WaMu: You're Lying About Someone Breaking Into Your iTunes Account

WaMu’s crack fraud department is at it again, according to reader Kristin. Someone broke into her iTunes account and bought a couple hundred dollars worth of iTunes gift cards with her debit card information. She disputed the charge and WaMu told her not to worry — they’d take care of it. Two months later, while on a trip to Chicago, WaMu reversed the credits, causing Kristin to become severely overdrawn. No amount of protesting will convince WaMu that she wasn’t lying about the iTunes break-in. Why? Because she never responded to some mail they sent to her old address.

I wanted to tell you guys about my positively sexy Washington Mutual experience. On 6/01/08, someone hacked into my iTunes account, and using my debit card information, purchased two $200 gift cards, something I noticed when checking my online statement. I call WaMu immediately, tell them about the fraud, and they say they will issue me provisional credits, which they do. I then ask the fateful questions that started this mess:

“Is there anything I need to do or give you? Should I call iTunes? Do I need to investigate?”

The answer was a swift, resounding, no. You don’t need to do anything. We will contact Apple and we will investigate.

I’ve had good luck with WaMu, so I honestly had no reason to think that this was not even close to the correct answer. I’ve never been defrauded before, so I assumed that I had done my part, and that if something came up, they have my phone number and the WaMu message center, so they could let me know immediately. This was incredibly stupid.

Fast forward two months and change, I’m taking a trip from LA to Chicago for my very first production of a play I’d written. I check my balance before I leave. I take the red eye, I buy food, gum, etc. I land in Chicago at about 6 AM, and crash. The next day I try to use my card. It’s declined. I have a dress rehearsal in three hours.

I check my balance and the two credits are gone, the withdrawal dated for sometime between when my connecting flight left Las Vegas and when I woke up. I am now severely overdrawn. What’s worse, the four things I purchased while in LA and in transit conveniently all clear in the day after the provisional credits are revoked, each invoking their own overdraft. No warning. No notice. No calls.

I go the bank, the teller tells me that the bank has deduced that I lied about the fraud, and there’s nothing I can do. I throw a fit, he gives me a number to call. I call the number. The CSR tells me that what happened was that affidavits were sent to my graduate housing address on, literally, the day I moved out after getting my master’s and because they were sent back returned, there’s nothing he can do.

This is the first I’m hearing about affidavits, period. This is the first I’m hearing about affidavits being sent to an address I wasn’t at, and the first I’m hearing about them being sent back. I pitch a fit. He tells me that I could try sending proof of my residency claim and info to a fax number, and address it to an Alex Wilson.

I fax my proof of residency, and call CS back to follow up, asking if I could get Alex Wilson’s extension. I am told that Alex Wilson is not a real person. He is just a name for people to fax things to.

What?

Also, there is no way for me to follow up with him, or the office where the documents were sent. I have to be patient and wait for a letter in the mail. I honestly have no idea if any of this is true.

I should mention at this point that due to be being stranded and broke, I have missed the final rehearsal, and half of the shows. I call CS back again. I explain the situation, I ask if there is anything she can do. She notes that the investigation is opened back up, but that now I need to contact iTunes and fax WaMu proof that what I say happened, did.

What about the affidavits? What about the part where I didn’t need to contact anyone? The CSR reinforced that she didn’t know what I was told in the past, but this was what I needed to do now. And I can’t have my provisional credit back, or the four overdrafts.

At this point, I have missed my show entirely. I call Executive Customer Service the day my flight is leaving, and leave a message. No response. I beg for a ride to the airport, and on my layover, write an e-mail to ECSR, explaining what happened. I get an e-mail the next day that is kind and apologetic, and says that this should be resolved in 24-48 hours. I celebrate pre-maturely.

I check in with her at 24 hours, she is still working on it. I check in at 48, no response. And then, at about 76 hours, I get an e-mail that diplomatically informs me that I am lying about how I was informed and guided after the fraud, and that it was my fault for moving (and I guess, by proxy, getting my masters) at the wrong time, and my fault for not having a future address at that time, despite my not having any idea what that address would be used for beyond account identity verification. It was phrased: “According to our policies, what you have suggested could never f*cking happen and you are full of sh*t.”

And that, despite the fact that I faxed the required info when I returned to LA, that I have repeatedly referred to this as fraud, and not a dispute, that I have a f*cking phone and access to a message center that they use to inform me of other important things, I got the dreaded “we have insufficient information to dispute the charge with the merchant.”

Not having the presence of mind to disbelieve what the debit fraud CSR says costs about 536 dollars, priceless memories, and a week and a half. Took a screenshot of my message center inbox, just in case. What other evidence do I need to start assembling so that I can nail these bastards?

-Kristin


The Electronic Funds Transfer Act, which governs debit card transactions, is pretty clear on this issue. If you report the theft of your card or your code within two business days, your liability is limited to $50. We’re pretty sure that someone stealing your debit card information from your iTunes account and ordering gift cards with it counts as fraud and not an “error.” Here’s some more information about the law from the Federal Reserve.

With this in mind, why not file an official complaint with their regulator? It’ll be valuable later on if you have to keep fighting with them. Here’s how you do that:

  1. Contact WaMu with a formal complaint. You can do this in writing, or by email. Keep a copy of this complaint for your records.

  2. Figure out which agency regulates your bank by calling or using FDIC’s Bank Find. We happen to know that Washington Mutual’s primary regulator is the Office of Thrift Supervision.
  3. Write a formal complaint letter to the bank’s regulatory agency. Follow the FTC’s instructions for writing a complaint.

    This document also has the correct contact information for the various regulatory agencies. Keep a copy of this complaint for your records.

    By filing a complaint, the regulating agency will investigate whether WaMu actually violated any banking regulations.


That might be enough to get their attention. If not, you might want to locate some free legal help in your area and see if they have any ideas. You could also try sending an EECB to Apple, since it was their website that got broken into. Maybe they can help you deal with WaMu, or provide some additional evidence for you. …And who knows? Maybe you can sue WaMu in small claims court. This small claims advice page says you can serve a small claims lawsuit to a bank teller!

For more information about launching an EECB, click here.

(Photo: Stirwise )

UPDATE: 9/02/08: In response to our email inquiry, WaMu has said they’re interested in checking out this story.

Comments

  1. freedom69 says:

    All you have to do is get them to fax the affidavit to a branch,complete it and get it notorized and send it back. As for giving them proof of your residence, you did not need to do that the fact is you did not get it and that’s all they need to know. Furthermore they should have told you that when they were closing your card. Wamu is full of poo. They do not have any proof that you made the purchase because merchants do not give banks that information due to privacy laws.

  2. iCanhasLs2plz says:

    Why is this department still functioning? Countless times I have called and sat waiting for over 30 minutes, while the phone broke up, over some sort of faulty connection, leading me to believe it was definitely being outsourced. You would think something as detrimental as the ‘fraud department’ would have easy access to speak to a representative as soon as possible.

  3. consum3rist says:

    Looks like OP screwed up big time. You have to take things seriously, you called and WAMU told everything will be fine is as ignorant as it could get.

    Any financial institution requires you to file a affidavit with respect to fraudulent charges. If its not signed and submitted you have no where to go.

    I got 2300$ back from Citibank based on following proper procedures.
    (and it would be same with WAMU)

  4. BrendaNerq says:

    The bank has 120 days to file the chargeback for this transaction. What date did this transaction take place? If it was before May, then the OP is out of luck, unless the bank will take the loss (which technically they have to do for 2 years from the transaction date. Threaten to call the OCC (Office of the Comptroller of the Currency) and file a complaint. That should help.

  5. Qu33nZR3p1n9 says:

    Don’t even have to Read the Hole story; Its not WaMu fault u moved! :) kidding but yeah its a fraud issue if they send u a letter to get notarized and u don’t answer back what do u think they going to do? send u a candy!? Its a legal paper, its like curt day if u don’t show up don’t expect them not look for you, yeah its not your fault that wamu didn’t have your address, neither was there’s

  6. jennej says:

    @consum3rist: Not true about every financial institution requiring an affidavit.

    About a year ago, I discovered a fraudulent charge on my Bank of America credit card. They did not require me to submit an affidavit or sign anything. The charges were removed immediately, and several weeks later I received a letter stating that their investigation was complete and the matter was closed.

  7. lolababy says:

    @consum3rist: I was actually beating myself up over the same thing, that if I’d known the procedures, and not been an idiot, this would have been OK.

    But then my sister reminded me that when she had debit fraud on her WaMu card, she never signed anything, and it was resolved. I’m getting the sense that it is situationally sensitive.

  8. gatewaytoheaven says:

    I wish you luck with dealing with WaMu. I had a situation with them in which they didn’t place my credit card in a rewards program which it was supposed to have been and it was nightmare to have them rectify that situation. Perhaps Apple might be willing to step up and come to your defense.

  9. abigsmurf says:

    One thing I see a lot in these stories is people getting into trouble because banks or utilities sent an important notice to an address where they didn’t live at.

    I’m afraid it’s your responsibility to tell these places that you’ve moved or won’t be at that address. How are they supposed to know if you’ve moved or not or if you’re going to be away from the house for a while?

    Whilst she should have been made aware she’d be asked to take further action, it could’ve easily been a notice for something unexpected that required action.

    If you’re moving you sort out address changes with companies in advance so you have a painless switchover, failing that, get your mail redirected for a period until you get things sorted, it’s pretty simple to do.

    Companies aren’t psychic and you never know when you’ll receive an important letter. If you tell them you’ve moved (and a letter arrives after they’ve had a fair chance to update their info) and you still get letters sent to an old address, that’s a different matter as they’ll be in the wrong.

  10. crashfrog says:

    @lolababy: Yeah I had more than 5 grand stolen from my checking account by some Taco Bell employee that grabbed my wife’s debit card number and bought two plasma TV’s from it, the day after we deposited an insurance disbursement. (Our apartment had burned down three weeks before.) I only noticed when my card wouldn’t authorize for lunch.

    Bank of America canceled the transactions by phone, I never had to sign anything or return anything in the mail. But then again we caught the fraud when it was still pending. Maybe the procedures are different after it’s already gone through? Regardless, WaMu is deeply in the wrong here if service personnel directly stated that you wouldn’t have to be sent anything.

  11. Ilovemygeek says:

    I had a Wamu account when I was in college, my Mom used to deposit checks her paychecks into my account which was allowed at the time. Then they changed their policies and decided that instead of mailing the checks back to my Mom, they would send them to my old address (a dorm) despite the fact that I had updated them with my new address. The dorm didn’t forward mail so I lost about 600 dollars in checks. I switched banks the following week. My husband and I have BOA and despite the horror stories, we’ve been pretty happy with them.

  12. RhymePhile says:

    As soon as I read this I immediately logged into iTunes and took my debit card off and put a credit card on.

    At the bottom of the “Edit Payment Information” page is this cute little note:

    “Apple uses industry-standard encryption to protect the confidentiality of your personal information.”

    Yeah, right!

  13. BrendaNerq says:

    @ jennej: They might not have required the affidavit because they had no chargeback rights. If an internet site is “Verified by Visa” or it was a counterfeit, lost, or stolen card, the only items the bank can chargeback are pay at the pump items and any items the merchant cannot provide a signed sales slip for. There is no reason to require the affidavit if once it is received, the items will simply be written off by the bank.