Disagree With Walmart's Bike Policy? Take Off Your Clothes In Protest!

BikeForums member ReachHigher stripped down to her sports bra and spandex after Walmart refused to let her enter the store with her $600 bike. A manager explained that since Walmart sold bikes, bringing in an outside bike would obviously be too confusing to handle. ReachHigher asked if they also sold shirts. “She said yes so I took off my jersey and said well then I’d better not bring this in either…”

…She got kind of flustered and said that it was a different situation but couldn’t explain why. So I said that if they also sold shorts in the store that I’d better not wear those in either and I took off my shorts. Same goes for the shoes and sunglasses. Now I’m standing there in my spandex and a sports bra and I ask here if I can leave my things behind the customer service counter where they will be safe until I finish making my purchases and she said that I couldn’t come into the store without shoes on, to which i responded “but I certainly can’t wear shoes into the store because you sell those here and someone might think I’ve stolen them.” She threatened to call security if I didn’t leave so I told her that I would never be coming back to that store again and that I was glad I hadn’t driven there since the gas to go four miles was probably more expensive than what her underpaid employees make in an hour.

Her expression when the shirt came off was absolutely priceless…I was pretty tempted to take off the spandex too but I wasn’t sure what constitutes indecent exposure in Virginia so I figured I’d err on the side of caution. Still I had a decent sized crowd gathered before the end of the discussion.

Wal Mart is Evil so I took off my clothes [Bike Forums]
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  1. JoeTan says:

    Hmmmmm maybe I should start going to walmart…

  2. That’s… different.

  3. MikeToole says:

    1. Oh for christ’s sake lady, just chain your bike up at the rack out front. I have a $600 langster that I boogie around town in, and I chain that thing up all over the place on my shopping trips. If you really feel uncomfortable doing that sort of thing, then restrict your cycling to excursions where you don’t have to leave your bike unattended.

    2. pics or it didn’t happen ;)

    addendum: of course, if the store has no bike rack, then it is evil and you shouldn’t be shopping there in the first place. wouldn’t surprise me, this IS wal-mart that we’re talking about here…

  4. xanax25mg says:

    should there be a tagline for “batshit crazy consumer”? “completely irrational consumer”? “makes walmart seem reasonable consumer”?

  5. PHX602 says:

    A self-absorbed melodramatic bike asshole. What a surprise.

  6. CMU_Bueller says:

    @MikeToole: I, too, have no problem leaving my bike chained out front either. Most stores (yes, even Wally World) have no problem with someone chaining a bike to a fence, cart return or anything else that’s solid as long as the bike isn’t causing too much interruption. Sounds like she should have invested in a $560 bike and a solid lock.

  7. jstonemo says:

    This isn’t Europe or Boulder, CO! Get a car!

    They don’t sell cars at Wal-mart, so I could probably drive my car in the front door so that nobody steals it out in the parking lot.

  8. xanax25mg says:

    having lived in bike friendly places like Chicago and now Portland I have NEVER seen anyone just mosey around a store carting their bike around. Maybe to pop into a minimart to grab a vitamin water, but to think of someone just leiusrely strolling around a department store with their bike is just stupid.

    It’s this sort of entitled attitude that bikers are starting to get (check out the past 2 weeks in Portland at oregonlive.com to see the daily fistfights between bikers an motorists) vis a vis “we can drive anyway we want; we can take our bike anywhere we want” that is really making people irritated.

  9. xanax25mg says:

    i also question Carey tagging this post “activism” since the biker wasn’t really standing up for some greater good, she just wanted special treatment for herself and permission to be a huge tw*t

  10. tc4b says:

    @PHX602:

    You say melodramatic and self-absorbed, I say a good-humored person with fun ways to make life interesting. She didn’t write any complaint letters or an eecb or anything, she just took off some clothes. No harm, no foul, just good times and smiles! Except you, you’re just bitter.

  11. plasticredtophat says:

    Thats alittle much.. I mean she wouldn’t let you take your bike in! ITS A FREAKING BIKE! So you take your clothes off? Well at least the people at walmart got a free show that day!

  12. ophmarketing says:

    ReachHigher, you’re my new favorite person in the whole world. Brilliant!

  13. nealb says:

    @xanax25mg

    I agree. It seems like these days more and more bikers want to be both a “pedestrian” and a “motor vehicle” at the same time. I have been stuck behind several bikers lately impeding traffic and not giving enough room for people to pass. They seem to think they deserve as much of the road as anyone. If they want to use the road they can’t impede traffic any more than a driver is allowed to impede traffic. Then they’ll hop up on the sidewalk and go through crosswalks to avoid red lights and other inconveniences of driving. Grrr.

  14. sreppok says:

    Hello Everyone! I suggest that those who post comments read the full story first. I personally think that she is a little less irrational than most people think.

  15. xanax25mg says:

    @nealb: my bigger beef, as a pedestrian, are bikers who view red lights and Stop signs as mere suggestions rather than rules of the road they are obligated to obey.

  16. TampaShooters says:

    YOUR $600 bike can be locked up outside, next to my $30,000 SUV in the parking lot..

  17. xanax25mg says:

    @sreppok: i read the full story, in what way was she not irrational? Walmart had a perfectly reasonable policy, her response was to take off her clothes. She took walmarts request to the utmost extreme “you sell clothes so I should take mine off so you dont think I stole them” which is just silly.

  18. JoshMac says:

    @sreppok: I read it and if this woman was a man I’d think of them as being a tool. It’s bad enough people bring children strollers into stores that do nothing but clog aisles, last thing I need to see is some douche on their bike. By the way, lick it.

  19. ITDEFX says:

    Which VA walmart was this? The Fairfax, VA one?

  20. DePaulBlueDemon says:

    It really isn’t the same because you’re walking in with the shirt on your back, etc. If I walk out empty handed with just the clothes on my back I won’t be stopped, the fake security by the door will assume I did not purchase anything. However, if I walk out with a BICYCLE they may think it belongs to Wal-Mart. Nevertheless, they just should have given her permission to take her bicycle in. They could have put a small tag on the handlebards, etc, like they do in hardware stores when you bring your own tape measure, etc.

    But I really do believe this lady should invest in a high-quality bike security system. :)

  21. thelushie says:

    This woman makes all bicyclists seem like nuts. They won’t let you bring it in because you are going, to like, push it through the store which could constitute a safety hazard. The clothing example is stupid because you are, you know like, wearing the clothes. *rolls eyes*

    Yeah, reachhigher, the crowd wasn’t there in solidarity, they were there to watch you get naked. Brilliant, indeed.

  22. xanax25mg says:

    @tc4b: Or, as a psychologist I can say her whole “I’ll take off my clothes because walmart wont let me drag my bike around the store” as both narcissistic and histrionic. Not only did she do this but she wanted to post a blog announcing it to the whole world how she stuck it to the man. That’s not different than any other consumerist post on EECB’ing or a long winded complaint letter. Watching a crazy homeless person on a bus scream that Oprah is controlling their mind while they take a shit on a seat is also making life interesting, but it’s also irritating too.

  23. PHX602 says:

    @tc4b: Sure I’m bitter. I had ACL surgery a few weeks ago and can’t ride my bike. If I can’t ride my bike, I can’t go to my local Big Box and start stripping off my bike shorts.

  24. RoboSheep says:

    Read
    The
    F**king
    Article
    Before
    You
    Comment.

    RTFABYC, Learn it, Use it.

    There was no bikerack, so much for being green Wal-mart. It takes a bit more than just selling Compact-Florescent lights.

  25. KittensRCute! says:

    i thought it was a pretty funny and witty way to make a point. of course not everyone has a sense of humor.

  26. xanax25mg says:

    @DePaulBlueDemon: the point is why should they do all the things you reccommended walmart do? If I have a 210 lb Bovier dog I don’t feel like chaining to the lamp post outside should they allow me to bring that in because I want to? She chose to not chain/lock her bike to something she felt wasn’t secure so that’s her problem, it’s not up to walmart to come up with a whole security system that suits her needs.

  27. thelushie says:

    @sreppok: I read the story (following the link). She still seems irrational to me. As someone already mentioned, you can lock a bike to a fence, the basket corrals. Yes, there is a chance your bike will get hit but those who park cars in parking lots also face those dangers. You make choices with your mode of transportation.

  28. JeffDrummer says:

    As an avid biker myself, I hate hearing this stuff. Read an issue of bicycling magazine and you will hear stories and letters about how bikes can drive in the same lanes as motorists, and its the law! Just plain stupid! We know that we are already a bit meddlesome to traffic, we shouldn’t make it worse.

    And this lady! Whew! She’s lucky they didn’t throw her out, and she is actually doing Wal Mart a favor by not going back.

  29. acasto says:

    I can’t believe so many people are bashing the woman and not even questioning whether or not the reason was because she simply couldn’t bring her bike in or rather due to the managers illogical explanation. Her reaction make perfect sense to me. What if I want to bring my bottle of water in with me. Can I not do that because they sell bottled water there? If the reason is rather due to it being obstructive or a liability or whatever, then why not just say that?

    @JoshMac: You would do best just to move out to the middle of the country. You seem to have issues with people in general.

  30. Taed says:

    By that logic, I suppose the original poster wouldn’t have an issue with bringing a motorcycle inside, particularly since Walmart (no hyphen anymore) doesn’t sell motorcycles. However, they probably do sell motorcycle tires and accessories in some locations, so to reduce confusion, be sure to leave those at customer service. :-)

  31. xanax25mg says:

    @RoboSheep: every walmart I’ve been to has traffic signs in front of the store “i.e. No Parking/Loading Zone, etc” that she could have tethered the bike to. Walmarts also are almost always in shopping plazas with other stores nearby that may have bike racks or some other object to lock it to. She just wanted her bike parking experience to be perfect to her standards and wanted everyone else to conform to it.

  32. JeffDrummer says:

    And wait, when there isn’t a bike rack I tie my bike to lamp post, or some of fixed object. What a moron!

  33. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    As an avid cycling enthusiast and Walmart hater, I think this woman is a disgrace. She’s most likely the belligerent type of cyclist that antagonizes cars and trucks to make a statement and makes it tough for the rest of us who just want to get along and enjoy the sport.

    The truth of the matter is Walmart CAN restrict what you bring in, or wear. They can refuse you admittance if you don’t follow their rules. It’s your choice to enter under their conditions.

    I realize whar a craphole WalMart is and as a result just don’t go there.

    I’m wondering why this “Cyclist” even needed to go to WM on her ride anyway. I’ll bet it was most likely to cause a scene.

    Wonder if she threatened to sue.

  34. pdizz says:

    She should not just be allowed to bring her bike in the store and walk around with it, however the manager should have used a different rationalization. It would be perfectly reasonable to say that a customer cant walk around with the bike in the store as it could be disruptive to other customers (especially in a cramped store). Taking off one’s clothes in the middle of the store could also be considered disruptive to other shoppers so you get two birds with one stone.

    Many of these consumerist stories seem to stem from managers not reasonably dealing with situations that arise. This gives the customer a sense of entitlement to blow the issue way out of proportion. Few of the posts seem to be legitimate abuse of the consumers. Still entertaining stuff though!

  35. dtracker says:

    The point isn’t that they wouldn’t let her bring her bike in. The point is that they gave a completely stupid reason why she couldn’t bring her bike in.

    In case you don’t get it, most of the purpose of this site is to take the side of the *consumer* against horrible, nonsensical behavior of businesses.

    @nealb: a bike is not a car and a person on a bike is not the same as a person walking. There are different rules and laws. Most resentment comes from people trying to apply car or pedestrian methods to bikes.

  36. xanax25mg says:

    let’s look at the broader issue– she wanted to bring her bike in and walmart told her a policy she did not agree with. So if she wanted to have lunch at a 4 star restaurant and there was no bike rack out front, is she then entitled to bring her bike in? If she doesn’t like their explanation the bike will be in the way, it’s unsightly, etc, does she have the right to hold some sit-in or create a scene that, according to some of you at least, “keeps life interesting and fun”?

  37. xanax25mg says:

    @dtracker: why does walmart have to give her any reason? they are a private company that can tell her not to bring it in. How is their behavior “nonsensical”? If there are lampposts/traffic signs, etc she could have chained her bike to but instead wants to roll it around a store how is her behavior anymore sensical and rational? If you go to your friends house (a private party just like walmart) and you want to bring your bike in his small apartment and he says no because it would get in the way (his policy) is it not reasonable to just accept that and either abide by it or leave?

  38. CMU_Bueller says:

    @dtracker: In most states vehicle laws are vehicle laws. They apply to cars, trucks, mopeds, motorcycles and *GASP* bikes. Most of the resentment comes from cyclists that don’t want to be inconvenienced by laws.

  39. jetpack says:

    The problem was with the Walmart excuse: you can’t bring it in because we sell them. The should have used practically any other excuse, such as, it’s store policy, or that they just don’t like bikes in the store. They do allow strollers and other such people moving vehicles in the store. why not bikes? Her actions were just the logical punchline to the manager’s fouled reasoning.

  40. The_Gas_Man says:

    I wish this would happen at my Walmart.

    @tc4b
    But seriously, just because someone (like PHX602) tells it like it is doesn’t make him bitter. xanax25mg is right on the money, too.

  41. thelushie says:

    @hoffmeister_hoff: She needed to buy some CD-Rs so she could send a file to her university. That raises my bullshit alarm too.

  42. nsv says:

    You guys are all just ticked off because you missed the show.

  43. The_Gas_Man says:

    @RoboSheep:
    Now the point of the story is no longer the woman who acted irrationally, but Walmart sinning against Mother Earth by not providing bike racks to stop global warming. Let’s stay on point here.

  44. prodevel says:

    Wonderful! Love it.

  45. dtracker says:

    @xanax25mg: I agree. Walmart doesn’t need to give her any reason for not bringing her bike in. “No bikes allowed in the store” is a perfectly fine policy. But, again, that’s not what the story illustrates. The point is that they gave her a completely stupid reason and she called them on it.

    @CMU_Bueller: It obviously depends what the laws are in your area. And the resentment I was talking about was the whole “oh crap, there’s a bike in front of my car slowing me down”/”oh crap, look at that bike on the sidewalk, why aren’t they in the street, where they belong?” that some drivers have. And, yes, cyclists do run stop signs and breaks laws, but the experience of riding a bike is completely different than the experience of driving a motorized vehicle. I always thought the laws should be updated to reflect that. But that’s a whole other issue.

  46. anthonyhasp says:

    For those of you who have not read the link, please allow me to paraphrase it for you:

    {i}I hate Wal-Mart with every fiber of my being. However, the fates determined that I must journey down the dangerous four mile road and enter into the gates of HELL to pick up a CD-R spindle. Because Wal-Mart hates the earth and all of its living creatures, they had removed all vertical objects to which I could secure my $600 bicycle.

    “So I walk into the walmart and the most evil grandmother I’ve ever met grabs my arm with her claws and says I can’t bring it into the store.” She does suggest that I leave it in the foyer where she is stationed (likely so that she can urinate on it).

    Undeterred, I continue to argue with the old bat and she calls a manager over. The evil moron again tells me no, and gives me the lame excuse that they sell bikes and they wouldn’t want to confuse their idiot employees and that it could also lead to a safety issue. “So I asked her why she thought a bike controlled by an adult was more dangerous than a shopping cart being pushed around by someone’s bratty kids.”

    The manager, defeated, went back to the lame excuse that they sell bikes in the store so I couldn’t bring another bicycle in. I asked her if they also sold shirts in the store. She said yes so I took off my jersey and said well then I’d better not bring this in either. I continued to take off my shorts and shoes and asked if I could leave them at the service counter while I shopped. At this point, the bitch had the gall to tell me to leave the store.

    “She threatened to call security if I didn’t leave so I told her that I would never be coming back to that store again and that I was glad I hadn’t driven there since the gas to go four miles was probably more expensive than what her underpaid employees make in an hour.”{/i}

    The manager should have just approached her at the beginning and informed her that they have the right to refuse service to anyone and asked her to leave.

  47. anthonyhasp says:

    @nsv: Not really. I would assume that this lady is divorced and in her mid-40s. She makes a big deal about having to bike 4 miles (I bike 5 miles to and from work everyday, and you wouldn’t want to see me without my shirt on) so I would bet that just down to the spandex and sports bra was rather horrific.

  48. thelushie says:

    @anthonyhasp: True, but then you would have had her blathering on about how they refused her service for no good reason, blah, blah, blah. It is a no win situation for a business when you have irrational customers.

  49. purplesun says:

    “I was glad I hadn’t driven there since the gas to go four miles was probably more expensive than what her underpaid employees make in an hour.”

    Any respect I had for this person, (which admittedly wasn’t much), just went out the window.

    Essentially declaring that you’re soooo much better than folks working in retail and therefore you should get what you want isn’t activism. It’s snobbery.

    As hard as it is for me to type this, Walmart was in the right. If they told her no, she should have left without causing a scene and taken her business elsewhere. Accuse me of blaming the OP if you like, but I don’t see how that kind of behavior reflects well on consumers, nor do I think that it should celebrated.

  50. The Dude says:

    She’s so funny and interesting.. She takes off her clothes in front of quite a few children I imagine, because a retail store doesn’t want her slogging her outdoor bike around.

  51. MuppetChrist says:

    Wal-Mart sells sports bras and spandex shorts, too.

  52. helloashley says:

    I am a cyclist. I don’t bring my bike into stores unless it’s specifically permitted, like a bike store. This woman caused a fuss for no reason!

  53. Canino says:

    I wish more hot athletic women would disagree with my policies.

  54. rpm773 says:

    So, let me get this straight. The OP doesn’t get what she wants, so she takes off her clothes in protest? That stopped working for me when I was two years old, and I moved on.

    Power to the people.

  55. Shmonkmonk says:

    The Walmart manager’s reasons seems stupid but so is bringing in a bike. It’s rude and obtrusive to other customers.

    Oh, and the snarky comment about Walmart employees wage… if it’s a store in Northern VA, they’re probably pulling in more than you think. Retail workers at places like Walmart, Target, JCPenney, etc. averages from $7-$14 an hour, with some manager’s pulling in six figures- easy. You would be hard pressed to find one making minimum wage.

  56. PinkBox says:

    If I had a cyclist friend visiting, should I be forced to allow them to bring their bike inside my home because I don’t have a bike rack outside my apartment?

    This entire thing is silly. Who normally thinks of bringing bikes inside places of business to begin with?

  57. karmaghost says:

    She should have followed through and taken everything off if she really was dedicated to her cause.

    Tip: if you’re worried about your $600 bike getting stolen from where ever you ride it to, then either a.) don’t ride it there or b.) get a very secure chain or other security system, which you should have anyway. I don’t think it was unreasonable for the Wal-Mart employee to keep you from bringing your bike inside their establishment.

  58. karmaghost says:

    Also, I think it was inappropriate to diss her and her employees with the comment about the cost of gas.

  59. PinkBox says:

    //She threatened to call security if I didn’t leave so I told her that I would never be coming back to that store again and that I was glad I hadn’t driven there since the gas to go four miles was probably more expensive than what her underpaid employees make in an hour.//

    That really doesn’t help her gain any sympathy.

  60. Good for her! Read the whole story…no bike racks, and she’d done it before with no problems. She was getting one item, geez. Just another reason not to go to Wal-Mart *

  61. Nick1693 says:

    @xanax25mg: Well, if WalMart had a simple bike rack…

  62. spikespeigel says:

    *Waits for a Wal-Mart without a parking lot*

  63. vitonfluorcarbon says:

    Nucking Futs

    I’m not fan of Wal-Mart but this too extreme to sympathize with.

  64. ovalseven says:

    They both could’ve handled this situation much better.

    You can’t expect every store to have a bike rack. Just chain the bike to a pillar, fence, tree, or whatever else you can find.

    The manager could’ve simply apologized for her inconvenience and offered to hold the bike at the service desk or someplace similar.

    Some people make problems bigger than they need to be.

    I wonder if that Walmart allows baby strollers into their store.

  65. flidget says:

    On the bright side, that was probably the most interesting thing to happen to the greeter all day, PLUS it gave the employees at least a day and a half’s worth of “did you hear about the crazy woman who stripped off because she couldn’t bring her bike in the store?” gossip.

    She’s anti-Walmart and was annoyed that she had to be there before anything even happened, so when a problem arose, she was aggressive and superior about it. If she’d even attempted to work with the manager, rather than shoot down her reasoning as though the manager were just wheelist and making things up to keep those nasty bikes out of her store, I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t have been able to work something out. Where’s the harm in letting the greeter supervise it for the five minutes it’ll take to grab the CDs, go through the checkout, and come back for it?

    Or, you know, make a scene, strip off in a self-righteous tamtrum, and then have a ridiculous, self-indulgent story to tell. Whichever.

  66. dizzydj says:

    I have to side with the biker on this one. I Am not a biker, but when I was forced to bike because my car was impounded, my local Wal-Mark didn’t have a bike rack, and they didn’t want people chaining their bikes to random things, so you HAD to bring it in with you.

    Why don’t all Wal-Mart stores have bike racks? Because they are morons.

    See: Another reason why I don’t shop at Wal-Mart

  67. Nick1693 says:

    @vitonfluorcarbon: Is anyone a fan of We go there because its cheap.

    (From now on, I think i’ll use “” instead of the saying WalMart…)

  68. Nick1693 says:

    @Nick1693: =( the image didnt work. It was the walmart logo

  69. coren says:

    I thought the point was there was nowhere secure provided to chain up her bike, not that she didn’t have the ability to at all. Regardless, it doesn’t matter why she wanted to bring the bike in. It doesn’t matter that Walmarts policy is no bikes allowed, either.

    The real problem is the reason she was cited is asinine, particularly after she’d got into it with an employee who’d remember her (and therefore know she wasn’t jacking the bike). I walked into Costco the other day with a Safeway bag. No trouble going in or out (I just wanted to get lunch at the food court). But I could have shoved something from the store into that bag! (well, maybe not at Costco I couldn’t have, nothing there fits in a grocery bag lol). They didn’t assume I’d try to steal something, or have a dumb policy in place to assume I stole something.

    Hell, why not just stash the bike at the customer service desk? That’s what they have you do at the Best Buy near my house if you come in with a backpack or shopping bag.

  70. Fly Girl says:

    @xanax25mg: You think the bike fight in Portland is getting heated? Check out the latest incident with Critical Mass in Seattle– it’s freakin’ nuts.

    Short story: CM blocks city street, surrounds a car and refuses to let man in car go, starts taunting man/pounding on car/making threats like “Let’s tip this car over!”, man freaks and tries to get the hell outta there, CMers smash in his windows/slash his tires/punch him through his smashed in windows, driver is scared/gets out of car, CMers hit him in the head with a u-lock so hard that he requires stitches.

    Now the city is in all out peds v bikes v cars warfare. Read the threads on the Slog. ([slog.thestranger.com])

    It’s nuts– I don’t understand the entitled attitude of so many cyclers… Common sense dictates that you DON’T BRING YOUR BIKE IN STORES. Sure, Wal*Mart shoulda had bike racks. But they didn’t. I’m sure there were OTHER solid materials that the bike could have been locked to– fences, poles, etc… This rider was just being a spoiled brat.

  71. katinka says:

    If this walmart doesn’t have a bike rack, I don’t see what the problem is. A bike isn’t any bigger than a shopping cart.

  72. flidget says:

    I also find it a bit strange that the OP mentions hypothetically leaving her shirt and shoes at the service desk, but neither side ever brings it up as a solution to the bike issue.

    “Now I’m standing there in my spandex and a sports bra and I ask here if I can leave my things behind the customer service counter where they will be safe until I finish making my purchases and she said that I couldn’t come into the store without shoes on…”

    Now, it’s possible that leaving her bike at the service desk never occurred to her an the manager never offered, and unlikely that she asked and the manager refused, because that surely would have made it into the post.

    I think it’s more likely that the manager offered, but she didn’t want to leave her bike with someone else – the quote above has an air of “oh, should I just leave all this stuff too?”

  73. katinka says:

    No bike racks is a pet peeve of mine.

    I have find it really hard to get bike racks installed at businesses I shop at; I don’t know why. Recently, my town set up a bike rack program where businesses could sign up for them, and still places said no. No grocery store has one, and none of the restaurants or coffee shops. A hair salon signed up for 4, and a bank. The other 19 banks in town turned them down. It is really odd to me, since their workers could also be using them.

    None of the schools in my district have them either.

  74. u1itn0w2day says:

    Even the Walmart manager missed the point.You really should NOT have a bike in a store because of SAFETY.What if another customer trips and falls on the bike.What if she brushes the bike up against someone injuring them or damaging something.SAFETY including other shoppers,employees and property first.

    Same for roller blade or the fact in most places you must have shoes just to walk into a store.SAFETY the’s point and not her right.Security of the bike is HER problem.If you drive a car there you would lock it up OUTSIDE right?.It’s up to the biker to secure the bike and or know where they can secure it.Take the bus if there is no place to chain it.

    Don’t worry,Walmart being so image conscience will have bike racks before you know it.They have an ad campaign like bike to our store save energy and save gas.Talk about your drama queen.

  75. Nofsdad says:

    What happens if EVERY customer decides to take their “special” bike inside stores because it’s too good to be chained outside with the “common bikes? Eventually there won’t be any room in the store for anyone but elitist bike riders and their super expensive bikes.

  76. GreatWhiteNorth says:

    In Ontario we had a special woman, Gwen Jacob, take the province to court over the right to equel treatment under the law… decency laws specifically… back in 91 she won women the right to be bare chested if they so desire… Argument to the cops who picked her up that sunny summer afternoon “and why aren’t you arresting the half naked guys?”

    However, local bylaws and rules governing private property can limit this right… municipal pools can be posted requiring tops… etc…

    So my thought is how would this work here if Walmart has not yet posted their stores shirts required for entry?

  77. Boulderite says:

    @jstonemo: Your post made me laugh!

    If Walmart doesn’t have a place for the bike to be locked up, then she should be able to bring it in. I’d rather see someone with a bike than being ran over by kids wearing Heelys Roller shoes.

  78. dirtleg says:

    @Nofsdad: Ha-Ha! “Elitist bike riders” that cracked me up.
    It seems to me that there are two parties sharing the guilt here. The woman for expecting to be able to drag her stupid bike around the store, and Wal-Mart because, well, because they are Wal-Mart. If they offered for her to park the damn thing inside where the greeter could keep an eye on it, I would think that was being quite accommodating to her paranoia about her bike. I can’t believe that anyone that concerned about the theft of her bike doesn’t carry a chain/cable and a lock everywhere she goes with it.

    On the other hand, it is always open season on Wal-Mart. Fire away!

  79. Canino says:

    @Boulderite: If Walmart doesn’t have a place for the bike to be locked up, then she should be able to bring it in.

    So if Walmart doesn’t provide a place for me to lock up my horse, I should be able to bring him in…right?

  80. whereismyrobot says:

    I want to drive around in my Honda and shop. Then when I don’t get my way, I will call myself an activist when I throw a temper tantrum.

  81. Ninja Tree says:

    Alright so there was nothing to chain your bike onto. what about light posts(I’m pretty sure they have them customers usually don’t like putting their days shopping away in the dark), what about the cart rack things (I’ve never seen a wal-mart without one, or any store, probably because customers don’t like wheeling the shopping cart back inside then heading back out to their car). I think she over reacted
    and left out a few things to make it look better.

  82. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot says:

    I say KUDOS to her. Those who are complaining that bikes are *dangerous* should experience being hit in the ankle by one of the thousands of baby strollers in WM on the weekends. Or kids pushing carts around with no ability to steer them.

    Or just READ the freaking article before posting.

    The WM near me is a box. There are no bike racks either, or signs to tie a bike up to. There are huge concrete barriers right in front of the store, but chaining a bike to those would impede the flow of customers going in/out. Seems to me that WM should put up a sign saying “Don’t shop here unless you travel in a vehicle.”

  83. So the Walmart had NO vertical structures to attach a bike to? Like street signs, light poles, handicapped parking space signs, etc… When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. You don’t strip b/c you wanted oranges and didn’t like the three reasons the person who gave you the lemons told you.

  84. @Canino: There is a guy around me who takes his horse to the store. He usually hobbles it and attaches it to a signpost, like in a handicapped space.

  85. ChuckECheese says:

    @u1itn0w2day: Your arguments are quite weak. By your reasoning, grocery carts are dangerous, and those electric carts, and annoying sales displays in the middle of aisles: Wal-Mart is a den of potential accidents. Children wear those “Wheelies–” sneakers-cum-rollerskates–to my WM. By all reports, the greatest danger with Wheelies is to the wearer, not bystanders.

    Sometimes, communities have high crime, and maybe this woman thought that the likelihood of her bicycle/only mode of transport being stolen was high. Despite keeping my bicycles locked and garaged throughout my life, I have had a lifetime total of 5 bikes stolen. According to the article, there was no bike rack outside. In many places, chaining an object to a street sign is illegal and will incur a fine and/or points on your driving record (points are assessed in some states against bicyclists). The risk of losing her bike is probably greater than any risk to shoppers in the store. She was erring on the side of caution.

    Your weak logic is exacerbated by your humorlessness. Theater is an excellent way to get one’s point across, and has been done for millenia. You remind me of the TSA, which engages in its own style of humorless, propagandizing, bullying security theater. The greeter and manager were both bullies, who didn’t have compelling reasons to demand compliance, but enforced compliance for no other reason than might makes right. I still wish Consumerist had a “bully” tag for many such posts.

    @xanax25mg: Welcome to libertarian-conservative psychology. And congratulations for slapping the histrionic label on an assertive woman–nobody’s ever done that before. In these days of rock-hard abs and granite countertops, narcissism is indeed rampant, but one has to determine what the cause and purpose of the narcissism is before deciding it’s pathological. She just wanted to protect her bike, and found a humorous, creative and vivid way of arguing her point in the lobby of one of the most humorless and banal marketplaces in the world.

    Really, if narcissistic at all, it looks like the “narcissism of small differences,” a woman being attacked for bringing a wheeled implement into a large shop full of wheeled implements. Please keep in mind that the psychological professions are dedicated to enhancing human functioning and freedom, not marginalizing and pathologizing people who chafe under petty social regulations.

  86. RabbitDinner says:

    Same deal with the racing cyclists that clog up the streets around here. They ride together in packs 2-3 bikers wide with their sunglasses and gloves. Of course if you tell them they’re holding up traffic “UGHHHH Biker’s Rights!”

  87. RabbitDinner says:

    Oh, and on a high school field trip several years ago, we were taking a picture outside on the sidewalk. A biker with an attitude came by and yelled “Excuse me!” If I weren’t with my school, I would’ve shot right back in a sarcastic tone that us clogging up the sidewalk isn’t your concern, as you’re supposed to bike on the street and obey traffic laws, not ride on the sidewalk. “Oh but it’s a busy street.” Too bad-if you’re going to be on the sidewalk with your bike, dismount and wheel it next to you.

  88. u1itn0w2day says:

    I don’t even think the Walmart greeter should have agreed to watch the bike.Once they allow that bike in the store I think Walmart beomes liable.And if the greeter did agree to keep an eye on it what is the greeter’s responsibility when the bike is being stolen while they are greeting people-doing their job.

    If this women had been a true activist like an enviormentalist protesting oil dependence I can see A protest or stunt like that to get a bike rack installed or raise the issue that many shopping centers aren’t equiped for bikes.

  89. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    The ‘complaints’ on Consumerist are starting to degenerate to ‘Ripoff Report’ level.

    I know we’re not supposed to diss the filers, but this is obviously a person who was setting up a showdown at WalMart.

    Maybe the complaints should be better evaluated before being posted.

  90. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    @RabbitDinner: Unfortunately, these cyclists give us all a bad name, and make it bad for us who ride single file and respect the rules of the road.

    Bicyclists have become militant jackasses, and wonder why everyone wants to run them over.

  91. Maybe I’m just naïve, but I often lock my bike up to itself when there are no easy alternatives. (Advantage: It only thwarts the lazy, opportunistic thief. Disadvantage: If somebody does pick it up and put in their truck, there’s no evidence of theft. My insurance probably won’t cover it.)

    The form of protest was funny, but the issue in question was lame. Only once (when I left my lock at home) did I ever bring my bike inside a store. I felt like a complete jackass the entire time. It’s inconsiderate, like rolling around the store on rollerblades.

    @dirtleg: If they offered for her to park the damn thing inside where the greeter could keep an eye on it, I would think that was being quite accommodating to her paranoia about her bike.

    They did. Putting it in the foyer with a lock on it would have been fine with me.

    [The greeter] insisted that I had to leave it in the foyer and I calmly said that I wasn’t going to leave a 600 dollar bike just sitting in the foyer and that I’d like to speak to her manager.

  92. dragonvpm says:

    @thelushie: I’m not sure how I feel about her specific actions, but as far as safety hazard goes, I call bullshit.

    An able bodied person maneuvering a bicycle through Wal-Mart is no more dangerous (or annoying) than a kid racing around the store pushing a cart as a form of entertainment, parents with double and even triple wide strollers, large people who are unable or unwilling to walk and end up using those electric carts, or for that matter people in wheel chairs.

    @Nofsdad: My guess is that it wouldn’t be have as bad as what happens when parents take in their unruly children and set them loose in the store (I’ve seen this happen way too often). At least a bike won’t be running around by itself causing destruction and mayhem because it’s parent can’t be bothered to teach it how to behave.

  93. thelushie says:

    @ChuckECheese: Actually u1it made a great point about the safety issue. It is a safety hazard that they should not have to be libel for. IF their insurance doesn’t cover it and someone does get hurt, they are still libel.

    Sometimes women are stupid and this classifies as it. What was the big protest or statement. She had a bunch of people standing around waiting for her to take the rest of her clothes off. When this is called protesting, protesting is dead!

    A week ago, I protested terrible working conditions at a local hospital. It made a difference. Things are changing and changing quickly. Taking off your clothes because you can’t bring your bike into a store doesn’t even come close to what we did.

    Oh, and those stupid heelies should be banned.

  94. thelushie says:

    @dragonvpm: I understand your point and it is a very good one. Unfortunately, in our society, a disabled person in a wheelchair isn’t quite on the same level as a person who wants to push their bike around a store. The kids running all around needs to be stopped. If the store or parent won’t do it, I typically do (with the parents glaring at me because I can control their spawn when they can’t). I have seen those dumbass double wide stollers but it really is hard to make one of those tip over and hit someone. If she wanted to see how many of those terrible walmart products were made in China, and she let go of her bike (or put it on a kickstand) it could easily tip over. If you accidentally bumped a stroller, chances are it isn’t going to even move.

    And you are preaching to the choir about unruly children. I hate kids. I am anti-child (or maybe anti-bad parent) and I think I should be able to go about my day without having to deal with them running around screaming.

  95. Maurs says:

    I wouldn’t let people bring bicycles into my store, either.

  96. MyPetFly says:

    I had an experience about a month ago with some assholes on bikes here in San Diego. They were riding like maniacs through traffic, across lanes, etc., and I went carefully around them. At the next stoplight, two of them started pounding on my truck. I got into it with one of them, and I think he got it worse than I did.

    Too bad a few jerks have have made me anti-bike.

  97. acasto says:

    @hoffmeister_hoff: Bicyclists have become militant jackasses, and wonder why everyone wants to run them over.

    What?!? I don’t ride, but for the couple of idiot bicyclists I see while driving, I see or nearly get hit by ten times as many idiot drivers. Like I said, I don’t bike, but I’m fed up with drivers and their lazy fuel addicted attitudes. Just the fact that there is people like you, who act as though someone else is to blame for their lack of control and attitudes while driving makes me want to go and get a bike just so I can see you get all upset when you’re thirty seconds later to get home and turn on American Idol.

  98. bohemian says:

    There is a very simple solution to this problem. Go to Target. Ours has this spiffy modern art looking heavy duty bike rack sunk into the concrete on the front sidewalk.

  99. u1itn0w2day says:

    @ChuckECheese: This rider was being a drama queen and NOT a true activist,protester or someone who was truely ‘victimized’.She might file a suit after the fact AFTER she had time to think about how she can justify her actions.But a political protester at that time-please.

    Most business establishments have signs for stuff like NO roller blades,bikes,shoes,SHIRTs etc-especially in summertime.There are even municipal ordinances to that affect in most areas.The business owner has the right to do business with you or not.

    Can this biker proove legal discrimination for her bike not being allowed in-like were others allowed in with their bike?

    And it still comes back to SAFETY.And the owner of the business has the right to take steps to keep their place SAFE.If I was an employee in a Walmart or any other place for that matter I would tell the kids with these wheelies NOT IN HERE just as fast as I would warn them against running or horsing around.Heck,as a customer I would ask them to stop before going to management or security.And no:asking kids to stop is not the same as punishing someone’s elses kid.The victim card is not needed here.

    SAFETY is the main issue here.And Walmart blew it as much as the biker.

  100. RabbitDinner says:

    I think most reasonable people agree-if you’re going to stand up for yourself, hats off to you, but if you just want to make a statement, and a self-serving, inane one at that, well, go away

  101. katinka says:

    Well, back to my whole thing about not having bike racks, what’s weird about places that didn’t want to get bike racks, is that half of them told me to go ahead and bring my bike inside, no problem. Fidelity, etrade, my regular local bank, and Walgreens. I didn’t even ask for that, I just asked them to get a bike rack.

  102. HIV 2 Elway says:

    @PHX602: +1

  103. hmk says:

    I think this story is amusing. C’mon we all hate Walmart, why rag on someone who did something creative to irritate Walmart? Obviously Consumerist readers would never shop at Walmart so how is this inconveniencing you? (sarcasm)

    I think everyone is just jealous they didn’t think of it first.

    really. this is funny.

  104. @RabbitDinner: Same deal with the racing cyclists that clog up the streets around here. They ride together in packs 2-3 bikers wide with their sunglasses and gloves. Of course if you tell them they’re holding up traffic “UGHHHH Biker’s Rights!”

    Really? Of all things, the sunglasses and gloves annoy you? How about their tight shorts, helmets, and reflective clothing?

    Regardless, even though the bikers in question are jackasses, the pissing match doesn’t help anything. When I rode my bike around Phoenix, this was a regular experience:

    What the driver sees:
    [Driver sees a jackass biker ahead, "hogging" the road.]
    Honk!
    Honk!
    “Get out of the road!”
    [Driver switches lanes to pass, slams accelerator in a display of displeasure.]

    What the biker sees:
    [Biker is riding as close to the right as practical, but is fully aware that he has all the rights of a slow-moving vehicle. Also notices every sign that says "Share the road."]
    Honk!
    Honk!
    “Gt t f th rd!” (message garbled by doppler effect and road noise)
    [Driver makes unnecessary lane change because he's an idiot, proceeds to demonstrate totally douchebaggery with accelerator.]

    You’re not going to get any random biker to obey the law any more than you’re going to going to get that driver who did cut you off to see the error in his ways. In the grand scheme of things, it’s just not worth the energy to worry about it.

  105. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    @acasto:
    Are you OK with cyclists:

    A. Running redlights?
    B. Riding 3 abreast and blocking traffic?
    C. Running down pedestrians on sidewalks?
    D. Generally not following the rules of the road

    You’re OK with this? I refuse to ride with cyclists who behave in this manner, and many do nowadays. Nowhere did I state this was the sole cause of invoking bad driving habits, but it doesn’t help.

    It isn’t just restricted to cyclists; runners are major egotistical asses as well, as they run against the flow in the bike only lanes and push the cyclists into the roadway. Or run on the wrong side of a sidewalk and expect pedestrians to get out of their way.

    So we unfortunately have a whole chain of indivduals who think they’re special.

  106. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    @Michael Belisle: WOW! Anyone who would ride a bike in Phoenix is a bigger man than me. The drivers there seem to hunt bikers down for sport!

  107. xanax25mg says:

    @ChuckECheese: First, I’m neither libertarian nor conservative, but that’s neither nere nor there. If you actually read the response I was replying to, that person had indicated that those that don’t agree with the OP are “humorless”. So in much the same way people that don’t agree with the OP are humorless or fuddy duddies on Walmart’s payroll I decided it was equally fair to “label” a woman who disrobes when she isn’t allowed to bring her bike into a private business histrionic and narccisstic.

    In response to your statement about how theatre is a great tool for protest, before you label the OP Rosa Parks, let’s put this in perspective. She was not disrobing to symbolize the horrible pay that leads walmart employees to not be able to afford her biking gear. She was not exposing her spandex sports bra to symbolize the constraint women’s wages are compared to men. No, she was taking off her clothes because Walmart would not provide personal security for her “$600 bike”. Not exactly Che Guevara here.

  108. bria says:

    People on Consumerist are always belittling the OP for having a stick up their ass or overreacting…

    Pot, meet kettle.

  109. MorrisseyTheCat says:

    If Morrissey isn’t allowed in Wal-Mart, then neither should a bike. Whatever happened to SUGGESTING they get a bike rack before making attention seeking displays? …Or calling in advance to see if they have one (I mean if it is as important to her as she claims)?

    When did this society get SO entitled that Wal-Mart owes them a bike rack???? Mozzer wants a free cat spa right outside the entrance while Mommy shops, since he can’t come in…
    Ditto to the commenter who said she can park it by the $30k suv, lol.

  110. TampaShooters says:

    It’s called private property for a reason. If you don’t like the policies or procedures, you are free to move on… Bike racks are not a mandatory item that business are required to have. I am certain it was her time of the month, because if it was her local Wal-Mart, she knew their was no rack outside. She was just throwing a tantrum.

  111. RabbitDinner says:

    @Michael Belisle: OK, I could’ve spent more time on detail. The tight shorts are downright disgusting sometimes. But fingerless gloves really bother me for some reason. Whatever, I enjoy my pissing contests with other drivers enough that I just ignore the wannabe Lance Armstrongs. But nothing irks me more than biking on the sidewalk, and while I politely ask them to move to the street if they don’t mow me down. I refuse to make room for them. If they tell me I’m in the way, which has happened on a few occasions, I can get very sarcastic. If I’m in the way, I’ll move for pedestrians, not for cyclists who refuse to dismount on the sidewalks. But I find solace in the fact that they’ll most likely be paying with their prostrates. Call it karma.

  112. bria says:

    @MorrisseyTheCat:
    People can’t jimmy the car lock system as easily as they can a bike lock. Cars are safer in parking lots than bikes.

  113. Greasy Thumb Guzik says:

    @bohemian:
    Those Target bikes racks are total crap!
    They look a little like the Greek letter phi & are held down by 3 bolts in the concrete.
    Just about Target around Chicago has them & every rack is loose & could be pulled out with really strong push from a small car.

  114. JeffM says:

    Why the fuck was someone this Granola-ey at WAL*MART anyway?

  115. baristabrawl says:

    @MikeToole: I think she has a valid point…and I’m gay, so i don’t care to see that…

    Good for you sports bra girl! KICKASS!

    But again I say, “If you go to Wal-Mart, then your poor judgement voids any complaint that you could possibly make.”

  116. Pithlit says:

    @hmk: I don’t know. I’m a cyclist and I loathe Wal Mart. And I think she came off like an entitled, elitist twit. Maybe it was the part where she dissed the lady for making a low wage. I also think no bikes in a store is a perfectly reasonable policy.

  117. RabbitDinner says:

    I understand a quick stop at a convenience store or picking something small up, but how do you shop at WalMart while wheeling a bike around?

  118. eskimo81 says:

    As shitty as it is for Walmart to not have a bike rack out front, I wouldn’t let someone bring a bicycle into my store either (and I don’t even sell bikes).

    The only mistake that I see the manager making, is that she entertained an argument with a lady who was clearly not going to accept any argument for at least 5 points made back and forth (only counting the conversation with the manager).

    I would have ended the conversation long before it got to the point of this lady stripping in the store. When people get as determined as this lady clearly was, it’s better to not try and reason with them, and simply tell them the rule, and that if they don’t like it, they can shop elsewhere.

  119. MorrisseyTheCat says:

    @bria: I still don’t understand how that is the problem of every business…The world doesn’t owe her a bike rack, and businesses are not responsible for personal property left outside (bike/car/etc). Wanna play the environment card? Walk. Problem solved.

  120. katinka says:

    I started wondering if any walmart has a bike rack, as with big corporations, it seems like the local store management has very little control over what really happens.

    While I think this is a funny story, clearly dealing with the local store is not very helpful, because well, it is wal-mart. Here’s one link about a person who spent 6 months trying to get walmart to get a bike rack installed:

    [www.centrebike.org]

    I actually think is more a zoning issue. Local councils can clearly make bike racks part of the deal of opening a new development or store, and some of them are. The town I live in is a “designated transit village” but it is just now occuring to them that bike facilities might be helpful when dropping 2000 new people/bikers in the center of town.

  121. MorrisseyTheCat says:

    …our taxes pay for things like bike racks in our town. It wouldn’t occur to me to expect a business to have one as a “requirement.” Just like anything else, someone makes money and someone else feels they should take it for whatever they want. Yes, it would be a nice service, but the entitlement factor here cancels out any expectation of empathy.

  122. ChuckECheese says:

    @thelushie: It’s unlikely WM would incur any responsibility in the miniscule-probability event that somebody’s baby would get tangled in the spokes. WM has signs that disavow responsibility for personal property damage and loss. If the woman thought that WM would replace her bicycle had it been stolen in their store, she might have left it outside.

    An important point that is not addressed in her post: It appears that she did not have a lock with her. Certainly she could have locked it in the entryway, to a gumball machine selling stickers of la Guadalupana, perhaps, thereby providing greater protection. Had she had a lock, certainly she would have avoided this trouble by chaining it up.

    @Michael Belisle: Knowing you lived in the Phoenix area, I’d say you were naive and lucky. Bicycle thefts were a constant problem at ASU and all over the Phoenix metro. My garage was broken into one time, and another time somebody sawed my U-lock apart to get another bike.

    @u1itn0w2day: There are all levels of protest and reasons for protesting. Her battle methods were well chosen for the situation. I never brought up the notion of civil rights violations, and I have no opinion. I do think it’s reasonable for a person to bring their bike into a megamart in the absence of bike racks. WM’s attitude is overly controlling, anal-retentive, just mean. We don’t need more of that in the world; we’re all too stressed out already.

    It’s far too easy to pull out the “safety” argument, and I don’t think her bicycle poses any safety threat. I can argue for “safety” or “think of the children!” every time somebody does something I don’t like, or any time I don’t want to have to respectfully consider somebody else’s point of view. It’s crying wolf. Americans don’t really care about safety anyway. We have the TSA doing its weird thing, but then we have a fairly steady stream of school shootings wherein we always react as if we had no idea such a thing could happen. Just imagine what a k-hole we’d be in if those armed teenagers were armed terrorists.

    @thelushie: It must be hot and making people cranky, because there’s a lot of misogyny on Consumerist today, viz. your comment:

    Sometimes women are stupid and this classifies as it. What was the big protest or statement. She had a bunch of people standing around waiting for her to take the rest of her clothes off.

    Sounds to me like she found an effective means of making her point, one that probably amused and encouraged many people that day–the opposite of stupid. Unlike yourself, given the choice between dour WM matrons and bicycle-toned women pulling off sweaty lycra, I’ll take the chicks.

  123. MorrisseyTheCat says:

    High end merchants like Wal-Mart keeps prices low by buying all sorts of amenities like bike racks, skate board racks, ski racks for the cross-country skiers who want to ski over…you name it…it’s to be expected… @@
    Personally, I can’t shop without coffee, so that better be there next time or crowds will gather!

  124. bvita says:

    Who let this twit out without a leash?

    I’m no fan of Walmart but I have to side with them on this one. Stores and businesses have rules. If you don’t want to abide by them, don’t patronize them.

    Walmart has a number of very good reasons for not allowing the bike into the store. The stated reason is, by far the weakest.

    The biggest concern to Walmart would be that of liability. If Little Johnny was injured by the bicycle in any way (bumped into by it, fell on him, fingers caught in spokes, run over by it, etc), it would be Walmart that got sued, not Twitlady.

    On the other hand, if Twitlady’s bike was damaged in the store, say, by an errant shopping cart, knocked over by Litle Johnny or in any other way, she’d be suing Walmart for compensation.

    The greeter MUST NOT offer to watch the bike. In doing so Walmart would be accepting liability for it and any damanges that she claimed happened to it while in their possession.

    As a manager I would have explained the policy and, when she started her striptease, called for the police to remove her. This person is probably unstable enough to make claims that she was somehow assaulted while she was in her state of disrobe.

    Since almost every square foot of the average Walmart is under video surveillance, I’m sure that her making an ass of herself on the sales floor will make for amusing viewing at the Christmas party. Anyone know if it made it to Youtube yet?

  125. RTFA Please.

    She’s been allowed to bring it in before

    the reason? nowhere to chain it up. There’s no bike rack outside.

  126. bria says:

    @MorrisseyTheCat:
    That’s not the point I was making. It’s just that people are completely overreacting and becoming very upset at this story when oftentimes, posters criticize the OP for overreacting and being ridiculous. I have no opinion on that question, I was just stating facts.

  127. thelushie says:

    @ChuckECheese: Considering I am a woman, I can call this woman’s actions stupid. It is grandstanding. And no, no one really cared what she was disagreeing with, they wanted her to disrobe. You would probably be gawking too and clueless about what was going on as long as a chick was getting undressed right??
    To start taking your clothes off because a store will not let you bring your bike in and calling it a protest? She needs to do those of us who actually do protest injustice and oppression a favor, and stop being hysterical about a minor inconvenience in her day. This was not injustice, it was not oppression, she just didn’t get what she wanted. Well,, waaaahhhhhhh. Poor baby. Life goes on.

    Now, if she would have posted on that board about maybe getting bicycle racks in front of all WMs, I would be right behind her. That is a great idea.

  128. FranSeaLou says:

    Re: the safety issue.

    Let’s imagine the WM shopper walked the four miles to WM. While shopping, she spots a nice, made-in-China bike and thinks to herself, “The four mile return trip might be more fun on a bike.” So, she grabs the bike and….whoa… How to get it to the checkstands? It is obviously very dangerous (according to some of the commenters here) to walk through a retail store with a bike.

    The WM manager gave an idiotic reason for keeping the customer from bringing in her bike. Commenters here are giving some other idiotic reasons she shouldn’t bring in her bike. The fact is, WM can tell her not to bring it in and they have every right. The manager was a fool to attempt to engage the shopper. She should have just said no, rather than giving a BS reason. I give the shopper points for a creative response to a stupid manager.

  129. thelushie says:

    And if she didn’t have a lock with her for her $600 bike, that is her own fault.

  130. donkeyjote says:

    First, she was not naked by any means. Bike shorts and Sports bra for pete’s sake.

    Second, she was responding to a stupid reason in kind. All the manager had to say “It’s not allowed/Against our policy/Insurance reasons” you know, standard legit legalese, instead of making up a reason, then stripping would have not made sense.

    Also, this thread is useless without pics.

  131. xanax25mg says:

    @ChuckECheese: First, I’m neither a libertarian nor a conservative, but for someone decrying applying labels to people we don’t know you sure slapped two on me right there. But nevertheless, I don’t think you actually read the post I was responding to. That person commented that those that disagree with the OP are “humorless”. So in much the same way posters like that are “labeling’ those that disagree with the OP as being humorless fuddy duddies I can also look at the OP’s behavior of stripping because they couldn’t bring their bike into a store as both narcissistic (beacuse their needs are more important than the store) and histrionic (to complain about a perceived injustice I will make a public spectacle of myself).

    Second you stated the OP was using theatre, a time honored tradition of activism. Well before we start calling her Rosa Parks, let’s look at the objective facts. She was not taking off her clothes to symbolically demonstrate the the low wages walmart pays it’s workers and can’t afford her Nike brand biking suit; nor was she showing off her sports bra to symbolize the restraint women experience on their wages compared to men. No, she was taking off her clothes because Walmart wouldn’t provide security for her $600 (her words, not mine) bicycle. Not exactly Che Geuvara here.

  132. Consumerist-Moderator-Roz says:

    Folks, remember our comment code! Post *helpful comments* if you disagree with the consumer’s action; calling them stupid (or even more insulting names than that) is never appropriate. If you want to post here, post in accordance with our rules.

  133. donkeyjote says:

    @thelushie:
    @thelushie:
    You’re the only one calling it a protest, and she did have a lock with her.

  134. xkevin108x says:

    Stuff like this (and the VCDL) is why I love living in VA.

  135. rinse says:

    It’s interesting how most of the readers on The Consumerist recognize how asinine her behavior was, but most of the readers of the bike forum where she posted the story thinks she’s absolutely awesome.

  136. Spartan1308™ says:

    @HIV 2 Elway Resurrected: Make it +2.

  137. ThomFabian says:

    @painfullyblunt:
    Actually not entirely true

    So I grudgingly got on my bike and made the 4 mile ride on some pretty dangerous roads only to find that they have no form of bike rack whatsoever. That’s typical for this area so I’ve become used to just taking my bike into stores…in fact I usually use the basket on the back as a shopping cart.

    She is used to other stores allowing her to take her bike in. WalMart said no, which is entirely in their rights, and shouldn’t have had any need to explain the reasoning beyond expressing their policy. The manager mishandled that part, but in the end it doesn’t matter. Private property, private rules.

  138. ThomFabian says:

    Oops, I’m wrong.

    Its confusing though since she said in the first paragraph she just discovered there was no bike rack, and in the next she said she had taken the bike in before.

    Sorry, for the incorrect statement

  139. thelushie says:

    @donkeyjote: And what would you call stripping your clothes because you are not getting your way? I would call it grandstanding, but that’s just me… Making a statement? Proving a point? Protesting?

    Anway this is a post that she made on page 4 of the thread, post #99

    “nah, i don’t not like the post. actually i kind of agree. in retrospect i can think if a couple better ways to have handled the situation but i was kind of in the heat of the moment. some people get angry and yell, i get angry and…take of my clothes? Well at least I wasn’t doing both. I certainly hope i didn’t do any lasting harm to the cycling community…i apologize in advance if you’re ever asked by a passerby to strip… “

  140. donkeyjote says:

    @thelushie: I call it following along with their bullshit. It’s not like they said “You can’t bring your bike in because I hate it’s paintjob” and whoops, there go her clothes.

  141. Jesse says:

    What if the rider brought their receipt from the bike store along?

    Plus it should be pretty easy to discern a cheap POS Wal-Mart bike from a high quality one.

  142. ldavis480 says:

    Wow, if that’s her picture in the article I’d just like to say:

    You cannot bring your bike into my house…

    ;-)

  143. CapitalC says:

    Hey, I thought the new comment rules were supposed to discourage people from being pinheads and going off about the person in the story being wrong wrong wonr. Apparently MikeTool and gang didn’t read them.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable for her to not want to leave her bike locked up outside, just as I always take my laptop in stores with me instead of leaving it locked in my car.

    Would SprawlMart do the same to someone with an expensive baby stroller?

  144. CapitalC says:

    < smacks self for being a bad typisc >

    -wonr
    +wrong

  145. btdown says:

    This lady is crazy. It has never ever crossed my mind to bring my bike into any establishment (except the bike shop). if there’s no bike rank, I’ll either lock it up to ..something, or just put the u-lock on. If it gets stolen, it’s my fault for not planning properly.

    Sorry lady, you’re not special and your bike belongs outside with everyone elses.

  146. Communist Pope says:

    Isn’t it supposed to be “t*ts or GTFO,” not “t*ts and GTFO?” Either way, kudos to the OP for taking Walmart’s spurious logic to town.

  147. ReachHigher, thanks for the chuckle. I’ll be impressed if the point you were trying to make was even understood by the Wal*mart employee. As if the quality of bikes in the store is even remotely relative to the one you were probably bringing with you. I wouldn’t be very comfortable leaving a very nice bike outside Wal*mart either given how easy they can be to steal. I suppose I wouldn’t have even brought my bike to Wal*mart, though.

  148. ironchef says:

    bike $600
    bike lock $15
    Seeing whinny naked people at walmart making idiots of themselves…priceless.

  149. mlhradio says:

    >>I think most reasonable people agree-if you’re going to stand up for yourself, hats off to you, but if you just want to make a statement, and a self-serving, inane one at that, well, go away<<

    Yeah, that pretty much sums up my opinion. Sounds like the ‘customer’ was more interesting in creating a scene than actually righting some imaginary wrong. (Sort of reminds me of jerks who refuse to show ID when presenting a credit card at the register for no other reason than to make a point – what morons.) These sorts of idiots give consumer advocates a bad name.

    The all the bikebabies that sputter and moan, “But there was no bike rack!” Irrelevant – you can *always* find something to chain your bike to. When I was using a bike, I would chain it to posts, to trees, to cart corrals, to posts, to signs, to cement blocks — whatever there was around. I’ve never gone anywhere where there wasn’t someplace to chain up my bike within a hundred paces of where I wanted to go. Ever.

    And to all the bikebabies that shrilly complain, “But the reason the manager gave was illogical and lame!” Also totally irrelevant. Walmart does not have to give a logical reason for not bringing a bike into the store. For that matter, they do not have to give any reason AT ALL. Their store, their policy. End of discussion. If you don’t like it, go elsewhere.

    I know that most bikers are just normal people, quite nice and reasonable like everyone else. But it is dramaqueen jackasses like this woman who give all other bikers a bad name. Already a majority of Americans despise bikers with a loathing passion due to the activities of a small handful of lawbreaking asses (like the critical mass fcukoffs in San Francisco) – one more moron throwing a hissy fit doesn’t help.

  150. SupritiPotitus says:

    If your car could be picked up and carried away then a lot of you would have
    a different attitude. A store should provide a safe, secure place to lock a
    bike.

    JM

  151. cwlodarczyk says:

    Huh. I see that blaming the consumer is back in fashion here. I hope I never have to deal with you pricks in real life.

    Bravo to the lady in the article for standing up for what she believes in – we need a LOT more like her.

  152. Looks like a Bay Area resident just moved to Virginia.

  153. SigmundTheSeaMonster says:

    I RTFA. I applaud her. She made her point valid: This particular (codgy) grandma (likely making minimum wage) blocked her from protecting her transport. Since Walmart did not make an accommodation for her (or any other consumer) bike to be secure (they do provide a parking lot for cars), and stood behind that “they sell bikes here and they would not allow hers inside”, thus she mildy challenged their “unknown” policy and she removed her bike clothes (well, not pants) as “not to confuse them if she should also bring that inside as well”. She made a point.
    Walmart isn’t green-friendly. Walmart does not accommodate consumers that don’t drive but ride their bicycles.

  154. waffles says:

    Claiming safety is bullshit. Yes, all the reasons are valid. But what’s the difference in bringing in your own bike and wheeling it around the store and wheeling the bike you’re going to buy around the store?

    If anything, having your own bike is safe. You’re probably more familiar with how it rolls.

  155. waza says:

    if everybody with a bike were bringing it in wal-marts, it would be hell in there … there could be sometimes 2, 3 or maybe up to 4 people with bikes in the store

    (yes i totally judge people purchasing at wal-mart, because i think they don’t care for the planet, so they don’t ride bikes… and most of them are fat anyway, so they don’t ride bikes either)

  156. rkwadd says:

    ALERT THE MEDIA….Wal-mart greeters do stupid stuff. What does this have to do with Wal-mart policy? Why does this make the company a douche rather than just the greeter? I had a waiter who was terribly rude to me yesterday, please crucify Chili’s.

  157. jasonof2000 says:

    I’m sorry but she is an idiot. My local grocery store does not have a bike rack but me and my wife have been riding our bikes to get groceries for a couple months now, we just lock our bikes to the rails by the entrance ramp.

  158. FrankReality says:

    Hooray katinka! Asking for a bike rack is a good thing. If management gets enough comments, maybe they’ll put one in.

  159. Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon. says:

    So….what was she going to do with the bike once she got it inside the store? Granted, the manager’s explanation was BS, but I don’t really see what right she has to bring the bicycle in the store if they told her not to. No bike rack? Lock it to a light-pole or go over to the outdoor section and lock it to the chain-link fence.

    Sheesh..next thing you know I won’t be able to bring my chain-saw into Denny’s with me.

  160. anawolken says:

    Wouldn’t shop there in first place.

  161. tomcatv1 says:

    One day a bike rider tried to bring his bike into my neighborhood Korean deli. This place has just about enough room of a couple of customers and produce. “Hey dude I forgot my lock” was his only comment. Reminded me of the time a women insisted on bringing her dog into the place, then the mutt proceeded to lift it’s leg and was about the pee on some produce on one of the lower shelves. Luckily I was able to yell quick enough and loud enough to startle the mutt out of its’ desire to pee on the bread. The point is that there are an lot of people out there where the world just revolves around them. They should be able to do anything they want whether it’s Walmart or a local Korean deli. The manager should have let her strip than called the cops.

  162. Dabigkid says:

    So she brought in her bike AND her bitchy attitude! I wonder which weighs more?

  163. waffles says:

    @waza: What will happen when a lot of people decide to all go buy a bike at the same time?

  164. dragonfire1481 says:

    I have never had need to take my bike into a store as I can usually find a lamppost/stop sign/big tree to lock it up to.

    I love cycling but the roads are dangerous if you are on a bike so I try to stick with the sidewalk where I can (yes I know it’s illegal in most places but I’d rather pay a ticket then end up dead). When I am on the road, I pay attention and I am very careful.

    It’s a shame other cyclists are yahoos that piss drivers off so much they make it hard for those like me who actually try to be safe.

  165. JohnMc says:

    Cute, very cute. This is the kind of counter intellectual terrorism I like to see fostered on stupid people. WalMart — Here’s your sign!!

    To be fair, How is it incumbent on WalMart to protect someone else’s property? If the bike was stolen while in their care would she not demand recompense? If that is the case then why should any retailer take the risk on themselves to do so? That should have been the managers proper answer.

    Just asking.

  166. u1itn0w2day says:

    @waffles: claiming safety isn’t crap.For starters who said walking around with a store bike is safe or should even be allowed.In many stores if you can’t put the merchandise in a cart or carry it you have to get it in their loading area.

    And all this stuff about I know my bike and how to walk is a load too.Sorta like everybody else’s crap stinks but their own.Any bike is a hazard.Why should the walking customer constantly have to be aware of the person walking a bike.

    It all goes back to the potential for an ACCIDENT and Walmart or any other retailer has a responsibility to make sure their customers are safe anyway possible.Even stores like Home Depot cut off entire aisles if they are using a forklift at just one end.And by the way Home Depot has had at least one or two customer FATALITIES through no fault of the customer.

    Too many things can happen.JUST ONE example could be someone accidently bumping into it while the biker is pulling something off the shelf.What if it fell on someone’s foot wearing open toe sandals-who’s responsible-the customer for not wearing safety shoes,the biker for not holding their bike or the store for letting the bike in in the first place.Why do you think many stores have gone to plastic shopping carts with rounded edges or have rubber or plastic around the edges.

    @waza: brought up another good point.If too many bikes are in the store at once that’s even greater hazard.People go to stores expecting to deal with other people and/or shopping carts.NOT things like bikes.It’s an un-necessary variable that could lead to an accident which can be easily prevented.NO BIKES!

  167. chenry says:

    Oooooookay. I think someone might be a little high strung.

  168. fluf says:

    Damn crazy cyclists making us decent cyclist look like

    crazy green turds.

    I only have a U lock on my 600$ bike to tie it up so I can’t just lock it anywhere. But I always find a way to lock it, bike rack or not. Use your imagination. And if you are afraid of getting your expensive bike stolen get an el cheapo bike to do errands.

  169. Another Childish poster who things they are better than others. Grow up.

  170. Televiper says:

    She couldn’t think of another place to buy CD-Rs? Big time activist until it inconveniences her I guess.

  171. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    This is probably a hoax post.

    How about a store number / location more specific than just VA?

  172. synergy says:

    @CMU_Bueller: Ditto. My husband and I have chained our bikes to any pole that’s concreted in and too tall to haul a bike out of. While I get her point, she also seems to have gone out of her way to make it.

  173. synergy says:

    Oh and nowhere in our city seems to have bike racks. Rarely. If we see one we nearly faint from shock.

  174. dweebster says:

    @acasto: We are all becoming more and more stressed-out idiots, no matter WHAT our modes of transportation. It’s everyman for him/her self in these wonderful US of A’s and any self-obsessive prick can lease a BMW or buy a bike and create havoc with society.

    I gotta side with Walmart on this one (though they are still the devil incarnate). Huge honking baby carriages filling the aisles are obnoxious enough, having to clean up tiremarks from bicycles strolling all over the building would be another.

    And, what would have happened if the bike fell on a kid or scraped someone? Wally World’s insurance would be liable for letting her in, and it’ll be another excuse to make their workers work even LONGER off the clock than they already do….

  175. coren says:

    @hoffmeister_hoff: Of course, all cyclists/runners do this, and all drivers of cars are saintly when they’re traveling…

  176. coren says:

    I explained to here there was nowhere outside to lock it up and that I had brought it into that particular store with no problem.

    From the article. Go figure. She acts like she should be able to do it because she has before.

  177. dweebster says:

    On second thought – if Walmart are half the pricks that “Best” Buy are – they would be “receipt checking” at the door, and the poor braindead pseudo-cop might be forced to shoot her for trying to take anything out of the store without exposing her receipt…

    (This gives me an excellent idea – if only “Best” Buy sold clothing…)

  178. dweebster says:

    @coren: Yeah geez… expecting consistency from Walmart… How maddening…

  179. Zatnikitelman says:

    Did she ever say that she was going to lug it around the store with her?
    The greeter stopped here AT the foyer. Now there is a HUGE difference between placing the bike lock or not in the foyer versus placing it just 5 feet away INSIDE the STORE. Thieves aren’t likely to steal a bike that someone places in a busy area with walmart employees wandering all about. Bike in a foyer is more stealable just because of its location. walmart’s the jerks here. They did not provide adequate facilities for securing a person’s mode of transportation like they do with cars. They have a whole parking lot for them! What did they have for bikes? NOTHING! NADDA! ZIP!

  180. AgentTuttle says:

    I’m surprised so many people are bashing this lady. She’s my new hero! Fighting irrationality with irrationality. Who cares if she doesn’t have a lock, or they don’t have a rack. They were being obtuse.

  181. ChuckECheese says:

    @xanax25mg: Theater happens for all sorts of reasons, but primarily to amuse and instruct. Her cause is sufficient to protest, and I don’t want to limit theater or protest to only the loftiest goals. Wal-Mart does not want to start telling people that they can refuse service to anyone for any reason, because that will cause their image to plummet. It’s also not fair to extrapolate this the OP’s story into any other circumstance, such as bringing a bike into a restaurant, or bringing a dog into a restaurant, because it is not the same thing.

    Our societieez is going through some changes. People are becoming relatively poorer. More people will be ditching their cars and riding bikes and lawn mowers and worse. People might even start carpooling and walking. Businesses and employers may profit by accommodating such events and people, not by turning them away at the door. In any case, there are changes afoot and that means we will need to embrace new ways of doing things.

    It’s an odd philosophy that you (and others) have that says that if you own something, or you are the boss of something, that you exert absolute and final control over it, and anybody who must interact with it. It’s like franchising authoritarianism. Americans in particular have forgotten this, but businesses exist for the good of the public and not just the business.

    Businesses don’t exist solely for their own pleasure and profit; they have obligations to individuals and society. Societies are groups of interacting people and institutions that rely on one another. Sometimes their needs and means differ, and for the sake of civility, humanity and good business practices, we can accommodate people with nonstandard requests. If things get to the point where we exist only to work for and interact with businesses strictly on their terms, well then, I’d say we’ve returned to feudalism.

    This has been an interesting thread. It shows how anxious, reactive and negative many people are, responding to a benign event as if it were a threat, and attacking and taunting a woman who did something a bit unusual. People here have really dumped on this woman, calling her all sorts of names and ascribing very negative motives to her simple act. It suggests that people aren’t really willing or able to identify the true sources of their discontent. If the OP is narcissistic, then I’d say that everybody else is engaging in splitting and projection.

  182. donkeyjote says:

    @u1itn0w2day: You’re comparing a FORKLIFT, A MULTITON DIESEL ENGINE POWERED MACHINE to someone with a bike? Lawlz.

    Just to be clear. Lawlz.

    Also, what’s the difference of a shopping cart, full or not, to a bike? Or in Home Depot’s case, a flat bed cart or a railed cart, most often over loaded with 10ft wooden beams or entire doors, to a small bike?

    Any bike is a hazard.Why should the walking customer constantly have to be aware of the person walking a bike.

    Too many things can happen.JUST ONE example could be someone accidently bumping into it while the biker is pulling something off the shelf.What if it fell on someone’s foot wearing open toe sandals-who’s responsible-the customer for not wearing safety shoes,the biker for not holding their bike or the store for letting the bike in in the first place.Why do you think many stores have gone to plastic shopping carts with rounded edges or have rubber or plastic around the edges.

    Shouldn’t people be walking around aware of things anyway? Like bigger, wider shopping carts, which most often weigh MORE then bikes? Or like baby strollers or carriages?
    Don’t people bump into said carriages and strollers and carts anyway?

    And a bike falling on their open toe sandals? Ha, so nothing has ever fallen from their hands or shelf? Would close toe sandals count as “”safety shoes””? What if a shopping cart falls on their open toes?

    brought up another good point.If too many bikes are in the store at once that’s even greater hazard.People go to stores expecting to deal with other people and/or shopping carts.NOT things like bikes.It’s an un-necessary variable that could lead to an accident which can be easily prevented.NO BIKES!

    People who can’t deal with such a small “”variable” should not be out in public, should not be out driving, and should just be shot.

    @dweebster:

    having to clean up tiremarks from bicycles strolling all over the building would be another.

    FINALLY. A sensible reason (Though, then again, black sole sneakers should be banned then >_>)

  183. Canino says:

    She makes it sound like there wasn’t a place within 1000 yards to lock a bike. This Walmart apparently sits in the middle of a field with nothing around it and not one single thing on the outside of it except asphalt for cars.

    Hey lady, here are a couple of options for you:

    1. If the store has a garden center, lock it to the chain link fence.

    2. EVERY Walmart store has several cart returns in the parking lot. You know, those steel pipe things that are bolted to the ground and are usually empty because lazy fatties don’t want to walk 20 feet to put their carts there? Here’s an idea…now work with me here and visualize it…you could lock your bike to the side of the cart return! Wow!

  184. sam-i-am says:

    Is this a new policy? I take my bike into the entrance area of my local Wal*mart all the time and ask the greeter to keep an eye on it. While not terribly intelligent, those greeters are supposedly stronger than the average human, if you know what I mean.

  185. u1itn0w2day says:

    @donkeyjote: …forklifts…No donkey,I’m trying to show that other retailers besides Walmart have and had SAFETY issues & do things with safety in mind.

    And now your comparing flat bed carts with 10ft of wood from a Home Depot which you won’t find in your typical Walmart aisle which is frequently layed out like a supermarket.And for that matter if you notice Home Depot always puts stuff like lumber on one side of the building with a single OUT OF THE WAY cash register nearby.And I do worry about someone pushing around lumber like that but there is much more space in a wharehouse setting as comparted to a supermarket setting.

    And you seemed to have missed the point of the open toe question which is liability.The store would probably get sued for even allowing bikes along with an injury which is why they should be banning them.

    As far as the shopping cart on 4 wheels tipping or falling on someone those chances are far less than a 2 wheel bike which is intended/designed to be continuously balanced by the rider when moving.

    And anyone who has dealt with the public in a public setting knows that YOU ie the business has to take the initative to be safe. If for no other motivation but liability.And the reason most businesses are aware of liability is that someone has gotten hurt and sued for the very thing they are trying to prevent.

  186. Altdotweb says:

    Who wears a jersey to bike to a ghetto Walmart?

  187. f3rg says:

    I have a $3,500 bike. Guess what? I don’t ride it to the store to do shopping.

    Check Craigslist for a $30 beater and ride that instead, stupid girl.

  188. doctor_cos wants you to remain calm says:

    @nealb: Look up your local/state statutes. That is illegal in many states.
    @anthonyhasp: Unless you have some direct personal knowledge of this incident, your post is entirely uncalled for.

    Have we found something Consumerist posters hate more than wally world?

  189. boxjockey68 says:

    Ya know….as much as I don’t like walmart, and I don’t like walmart, I have to say that taking one’s clothing off to make a point seems a bit over the top. I personally see the point she was trying to make, BUT I think she could have handled it differently. Like if it’s important to you, simply take your business elsewhere.

  190. battra92 says:

    @PHX602: A self-absorbed melodramatic bike asshole. What a surprise.

    Exactly. It also annoys the crap out of me that all these loonies think they can go into their local Walmart* and make a total ass of themselves and expect praise on the internet.

    I notice how she’s sure to preface it with the stock idiot quote “So I generally choose not to patronize walmart for several moral reasons…” Yeah, whatever. She’s a self absorbed drama queen and this is no way to treat Walmart* employees because she couldn’t lock up her overpriced bike elsewhere to a carriage return or whatever.

    She then could have POLITELY suggested to the manager that there is no bike rack and that it might be a good idea to have one.

    @nsv: “You guys are all just ticked off because you missed the show. “

    Eh, not really. Most cycling girls I’ve known are too thin for my taste. ;)

    Seriously Walmart* is 100% in the right here. It’s also kind of weird getting used to typing Walmart* instead of Wal*Mart.

  191. captadam says:

    @nealb: Sorry, but bicycles can take up as much of the lane as they need to feel safe. Granted, I stay as far right as I can so that cars can pass me, but if I feel I need the lane to get around parked cars or other obstructions, I don’t feel bad about taking it.

  192. mavrick67 says:

    If you have $600 to spend on a bike, why are you shopping at Walmart?

  193. harvey_birdman_attorney_at_law says:

    The problem isn’t that she stripped down to her bra, it’s that she forgot the #1 rule, Tits or GTFO. Fortunately wal-mart’s policy showed her the door in a timely fashion.

  194. Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg says:

    @ChuckECheese:

    This has been an interesting thread. It shows how anxious, reactive and negative many people are, responding to a benign event as if it were a threat, and attacking and taunting a woman who did something a bit unusual. People here have really dumped on this woman, calling her all sorts of names and ascribing very negative motives to her simple act. It suggests that people aren’t really willing or able to identify the true sources of their discontent….

    Since you don’t have one next to your name:

    One quibble- I think the hostility toward the woman is just another symptom of the authoritarianism you mention in the first paragraph. Hostility towards anyone who doesn’t conform

  195. RabbitDinner says:

    Righteous vs. self-righteous. As other posters have more eloquently said, having patronized the store with her bike she may have been confused, but her “protest” falls to the level of histrionic. And I’m sure Wal*Mart is happy she stepped down from her ped(est)al to shop there, and her attention-seeking, elitist behavior should absolutely be welcome with open arms.

  196. Mr. Guy says:

    attention bike lady: i see what you did there. and frankly, i kind of like it… but at the same time, just chain your bike up outside and quit being an asshole.

  197. polyeaster says:

    lady in the picture is not wearing her helmet correctly:)

  198. mariospants says:

    If you read the story, it is a bit irrational as she states that “an adult pushing a bike” (is better than) a “child pushing a shopping cart”. Well, possibly, but what you’re doing here is opening a huge can of worms because you can’t just leave your bike in the aisle like you can a shopping cart (even with a kick stand, which no self-respecting spandex-clad biker would ever have). Imagine a store full of bikes cluttering the aisles. Not to speak of the potential for grease from her chain getting all over their merchandise.

    She should have locked the bike to the shopping cart dispenser or better yet, the old lady.

  199. Jabberkaty says:

    C’mon, it’s funny! After all the crazy crap Wally World does someone flings crazy crap back at them – and she uses semi-nudity to do so. Huzzah!

    We shouldn’t be arguing about how valid her argument was, we should be finding more ways to employ nudity to get what we want.

  200. @dtracker: “I don’t think the law is correct so I’m not going to follow it” does not cut it.

    You’re on a bike, you obey the traffic laws, period. If you put me in danger or anyone else, I will yell, honk, and generally be an asshole to you.

    I can, and will, and have in the past, open my door on you if I’m sitting at a stoplight and you come zipping between me and another row of cars.

    My seatbelt was stuck in the door, you know? And what you were doing was illegal, so you lose.

  201. Khaotix says:

    My $1200 road bike is my primary mode of transportation during the summer. I’ve never tried to bring it into a store … nor have I seen people pull that stunt in Boston, which has a fairly large biking population.

  202. cerbie says:

    @mavrick67: …to have $600 to buy a bike, maintain it, and still have money for everything else? I’m not a bike rider, but just not shopping at Walmart would halve the amount that I can save each month (which typically has to end up going into my car after a few months of that).

    If I were considering become an elitism bike rider :D, I’d be saving, and get a nice bike that could be further modded for better riding. Not paying as much for car maintenance (assuming she also has a car), and not paying as much for gasoline, would likely offset the cost of the bike rather quickly. I’m sure the side effects of getting a decent workout as you travel has economic benefits, too.

    I do think this is a case where a store should be able to dictate what happens, and she went overboard. OTOH, Walmart’s reasoning was idiotic. If you don’t have a real reason, don’t make one up!

    @Jabberkaty: she wasn’t nude. Not that it’s a bad idea, just that it’s not what happened.

  203. jessemoya says:

    That. Is. AWESOME.

    I want to buy this woman a beer!

  204. cf27 says:

    @nealb: Um, by law, they do have as much right to the road as everybody else. Sure, they’re inconvenient for car drivers, but so are: oversized vehicles, dump trucks, school buses, tractors, old men in hats driving buicks, etc….. There is no right to drive at the speed limit.

  205. captadam says:

    @RamV10: If you put me in danger or anyone else, I will yell, honk, and generally be an asshole to you.

    Sooo … if you put somebody in danger, you will honk (which is quite dangerous, as it can easily make a bicyclist wreck) or open a door in a cyclist’s path.

    Guess you’re right … you’re an asshole. Better keep the road rage in check … it’s good for the heart.

  206. captadam says:

    @RamV10: Oooh, wait … I see why bicyclists make you pissy … RamV10 … you’re one of those guys who identifies with pickup trucks, seeing them as a substitute for, well, you know–something you don’t have. Carry on.

  207. snoop-blog says:

    I don’t get it. So you got a $600 bike, lock it up! You don’t see me bitching about leaving me $15,000 car in the parking lot, why, because I lock it up. Although, I would like to see more girls in sports bras walking around the store.

  208. MeOhMy says:

    @RamV10:

    I can, and will, and have in the past, open my door on you if I’m sitting at a stoplight and you come zipping between me and another row of cars.

    My seatbelt was stuck in the door, you know? And what you were doing was illegal, so you lose.

    You might want to find out if this activity is indeed illegal in your city before you continue committing the crime of assault as a form of revenge.

  209. MDT says:

    Just substitute the phrase DOG SLED everywhere you see bike in her post and you can see how lame this little tantrum was.

    The stated rationale for leaving the bike outside was stupid, but really – there should be no expectations of taking a bike into any retail store. Gotten away with it before? Good on you. Some people get away with parking in handicapped zones.

    Where does this overwhelming self-importance come from? Suddenly Jesus, Thomas Jefferson and the natural law demand that you get a bike rack or you’re entitled to act out? It must have make our biker feel so superior to grind this lady down with her extreme cleverness.

    Welcome moral behavior in America’ 08 – where witless twenty somethings can assert moral cred. for avoiding shopping at Wal-Mart but unrelentingly crap on everyone around them for failing to adhere to some entitled idea of how life on this plant should revolve around their every whim.

    I have news – how you treat the people you meet (and obviously take for granted every day) is far more important than where you shop. Put that on your $600 bike and see if you can’t ride it to adulthood. Shirt and shoes optional.

  210. coren says:

    @MDT: Shit, they’re banning dogsleds in Walmart?

    Oh man, but where will my dog take a crap then? (poor comparison)

  211. SacraBos says:

    The reason the Wal-Mart employee gave was stupid. And the cyclist pointed that out very dramatically. As a cyclist, I do understand her concern. A bike lock isn’t always sufficient (remember the Kryponite locks that could be unlocked with a Bic pen?) especially in some areas. But it does remind me of the saying that all bikes weight 50 lbs:
    A 20lb bike needs a 30lb lock
    A 35lb bike needs a 15lb lock
    A 50lb bike needs no lock

    And yes, as a cyclist, I’ve seen lots jackass cyclists (rude, drive recklessly, etc). I don’t like those idiots any more than you do.

  212. SinisterMatt says:

    I’m sorry, but this seems over the top. Yeah, Walmart’s reasoning is stupid (especially since most if not all things of high value in the place has the tags that set off the door sensors). Even so, this woman was way out of line. I’m all for people thinking for themsleves (and this woman clearly does that), but she should pick her battles. This one was not worthing raising a stink over in such a way.

    Cheers!

  213. Amnesiac85 says:

    I think this is awesome. Hilarious. This woman gets an A+ from me.

    We’re all so concerned with our personal space, god forbid we’re slightly inconvenienced for a few minutes. She made a point, she called out the managers dumb rule in a pretty witty way. Not a drama queen, just being a fed up customer and making light of a dumb rule.

  214. @PHX602: Ha! My thought exactly. Get over yourself and your over-priced bike.

  215. SinisterMatt says:

    @bria:

    True, but it seems to me, though, that is much easier to get into a car than a bike. All it takes is a brick at a window. 5 seconds and your done.

    Cheers!

  216. Microxot says:

    You know, not all cyclist are like the lady listed above. In fact she is a major minority.

    I cycle to lose weight and notice the benifits of cycling to the store for small things instead of getting into a car which wastes gas and adds polution to the environment.

    I am a strong advocate of stopping at stop signs, stop lights, and waiting my turn. When I ride, I try to pick less congested roads and roads that have dual lanes so I am not backing up traffic.

    Yes, there are jerks out there that are causing traffic congestion, not knowing the rules of the road, endangering lives, and giving everyone else a bad name. And you know something, those jerks are both drivers and cyclist.

    If your going to get mad, get mad at them, and don’t generalize them with all the other drivers and cyclist who are on the road that do obey the laws and can share it in harmony.

  217. hwyengr says:

    @nealb: Luckily I live in LA, and the City of Los Angeles says I can ride my bike on either the street or the sidewalk, so long as I don’t disregard the safety of others using the sidewalk. 99% of the time I’ll ride on the street, but if the sidewalk is open and I can’t filter through traffic next to the curb at a stop light (also legal in CA), I’ve got no issues hopping up.

  218. mattindustries says:

    @MyPetFly: I had an SUV try and run my into a guardrail, I think his sub sustained a decent amount of damage from my fist. Too bad a few jerks have made me anti-car. ;-)

    There is a vicious cycle going on I have noticed, more drivers are seeing aggressive/violent bikers which became that way after automobiles showed aggression/violence toward them….etc. Then I see things like taxis and police (yes, they drive the same) doing u-turns and cutting in front of bicycles. You can’t blame everyone for a few’s mistakes, but a lot of motorists and bicyclists feel that they are justified. Don’t get me wrong, I will react if someone purposefully tries to run me off the road and they will receive a nice modification to their car from my bike lock, but I also wave unsure drivers through their left turns so they don’t have to wait for me. It is just a dangerous game being played, motorists don’t realize that by running a biker off the road they could potentially kill him and cyclists don’t realize if they don’t stop behaving stupid then motorists will feel malcontent with them.

  219. snoop-blog says:

    So does Wal-mart NOT sell sports bras? I thought they did…

  220. shocker says:

    So wait… If Wal-Mart doesn’t allow bikes in the store, how do they sell the bikes that are… in the store?

    If you’re buying a bike at Wal-Mart (and don’t they all come pre-assembled anymore?), it’s reasonable that you’d have to create the same supposedly massive disruption of walking with the bike on your way to the cash register that this woman would of created walking her own bike around the store.

  221. snoop-blog says:

    You know, when I was a kid, my mom gave me the same reason as to why you don’t bring in candy you are eating, or a toy you already bought into a store. Made perfect sense to me.

  222. DePaulBlueDemon says:

    @xanax25mg:

    I think you totally missed the point of my post.

  223. tgpt says:

    If I have to leave my $600 car outside, she has to leave her $600 bike outside.

  224. cpalifer says:

    Check out the documentary “Walmart: the high cost of low prices”. You won’t want to shop there anymore.

  225. RayDelMundo says:

    @ChuckECheese:
    What are you? 16?
    The odd philosophy is called capitalism.
    No one owes you or society anything.

    Let me fix that quote for you.

    Businesses DO exist solely for their own pleasure and profit; they have NO obligations to individuals and society.

    To say otherwise is nothing more than feel good socialist horseshit.

    We’ll all have pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye.

  226. manus manum lavat says:

    I dunno, guys, I’ve never seen a Walmart with ANY place to chain my bike up to. And believe me, I’ve looked! I think it probably depends on the area you live in.

  227. ShareDRoad says:

    I’m going to have to agree with the cyclist here. If there is no bike rack it can be difficult to find something to lock a bike to if you have an adequately safe U type lock. A cable lock may be able to go around a light post or something similar, but it takes seconds to steal a bike locked with that type of lock. Not to mention that some places will cut your lock if you lock it just anywhere…. She just wanted to keep her bike safe and she’d been allowed in the store with it before. *And* the excuse the manager gave was ridiculous to say the least…. The manager could have come up with something more plausible and the cyclist may have left without an argument, but because the manager just made up the first lame excuse she could think of she left herself open.

  228. ChuckECheese says:

    @TinyBug: Quibbling is good, and more constructive than name-calling. But actually I agree with your point completely. I didn’t want to spend any more time on my post because it was becoming a thesis.

    People support authoritarianism because they want the benefits of being on the side of the authoritarians, and they fear what might happen to them if they find themselves outside the authoritarians.

    Attacking somebody who challenges authoritarians is a way of saying what side you’re on. I’m afraid when America hits the skids, that these same haters will line up to vote for the first corn-pone Nazi who promises them they won’t lose their piece of the fried pie.

  229. shufflemoomin says:

    I’m sorry to have a good at the OP, but who in the name of holy-tap-dancing-christ takes a bike into a store with them to shop?? I’ve never seen that in any country and I’ve lived in Denmark where every single person owns or uses a bike and they leave them outside. Like normal people.

  230. Matthew says:

    Another pro-ReachHigher reader here, marveling at the deeply ingrained anti-cyclist sentiment even on such an enlightened site as this. (It’s even worse out on the roads!)

    Still, the whole thing could have been easily avoided by following one basic, common-sense rule: Never go to Wal-Mart, ever.

  231. vrn3b says:

    If you follow the link, you’ll see the OP describe her experience like this (*****emphasis mine****):

    “So the manager comes out and says I can’t bring the bike into the store, so I explain to her that there are safe places for people who drive to lock their cars but there is no safe place for me to lock my mode of transportation. *********She says that I should have driven there*********** I told her that I didn’t own a car and that my bike was my only form of transportation and I couldn’t risk having it stolen.”

    I think the situation began to escalate when the manager of Walmart believes that they have the right to tell you how you should have arrived at the store, especially when mode of transportation very often *is* a political choice today.

    As a non-driver (neither hubby nor I have licenses) who has faced discrimination because I have a *passport* for ID instead of a driver’s license, this kind of statement would be enough to set me off.

    We once had to get a manager because a local video rental store cashier refused to issue us a Rogers Video card because their policy is to require a credit card and driver’s license for ID. Not “photo ID” . . . specifically a driver’s license.

    I can’t say I wouldn’t lose it, too, after hearing that statement – not over the policy as much as the sheer inability and unwillingness to comprehend people might choose not to drive.

  232. redheadedstepchild says:

    @RamV10: If I see someone speeding, I drift out in front of them and brake check them.

    Filtering is actually legal in many states. Sorry.

  233. djkenny says:

    It would have shown a great deal of awareness for the manager to consider that they SHOULD have a bike rack. Duh!

    Slap a tag on the women’s bike and go to the right people to have one installed ASAP.

    Wallmart has the resources to have a fricken everyday bike rack installed and it would be good PR for ALL the stores to follow through with having one installed.

    It is unreasonable for the women to need to lock up to a tree or fence and it might have been removed by the store for all we know.

    Good for her. She has more balls than I.

  234. wynneth says:

    No comment on most of this, but I feel the need to respond to the other posters. If you chain up a $600 bike outside walmart you are an idiot. Don’t cry to me when someone steals it. Don’t worry though, the neighborhood kids who don’t carry the high dollar bolt cutters won’t steal it. They don’t know a $600 bike from a $50 one. It’s okay though, the guy who steals only high end bikes to resell has his bolt cutters on him.

    Maybe you’re filthy rich and $600 is nothing to you, but I wouldn’t waste any dollar I didn’t have to.

  235. changeyez says:

    last i checked, it’s not walmart’s responsibility to provide a place to lock up one’s bicycle.

  236. trujunglist says:

    @MikeToole:

    Maybe she just wanted to ride around the store a little. I think it would be kind of fun zooming around the aisles trying not to crash into people (not like that’s possible in the Walmart Zoo near here).

  237. surgesilk says:

    @xanax25mg:
    Why do you need an ‘*” for twit? Oh…OH! You meant a naughty word!

  238. coconutty says:

    No bike racks? Too bad. If she didn’t want to leave her precious bike outside, she shouldn’t have biked there. Maybe it would have meant walking four miles or wasting money on gas — so what? Quit complaining.

    Walmart’s reason for not letting her bring her bike in is irrelevant. Even if it really was unfair, they are the company, and that is their policy. She can take it or leave it. For the sake of the Walmart employees and poor customers who had to witness that childishness, I hope she never returns.

  239. Cyfun says:

    The issue of her having the bike in the store being a safety hazard is nullified by the fact that WALMART SELLS BIKES! If I were to go to the back of my local Wallyworld and buy a bike, I’d wheel the damn thing through the store, just as she would have with her own bike.

    And what about customers in wheelchairs and with walkers? Aren’t those just as big a hazard, if not bigger, than a normally-abled woman pushing around her bicycle?