Can Prayer Lower Gas Prices? These People Think So

Some people think we don’t have a prayer of gas prices dipping below $3.00 for a good long haul. These parishioners holding hands around a Shell station beg to differ. They’re part of a group called “Pray At The Pump,” organizing prayer-circles at various DC area gas stations, hoping to goad divine intervention into lowering gas prices. I wonder if they carpooled to the rendezvous point.

Activists Keep the Faith, if Not Their Money [Washington Post] (Thanks to ejangles!)

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  1. Tank says:

    yeah, that’ll solve it.

  2. EBone says:

    Again, if you want to pray for something to change, how about the situation in Darfur, or China’s policy on human rights? Is the price of gas really something to bother The Almighty over?

  3. homerjay says:

    Clearly this is high on God’s priority list.
    Go ahead, pray away lemmings.

  4. marsneedsrabbits says:

    Praying for an end to hunger or human suffering is so “2000 years ago”.

  5. buyer5 says:

    @EBone: Amen. It makes life suck, but our lives are still a walk in the park compared to the people in those mentioned countries. Maybe they should be thanking god for the opportunity to be able to purchase $4 a gallon gas, being able to sleep without fear of having your throat slashed by genocidal maniacs, and be mostly shielded from dying in the gutter. Count your blessings.

  6. CaliCheeseSucks says:

    @EBone: Doesn’t it seem that the “Christians” that get the most publicity are the ones praying for / protesting about things that benefit them?

    Reminds me of George Carlin’s numerous skits about these people.

  7. Coder4Life says:

    These people have got to be kidding. What is wrong WITH YOU PEOPLE? Seriously…

    How about you go do something about the gas prices rather than standing there praying..

    How about you stop wasting yoru time driving to random gas stations and praying, and get yoruself a nice little prius hybrid, cut your driving, turn off the lights when you don’t use them, lower air condition use, oh I dont know.. MAYBE EVEN GET A LIFE…

  8. mgy says:

    Pray for a kid to regrow a limb and then get back to me when it happens.

  9. poetry1mind says:

    I guess these people don’t under estimate the power of God.

  10. Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen says:

    My experience says that GOD doesn’t take financial requests or medical requests.

  11. Ryan H says:

    This is what happens when you get a large collection of people who are so disconnected from the world that they have no real concept of how things work. The process of the gas getting to the pump is so mysterious and beyond their understanding that it all seems random. There is no reason they can grasp for the price going up, so it might as well be divine will.

    An educated population demands changes and accountability from the people in charge. They can make connections between what is happening and outside factors. But when you don’t have the education or the mindset to grasp the realities they have to fall back on what they know.

  12. Noris159 says:

    @EBone: Clearly people praying for low gas prices are taking it VERY SERIOUSLY, just like you’re taking this prayer VERY SERIOUSLY.

    ps – I love freedom. Freedom lets people make clowns of themselves in public and I get a free chuckle out of it.

  13. antmilla says:

    “Is the price of gas really something to bother The Almighty over? “
    @EBone: Most Definitely.

  14. Hey, if god wanted you to have cheap gas then he would have made it more abundant and put more of it in America. It’s intelligent design people, stop arguing with it.

  15. bohemian says:

    Instead of using their brains to figure out how to cope with high gas prices, like taking the bus, carpooling, getting a hybrid or demanding accountability on the price issue they pray. This seems like the least effective way to solve your problem not to mention unbelievably petty and self centered.

  16. privateer says:

    All this proves is that God is an Exxon stockholder.

  17. textilesdiva says:

    What would Jesus do?

    I dunno…maybe walk?

  18. TWinter says:

    Uggggggg – this marks a new low in American “Christianity”.

    I use the ” ” because most Christians appear to be followers of Christ in name only.

  19. Uriel says:

    they use that sugar cane alcohol on flex fuel vehicles in Brazil. corn based gas gives about as much energy as it takes to make, whereas sugar alcohol in flex vehicles produces about seven times the energy it takes to make. This stuff costs something like $1.60/gal over in Brazil. If anyone in charge really cared about this hardship, and not getting richer off of people, we would probably be harvesting our gas right now.

  20. t325 says:

    @textilesdiva: He’d probably call them a bunch of fucking idiots and tell them to stop giving him such a bad name.

  21. Triborough says:

    A read of the article reveals that the guy behind is a PR flack who likes publicity stunts:

    A public relations consultant, Twyman is experienced at garnering publicity and has staged campaigns over the years for various causes, from tsunami relief to bone marrow donations for minorities.

    In 2005, he began a movement to get Oprah Winfrey the Nobel Peace Prize. (She did not win.) Last year, he led prayers for rain in drought-afflicted Georgia. (Rain did eventually fall.)

  22. I wish they would pray for competent leadership at all levels of government. Oh wait, they could could just vote for it….. doh

  23. ryanasimov says:

    It’s the least they could do.

    Literally.

  24. chuck0008 says:

    A few things, number one, praying for things to change, rather than trying to change them is foolish. When people act like this, all it does is reinforce the belief that religion is a crutch on which people fall when they do not understand what is happening around them (as stated above, fuel production and delivery is mysterious o most people). This is no different than doing a dance to bring rain. That being said, I will take a second to say that yes, God can answer even this specific request (and this is just me sharing, it is not an attempt to start a flame war). My wife and I have been getting kiled by gas prices and a long commute, since I am out of work and working to get a ministry built and functioning. My 1966 Ford truck runs great, but gets 8-10 MPG, and we don’t have the resources to buy a new car. Then, Sunday, after much praying, we were literally given a car from someone with whom I have a business relationship, and now we are getting 25-30 MPG. These people will have their answer if God wants, but this is most likely an opportunity for us, as people, to solve our problem for ourself, with His guidance, rather than just expecting Him to make it change.

  25. ibored says:

    I hope a lightning bolt divines its way into these peoples homes shortly

  26. Trai_Dep says:

    Shame they didn’t pray to ditch their gas-guzzling street-cleaner-fashioned monstrosities to ferry their saggy butts the two block distance to pick up their Big Gulp several years ago, huh?
    Jesus: “Payback’s a b*tch, ain’t it?”

  27. bradanomics says:

    5)”And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. (6)But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. (7)And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. (8)Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. – Matthew 6.5-8 NASB

  28. rpt1700 says:

    I think it’d be neat if during one of these prayer vigils a gas station employee went out and raised the price.

  29. @TWinter: Amen. I cannot stand Christians who are too busy hurl the Bible at others to bother reading it for themselves.

    “Faith without works is dead.” In other words, pray… and then get off your ass and DO something!

  30. ideagirl says:

    CLUELESS: Adjective
    * S: (adj) clueless (totally uninformed about what is going on; not having even a clue from which to infer what is occurring)
    Princeton WordNet

  31. laserjobs says:

    If they spent that time praying on educating themselves maybe they could afford the gas

  32. Peeved Guy says:

    @textilesdiva: He could sell his car AND his boat…now that’s conservation!

  33. carpediemcls says:

    Why do people praying offend so many people? Its not like they are shoving tracts in your faces, or preaching at you. They have as much right to do with their time what they desire to do as anyone. If it seems silly, or a waste of time to you–so what? What is it to you anyways? If you want to talk wasting time, take a look at how you spend your day before you point fingers and scoff at someone else. Last time I checked people are allowed to believe in what they want whether or not it seems absurd to you all.

  34. Noris159 says:

    @Uriel: You really need to research why biofuels are not the solution for the United States. Please stop having an opinion. Thank you.

  35. sir_eccles says:

    I’m thinking of starting a new group myself, it’s called:

    “Vote at the ballot box”

    The group will organize people to go vote at the next election to change the government in the hope that our foreign policy will change and result in lower gas prices.

  36. Ryan H says:

    @carpediemcls:
    Because many of us see blind prayer as a sign of the decline of civilization. Please note, this is not a story about how a prayer group was praying for lower gas prices while educating people about better MPG vehicles. They were not praying for gas prices while telling people to elect someone else. They were not generating publicity for a renewable energy project or local farmers or biking to work.

    No, people concerned about an issue came together to do something. And holding hands in a circle and praying was not simply the best idea they could come up with, it was apparently the ONLY idea they could come up with. So they did that and then went home secure in the knowledge they they have done their part.

    The whole thing is incredibly depressing.

  37. eimajuno says:

    Prayer never solved anything. These people are just wasting their time. But I guess thats what god is telling them to do. Funny how these people think god talks to them or that they can communicate through prayer. I would classify them as delusional.

  38. @Ryan H:

    *EXACTLY*

  39. Actually, I have been saying “Jesus Christ!” and “Dear God!” a lot at the pump lately.

    Of course, I am not expecting any results from it….

  40. TechnoDestructo says:

    Every bit of worry, every bit of publicity, every bit of public fretting over the price of fuel does nothing but help keep prices high.

    You’re not buying just gasoline, you’re also paying for FEAR.

  41. GregGates says:

    I don’t support any sort of prosperity gospel or material wealth prayer. I do think that gathering to pray for gas price “victims” is a fine activity (granted one might question the notion of praying for any American while the majority of the world lives on $1~ and may sample mud pies from time to time).

    I do support the condemnation of jackasses who aren’t spending wisely and then look for instant resolve and hand outs when their little 24-hour life cycle is shattered. Mature, pay yourself first, make good decisions, stop eating at Portillo’s 7 days a week, don’t have children out of wedlock and stay employed.

    All that said, this type of story always seem to smoke out the mid-tier intellectuals and their emo atheist angst. Check yourselves.

  42. backbroken says:

    This would have never happened during football season. These fine folks would be too busy praying for a Redskin’s victory.

  43. Stephen Colon says:

    This really pains me. I’m a Christian, and public displays like this really give us a bad name. Prayer isn’t supposed to be completely selfish like this. You pray for others first, then that God would have his will (what he knows is best) for a situation. Making requests is fine, but turning it into a freak show is ridiculous. And, like others have said before me, time could be better spent praying over issues that affect people in much more destitute situations. If your $80 gas bill becomes too much, walk. Jesus says he’ll cover your needs. Walking doesn’t exactly work for some other crises.

  44. In this man’s defense, he does admit that “there may not be an instant solution”. Most people do nothing about gas prices, but he says that “prayer with activism will make a change…”

    Though I don’t agree with their methods and it’s impossible to tell what they’ve accomplished, they have done more than I.

  45. mzhartz says:

    What if low gas prices aren’t in God’s Divine Plan?

  46. Landru says:

    What happens when these folks are matched by the oil company folks praying that prices continue to skyrocket?

  47. ngth says:

    Seriously? Think people, think!! How does praying equate to lowering gas prices? Actually, how does praying equate to anything tangible?

  48. @mzhartz: D’oh, beat me to it! god’s divine plan trumps all else, so prayer is a crapshoot at best.

  49. dohtem says:

    @chuck0008: Thanks for your response. I was trying to come up with a reply but you have said it eloquently.

  50. arungupta says:

    At this stage, when the US president and the US Congress have no viable plan to get the gas prices down, it can’t hurt to pray.

  51. satoru says:

    Yes keep praying. Because praying helps with all sorts of things. Like cancer and world hunger and preventing wars and…. uh… well like lots of stuff!

  52. drjayphd says:

    @Triborough: “Last year, he led prayers for rain in drought-afflicted Georgia. (Rain did eventually fall.)”

    Yeah, Twyman, I’m sure it was your prayers that made rain fall at some point in the future… (rolls eyes)

  53. danseuse322 says:

    Good grief! It seems the comment code is irrelevant if people pray. 1) Does praying for gas prices being lowered mean you CAN’T pray for China or wherever? 2) At least they are praying and not complaining and griping and whining like babies over the prices. They are probably far more pelasant to spend time with than some people. 3) At least they have some faith and believe. It doesn’t give Christians a bad name to pray for an economic problem. Not in itself. I do not spend a lot of time praying about gas prices but I don’t think God is upset over people who do. Mean spiritedness probably upsets him far more.

  54. bohemian says:

    I cut my gas bill by driving less, consolidating trips and doing most of our driving in the car with better mpg. Does this make me a god? :-)
    I need to quit operating under the assumption that other people possess rational thought processes, I am constantly disappointed.

  55. buyer5 says:

    They shouldn’t pray to Jesus, but rather to Allah for mercy.

  56. carpediemcls says:

    I just can’t stand people who sit at home on their computers and place blame on others when most of you probably are doing LESS for gas prices than these people are. IN a world filled with violence, hatred, cynicism, and bitterness people joining together is a nice change. When did we become more quick to be skeptical and bitter than having faith in other people? Its a sad way to live–constantly frustrated and angry with others. So what if they aren’t doing what YOU think is effective. As for “voting” instead of praying…well, I am MUCH more skeptical voting towards a government that continually lets down the American people (and I’m not just bashing Bush here). I mean, politicians? Voting for me is always choosing the lesser of two evils. They are all corrupt and payed WAY too much if you ask me.

  57. OsiUmenyiora says:

    They can pray all they want but they’re around 60 million years too late. They should have been around then to ask god for more oil.

  58. Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon. says:

    FAIL.

    Here’s $50 that says 3/4’s of them jump in their SUV’s after the protest and drive home.

    If there is a God, I hope he’s working on the 10,000 other problems that cause more suffering than high gas prices.

  59. humphrmi says:

    @carpediemcls: Maybe if they didn’t draw attention to themselves in the media, I’d buy that. But unless their God is “The God of Finance” it’s fairly pretentious to think that gas prices in one of the cheapest gas-guzzling nations are important enough to pray to your Creator about.

    If they were just an iota more creative, they would simply pray for peace in the middle east. Then lower gas prices would come naturally. Two birds, one stone. Er, so to speak.

  60. MyPetFly says:

    Dear Lord,

    We lifteth our hands up to you, O Lord of Lords, Mightiest of Mighties, and asketh for your help. As you knoweth, the heathen conquerors of your Holy Land have taken it upon themselves to raiseth the price of your Holy Light Sweet Crude, which rightly belongeth to your devoted followers in North America except for Mexico.

    Please, we beseecheth you to lay your hands upon our Hummers and Escalades and blesseth them with your might, all while striking down enemies of your righteous holy greatness.

    Also, please remembereth the little children in the third world, and showeth your love by showering down upon them chocolate treats (store brand is fine since they won’t knoweth the difference).

    In your name we prayeth, Ramen.

  61. AnxiousDemographic says:

    @Ryan H: Amen, brother!

    The effort would be so much better spend talking with their representatives in Congress. I cannot possibly imagine what gas prices have to do with the afterlife, except possibly the various ways in which gasoline gets one to the afterlife.

  62. camille_javal says:

    @carpediemcls: I just can’t stand people who sit at home on their computers and place blame on others when most of you probably are doing LESS for gas prices than these people are. IN a world filled with violence, hatred, cynicism, and bitterness people joining together is a nice change. When did we become more quick to be skeptical and bitter than having faith in other people?

    when many of us spent some time at the butt of the particular brand of “loving Christians” who do things like pray in PR stunts. The hypocrisy is often palpable. Too often the same people who pray in public groups for things like gasoline prices are the same people who pray in public groups for the souls of homosexuals (and not in a good way). (Note: particular brand = not all Christians. Thank you bradanomics for quoting my favorite passage of Matthew.)

    I’d also like to note that the article dates from May 31st – I’m in DC, and the place around the corner was $4.14 last I saw – the Costco gas station in the suburbs that my folks go to (they live out there, although I’m sure there are people who will haul out for it) is the cheapest in the area, and it was $3.96 on Sunday, with a line at the pump waiting for the place to open.

    So, what we always knew is proven once again – God hates DC.

  63. Mom2Talavera says:

    @mgy:

    praying is nothing more than thinking REALLY hard about something. Don’t hurt yourselves now!


    + Watch video

  64. ElizabethD says:

    Jeez. (no pun intended)

    I wish loonies like these people would stop giving thoughtful, intelligent religious and spiritual people a bad name.

  65. Norsehawk says:

    I remember these guys started praying locally when gas was hovering around $3.40 a gallon, obviously they are doing it wrong.

  66. scerwup says:

    Sigh… I’m sure the almighty himself has a great interest in making something so destructive to the environment, cheaper and easier to use larger quantities of. I mean, damn, does religion destroy brain cells or something?

  67. Crabfeast says:

    The oil companies seem to have set up some sort of strategic counter prayer circle to to cancel out this group’s work.

  68. VikingP77 says:

    What a waste of time for these folks. HE or SHE won’t alleviate suffering around the world for animals or humans so why is praying about gas prices going to make anything any better? Superstitious numbskull’s is what these people are.

  69. Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon. says:

    @Norsehawk: Prayin’…yer doin it wrong”

    @Crabfeast: The oil companies demand another sacrifice….

    @scerwup: Yes it does (in some cases).

  70. theblackdog says:

    How many of them drove up in SUV’s by themselves when they could have carpooled with someone else in the ground?

  71. waza says:

    hippies

  72. @GregGates: “All that said, this type of story always seem to smoke out the mid-tier intellectuals and their emo atheist angst.”

    I am so totally stealing this line.

  73. warf0x0r says:

    Who were they praying too… there is a difference

  74. chuck0008 says:

    Mom-cute video. I love how on pretty much any blog, Christian detraction is like a sport. Anyways, the video, as I said is cute. Here is what is wrong with it. To begin with, the narrator says it himself, if you pray, and believe it has been received, you will have it. So, premise 1: I believe I hae what I am praying for, it is mine. Premise 2: I roll the dice, praying I will get my result, but not believing that I will. Premise 3: I didn’t get my result. Conclusion: Prayer doesn’t work. There is a slight logically fallacy there. And any atheist, merely by virtue of being atheist, cannot truly believe God will grant them their needs (not wants, and note, you need X for X to grant something), so no atheist can perform this experiment successfully. Also, I love the excuses bit. Not clasping hands right. Nice, cause Jesus tells us how to hold our bodies when we pray. Also, this couldn’t be more apples to oranges if it tired. As soon as I find a horseshoe with a prophet, maybe I will change my mind. Example 3, how do we know who is “deserving”? At least the narrator could use the phrase “hindsight bias” to give the impression he knows what he is talking about. Anyways, at no point does the narrator actually prove that prayer is superstition, he merely shows supposition that it is superstition based on an eronious notion that normal, intelligent people will know it is superstition, so it is superstition. He proposes that if these experiments are caried out, then that is what they will prove. That is not proof. That is not science. That is conjecture, speculation, and (wait for it….) faith. Yep, faith. He has not proven his conclusion scientifically, yet he is sure it is true. I have not proven God exists scientifically, yet I am sure it is true. Who here is the most faithful (answer, of course, no one).

  75. chuck0008 says:

    Oh, and in Mt 18:19, Jesus isn’t really talking aout prayer either. But why quibble over a little detail like that.

  76. TonyTriple says:

    I wonder how many miles I can get out of a gallon of Mana. Anyone have the octane count?

  77. chuck0008 says:

    Tony-depends on the coloric content

  78. Arthur says:

    What a thoughtless waste of time, they should have drove to the blood bank to make a deposit instead.

  79. Trai_Dep says:

    @TonyTriple: Considering Diablo III is at least a year off, I’d say be patient with that mana stuff.

  80. Kali Mama says:

    “Conclusion: Prayer doesn’t work. There is a slight logically fallacy there. And any atheist, merely by virtue of being atheist, cannot truly believe God will grant them their needs (not wants, and note, you need X for X to grant something), so no atheist can perform this experiment successfully.”

    Speaking of logical fallacies, no true Scotsman?
    Also we’re not saying prayer doesnt work because we put fingers in our ears chanting neener neener god isn’t real, we’re saying it because scientific study shows prayer or lack of prayer doesn’t make a lick of difference.

  81. ironchef says:

    maybe praying to Allah might help considering the location of the dino juice. LOL.

  82. Ariah says:

    @EBone:
    If they, like most churches, were praying about the serious issues affecting the world, it wouldn’t be a news story. It’s only news because it’s silly.

  83. MercuryPDX says:

    @CaliCheeseSucks: In that vein….

    (Link coded to NOT play here because of salty language.)

    The relevant part is from 5:21 to 7:21

  84. MercuryPDX says:

    Technically, they’re not hurting anybody but I was under the impression God helps those who help themselves. Would it be too much to ask that half the parish/group pray and the other half do something a little more active?

    @Kali Mama: I’m an atheist, and I pray for higher gas prices so we can end our dependence on fossil fuels and move on to cleaner, more efficient, and less expensive alternatives…. not really, but that certainly throws a wrench in your logic.

  85. chuck0008 says:

    Kali-my point exaclty. What scientific studies? The one a couple years ago that showed that prayer doesn’t help. That was the one that was on Fark, and all over the news pages. That study was methodologically flawed. What about studies from before that, that actually showed that people for whom prayers are offered do improve at a numerically significant rate? I don’t care enough to go find the specific ones, but they were done, and that was the conclusion. Likewise, I have sen many of my own prayers answered as well, and I’m not just cherry picking the instances where it worked to the ommission of the times that it didn’t. Of course, the other problem is how do you measure your outcome? If you pray that someone recovers from cancer, but God, being aware that that person would become a drunk driver and kill someone’s daughter if allowed to live, then wsa the prayer answered? Someone’s prayer that their daughter grow up safe and healthy was answered, while someone else’s prayer that theis person not die was not. This is the meaning of God’s plan. You really have to be able to divorce yourslef from the little picture to see prayer work. Otherwise, you can sit here convinced that these prayers are not working when they actually are, right in front of you. As a final point, remember, God is not a genie, here to grant our every wish, whim, and desire. If you pray vainly, it won’t be answered (which is why vain utterances and taking God’s name in vain are both expressly forbidden).

  86. chuck0008 says:

    BTW-and what point is being made by mention of the no true Scotsman? My point is that an atheist cannot meet the necessary requirement of believing that God wil grant them thier prayer, so cannot conduct an experiment as to the validity of prayer. If I am going to prove that X fertilizer does not make plants grow, and I add X ferilizer to every plant in a crop, but I never water it because I refuse to believe that plants need water to grow, I cannot conclude anything about the viability of X fertilizer as a product. If an atheist became a theist (specifically a Christian), and really and truly immersed themselves into Chrisianity, then tried to prove or disprove prayer, they would be qualified to make a conclusion having met all of the prerequisites.

  87. petermv says:

    I have heard of a study done on praying for the quick recovery of people in hospital, there were 3 groups, one group who were not prayed for, one group who were prayed for and a third group who were prayed for and were told they were being prayed for. In the first two groups, there was no difference in the rate of healing or outcome, the third group however took longer to heal, or did not heal properly. The rationale was that knowing they were being prayed for seemed to make them believe their condition was worse than they though and di not fare as well.

    Link here: [seattletimes.nwsource.com]

  88. animeredith says:

    My boyfriend reading over my shoulder: “Why don’t they just take the fucking BUS?”

  89. Stanium says:

    I wonder what god they are praying to? They’d better talk talk to an Indian shaman. If they can summon rain, why not gas?

  90. aikoto says:

    Right… Because that’s been working so well in politics, weather, diseases, crime, etc.

  91. Erwos says:

    Wow, what the hell happened to not blaming the victim? Or is that only when the victim isn’t a part of a group that the Internet hates?

  92. TouchMyMonkey says:

    1. Wait until gas prices are at their absolute peak.
    2. Make a big show of praying to make gas prices go down
    .
    .
    .
    4. Profit!

  93. TouchMyMonkey says:

    The fact that the majority of the world’s oil lies under the Middle Eastern sand is proof that God hates America.

  94. battra92 says:

    @chuck0008: Exactly!

    This reminds me of a story. There was a big flood in a midwest town and a priest was inside the church praying for help.

    A raft came by to offer a ride and the priest said, “No thanks, the Lord will provide.”

    As the waters grew higher he took refuge on the church roof. A motorboat came by and offered him a ride and again his answer was, “No thanks, the Lord will provide.”

    Eventually he was sitting atop the steeple when a helicopter came overhead and once again he said, “No thanks, the Lord will provide.”

    The priest drowned and went to heaven. Upon reaching the pearly gates he asked St. Peter why God didn’t help him when he needed it.

    St. Peter replied, “He sent you two boats and a helicopter, what more did you want?”

  95. anonymouscoworker says:

    @chuck0008: If prayer is so effective, why has it never regenerated a lost limb? Not even the tip of a pinky finger? Are the prayers of amputees and their families not valid somehow? Or is limb regeneration beyond God’s power?

  96. Mira Mi Huevo!!! says:

    @chuck0008: You do not need fancy studies to know that praying is nothing more than a “placebo” for the “soul”. Pray for world hunger and suffering to end… Did it end?… Did not think so!!!

  97. battra92 says:

    @Ryan H: Could be worse I guess. Around here for whatever ails society is “solved” with a candlelit vigil.

    It has the benefit of looking religious without being religious so Massholes feel they “Made a Difference(TM)”

  98. Sasquatch says:

    If God didn’t have control over oil prices, why did he put so much of the oil in the Holy Land?

    /sarcasm

  99. Erwos says:

    @Sasquatch: The Holy Land is generally considered biblical Israel/Palestine, not Persia.

  100. oyvader says:

    I know I invoke God’s name every time I see gas prices, usually to say something like “Thank God I take the bus.”

  101. IrisMR says:

    Excuse me while I go over there and laugh very hard.

    Aaah, christians.

  102. IrisMR says:

    PS: I remember that a while ago there was a prayer for rain. What they got was a massive flood. You may want to rethink that strategy, guys. God’s cruel.

  103. shufflemoomin says:

    Is it just me or is Religion the new free licence for people to act like arses the world over..?

  104. SharkD says:

    Given their egregiously high prices compared to stations just across the boundaries, in NoVA and Maryland, why would anyone patronize the 3 or 4 stations that actually reside within the district. Even the cabbies don’t buy gas in the District unless they have to.

  105. .
    MMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm, you can just TASTE the selfishness.

    (which, BTW, tastes just like particle chicken breasts)

  106. Peeved Guy says:

    @HurtsSoGood: The worlds larget oil deposit is actually under Canada, not the mideast.
    @rmric0: See above

  107. Peeved Guy says:

    @Peeved Guy: Crap, in my haste I skimmed the article too fast. Disregard that post.

    But, my point is that all it would take for us to reduce or eliminate our depenbdace on foreifn oil is to exploit the resources that we have at hand, ANWR, off shore oil, shale oil in the Rockies, etc. No doubt an unpopular POV, but that’s what it would take.

  108. ras_d says:

    @Noris159:

    What research would that be, eh? Ever heard of switch grass? Ever heard of the decreasing petroleum reserves around the world? What are earth are you talking about?

  109. ras_d says:

    @Peeved Guy:

    Still stuck on petroleum….

    The answer is to find new technologies, not to rape the earth of the remaining scraps of petroleum.

  110. P_Smith says:

    I thought their “jeezus” went all over Israel on foot and trudged up a hill carrying a twelve foot tall cross that would weigh in the region of 500 pounds. These idiots can’t carry their groceries home or even ride a bike.

    So much for “walking with jeezus”. It’s all talk and as little action as possible.

  111. snoop-blog says:

    dear god,

    As much as we humans have done to fuck up the planet, can we have more oil to burn and pollute the planet more so we can with out a doubt start the end of human existance.

    thanks in advance…

  112. mariospants says:

    @danseuse322: “but I don’t think God is upset over people who do. Mean spiritedness probably upsets him far more.”

    That’s the funny thing about “God”: how would anybody know if he/she/it is upset about anything? I mean, it’s not like you have any evidence of any correllation between real-world events and… well, your spiritual belief in events. Yeah, maybe the old-bearded-man-on-a-cloud in your fantasies is upset but frankly “God” SHOULD be upset about babies dying of starvation, but he/she/it doesn’t intervene — so why should “God” then intervene to lower gas prices??? But it’s a good thing “God” gets upset at “mean spiritedness”. Yeah, that makes complete sense.

  113. darkryd says:

    If God doesn’t step in to stop wars, famine, etc., Then i highly doubt he’ll be stepping in to make sure your H2 gets an affordable tank of gas.

  114. Dawnrazor says:

    @chuck0008:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    The most concise and eloquent explanation I have seen in a LONG time about what “Christianity” really means.

    One of the tenets of Christianity is the fact that we were created in God’s OWN IMAGE. This means much, much more than physical appearance (and it’s debatable whether the scriptures were even referring to physical appearance-it seems very unlikely that God resembles a kindly older gentleman with white hair, as is generally protrayed in art). To me, this means that our human intellegence, deductive/inductive reasoning abilities, drive to create things, emotions, and sense of empathy for those suffering are all traits posessed by God himself. Therefore, God HAS ALREADY GIVEN US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO SOLVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS. I actually believe I’m insulting God if I pray for something that is basically a selfish request (such as cheap gas); God gave me the abilities I have, and if I don’t fully take advantage of those abilities I’m being lazy and ungrateful for the capabilities I have been given.

    A good biblical illustration is Paul. He repeatedly wrote of a “thorn in his side” that God persistently refused to remove. What God was trying to get across was the fact that His grace alone (the death of Christ for the atonement of sins) was sufficient. Basically, God has already done the most wonderus thing imaginable by offering a path to forgiveness and “eternal” life that involves faith alone, and “owes” us abosolutely nothing more. The “greatness” of anything else He could do for us would pale infinitely in comparison to the promise of eternal life.

    I believe the most truly “Godly” prayers are those we voice on behalf of another person as well as those we voice simply to give thanks.

    Even with $4.00 gas, declining housing values, the credit crisis, the war in Iraq, the “terrorism” threat, and global warming the fact is that more people in the world are enjoying higher standards of living than ever before and this nation needs to stop behaving as a bunch of spoiled brats and start counting our blessings. There are still >1,000,000,000 people on this planet that do not even have access to potable water-perhaps a few prayers (followed by ACTION on our part) for their plight are in order?

  115. atypicalxian says:

    @danseuse322: I was going to say something like that. Just because they’re praying for this doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not praying for the situation in Zimbabwe or Darfur. Christians are called to pray and act; one does not negate the other.

    @battra92: You said it! All we need to do is raise awareness.

  116. atypicalxian says:

    @Dawnrazor: Amen!

  117. chuck0008 says:

    This is probably the final thing that I will say on here. It is time to move on. Anyways, as to why God doesn’t heal amputees, that’s a question that may be beyond my understanding of God’s plan. That said, again, just because God doesn’t do something, doesn’t mean that He is not able to. Also, why should God magically undo every bad thing that happens that is “bad”, simply because it is bad? If it were not for hardship, there would be no innovation. It is human nature. Then, of course, there is the plan that God has. Without knowing the alternate outcome to what happens to us, how can we be sure that we are actually worse off for a given occurence. Even death could be the answer to a prayer. Lots of things are worse than death. As to the story of the guy in the flood, I love that story. It is absolutley one of my favorites. I hate how selfish people get when they are like, oh no, poor me, God should just make this better. I want to be 50 pounds lighter. The gym is hard, praying is easy, and, of course, God must not love me or not exist or something if I’m not losing 10 pounds a day while living on fast food. As an aside, I have a severed median nerve that never healed compleetely after surgery. I have all of the capabilities that I need (knowing my purpose), although my options are very limited for what I am stil able to do.

  118. Peeved Guy says:

    @ras_d: Once we have a new technology that can do what oil does for us, sign me up. Until then, yes, lets find new oil deposits and exploit the crap outta them. What’s the alternative? I’ll tell you, keep using foreign oil, pay through the nose for it and still not find the new technology.

  119. Teapotfox says:

    @Erwos: The “victim?” I didn’t realise that only Christians were being charged higher gas prices… I’d better make sure I mention I’m an atheist at the pump next time! When it comes to high gas prices, we are ALL the “victims,” even if we don’t drive, as high gas prices become reflected in the prices of shipped goods, including consumables. Unless one is completely self-sufficient (and more power to anyone who is), the pinch will be felt.

    I don’t care what anyone chooses to believe, I really don’t… until it either encroaches upon my own rights to believe what I like by being forced upon me in some way OR is used by its believers as an excuse for acting self-righteous and superior. I have every right to think, however, that praying to Invisible Dad in the Sky for lower gas prices is a stupid waste of time when there are actual things these folks could be doing that will have a real impact for sure, not just if a capricious deity decides they should.

  120. Erwos says:

    @Teapotfox: You basically just proved my point. Re-read what I wrote, and compare it to what you wrote.

  121. BlazerUnit says:

    This is intellectually insulting to anyone with a working brain, religious or not.

  122. Teapotfox says:

    @Erwos: I don’t hate anyone, and even if I did, I do not represent the opinions of the internet. I reject the accusation that anyone who thinks this method of attempting to affect gas prices is stupid is “blaming” a “victim.” Let’s remove religion from the equation entirely–if a group of people got together in a park to start playing daily games of Ultimate Frisbee because they believed that would help lower gas prices, would it be okay to say that is stupid? It’s a bunch of people doing something to try to affect something else via a method that has never been proven to work… when there are dozens of other things they -could- be doing that -would- have a demonstrable positive effect.

    As for the “victim,” again, I’m not blaming the people who are praying for the fact that gas prices are high, nor are they the “victims” in this case… again, we all are.

  123. I knew the God haters and Christian haters would come out in droves to comment on this article.

    Just because you or I wouldn’t do it doesn’t mean you have to be so hostile.

    Does wanting to save money/be a responsible consumer equal atheistic jerk?

  124. P_Smith says:

    @thedreamingtree:

    Boo hoo. You claim a “god” created everything yet its entire existence is threatened by the words of one person.

    If your religion can’t withstand criticism, it wasn’t worth believing in to begin with. The strongest arguments welcome questioning, the weakest fear it.