Starbucks To Close 600 Stores, Cut Up To 12,000 Jobs

MSNBC says that Starbucks has announced that it will be closing 600 locations in the US and could eliminate up to 12,000 full and part-time jobs. Previously, the company had announced that it would close only 100 stores.

Reader gibson, who sent in the tip says:

Considering that there are THIRTY-TWO Starbucks within TWO miles of my house, this news seems inevitable. Seriously, 32 Starbucks within a 2 mile radius?! …Welcome to Portland, Oregon!

You know, people say the roaches and rats in New York are bad— but since I moved here I’ve seen more Starbucks locations than both of them combined, and I take the subway.

Starbucks to close 600 stores in the U.S. [MSNBC]
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  1. S3CT says:

    Furst!

  2. samurailynn says:

    I would hope that this means other coffee shops have a chance, but it probably just means that the coffee industry in general is stagnant or in decline.

  3. Televiper says:

    @samurailynn: It probably means that people are thinking more about the $5 coffee at Starbucks, and reconsidering the $1 coffee at Dunkin’ Donuts, or the free coffee at work. Considering the proliferation of Starbucks coffee shops, I doubt anyone is going out of their way to find a cup.

  4. meadandale says:

    Coffee sucks, stores every half block.

    I mean really, who didn’t see this coming?

  5. bl8675309 says:

    If you go to their store locator page, type in 40 w 52nd street in NY, there are 212 within 5 miles.

    [www.starbucks.com]

  6. Shmonkmonk says:

    I know that a lot of you are going to go on about burnt $7 cup of coffee or what not but think about it… 12,000 people are going to lose their jobs. That sucks. Regardless of what you feel about their product, they treated their workers very well. I’ve known a lot of people who work/ed for them. Aside from them offering health care to those who just work 20 hours, they have other great benefits.

  7. Shmonkmonk says:

    Oh, and speaking of $7 coffee…

    Their “cup of coffee” is just $1.72- yes, that’s a lot but it’s only like a .20 difference from the 711 coffee.

  8. forgottenpassword says:

    Oh man! I feel so sorry for all those snooty “baristas” no longer able to berate for not knowing the correct word for the various size cups.

  9. forgottenpassword says:

    @forgottenpassword:

    Should read “berate customers”

  10. My favorite NYC Starbucks locations are the Astor Place and the Cooper Union Starbucks. They’re literally a few steps from each other.

  11. homerjay says:

    Like a busload of lawyers at the bottom of the ocean, this is a good start.

  12. meadandale says:
  13. Sherryness says:

    That’s ok – I’m back in the land of Tully’s. :) I feel bad for the employees who will lose their jobs. But it doesn’t really affect me since I now have Tully’s to go to.

  14. bcash says:

    YES YES YES, please let a good portion of those be in SF. 72 stores in San Francisco and the city is only 42 square miles. We have lost so many good coffee shops since Starbucks infection took hold.

  15. Sherryness says:

    @bl8675309: That seems almost physically impossible.

  16. Leohat says:

    [sarcasm]

    Cue the riots in the streets of Seattle.

    I wonder what the employee turnover is. They may not have to lay all that many people off if they reduce via atrition.

    [/sarcasm]

  17. forgottenpassword says:

    @meadandale:

    lol classic foamy.

  18. yungjerry703 says:

    they flooded the market, that bubble was bound to pop. i wonder if the people picking the coffee will get laid off or paid less, i don’t see how it’s possible, they only get paid a few dollars a week at the height of the starbucks empire.

  19. ChuckECheese says:

    At my most recent visit to the SB in Pahrump NV, I asked for a tall drip. The barista paused, then said to me, “so you want a small coffee then.” YES!

  20. chucklebuck says:

    I know it’s all fun to hate on big evil Starbucks, but I’m gonna be sad if mine closes because I’m going to miss the people. The baristas there are like family – a lot of them have been working there for years (one girl got a job there when she started college and we saw her graduate a couple months ago), we all know each other by name, and they turn what might otherwise be a soulless corporate store into a pleasant place to go get coffee and hang out. Some of them are talented musicians and artists working there to make some money while they try to pursue their art. “Starbucks” might be cold and by the numbers, but MY Starbucks has a human element that I don’t care to lose.

  21. ludwigk says:

    @bcash: The other day I was walking in the financial district near embarcadero. I saw a starbucks across the street, and was thinking of grabbing one of those iTunes music cards that they’re giving away. It was directly across from me, but there was a lot of active traffic. I turned back to walk down the sidewalk, and not fifty feet away was another Starbucks on my side. I could literally stand at one Starbucks, and throw stuff and hit the other one. And, they were both big Starbucks. Neither was the tiny “closet with a counter” stores.

  22. humphrmi says:

    I can’t help but think of all the capital Starbucks wasted opening all these useless redundant stores to begin with.

  23. drjayphd says:

    I forget the intersection, but somewhere in Vancouver: two Starbucks enter, one Starbucks leaves. Whose cuisine reigns supreme?

  24. @S3CT: Seriously? Take that shit to Ain’t It Cool News.

    @chucklebuck: You’re not alone there. I don’t go to Starbucks regularly enough to be recognized, but I’ve seen baristas smile and call out to their customers by name…sometimes by their usual order! If that’s not customer service, someone please tell me what is.

  25. @samurailynn: Starbucks’ negative impact on the local coffee shop is a myth. Consider this scenario: you have a choice between a Starbucks and a delicious indie shop next door. Which do you enter?

    Starbucks has done great things for the industry. Perhaps their greatest contribution was, all at once, attracting new drinkers and giving them an “evil” corporation to hate.

  26. Joe says:

    @drjayphd:

    Robson and Thurlow (?) 2 Starbucks across the street from each other – I believe there was an indie coffee shop (cafe) on one of the remaining corners

  27. fever says:

    Finally.

  28. donkeyjote says:

    They are trying to avoid the mind blowing situations of having a Starbucks across from a Starbucks… Only the redundantly redundant Starbuckes will be closed.

  29. TWinter says:

    People like to make fun of the stores across the street from each other, but it was actually a good idea when they first did it. Adding stores in really high traffic areas improved sales because it shortened lines at the already existing store and more people bought Starbucks instead of leaving because of the lines. I think the problem was that they took an idea that worked well in some places and started applying it to areas that just didn’t have quite enough traffic, and so they started to cannibalized themselves.

  30. AgentTuttle says:

    I guess people are trading their java for texas tea. (gas prices). But that’ll learn ‘em for opening stores within pissing distance. As for the lost jobs, it was inevitable due to over saturation. Sorry.

  31. consumersaur says:

    Won’t somebody please think of the baristas!? The baristas!!

    Are we really sure society is prepared for scores of unemployed smug faux hipsters running around? What will happen to the cultural tapestry if we, as consumers, aren’t subsidizing ironic facial hair and plastic rimmed fashion glasses?!

  32. howie_in_az says:

    Sucks for the people out of work, especially in this economy. I hope they have skills other than coffee-making.

  33. ConorRyan says:

    Lewis Black must be having a field day with this news:

  34. That's What She Said says:

    Has anybody heard that Lewis Black bit about the end of the universe being the Starbucks that is across the street from the other Starbucks? So funny. And the funniest thing is, that bit is based on a real situation in Houston, Texas, where, there is in fact a Starbucks across the street from another Starbucks. I used to sometimes go to one in the morning, and then the other one in the evening. I could pick and choose depending on my mood. So sad. So ridiculous.

    [www.gergltd.com]

  35. ConorRyan says:

    Lewis Black must be having a field day with this:

  36. @bl8675309: I’ve got two right across the street from each other at 8817 and 8844 S. Sepulveda. I’m taking bets on which will close first: the one on the way TO the airport, or the one on the way FROM the airport?

    [www.starbucks.com]

  37. attheotherbeach says:

    7-11 coffee sucks. So does DD. So does McD’s.

    Starbucks opens stores across the street because studies have shown that eastbound drivers won’t turn around for a westbound coffee shop. Happens to indies as well.

    Sorry to see so many losing their jobs.

    And to all you “indies are the best” haters: Go suck a coffee bean, bitches.

  38. Nancy Sin says:

    @attheotherbeach: Sounds like someone just got laid off…

  39. FMFats says:

    The Edgewood Retail District, a mixed use development in Atlanta featuring a Lowe’s, a Best Buy, and other big box stores, has a Starbucks inside Kroger, a Starbucks inside Barnes and Noble, a Starbucks inside Target, and a free standing Starbucks. Nuff said.

  40. u1itn0w2day says:

    Hey,Starbucks had a nice run,treated their employees better than many and prooved you could have a movie star latte in places other than LA.

    BUT,the average American consumer doesn’t make the LA movie star money.Instead on improving their offerings to include a cheaper menu Starbucks simply got greedy and saturated the market.They gorged on the yuppie scum wanna bes whose reality has set in.Throw in some good old fashion competition and you almost have a flash in the pan.Said it before,Starbucks is to coffee as what Krispy Kreme is to donuts:they had their run,were they over priced and are now struggling for their share.

    What part of it’s really only a dollars worth of coffee don’t they get.GOOD LUCK to the employees who lost their jobs.They can thank the greedy execs for both their employement AND unemployement.

  41. skahead says:

    I have 4 within the same mall… and its a small mall…

  42. Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon. says:

    Woo Woo! All aboard the bankruptcy train!

    Starbucks…the SUV of coffee….

  43. pixiegirl1 says:

    And yet they are building # 4 near me. But don’t fret if one of the 3 in my town isn’t up to par you can go down 2 miles and have your selection of 2 more at the mall it’s a outdoor mall so naturally they need one on each side. Gee I can’t imagine why they are closing any?! lol

  44. Shmonkmonk says:

    Okay, so how many of you actually go to Starbucks? Not many I’m guessing. The hipster baristas you guys are all hating on… yeah, they left the company like 7-5 years ago when the company started to get too big. They either got “real” jobs or now works for the idie mom and pop coffee shops. Want to know why indie shops taste better? They got their training from Starbucks. If you go into your average Starbucks now, they look just like you and me.
    I think a lot of people in this forum are just spitting out tired cliches. How ignorant. I for one, miss the hipsters. They took pride in their work and the drinks were great.

    Oh, and hate to burst anyone’s bubble but the Starbucks that are right across the street from another Starbucks- they’re probably staying. My guess is that they’re planning on closing suburban Starbucks that are in neighborhoods effected the most by the whole housing debacle.

  45. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    600? That’s 8% of their US stores. That’s a lot of lease penalties to eat.

  46. jenniferrose76 says:

    I used to work for a very small chain of coffee/bagel shops in New England, and there was a period of time where Starbucks was opening stores across from or next to pretty much every store my company owned.It was annoying and discouraging, as the novelty of Starbucks detracted from our business so much that ir forced us to close several of our stores.
    But now there is one in the city I live in, and they seriously placed it in the worst possible location, which kind of amuses me.

  47. ChuckECheese says:

    @consumersaur: What’s the opposite of a faux hipster, a vrai hipster? Contrast and discuss (7 points).

  48. gjaluvka says:

    Yeah, it may be a high % but I have to think this might have been reasonably foreseen in their business model. Build, accelerate, etc. Even after they reach this point they’ve plundered gosh knows how many potential competitors by leasing their space.

    Starbucks won’t even feel it. It’s a correction.

  49. Triborough says:

    600? That is a good start. Just about 3 billion to go.

  50. attheotherbeach says:

    @del_ruby: Sorry, chuckles. Never worked coffee. Counting my millions… you?

  51. EdnaLegume says:

    I only know of three starbucks in my area, one attached to Barnes and Noble, the other two in Targets and I never hit the Target ones, but the other I only go to for their Lemon Pound Cake.

  52. Mr_Human says:

    @Michael Belisle: Exactly. Starbucks built the market. There weren’t too many indie coffee houses to begin with — at least not in NYC; it just wasn’t done. Starbucks (and frankly, I don’t like their coffee. I like _my_ coffee) invigorated a moribund/practically nonexistent industry.

  53. atypicalxian says:

    @AgentTuttle: You’re dead on.

  54. Juliekins says:

    @Michael Belisle:

    Consider this scenario: you have a choice between a Starbucks and a delicious indie shop next door. Which do you enter?

    (This may sound combative, it’s not directed specifically at you, Michael.) Honestly? The Starbucks. My nearest Starbucks is within three blocks of three or four local coffeeshops. I’ve stopped hitting the locals. You want smug douchebag baristas who size you up to see if you’re hip enough to drink their inconsistently prepared lattes? Hit the local joints in my neighborhood. I can assure you I lack the required piercings and ink to darken their dingy doors.

    When I go to Starbucks I don’t get the snotty once-over, it doesn’t take 15 minutes to make my drink, I don’t get any guff for paying with plastic, and the one time I had trouble with a drink (one of the sugar-free Mochas, aka “satan’s latte”) they took it back and prepared a new one for me and were really nice about it. My local store has employees that have been there a long time and seem to care about doing a good job.

    It’s all kind of a moot point anyway. Starbucks is kind of my “emergency break glass” coffee shop these days. I’m a big fan of the (still a chain, but less ubiquitous) Dunn Bros. They roast their beans in the store, and while their drink prices are slightly higher, they have a customer loyalty program so I get free beans or drinks every now and again.

  55. lalaland13 says:

    Holy crap I can tell I live in the South, becauseI don’t have 30 within a mile of my house or anything. There’s one in the town I work in, one in the town I live in. That’s it. Granted, not huge towns, but I still like going in there every once in a while, though. It’s difficult, though, partly because of the gas thing and it’s harder to feel OK about a $4 cup of wussie coffee (I drink the wussie coffe, yes, although not a lot of it). It’s a nice treat every now and again, though, and I’ll be curious to see if they close some down here or if they close the oversaturated markets. I would guess they’d still be doing pretty well down here, but maybe not.

    I went there all the time in college. The college bookstore had one, and my senior year me and my best friend would go there after class and spend too much money on coffee and sandwiches. Then the town got a stand-alone, and all the collegians were all, “Dude screw that! Stick with (indie coffee store)!” What happened? They all started going to Starbucks.

  56. synergy says:

    I feel sorry for all the people losing their jobs, but the Starbucks building was just way out of control. I hope those laid off will find something else soon…

  57. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    Starbucks does not dominate in Canada and competes against the Tim Hortons and Second Cup chains. I’m surprised that Starbucks has no major competitor in the USA – and please don’t say Dunkin Donuts – its a completely different market.

  58. ian937262 says:

    critical mass

  59. The dredge of society must close 600 stores. How many more stores are left? Couple 10,000?

    Yep, I no like Starbucks.

  60. wildness says:

    @ConorRyan: Thanks for the insight – this must be what convinced Starbucks that there are too many Starbucks (but, not enough blond Starbucks, of which there should be one per man).

  61. homerjay says:

    @attheotherbeach: Counting your millions…. Pfft. That comment alone justifies the banhammer.

  62. petitcerise says:

    Well someone is drinking Starbucks still because they are always packed in my city. Why all the hate? @FitJulie: I don’t like the locals either. I went to a popular local coffe shop and asked for a nonfat mocha and I heard the barista ask the other if they had skim milk and she said “Just give her whole milk”. Hello! I was right there. I’ve also had someone make me a mocha with powdered cocoa mix. I could go on. Starbucks makes my coffee just the way I like no matter where I go. I have an espresso maker to make mochas at home which I use some time. But I’ll take my lunch to work every day if it means not sacrificing my mocha frappuccino.

  63. varro says:

    “Hurry up, kid – this place is turning into a Starbucks.”

    There’s a Starbucks inside the Safeway on the SE corner of NE MLK and Ainsworth in NE Portland….and catty-corner on the NW corner.

    Starbucks closing in redundant areas like that might help indie coffeeshops, just like Starbucks closing Torrefazione and Coffee People (after hanging on to them for a while) opened the field up for indies (like Caffe Viale in the lobby of the building where bankruptcy court is in Portland).

  64. varro says:

    @consumersaur: The truly smug in Portland will gravitate to Stumptown, while the poseurs will panhandle for money for white belts, PBR, and American Spirits.

  65. hoffmeister_hoff says:

    Although this is a good first step, I’m not so sure that closing 1/100th of 1% of their stores is going to have much of an impact. A lot of shopping malls seem to easily have 500-600 Starbucks.

  66. donkeyjote says:

    And everyone worried about jobs, don’t worry. Don’t you know, investors will buy the old stores, and turn them independents, with an established location for coffee. People used to starbucks will go to the new place because it’s at the same place they always go.

    Even then, any new store in that location will need employees. Its not job loss if it balances out in the end.

  67. beatofhawaii.com says:

    Too bad about the 12000 employees. As others have said, who didn’t see this one coming. They lost their winning business model years ago and it is surprising it took this look for it to catch up with them. Kind of like the U.S. car companies.

  68. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    @donkeyjote: Starbucks is closing unprofitable stores … & it’s unlikely that an independent in the same location will do the same volume of business.

  69. ngth says:

    YAY! So maybe one or more of the four Starbucks that i see on my 1.5 mile trip to work will shutdown.

  70. legwork says:

    That’s a s-load of baristas!

    For comparison, Chrysler’s closing of their recently modernized St. Louis plant is expected to hit 2400 workers.

    One announcement of five auto-plants closing would send the financial talking-heads into a panic. Oh, wait. They’re already there.

  71. @FitJulie: What I meant to say (instead of accidentally triggering the anti-indie reflex) is that nobody actually likes Starbucks. People buy coffee there because there’s one on every corner (a la “enter in case of emergency”) and it’s fast (because the baristas just push buttons). They build them across the street from each other because crossing is just too much effort for mediocre cappuccino.

    Maybe I should have asked “There’s an intersection with a Starbucks, a Caribou Coffee, a Dunn Bros. and an Intelligentsia. Who’ll be voted off the corner first?”

  72. Proto_Man says:

    This is always been a part of the Starbucks master plan: saturate a market, then pull out most of the stores when there’s little alternative. The economy just expedited things a little bit, I still think they’ll be ok.

  73. doctor_cos wants you to remain calm says:

    @Shmonkmonk: If it were 12000 telemarketers, would it be okay?

    @attheotherbeach: “bitches” ?? Peet’s kicks the beans right out of whorebucks. Any day of the week. Go back to your flavored syrupy drink and I will go back to my COFFEE.

    @drjayphd: StarbucksDome ??

  74. gjaluvka says:

    @Michael Belisle: My inlaws like Starbucks. Go figure, but They somehow believe that it’s got an inherently superior quality. I can’t explain it, but they do exist.

  75. Jim says:

    So, while I realize that not all 12,000 employees are employees of the 600 stores, that’s still 200 employees per store. I didn’t realize how enormous Starbucks was! Either they were doomed to fail with such a ratio, or the survivors just got a LOT of work dumped on their desks to pick up the slack.

  76. TWinter says:

    @Jim: Check your math – 12,000/600 = 20. 20 employees per store seems pretty reasonable.

  77. meg9 says:

    The gap used to be like that around manhattan. It was EVERYWHERE.

    My local starbucks (dupont circle) is a 5 minute walk from at least 4 other starbucks (and a 1 minute walk from 1 other starbucks)

    And that is a bit much.

  78. pastabatman says:

    @donkeyjote:

    jobs, maybe. benefits? no way.

    I actually think this has less to do with starbucks coffee and saturation but more to with ye olde recession. or at least a combo of both.

    starbucks has got to be the very first thing on most people’s list of expenditure cuts when time get’s tighter.

  79. EllaMcWho says:

    @Shmonkmonk et al.: News this morning reported that the majority of employees would be transferred to other locations where customer traffic is expected to increase due to the closures. Though the news said ‘most’, I would guess less than half the 12,000 employees referenced will hit the job market.

  80. skatastrophe says:

    @S3CT: Banned!

  81. ShariC says:

    I love how people think this is about seeing a coffee franchise they don’t like losing business rather than focusing on the jobs that are being lost. The world revolves around all of you and your petty need to see Starbucks fail, doesn’t it? It must be great to be the center of the universe.

    Those of you hiding you schaudenfreude behind comments that state that this might be good for independent shops can’t possibly be so naive as to believe this reflects anything except higher prices across the board and a need to jettison luxuries like eating out and having someone else make your coffee for you. Everyone loses.

  82. WalrusTaco says:

    In my class at business school a consultant working for SB came and had a special “contest” where we would suggest improvements for SB and he would go and “personally” tell the CEO of SB what we had said and if we were lucky the CEO would “implement” our suggestions. My suggestions for the SB’s in NYC?

    -restrooms smell like a sewage pit
    -your coffee sucks
    -your prices suck
    -your baristas are rude
    -your baristas are poorly trained
    -the store smells like burnt sandwiches
    -you’ve watered down your brand
    -you push out local businesses
    -not enough fair trade coffee
    -wireless is expensive

    Now people will lose their jobs because SB management got too greedy. And yes, there are literally 200+ SB’s in a 5-mile radius in Manhattan.

  83. consumersaur says:

    @varro: Good point. This will just condense the hipster quotient, weeding out the truly unsmug. It’s a consolidation of power, really.

  84. attheotherbeach says:

    @WalrusTaco: And all 200 are always busy. My former midtown office had 5 within a block and they always had lines.

  85. harvey_birdman_attorney_at_law says:

    @homerjay:

    I thought it was a busload of n*****s?

    :outraged:

  86. MonkeyMonk says:

    I’ll fess up to *loving* Starbucks Coffee. Call the “burnt” flavor what you will but I personally think it’s yummy. I walk into town nearly every day and get a hot Americano in the winter and an iced Americano in the summer. I get a venti and have never paid more than about $2.50 for a cup. The barristas have all been there for 4+ years and everyone is friendly and knows everyone else by name.

    There’s an indie shop in town as well and, although I’ve tried them, I think Starbucks makes a much better Americano.

  87. alumicor says:

    This really shouldn’t suprise anyone with the price of gas who can afford 5 bux for a cup of coffee?

  88. Nissan288 says:

    God, I just remember in portland Pioneer Place Mall and how there’s a Starbucks 2 floors above a Starbucks at ground level…

  89. TVGenius says:

    For years our only Starbucks was inside our Barnes and Noble. Then they opened one in a grocery store across town. Within a year, there was one with a drive through across the street. They also put one in a Target across town, and another one in the same shopping center. Now they’re building a drive-through across the street from those two. And there’s a drive-through a block from the Barnes and Noble now.

  90. crescentia says:

    This is what happens when you over saturate a market with a product in which people do not buy when they are broke.

  91. Bobg says:

    I still like Peets better. Their French Roast beans are black as coal and oily. (Yum) When you drink a cup of Peets French Roast you don’t sleep for days.

  92. Snookie says:

    I gotta say I saw this coming. We have a Target store in town that has a Starbucks inside the store AND in the parking lot! There were just too many Starbucks. I remember years ago when several McDonald’s stores closed because there were just too many of them.

  93. homerjay says:
  94. incognit000 says:

    They exanded too much, too fast, too soon, presuming that everyone in America would be unable to go through life without a $5-a-cup thing of coffee every morning.

    I don’t drink coffee. And most people I know who do own a coffee maker, and they use that. The more they like coffee, the more expensive and advanced their coffee maker.

    Seriously, at $5 a go, is there any worthwhile cofee maker you couldn’t buy within a year? And then you wouldn’t have to worry that the overworked, underpaid, poorly-trained teenager behind the counter would screw up your insanely complex and pointless order.

  95. Eryk says:

    Can’t be surprised about this – almost every other poster above has mentioned it one way or another. Expensive drinks that you get daily eventually were going to become old hat, especially when we have soaring gas/food prices and very few cost of living adjustments.

    Turns out having a working automobile is more important than having your double mocha espresso cappuccino with a twist, daily.

    Feel bad for the workers though.

  96. mariospants says:

    I love Starbucks, and because we haven’t hit over-saturation point in Canada (but we’re getting a mite too many Tim Hortons) I’d be sad to see them go.

    Nice driving down the 95 to Florida and seeing a Starbucks sign, btw.

  97. mariospants says:

    I read stuff like this:

    “Seriously, at $5 a go, is there any worthwhile cofee maker you couldn’t buy within a year? And then you wouldn’t have to worry that the overworked, underpaid, poorly-trained teenager behind the counter would screw up your insanely complex and pointless order.”

    and obviously some people just don’t get the point. You go to Starbucks with your buddies to relax and hang. You can’t hang in a fucking Dunkin’ Donuts. Not without feeling like a sleeze, anyway. Also, the kind of drinks I like cost pretty much the same as a milkshake, the employees are generally great people and hardly ever “poorly-trained” and even if your order is slightly complex (it’s part of the fun and up to the customer, btw) they make up for it if it’s screwed up.

  98. Catalyst says:

    @mariospants: I have never once gone into a Starbucks to “hang.” Same thing with Barnes & Noble, or any other conceivable place hipsters can go to blog on their Mac Book Air.

    Starbucks Co. = Krispy Kreme Co. Overextended, overpriced, underperforming product.

    To quote Agnes Skinner, “buy something and get out!”

  99. m.ravian says:

    @AmberFromAr:
    i worked at one of those two starbucks in Houston for a year. the one on the north side of West Gray. there was a comedy club a few doors down, i can only imagine Louis Black was there and saw the two starbucks.

  100. drjayphd says:

    @Catalyst: That’s you. That wouldn’t be everyone. Especially in my circle of friends, with nary a MacBook between us, when we just wanted some coffee after mini-golfing.

    So yeah, again with people assuming that just because they don’t do something, anyone who does is a dickbag. Par for the course here, although it’s nice to see Ben doing something about one breed of abusive commenters (see: recent Geek Squad post).

  101. drjayphd says:

    @doctor_cos: Maybe, but I was thinking more Iron Barista. Mark Dascacos would need to evict TGI Fridays from atop one of the Starbucks to have Kitchen Stadium, alas.

    @Joe: Really? Don’t remember an indie place offhand, although this was maybe 10-15 years ago. Streets sound familiar, though.

    @FitJulie: Were I closer to West Hartford, I’d consider It’s A Grind. They’re a chain, though, so if any of the Starbucks due to be closed are in CT, I’d suggest they move in because I’m sick of having to drive up to Blueback (There’s Only One L, People; “Blueblack” Is A Hair Dye Color, Get It Right, Assholes) Square for ‘em. ;)

    @IfThenElvis: Whither Coffee Time? Forget the site, but there’s one devoted entirely to knock-offs of more famous brands (as in the “Stars & Bucks” Morgan Spurlock mentioned on Conan O’Brien last night) and Coffee Time copycats had their own section. O.o

    @donkeyjote: We can only hope. The market abhors a vacuum, yes? Unless it’s one of them cursed business locations that’s seen about 300 stores, all in different industries, pass through and go under in the last week and a half.

    @alumicor y @Eryk: Pretty much. As enumerated in a post here a while back, and didn’t Schultz say as much when he returned to the CEO post?

    @ShariC: Well, this is Consumerist, where success isn’t measured in how many followers you have, but how much of a douchenozzle you can be to strangers in a relatively anonymous forum on the Intertubes…

  102. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    @drjayphd:
    Coffee Time is a poor man’s Dunkin Donuts. They have dumpy locations and according to an article a few years back focus not on coffee but on selling franchises with low up front to immigrants with dreams. When the franchisee can’t make the payments they just resell the location to the next in line.

  103. There's room to move as a fry cook says:

    @drjayphd:
    Here is the copycat site you mentioned:
    [www.notfoolinganybody.com]

  104. snuggleboo says:

    What people don’t realize is that any time you see a ‘bucks in a grocery store or Target, it isn’t a real Starbucks. The company has licensed the brand to those companies. Many stores are opened not because Starbucks said so, but because Target said so. Anyone else think it’s a bad idea to dilute your brand with a store full of employees you can’t approve or train?

  105. doctor_cos wants you to remain calm says:

    @drjayphd: IronBarista hosted by William Shatner on FoodHD ??
    sweeeeeeeeeet.