop: It’s highly deceptive. It’s known that lots of car dealers are sleazy & deceptive. These guys basically advertised to their potential customer base “Hi, we’ll stoop to sleazy underhanded tactics to get you to read our advertising brochures. Now won’t you come into our dealership and buy a car from us? We promise we won’t try any sleazy underhanded tactics once you’re here to jack up the price of the car you buy from us, and we won’t try to force all sorts of unnecessary extras like undercoating on you either!”

  26. Kurt's Krap says:

    Pre-sorted? Dead tip off it’s junk.

  27. hellinmyeyes says:

    That’s ridiculous. That’s definitely the worst I’ve seen so far. I get similar-looking (but not nearly as “authentically” worded) ads for extended warranty protection on a new car I bought last year. They’ll do anything to make it sound like it came from the dealer or from the corporate office itself without actually coming out and saying it. Scammers, ugh.

  28. hellinmyeyes says:

    Pre-sorted doesn’t mean junk. It means that the company/dealer/government office has taken the effort to pre-sort the mail to get a lower mailing rate. I guess since “taken the effort” was involved, it definitely wasn’t a government office… Never mind, I see what you’re saying. ;-)

  29. psyop63b says:

    Sallie Mae tried pushing student consolidation loans on me using junk mail designed to resemble a collection notice. I sent scans of it to The Consumerist but they never posted the story.

  30. dragonvpm says:

    @timmus: Would that really qualify as an advertising success if it managed to cause active ill will (and then gets slapped up on the Consumerist, thus generating more ill will and zero delivery of message)?

    From a marketing perspective advertising isn’t just about drawing attention to your product/brand/etc… you also want to influence people in a pre-determined way (generally postive unless it’s an election year ;). This ad actively makes someone worry about a ticket they don’t remember getting and then springs it’s message on them once they open the envelope (thereby instantly positioning itself in the “Is this a scam?” category like those fake yellow pages bills or those fake social security letters etc…).

    If I got something like that I’d be inclined to lump that car dealership into the “possibly shady company” group and even after I forgot all about that specific ad, I might still have an automatic “I don’t trust them” reaction next time I saw an ad. I know a few companies that I do that to now, if I stop and think about it for a bit I can remember why I have negative feelings about them, but in general, it’s enough that I see their ads or anything to do with them and I automatically dismiss them because they’re “bad” in some way.

  31. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    @iverevi: My thoughts exactly.

    @slickhop: How is it genius to piss of potential customers? I don’t know about you but my first reaction to seeing a traffic ticket in the mail would not be a pleasant one. So you’re irritated before you even open the thing because you’re wondering what they thought you did and how you’re going to pay for the ticket and it turns out to be an ad. Now you’re mad at the dealership for jerking you around for no good reason.

  32. picardia says:

    @slickhop: I would be so pissed off at the sight of this thing that I would definitely NEVER go to that car dealership, ever. And I’d remember it for years. So I would call that seriously beneath “genius” levels of strategy.

  33. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    @psyop63b: Now that would REALLY make me angry.

    BTW, you can also put stories up in the forums: [consumerist.proboards88.com]

  34. BeastMD says:

    I make it a point to never do business with a company that sends me mail advertisements like that.

  35. slickhop says:

    @bohemian: @Rectilinear Propagation: For me, I imagine the feelings I get would cycle from irritation, bewilderment, amusement, boredom. All within 15 seconds or so. I wouldn’t go to the dealership either way, so its irrelevant to me. But from a design perspective, I like it. FWIW.

  36. Death says:

    A particularly loathsome dealership in Boston sends out very serious looking manufacturer’s recall notices, instructing that it is urgent you bring your vehicle to their shop, the small print explaining it’s to see if anything has been recalled.

    I sent mine to the local news consumer watchdog, and while I don’t believe anything ever aired, they must have contacted the dealership who seems to have stopped sending them, which they previously did on a fairly regular basis.

  37. CountryJustice says:

    Steve Winwood has issued a statement that Traffic does not issue tickets, much less does it have its own division. He would also like to request that those upset by said announcement simply “roll with it, baby.”

  38. RedSonSuperDave says:

    TheSpatulaofLove is right on. Quite frankly, I don’t have the balls to use Harvey Birdman’s idea, but have no problem using TheSpatula’s method, possibly with a dash of IphtashuFitz’s.

    I don’t know what the Hell this is, but it isn’t free speech.

  39. Bryan Price says:

    Anything from Carol Stream, IL, and I just toss it. I’ve seen that address on way too much junk mail. There’s only one real IL address that I would really think about opening (That’s where my step family lives).

  40. rpm773 says:

    I think the government should bail out the US auto manufacturers so that they can pull more stunts like this on the customer…er.. tax payer.

  41. SuffolkHouse says:

    Call Feeny Dodge and let them know that they suck balls:

    (847) 697-0900

    Geri

  42. admiral_stabbin says:

    @JeepDude: I disagree that they “have to stoop this low”. I don’t care what a business is selling…cars, chocolates, baby formula, it doesn’t matter. If they start the conversation with a potential customer by grossly misleading them in an attempt to get their attention…it’s likely not going to lead to a sale.

    @BeastMD: I agree and practice that 100%. If anyone starts off a conversation with me by treating me like a fool, then, at the very least we won’t be doing business.

  43. Trai_Dep says:

    What’s even better is here in California, the photobot traffic tickets here don’t use an identifiable return address, a CA state seal, or any identifier suggesting the ticket isn’t junk mail.
    Only after the time has expired to contest the ticket does a new envelope, printed with a properly identifiable return address w/ CA state seal get sent to your house saying you now owe $350 for your moving violation.
    It’s cunningly designed to look just like junk mail, to be tossed.

    Truly evil. I had one sent to me in this fashion, only luckily it was in error and the driver of my car was clearly not me (different race, even), so I was able to get out of it by “only” wasting a day in court.

    Yay, public/private partnerships!!

  44. Since they’re claiming to be from the “Traffic Division”, aren’t they posing as government officials? I’m not sure if that’s illegal, but it’s obviously unethical.

    The state Attorney General needs to know about this, even if no action can be taken against the company.

    Consumerists, let’s all write letters letting the employees of Feeny Dodge know their houses are being foreclosed upon, and their uncles and aunts are all dying of cancer!

  45. NotATool says:

    @Rectilinear Propagation: I think they’re just trying to find some simple minded folk to come buy a Dodge and finance the hell out of it….

    Prospective customer: “OMG…I just got another ticket notice in the mail!!! Crap, crap. crap!!!”

    *opens letter*

    Prospective customer: “Oh, thank God it’s not a ticket!! I am so relieved and happy now! Say, that’s a nice looking car on the insert! I should go buy it!”

    Then when Prospect shows up at dealership, ad insert in hand, they can easily and immediately be identified as a simple minded sap who is ready to be screwed on a sale.

    Or something like that…

  46. fuzzymuffins says:

    @TheSpatulaOfLove:

    indeed. badvertising is always a great excuse for some equally bad taste reaction. next time i get a shitty add from a dealer, i’m off for a time wasting “sorry not interested” string along.

    any junk mail that comes with a return postage envelope gets returned filled with every piece of paper they sent, plus additional gifts of trash to weigh it down.

  47. NotATool says:

    @InfiniTrent: The “traffic division” of WHAT? See, that’s the genius here; they are impersonating no government agency. Just trying to get you to *think* they are. A real ticket-in-the-mail would say something like “Village of Carol Stream, Traffic Division.”

  48. Parapraxis says:

    @strathmeyer:

    psst…. http://www.customizegoogle.com

    put the setting to: “block adsense ads”

  49. mariospants says:

    Heh heh heh, WHY do car companies allow their dealerships to send out their own independantly-developed ads? This is a great case in point why the practice should be stamped out. If a multimillion dollar budget developed by experienced, university-educated marketing professionals (and you can read some sarcasm into that) can’t get people in the showroom (without pissing off their customers in the process), what makes some hicks drinking beer in the backroom think they have a better idea? Better yet, send the concept to HQ first and ask for some feedback, first.

    These kinds of ads may be effective if you’re trying to sell penis enlargers, but if your objective is to gain recognition and build a client base for a car dealership… it has the opposite effect.

  50. @NotATool: Oh, it’s tricky alright. But I’m not allowed to put a blue light bar on my car, even if I don’t say I’m a cop.

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  52. Zimorodok says:

    Google the return address. It returns as “MAN Marketing” – “The Alternative to Traditional Advertising Agencies.”

    If by “traditional” you mean “not deceptive.”

  53. GrandizerGo says:

    @slickhop: No it’s not a genius strategy, it’s a bait and switch tactic and that’s all.
    I personally guarantee I would never frequent or do business with a company that does such.

  54. el-brazo-onofre says:

    JetBlue sent me an ad that looked like a paycheck. Damn, that was annoying. Hey, moneyyyyy ohhhh noooo a frickin’ ad!

  55. alejo699 says:

    Well, it got you to open the envelope … but has anybody, ever, opened such a thing and said, “Oh, it’s not a ticket, it’s an ad — and I think I’ll buy a car!”

  56. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    For me, I imagine the feelings I get would cycle from irritation, bewilderment, amusement, boredom.
    @slickhop: Fair enough.

  57. Cattivella says:

    Ugh, we get stuff like this all the time for LLCs and corporations we’ve set up. There is a company that sends out official looking notices and mandatory filings – things you DO actually have to file, but can do easily with the secretary of state for about $20. This company makes you think their mailing is the official one by putting a bunch of business code citings on it and then charges you $100. It’s insanely deceptive and I could see many small business people falling for it.

  58. Nick1693 says:

    @gergs: I just Google Mapped the address and saw the same thing. The address from satellite looks like a giant warehouse.

    [maps.google.com]

  59. Nick1693 says:

    @Nick1693: Link doesnt work… Heres the good one [maps.google.com]

  60. Kevinber says:

    It’s done by a company called MAN Marketing.

    Their contact page:
    [www.manmarketing.com]

  61. @Trai_Dep: I’ve always wondered about this. My wife got one of these red-light tickets in the mail 2 years ago. The car in the picture was registered to my FIL. The driver was my SIL. My wife called the police department and told them that it wasn’t her in the pic. They said that they had to assume it was her based on the records they had (they knew it wasn’t FIL, so assumed it was the oldest of the 3 daughters). The ticket would go on her record unless we identified who was driving. Isn’t it their responsibility to identify who it is? Could we have just taken it to court and show the judge that it wasn’t her in the picture? Are we really compelled to rat out her sister? (BTW, she sang like a stool pigeon, the hell we were gonna take the fall for her sister!)

  62. FromThisSoil says:

    Gee, I hope you paid the $20,000 ticket!

  63. vespa59 says:

    I think it’d be fun to shoot back. Call the dealership and social engineer some contact info for their head of marketing. Then send snail mail addressed to their GM or their general counsel or something. Make it official looking from the FBI or some other government agency, claiming that the marketing head is under investigation for child porn. State that the dealership is liable because “our investigation has determined that some messages originated from your business’s computers”.

    Worded properly, you could at best get the person making the shady marketing decisions fired, and at worst at least point out to the owner that fake government trouble notices are not amusing.

  64. Trai_Dep says:

    @FightOnTrojans: It doesn’t seem legal that the only out for a ticket that shows you’re CLEARLY not the one behind the wheel is to do the police’s job and find the real criminal. Especially when this wouldn’t be an issue if, y’know, you had a real cop giving the ticket. It seems that they (Boeing and our municipality, for me) is using you as an unpaid employee for them.
    And, while a live police officer wouldn’t ticket for safe acts in violation (the reason my friend got his ticket was he was in the left turn lane behind another car, who took too long to turn. The car ahead was being conservative by ensuring a car careening ahead was actually stopping; my friend was being conservative by being only the second car out in the left turn lane, and by not freezing in the middle of the road when the light turned red). A real cop wouldn’t have ticketed it, or would have let them go upon hearing the explanation.
    That said, I told them I had a friend visiting from Japan and I gave them a made-up name and address in Tokyo. I’d think your visiting Swiss friend (cough) might serve the same purpose?

    The annoying thing is that it’s a system designed to falsely accuse as many people as they can, betting that they will miss the summons and be unable to appear in court. It’s unfair.
    It’s also corrupt: the contractor (Boeing in this case) gets half the revenues, so they have an incentive to plaster as many people as they can to drive up their revenues. Every innocent, wrongly-convicted driver is extra cash for them. Delivered to them at the point of a (rhetorical) gun, our police. It’s rotten thru and thru.

  65. AgentTuttle says:

    Thank God it’s not a ticket! I think I’ll buy one of their cars! NOT.

    Just report it to the Postmaster General as mail fraud, that’ll fix their wagon.

  66. shepd says:

    @Trai_Dep: Tickets like these are permitted on this idea (these are Absolute Liability offenses, that means no Mens Rea required):

    - Was the car within your possession at the time?
    – If no, did you willingly allow someone else to use it?
    – If no, did you report the vehicle stolen?
    – If no, why? (At this point, you’ve lost. Even if you’re in a coma in hospital at the time. You’d need to prove you are such a hermit with ZERO friends to beat it at this point.)

    Yes to any of the above means you had control of the vehicle, or you legally assumed the liability of the use of the vehicle while it was under someone else’s possession.

    Now, since the government can only prove your liability for the offense, and not that you actually directly committed it, your insurance isn’t affected, and you don’t personally lose any points. But, in the same way that if you let someone else walk your dog and they bite someone in the ass you’re on the hook for it, you’re on the hook for the ticket.

    Most parking tickets are absolute liability offenses, for the same reasons above (Unless your car was stolen, or some act of god caused it [eg: tornado deposited it there] you are liable for it being there. Even then you may have to either get the people that stole the car to pay for the ticket, or sue god for the tornado. :-) )

    Most moving related offenses (apart form cameras tickets) are strict liability offenses. A strict liability offence requires more than just proving the offense happened, it requires that you made the conscious decision to commit the offense (whether or not you understood it is an offense, that’s part of what makes it strict). Eg: You cannot get stuck with a speeding ticket if you can prove your accelerator got stuck, since you made no decision for that to happen (well, assuming you have records that you keep your car in repair). But you certainly can get one for driving 80 km/h on a residential road, even if there are no speed limit signs and you genuinely thought that was okay, as there is no requirement to prove a guilty mind, just that it was within your reasonable control to prevent the offense.

    ALWAYS fight an absolute liability offense by proving mistakes in the presentation of the offense (eg: camera didn’t put the correct information on the ticket [very few mistakes will actually strike the ticket, but anything is better than nothing], crown didn’t send you disclosure on that, you can prove your car wasn’t there at the time, etc).

    The above goes for strict liability as well, but you may also prove that you weren’t under reasonable control of the (whatever).

    Never try to fight absolute liability by saying you didn’t do it unless you can give your car an alibi (eg: It was in the garage, here’s the receipt), or you actually aren’t liable (eg: In hospital for coma, car was stolen).

    I’m sure in the US there’s the exact same concept with more complicated words.

    As for the idea of “beyond a shadow of a doubt”, that doesn’t apply to strict and absolute liability cases. They are judged on a balance of probabilities. If the judge is feeling 51% sure the fault is yours, you’re convicted. Next!

    Yes, it really is this strict. I’ve watched in court as someone proved they had driven their mother to the MOT to get their disabled permit be convicted for parking in a disabled spot.

    Your best bet, for absolute liability tickets you think are wrong, is to waste the city court’s time as much as possible, to make the ticket as painfully expensive for them as possible. It took two court days (one in which they had to actually hear my case separately, with no other cases on the docket) for them to get $20 out of me. I was convicted for parking on the street at 2:45 AM (I picked up my car & ticket at 2:50 AM). We have a law that says you have to take your car off the street by 2:30 AM so that the snowplows can plow. They never plow until 4:00 AM (the joy of working nights) and there was no snow that night. I figure that $20 cost the parking enforcement department $500.

    Before you say I waste taxpayer money, consider this: The parking court and parking enforcement department have budgets. They don’t magically up your taxes if all the money disappears, nor do they take the money from the orphanage: Instead, they have to patrol less, and only choose “juicy” target. If they want to put more money into those budgets, it’s public info. Any serious increase will be reported in the newspaper and the mayor will get the boot faster than you can say “WTF”. And no, I really don’t care if the meter maids don’t have any jobs. And no, the regular police don’t police these things, even as punishment (at least here they don’t). Just dedicated meter maids.

    Oh, before you fight tickets willy-nilly, check to make sure your courts don’t assess you court fees for losing! Where I am they don’t (I believe it’s illegal to do that, actually). The only thing you have to lose (here) is possibly the cost of the victim surcharge, which sometimes you can get knocked off your ticket if you don’t go to court (sometimes, not very often).

    And another bonus rule: The crown/prosecution/DA/whatever is *never* allowed to testify. Ever, ever, ever, ever. If they were involved it’s conflict of interest and they have to get someone else to try it. If they just want to say “But there’s a sign on that road that says XXX” they *must* get a witness to prove it, or get official records to prove it. The crown here tried that (and got away with it!) in over half of the cases I watched. If you don’t object, it’s assumed you’re okay with it, though.

    Gawd, sorry for the long post. It’s just after being in court and seeing the feeble attempts of others to get out of tickets (Out of the dozens I’ve seen, perhaps ONE person won, 90% just said “BUT I DIDN’T DO IT!”… LOL!), I realize *very* few people actually know these things! It’s really handy to understand them, if you don’t like paying high insurance rates or ridiculous tickets.

  67. Trai_Dep says:

    @shepd: That was an incredibly well-informed and helpful take on the logic of the two types of violations. Can’t say I agree with it (the idea of having to rat out a friend because the constable is too lazy to write a ticket himself repulses), but I can see where they’re coming from.
    I especially like how you explain why the I-didn’t-do-it defense doesn’t work for absolute liability offenses. Before your explanation, I didn’t get it. Now I do.
    Thanks so much!

  68. FLConsumer says:

    Seems like the perfect thing to send to your local TV reporters.

  69. ithasacarb says:

    The only thing to do in a situation like this is contact Robert Wall (publisher for The courier News) the local news and let them know what’s going on: jlee@scn1.com that is the community news email address.

    And then give Steve Grady (General Manager) or Colleen Feeny (Customer Relations Manager) a call and let them know how low it is to do something like this: Feeny Chrysler Jeep Dodge 1010 E Chicago Street Elgin, IL 60120 (847)697-0900

  70. Baronzemo says:

    I see these half-assed charities who show up at tailgate events all the time, they’re always women in security-looking uniforms holding ticketbooks who approach guys drinking declaring “Is that beer? I’ve gotta cite you-FOR HAVING A GOOD TIME!” Then they reveal the “ticket book” is donation slips for Save The Baby Seals or whatever, you’re so relieved it’s not a cop you pony up the $5 or whatever. I’m thinking it’s stupid-if they run into an itchy drunk guy on parole they could get shot

  71. Nick_Bentley says:

    This is probably some stunt they won’t mail out a second time.

  72. Adisharr says:

    I sent them a long email telling them how much they suck.

  73. PLATTWORX says:

    “obviously their strategy worked” No, it did not work. WHO would open this envelope and then go buy a car from this slimy dealership who tried to trick them into reading an ad??? NO ONE.

    If the dealership will pull this on you, can you imagine what else they’ll try. There are actually mailing companies out there who create these sneaky mailings for dealerships!

    I roll my eyes at 75% of new car dealers ads. Who falls for this stuff?????