Is Kmart Selling Abstinence Pants?

Kmart has been catching some flack for selling young girls’ pants that bear the message “True Love Waits” on the front and back, reports TheBuzz Blog. According to their description, “These athletic pants boldly proclaim just where she stands by pointing out that “True Love Waits” in a large screen print on the front and back of these pants.” More, inside…

The BuzzBlog said,

A spokeswoman for Sears Holdings Corp., which owns Kmart, told The Buzz the pants have absolutely nothing to do with taking any kind of position, either way, on abstinence. “It was not associated with any group or any cause,” said Amy Dimond. “It was just a graphic put on the pants.”

Piper & Blue, Kmart’s private label brand, designed the sweatpants as part of its summer collection that hit stores in late April.

Although the pants were not designed to make a statement, Dimond admitted that “there may be some (customers) who made the (abstinence association), but it was not the intention.”

Dimond added that the sweatpants are going on markdown and a lot of the inventory has already sold through.

Perhaps this Feministing commenter said it best, “Because nothing says ‘I plan not to have sex until marriage’ like plastering text across your ass.”

Kmart: pants not meant for abstinence [TheBuzz Blog]

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  1. B says:

    All sweat pants are abstinence pants, at least when worn in public.

  2. TheDude06 says:

    It reads more like “true love awaits” then “/true/ love, waits.” to me.

  3. opfreak says:

    and if the pants were pushing ‘abstinence’ would there be anything wrong with that?

    or are the only acceptable pants these days ones that push being easy and loose.

  4. Bladefist says:

    Well thats because thats where all the guys are looking.

  5. Rajio says:

    Who gives a crap

  6. opsomath says:

    “true love waits” is a common slogan among, for instance, baptist youth group thingies. several girls I went to high school with had rings with it engraved. (presumably you swap it for a wedding ring at some point? couldn’t tell you.)

    that being said, why is it a bad thing that k-mart would sell something with that slogan? is it worse, than, say, “your boyfriend wants me?”

  7. What’s the big deal, even if the intended message was ‘no premarital sex’? The girl wearing them has a right to express any non-vulger message she wants to (no matter how uninteresting it may be). I could see people being upset if the print said ‘Insert here…‘, but this? C’mon!

  8. hi says:

    When you wear sweatpants with text across your arse you’re not looking for ‘true love’, it’s more like a one night stand, hense the text ‘true love waits’.

  9. Bladefist says:

    @opsomath: Because morals are dead in America. And the liberal media is appalled that right wing nut jobs are against young girls getting the impression that sex at age 13 is normal.

  10. Juggernaut says:

    I’ll be waiting right over here…

  11. MissPeacock says:

    @B: HA! I actually laughed out loud at this.

  12. DeepFriar says:

    They’re gonna be waiting a whole lot longer after all the cool guys starting going out with the easy chicks.
    /it’s true

  13. fishing-ace says:

    I dont know why the consumerist is making this an issue. I’d much rather see a positive message on a pair of pants like this, than a pair of pants that says “do me i’m a slut”

  14. MissPeacock says:

    I wonder if they will be releasing a similar version for teenage boys. Oh wait. Of course not.

  15. ironchef says:
  16. choinski says:

    How does ‘read my crotch’ promote abstinance?

  17. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    BTW: The feministing link just goes to their home page. The comment is here: [feministing.com]

    This is dumb but then plastering text across your butt won’t look smart no matter what it says.

  18. rwakelan says:

    @Bladefist: The last study I saw on it says the average age that today’s teenagers loose their virginity is 14.9 (if I remember correctly)… so 13 isn’t that far off.

  19. Rectilinear Propagation says:

    Then again, maybe the pants really are just supposed to be funny.

  20. MeOhMy says:

    First people whine about slutty slogans now they whine about non-slutty slogans. Can we at least get a consensus either way?

    I’m honestly a little freaked at the “It’s just a graphic we put on the pants” excuse. This is the same halfassed “Just silkscreen whatever you think looks trendy and hip onto the garment” mentality that brought us the Totenkopf t-shirts. You can almost understand the totenkopf, but the slogan on these pants is written in plain English. If you’re not going to read, understand and STAND BEHIND what you put on your product, then don’t put it on there!

  21. wgrune says:

    @B:

    Comment of the day. Nicely played.

  22. Angryrider says:

    The pants gave me a little chuckle. Why bother getting attacked over “abstinence?” It’s not as bad as selling Nazi shirts.

  23. Catebb says:

    Of all the silly things to take issue with! There are hotpants out there sized for preschoolers with slogans like “Too Sexy” and people rarely bat an eye.

  24. Truvill says:

    [www.birkoph.com]

    If this shirt can encourage promiscuity without any words, then NOTHING is safe.

  25. Bladefist says:

    @rwakelan: And I would bet a ton of money that every decade, that age drops.

    This is a sore subject for me. It’s all about the de-moralization of America. When you have people criticizing a company for making pants that promote a abstinence, then you know you live in a troubled society.

    If you are complaining about these pants, shame on you. I will laugh at you when your daughters are whores. Because I believe these pants are for young girls. You are not going to see 25 year old women wearing these pants, unless its for a joke.

  26. MameDennis says:

    @Bladefist:
    Pants with an abstinance message written on the ass. You seriously don’t see the irony here?

  27. sean_h says:

    Uh, yeah. When my niece grows up you can be damned sure that I’d rather her wearing these pants than a pair that says “SLUT” across the ass. I honestly don’t see the problem here.

  28. MissPeacock says:

    @Bladefist: I agree that teen sex is a problem and the age when most kids lose their virginity is shocking to me, but I guess my main problem is that keeping one’s virginity intact is something that is geared more toward girls. Why do you say you will laugh when someone’s daughter is a whore? What about the boys she is sleeping with? Do they not bear any responsibility or chastising? Are they not also whores?

  29. Bladefist says:

    @MameDennis: No. If it was written on the chest, well, then you would say the same.

  30. sgodun says:

    My response to this is……. So?

  31. Bladefist says:

    @MissPeacock: You raise good points. In our society, it’s always been placed on the girls. Quite frankly, unless your son wants to live the spiritual life, boys will be boys. So you talk to them, you do the best you can. If these were for boys, I’d say the same thing. You dont have to buy them. You dont have to wear them. But I’ve seen this story everywhere, and people are all freakin out.

  32. Gopher bond says:

    Ugh, I can’t stand printing across the butt. It draws the eyes and the next thing you realize, you’re staring at some 14 year old’s rear end and feel dirty inside.

  33. AD8BC says:

    Hey, why not have abstinence pants?

    Places sell plenty of clothes that make girls look like sluts. These are for the anti-sluts.

    As Glenn Beck calls it, we are dressing our little girls like “Prosti-tots”

  34. Bladefist says:

    BTW – I’m 24 and a huge perv. But I am absoltely disgusted with America on the teen-sex issue. And I’m not some nut job who is going to blame music. But, I will say it’s a combination of a lot things, including, all you who believe ‘it’s just not a big deal’. Teen pregnancy is through the roof, aids is always of course gaining momentum. And until someone can step up and be a good parent, be an adult, and say, “Hey, our kids need to stop having sex” this country will turn into some 3rd world nation.

  35. MameDennis says:

    @Bladefist:
    Look, I don’t have a problem with the message. I just think it’s hilariously funny that the pants are communicating both “I’m saving myself” and “Look at my ass”.

  36. Asvetic says:

    That’s definitely Radiohead band merch/clothing.

  37. Bladefist says:

    @MameDennis: I can see your point. But I just see that the ass location is where a lot of retailers are putting logos and such, and I guess it’s demoralized me. A clothed ass is just as exciting as a clothed rest of the body. It kinda catches your attention, but after you see it so much, I don’t even notice anymore.

  38. rexr says:

    @Asvetic:

    i thought the same thing soon as i read it…

    i went to kmart for my waste shirt… that would be scary

  39. MissPeacock says:

    @Bladefist: Well, quite frankly, unless girls are going to live the spiritual life, girls will be girls, and that does include having sex. They have sex drives, too. Like I said, I’m no fan of teen sex either, but to say “boys will be boys” and leave it at that, and then call the girls they are sleeping with “whores,” is really unfair. Having said that, if I had children of either gender, I would strongly STRONGLY impress upon them the need to wait as long as possible, with or without their abstinence pants on. (Ha, no pun intended.)

  40. Sanveann says:

    I personally don’t have an issue with the pants. I do think the irony of having “true love waits” plastered across the bum is rather amusing, but if Kmart wants to sell them, I have no problem with that.

    What DOES disturb me is the “it was just a graphic” excuse. Seriously? Why not just put some random words on there then? “Spaghetti giraffe hammer,” for example. I have zero issue with the store selling the pants, and I doubt most people would, either — so why the lame excuse?

  41. skipjack says:

    I suppose the better option would have been “I love abortions.” That way, consumerist would have had a reason to praise k-mart.

  42. Wormfather says:

    Amy Dimond so sounds like a stripper name.

    Yeah, who said I had to be relevant.

  43. Jesse says:

    @Bladefist:

    A lot of it too has to do with the 1) Failure by kids to realize there are consequences for their actions 2) lack of personal responsibility and 3) Lack of good parenting skills.

    Many parents are simply not setting a good example for their kids. I’m not saying that parents need to be super moral or do anything extreme to raise kids. But they do need to take their role seriously and it’s not happening.

  44. Bladefist says:

    @MissPeacock: After I said boys will be boys, I said talk with them, etc. I didn’t mean to imply “boys will be boys, so use trying”

    However, and I’m not a father, but I’ve been a boyfriend, girls are much better at maintaining abstinence. Dont know why, how. Not saying it’s fair. But if you flipped roles, our population will triple next week.

  45. TheDude06 says:

    Teen pregnacy rates in the US peaked in the early 90s, and have been on a downward trend since. Careful before you fearmonger!

  46. Bladefist says:

    @Jesse: Right – I blame the parents by saying, most parents are too selfish. Too self involved with their own work, hobbies, and friends. The devotion to ones kids seems to be disappearing. I know my mother, when I was born, I and my brothers were here life. She quit her job, she stayed home with us. She raised us. She sacrificed her life, to raise some good boys. Thats parenthood. If you cant do that, dont have kids. It’s real easy.

  47. Wormfather says:

    @fishing-ace: If you could point me in the direction of the girl with those pants on, kthnx.

  48. Jabberkaty says:

    Next, they should make a shirt that says “real men look women in the eye” plastered right across the boobs. Or “you’re a perv” across the butt. Hilarity ensues.

  49. Bladefist says:

    @TheDude06: Downward, upward, Whatever. i’d have to see your data, and I probably still wouldn’t believe it. Thats hard to data to gather.

    Regardless of the direction, the number is still way too high.

  50. MissPeacock says:

    @Bladefist: After I said boys will be boys, I said talk with them, etc. I didn’t mean to imply “boys will be boys, so use trying”

    Okay, I didn’t catch that.

  51. Hmmm, I lost my virginity at 13 and became proudly became a genuine whore when I was 31. If only these pants had been around back then.

  52. cronomorph says:

    Yeah, text across the butt just screams “Look at my ass!” no matter what it says.

    However, I don’t see a problem with pants that have an abstinence message. No one does anything but grumble about the pants and shirts that proclaim sluttiness, but pants that have an opposite message become a news story.

  53. girly says:

    Rather than trying to call attention to the rear end, I kind of see a message like this as ‘if you are going to look there I’ll take the opportunity to shoot down any ideas you might have’

    That being said the text does call attention from people who wouldn’t normally look. But the people who normally wouldn’t look aren’t much to worry about.

    With the predators out there I don’t even think it’s a good idea to advertise that belief.

  54. Amnesiac85 says:

    @Asvetic: Definitely Radiohead merch.

  55. TWinter says:

    @Troy F.: I’ll give you a consensus – text across a girls ass looks slutty, whorish, and utterly tasteless no matter what the text says.

  56. badgeman46 says:

    Talk about left wing hypocrisy! I see nasty short shorts with “bootyliscious” and “ho” and stuff walking around all the time, and rarely have I heard any outcry. Yet somehow abstinence is offensive? P.S. is that text on the front over the crotch on those gray pants? Thats way over the top! Hah.

  57. Juggernaut says:

    “Spaghetti giraffe hammer,” FTW!!!

  58. turi319 says:

    those must be really heavy duty drawstrings

  59. TMMadman says:

    @alphafemale: How you doin’?

    I bet a pair of sweatpants that said ‘Penis goes here’ on the butt probably wouldn’t even get noticed.

  60. Youthier says:

    @MissPeacock: I agree it’s not fair but I think the virginity thing is pushed on girls b/c if there’e a lack of birth control or it fails, they’re paying for the abortion or pushing the kid out after 9 months. Nature just dictates there are higher consequences for females.

    Back on topic, I see the irony but… whatever. It’s hardly a worse message than some of the trashy messages on preteens shirts.

  61. syndprod says:

    @Juggernaut: Too bad Gawker Media got out of the t-shirt biz. I’d totally wear a Consumerist shirt with “Spaghetti giraffe hammer” on it. Or, actually, sweatpants with that on the back.

  62. Parting says:

    They look very cheesy. At worst, any sweatpants is a good way to stay sex-free ;)

  63. maines19 says:

    @Jabberkaty: If somebody makes that T-shirt that says “real men look women in the eye,” I know a lot of women who would buy it and wear it.

    Overall, I’m amazed at all the attention these pants have been getting. Seems to me that having the choice to have sex includes having the choice not to. And if someone wants to plaster their choice one way or another across their ass, so what?

  64. SacraBos says:

    Personally, I think the ThinkGeek “403 Forbidden” HTTPanties send a stronger message. But if you’re at the point of seeing panties, abstinence probably isn’t a concern…

    @fishing-ace: Sad thing, I’ve seen some awfully young women wearing the “Porn Star” T-shirts. That’s pretty close.

    I have two daughters. I’m going to be the Dad that happens to be cleaning his gun collection when the boyfriend first visits.

  65. laserjobs says:

    When will girls figure out that the one who put out have the most fun and get invited to all the parties?

  66. It’s funny that you see all these skanky sweat pants out there and nobody is complaining. Yeah, like I really want to see Juicy on some girl’s ass. Whatever.
    But, when a company comes out with sweat pants on the opposite end of the spectrum, non-skanky, then the complaining starts.
    Some people need a life.

  67. JessicaFeministing says:

    Sure it has nothing to do with abstinence. I guess that’s why part of the description of the pants (right after “drawstring waist”) is “Bold abstinence screen print.”

  68. Coelacanth says:

    @badgeman46: I’m pretty left-leaning, and no matter what the saying happens to be, if it’s written across somebody’s sexual organs, then it’s tasteless. I don’t want to be staring at anyone’s private parts simply because human beings are curious to read what’s written some place.

    If you want to combat the problem of pregnancy, underaged sex, and whatnot, then just get over the taboo and realise it for what it is – not that big of deal. The obsession will disappear percipitously.

  69. Wait, K-mart’s own web site describes it as a “Bold abstinence screen print”

    [www.kmart.com]

  70. @Bladefist: Downward, upward, Whatever. i’d have to see your data, and I probably still wouldn’t believe it. Thats hard to data to gather.

    You’re a bit cranky today, huh? And by cranky I mean, “(having the characteristics of)a person who holds some belief which the vast majority of his contemporaries would consider false” as opposed to “bad-tempered”.
    [en.wikipedia.org])

  71. scooterist says:

    Seriously, this whole freaking country needs to lighten up a bit. I don’t know if the complainers and the wonderful people at feministing.com (who I am sure have a nice balanced view of everything in the world) have noticed, but these are

    just
    frigging
    sweatpants
    from K-MART!!!
    (with a dopey graphic on them).

    The pants are not meant as a political statement that John McCain is running on, or something that Bill O’Reilly is pushing on his show.

    One more time…

    just
    frigging
    K-Mart sweatpants

    Good grief.

    I doubt that most of the people that are buying them in K-Mart have the reading levels to understand the slogan anyway. (that’s a joke people, a joke)

  72. ajacs says:

    @Troy F.: I (for once) agree with Troy. An abstinence message on the ass of a 12 year old girl is no more offensive than a slutty message on the ass of a 12 year old girl, but companies shouldn’t write messages on the asses of 12 year old girls without at least understanding what they’re writing.

  73. Bladefist says:

    @alphafemale: Cranky? No. Just frustrated. Teen pregnancy is down since the 90s? Okays let pretend that’s true. Thats relative data. Comparing to the 90s. Compare to the 60s? Compare to the 40s? Comparing is a way to find a means to feel like we have succeeded in something. And we haven’t. So there is no reason to compare anything here. Promoting non-sexual behavior in 13 year old girls is a good thing.

    Also, those babies from the 90s would be at the age of wearing these pants, and not make the same mistakes as their mothers.

  74. battra92 says:

    Good for those girls who remain abstinent. I’ve dated several abstinent girls in the past (though two ran out and got laid after we broke up as a form of protest or something) so there are abstinent people out there and in some ways this is a neat way of

    When some girls wear shirts that say “sperm dumpster” on them I think a girl proclaiming abstinence is a great thing.

    Being abstinent made for easier meeting of the parents. Usually the word got back to them so I never got met with a shotgun or given a stern lecture. Most parents loved me, though it could just be because I’m a cool guy.

    But ’tis a very sad day in America. My values say no sex before marriage and I’ve stuck with that. I wouldn’t wear it on my trousers or even a shirt but that’s because it’s more of a private matter to me.

  75. Jabberkaty says:

    @maines19:

    Oh, I’m not against it in the slightest. In fact, I think it’s funny that pants that are um… promoting staying on kick up more controversy than those that promote taking them off.

    And I’d wear the aforementioned shirt as well – but just cause I think I’m hilarious.

  76. friendlynerd says:

    @choinski:
    I just had a giggle moment picturing Bush Sr. saying “read my crotch” at a podium

  77. Is it too much to hope that it’s a Radiohead reference?

  78. BStu says:

    Why on Earth are they denying that the pants are promoting abstinence? How is that even moderately debatable? Playing dumb on this just betrays that they aren’t really playing. They’ve taken a silly story and made themselves to look like complete idiots by taking such an incomprehensible position.

  79. DrBologna says:

    @Bladefist:

    i’d have to see your data, and I probably still wouldn’t believe it. Thats hard to data to gather.

    Umm… Seriously?

    1. It’s not his/her data. It’s CDC’s data. [www.cdc.gov]

    2. It’s also not hard to collect, compared to any other data. You just count the number of births to teenagers. Make sure to also include reasonable estimates for miscarriages based on data for frequency of miscarriages, and then also include abortion data collected from providers, and there you have it.

    3. Ignore it if you will, but that speaks volumes, as does a refusal to put equal weight for this issue on teenage boys. This “boys will be boys” mentality you keep advancing is pretty misogynistic. Maybe it’s because, with a stay-at-home mom who “sacrificed her life, to raise some good boys,” you’ve learned that a good woman is defined by quitting her job (and her life, apparently) to raise children. I don’t blame you for that; it’s what you know and what you’ve learned. We’ve all got that kind of shit to deal with. I do blame you if you don’t at least try to pierce the veil and see how the other 50.9% lives.

    4. Sexual innuendos written across the asses of teenage women are gross. As are thongs sold to 12-years-olds. I agree that “True Love Waits” is not gross.

  80. picardia says:

    @Bladefist: The issue — for me and, I would guess, most people turned off by these — is not the idea that 12-year-old girls should not be having sex. I think we’re all together on that one. The issue is that spray-painting the equivalent of I’M A VIRGIN on a 12-year-old girl’s butt does not come across as an absintence slogan.

    Overall I think B nailed it with the first comment. The rest of us are merely fapping.

  81. Bladefist says:

    @DrBologna: First off, You dont read my comments fully, so most of what you said, I already covered.

    2nd off, while it was my mom who raised me daily, it could be the father as well. Don’t pin sexism on me. If you read the rest of my comments, that should cover the rest of the things you said, I think we pretty much are in agreement.

    As for #1 and #2, covered it already.

    @picardia: In an optimal situation you are correct. But since it’s not optimal, we have to debate what should and should not be on their asses. And for 5 years, slutty slogans have been on there, school mascots, everything. Finally someoone put something positive there (again, not optimal) and everyone freaks out.

  82. DrBologna says:

    @Bladefist:

    Teen pregnancy is down since the 90s? Okays let pretend that’s true. Thats relative data. Comparing to the 90s. Compare to the 60s? Compare to the 40s?

    Sigh…

    1. Teen pregnancy is not “down since the 90s.” It is down since 1990. Big difference.
    2. Don’t pretend. It is true.
    3. We can’t compare to eras where data weren’t collected. That’s stupid. We can compare to the 80s and the 70s, though. Guess what? In both cases, we’re still down from where we were. This is due to a concerted effort by CDC to increase contraceptive use, decrease teenage sex, and educate people on how to do the first two.
    4. Why would we want to compare to the 40s? Were the 40s the benchmark era for all things good? Also, how many teenage mothers do you think were involved in one of the largest birth events ever (you know, the baby boom)?

    In short, since 1972 (which is when the data I’ve seen goes back to), we’ve been on an increase, until 1990. Since 1990, we’ve been steadily decreasing until now. We are now at a point when both abortions and pregnancies amongst teenagers are at a low.

  83. Notsewfast says:

    @Bladefist:

    OK, gotta jump in here. You cite teen pregnancy and AIDS as problems that are the result of left wing tolerance of normal (arguable at 13) sexual activity. Don’t you think a healthy portion of the blame might rest on the fact that schools primarily teach abstinence-only sex ed? If AIDS and pregnancy have been on the rise in the last several years, it has occurred alongside a decline in accurate information that is given to kids.

    People are going to have sex… It’s pretty much the only thing the human race has been able to perfect. Pretending it only happens inside marriage or demonizing it does not make it go away, it just prevents the people having sex from making intelligent decisions .

  84. BearTack says:

    And I thought it was a comment on premature ejaculation.

  85. CrazyRedd says:

    True Love may wait, but Preachy, Creepy Clothing clearly can’t.

    This is probably what girls who go to Chastity Balls get as gifts.

  86. misssgolightly says:

    @Secret Agent Man: Thanks for saying this. The sexist “boys will be boys but girls are just whores” comments were making me pretty ill.
    Hmm, perhaps to make AIDS and teen pregnancy go away we should teach about condoms and the Pill, not plaster “True Love Waits” across our daughter’s asses.

    And I’d like to know where the statistic comes from that says girls lose their virginity at at 14, rwakelan, please cite this. Cause according to this study, it’s 17.

  87. misssgolightly says:

    @misssgolightly: Here’s that link to the study. [www.newstrategist.com]

  88. girly says:

    @misssgolightly: well, i guess the pants were meant to let some girls express their opinion, not as educational outreach on the part of kmart.

    as far as education definitely people need to learn how to stop spreading their germs around.

    abstinence will always be #1, but since so few can do that they’ll have to learn the other stuffm too

  89. girly says:

    the m was supposed to be a comma

  90. cynicalliberal says:

    @ Bladefist:

    Your point would probably would be more effective is you used less polarizing political rhetoric. Your first post about the ‘liberal media’ really set the tone for how I would view your future comments, it is likely that it has for others as well.

    I agree that there’s nothing wrong with these pants themselves, I think they’re just as dumb as pants with “Sexy” written across the buttocks. Neither have any effect on teen pregnancy rates, they’re just reflections of social attitudes and those of the wearer’s.

  91. Coelacanth says:

    @Bladefist: “Finally someoone put something positive there (again, not optimal) and everyone freaks out.”

    It’s the placement, not the message. In my opinion, I find anything that’s meant to draw one’s attention such places.

  92. Coelacanth says:

    …tastless

  93. Jabberkaty says:

    @DrBologna:

    4. Sexual innuendos written across the asses of teenage women are gross. As are thongs sold to 12-years-olds. I agree that “True Love Waits” is not gross.

    I agree… But what’s even more gross (grosser?) is the parents who buy them. Yep, just threw up in my own mouth. Just a little.

  94. jenalicious says:

    @MissPeacock: seriously!
    where are abstinance-logo sweatpants for the boys? why is it only placed on the girls? ridiculous.

  95. digitalgimpus says:

    Perhaps this Feministing commenter said it best, “Because nothing says ‘I plan not to have sex until marriage’ like plastering text across your ass.”

    Perhaps that can be taken as a hint? Anal doesn’t count right?

  96. choinski says:

    @friendlynerd: In this case, ‘Read my lips’ yould still be appropriate

  97. anarcurt says:

    Blue Light Special on isle 4. Pillow Pants the abstinence troll!

  98. quirkyrachel says:

    But at least it’s better than those panties that suggested girls use their you know what as a credit card.

  99. henwy says:

    Feminazis need to find something to gripe about. If they didn’t get their panties into a twist over this, it would only be something else equally ridiculous.

  100. mikelotus says:

    @Bladefist: you talk shit with no evidence of that. the only thing abstinence programs do is cause higher pregnancy rates and higher std rates. and unless you have any real evidence to the contrary, you should take these lies that cause teen pregnancies and death elsewhere please. you are going to love 8 years of obama with a dem congress.

  101. mikelotus says:

    why are republicans afraid of sex? except for the many perverts in the party?

  102. DeepFriar says:

    @BearTack: +1, very clever

  103. Superawesomerad says:

    Yeah, I’m going with the view that this is no worse than some of the skanky shit I’ve seen marketed at teen girls.

  104. Superawesomerad says:

    @mikelotus: What on earth do Republicans have to do with this?

  105. mzs says:

    “athletic pants” – heehee

    The only people I see in public wearing sweat pants don’t look too athletic to me.

  106. Carl3000 says:

    True love waits…until 9:00 at least

  107. Rippleeffect says:

    I’m really impressed with the consumerist crowd on this one. Gives me hope for humanity.

  108. BlackFlag55 says:

    Well .. that’s certainly better than the teen panties in Wal Mart that had printed right above the crotch …. Who Needs A Credit Card?

  109. Gopher bond says:

    Hmm, anagram for “True Love Waits” is “Violate, Sew, Rut”

    CONSPIRACY!

  110. Gopher bond says:

    also, “Sir, Wet Ovulate”

  111. lalaland13 says:

    Because any guy will refuse to remove the pants of a girl who has “True Love Waits” on her ass. Duh.

    (Yes, I’m being sarcastic).

  112. octoSink says:

    I would print “Juicy” on the back.

  113. battra92 says:

    @Secret Agent Man: normal (arguable at 13) sexual activity.

    Gotta disagree. There’s no argument that sex under the age of 18 is normal. Just because it happens or is common doesn’t make it right.

  114. The full sentence is “True love waits until the pants are fully taken off”. It’s clear that KMart has an anti-dry humping agenda.

  115. ComNavFdgPk says:

    I’m surprised that this aspect has not been raised yet; these are drawstring sweatpants, right? Wouldn’t this idea make more sense if it wasn’t so damn easy to remove the pants?

  116. Bladefist says:

    @Superawesomerad: Absolutely nothing. Except our women are cuter.

    @mikelotus: Your intelligence astounds me. And I don’t know why your talking about Obama. But 8 years eh? In the general election, he may actually have to answer some questions. So don’t get too excited yet.

    @cynicalliberal: Republican / Democrat is political. Left / Right can be political, but I also believe it shows up in other aspects of our culture. A lot of it is generalizations, but the liberal media, in my opinion, has zero morals. It wasn’t meant to be political. But if you think it is, then maybe it is. The Right are often associated with Church, traditions, and have a set of morals. The left are generally associated with modernization, and a different set of morals. Maybe I’m way off. Thats just my opinion, and it doesn’t help that every avenue that is reporting on this story, is a liberal avenue. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  117. yaced says:

    I think they are just advertising for Radiohead.

    and anyway, if they can market teenage girls being whores, why can they market the opposite?

  118. FLConsumer says:

    All that comes to mind is the John Valby song “Barnacle Bill”…

    “The hell with the dance and off with those pants says Barnacle Bill the sailor.”

  119. Elijah-M says:

    @Bladefist:
    While I wholeheartedly agree that our media is morally bankrupt, your contention that they have a liberal bias (and your implication that their lack of morals stems from said bias) is disingenuous at best. If our media is biased in any direction, it is towards sensationalism. Sometimes this favors liberals, but it just as often favors conservatives. In any case, it fails to help anyone understand the complexity of the stories they cover; and it certainly doesn’t help any of us to understand points of view that we disagree with.

    All I can say about the abstinence pants is that fetishizing virginity hardly seems like a productive way to prevent a child from having sex.

  120. Trai_Dep says:

    So, where can I get condoms with True Love Waits printed on them?

  121. Notsewfast says:

    @battra92:
    Maybe not to you, and yes there is a certain level of maturity that we as a society have determined is needed to make decisions about sexuality. I think that 13 is very young, and wouldn’t want my (hypothetical) child to be sexually active at that age. That being said, 18 is nothing but an arbitrary number and nothing magical happens from one day to the next that makes sex healthy instead of perverse. This does not discredit my previous statement however… If we teach children how to be safely sexually active, and present all of the available options, including abstinence, we will have a far healthier society.

    Whether you think it is correct or not, I’d rather see 14 year olds that are simply not virgins than 14 year olds that are pregnant because they chose to have sex, but were misinformed about how to prevent disease and pregnancy.

  122. Trai_Dep says:

    @Bladefist: “Downward, upward, Whatever. i’d have to see your data, and I probably still wouldn’t believe it.”
    So, your opinions are completely fact-free.
    Good to know. Carry on.

  123. neverwhisper says:

    Oh dear. Words on pants! Lordy! Whatever will we do now!

    People, take out your hands, give yourselves a good smacking and grow the hell up. You have brains, use them.

    You don’t have to do what the pants tell you (no matter what the message). It’s okay…you can teach your kids whatever you wish.

    Parenting…remember what that was? Back in the day?

    Yeah…those were good times…before the magic-teen-brainwashing-garments came along and screwed it up for all of us!

    Society is surely lost.

  124. TheNerd says:

    Wow! Kmart will do ANYTHING to sell! Even try to reduce love to a slogan, just for a few extra bucks.

  125. synergy says:

    I think where and when I grew up, that type of girl would be called a tease or a c***tease. :D

  126. alexanderpink says:

    Poor retailers can’t catch a break. Walmart sold those credit card panties they catch flack. Now Kmart catches crap for selling abstinence sweats. Who cares? Let people express themselves in whatever way they want, whether it be “fuck me I’m a whore” or “I’m an uptight religious chick who hate sex because God thinks its dirty”.

  127. synergy says:

    @Bladefist: Boys will be boys? What utter bullshit. Men and women have brains and hormones alike, but if you give one set a scapegoat (“boys will be boys”) then of course that only allows that set to do whatever the hell they please!

  128. synergy says:

    @Bladefist: “Hey, our kids need to stop having sex”

    This has proven to INCREASE teen pregnancy. Teaching adolescents the complete, unshaded facts on the other hand actually does the job.

  129. synergy says:

    @DrBologna: Well said! And thank you! You saved me the dive into the CDC page! :D

  130. Bladefist says:

    @Trai_Dep: He didnt provide facts. Am I to abandon my argument based on his statement? And If he did provide facts, I’m assuming it would be from a source that I don’t believe. Tons of people link to blogs, and those aren’t reputable sources. I’m old school. Try putting those blogs, or other .com’s on a senior paper.

    @synergy: you are a day late and a dollar short.

  131. synergy says:

    @Bladefist: “The left are generally associated with modernization, and a different set of morals.”

    No. The progressives/liberals/whatever label you like prefer to not tell other people what to do. Their morals may or may not be different from conservatives/wingnuts/whatevers.

  132. ironchef says:

    this is a parental issue. No need for moral know-it-alls to micromanage human sexuality issues they have no comprehension about.

    My feeling is abstinence education works for some people (mainly the religious types). On the other hand, it promotes bad marriages since it pressures people to get into marriages at a young age that don’t last and based solely on sex. Saving yourself before marriage doesn’t impress me. Sorry. Intimacy issues is a SUBSTANTIAL part why marriages go bad and why religious marriages divorce rates are so high.

    Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith group

    Ironically, marriage among atheists and agnostics last longer than religious ones.
    [digg.com]

  133. DH405 says:

    Personally, I am glad that Consumerist is informing us of this. It’s good to know which companies are pushing a worthless religion-fueled message. Now I know not to give them any of my business. See? Free market in action!

    If Target had a shirt that said “Conservatives are douchebags” then you would know where to not shop, opfreak, Bladefist, and fishing-ace.

  134. DH405 says:

    @Bladefist: Wow. I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to be more in love with their own bullshit.

  135. Bladefist says:

    @synergy: No one is telling anyone what to do. I’m just pointing out, who is making a big deal about this story, and who is not. That is undeniable.

  136. ironchef says:

    @SMSDHubbard: you gotta admire a guy who’s willing to drink the koolaid his party dishes as conservatism swirls down the bowl of failure.

  137. Bladefist says:

    @SMSDHubbard: Well now you know.

    @ironchef: You are pathetic.

  138. drjayphd says:

    @digitalgimpus: Only if these pants don’t come with a heinie troll.

    Also, throw me into the “I thought this was Radiohead merch” camp. I KNEW I couldn’t have been the only one.

  139. HeartBurnKid says:

    It’s interesting that K-Mart is trying to increase their market share with the “fundamentalist” demographic (even if they’re trying to be all sneaky about it), but I don’t think it’ll work. I mean, shopping at K-Mart is the closest thing to Hell I think I’ll ever experience, and one wold thing that that’d turn off the Christian-types.

  140. Not really news. Move on.

    Clothes with sayings are sold all the time at many retailers.It doesn’t make a difference whether it says “sexy” or “true love waits”, either way the girl is drawing attention to her ass. It is ironic.

    However whether the sales of these pants are high or low, it is not going to affect teen sex/birth/abortion rates at all. Anyone that believes that these actually help anyone or make any kind of SERIOUS statement about abstinence is completely wrong. You cannot EVER make a serious statement about abstinence if someone has to read that statement off of your ass.

    However, just because K-Mart sells it doesn’t mean we have to associate K-Mart as supporting the statement. Wal-mart sells Bibles but that doesn’t mean we have to accuse Wal-mart of being a Christian company. Come on, now.

    Want to make a serious statement about abstinence when you are 16? How about practicing abstinence? Thats about the biggest statement you can make.

  141. Floobtronics says:

    While as the father of a girl, I applaud the sentiment, the execution is just flat out retarded.

    My daughter isn’t old enough to come across clothing with slogans written across the rear end, but when she is, as far as I’m concerned, it’s not allowed, no matter what it says.

    I can’t believe parents let their teenage daughters walk around with shorts that say things like “Juicy” on their asses. Why not just give them shorts that say stuff like “I’m Easy”? Yeesh.

  142. nardo218 says:

    I am a liberal feminista, but I don’t mind these. If some girls want to be hip and wear pants that look like their friends’, but has an eye-popping message about protecting their virginity, let them. They’re kids, they’ll throw them out for “cum bucket” pants next year.

  143. mikelotus says:

    @Bladefist: McCain leaves Fox speechless

    ://www.milkandcookies.com/link/109921/detail/

  144. Mr. Gunn says:

    I’d hit it.

  145. Life_Sandwich says:

    Stop giving Sears Holdings publicity, please.

  146. stumblingonoptomism says:

    I know this is way late in the discussion. But I just saw these sweatpants along with some t-shirts today at Meijers as I was strolling to the checkout lanes. I highly doubt KMart had anything to do with the design, just bought them from whatever factory in China.

  147. cynicalliberal says:

    @Bladefist: I can’t say for certain if the only media groups covering this are liberal, I haven’t really followed the American media for years… I found them too conservative or sensationalist when all I wanted was news, if I wanted commentary… I’d go to a blog or a site like The Consumerist. I’m not going to get into debate into the morality of progressives and conservatives, that’s off topic from the article.

    In an effort to contribute to the core conversation, I believe Kmart actually owns the brand that makes these… It’s their Junior’s line or something. Can anyone verify that?

  148. h0mi says:

    i dont see the big deal about these pants.

  149. sarcastibitch says:

    @sean_h: I get why you’d rather your niece wear these than “juicy” pants but any kid I ever have any control over / say in won’t be wearing any writing on their ass. Maybe team sweats or grad sweats, but no “girlicious” or even “true love waits.”

    @TheDude06: I’m pretty sure teen pregnancy has plateaued, if not increased. We’re in a weird time where trying to help out teen mothers seems to have made it okay to be a teen mother. There are special programs in place to helou put should it happen vbut it’s beginning to seem like an acceptable alternative to young adult hood to become a parent and enter this alternate stream.

  150. Uriel says:

    Have I been wearing abstinence pants all this time and didn’t know about it?

  151. mikelotus says:

    Hmm, well we know that in Japan, condoms are used for birth control, not just STDs. But then the land of bukkake does not have sexual hangups either and has a age of consent that is 13.

    Health Statistics > Teenage pregnancy (per capita) (most recent) by country
    VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita
    Definition Source Printable version
    Bar Graph Map

    Showing latest available data.
    Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
    #1 United States: 1,671.63 births per 1 million peo
    #2 Slovakia: 1,112.87 births per 1 million peo
    #3 New Zealand: 972.491 births per 1 million peo
    #4 Hungary: 916.858 births per 1 million peo
    #5 Iceland: 889.677 births per 1 million peo
    #6 Poland: 788.76 births per 1 million peo
    #7 Ireland: 781.375 births per 1 million peo
    #8 Portugal: 700.644 births per 1 million peo
    #9 Canada: 607.224 births per 1 million peo
    #10 Australia: 589.796 births per 1 million peo
    #11 Czech Republic: 589.298 births per 1 million peo
    #12 Austria: 400.122 births per 1 million peo
    #13 Greece: 392.107 births per 1 million peo
    #14 Germany: 351.809 births per 1 million peo
    #15 Norway: 349.88 births per 1 million peo
    #16 France: 296.508 births per 1 million peo
    #17 Belgium: 287.051 births per 1 million peo
    #18 Finland: 284.319 births per 1 million peo
    #19 Spain: 279.22 births per 1 million peo
    #20 Luxembourg: 236.89 births per 1 million peo
    #21 Denmark: 213.733 births per 1 million peo
    #22 Italy: 191.952 births per 1 million peo
    #23 Sweden: 178.294 births per 1 million peo
    #24 Netherlands: 172.061 births per 1 million peo
    #25 Switzerland: 145.814 births per 1 million peo
    #26 Japan: 137.352 births per 1 million peo

  152. Bruce_A says:

    I’d rather see some fourteen year old girl in these instead of hot pink sweats with the word “JUICY” written across the seat.

    @mikelotus: What has this to do with republicans?

  153. ArdonBurdick says:

    I think this is probably not meant to be serious – in the UK, we have
    clothing with various slogans on them. Those who think it really
    entails abstinence are taking it a bit too far!

  154. crankymediaguy says:

    “When some girls wear shirts that say “sperm dumpster” on them I think a girl proclaiming abstinence is a great thing.”

    Um, where exactly have you seen girls wearing shirts that say that? Did you read about that in an email you got from the same friend who sent you the one about an alleged video of Michelle Obama doing a rant about “whitey?”

    It’s FUN to believe in nonsense, isn’t it? Who needs those pesky FACTS?

  155. redhand32 says:

    “True Love Waits” I think they mean Tom Waits here.

  156. MsFeasance says:

    Where are the crotchless versions?

  157. TheCutUp says:

    I don’t understand why it’s okay to plaster a “pro sex” comment on the buttocks but not a “sex can wait” comment.

    Why is it alright to announce to the world that you “like it from behind” but not okay to let everyone know “Hey, I’m waiting till I find the right guy”.

    It seems to me like both sides should be able to have their say on anyones ass that they like! If I want to put, “Swiss Cheese is the Best!” on my ass, I better have the privilege.

    I do not agree with the feministing commenter, no I do not. Considering every other statement on the back of those pants, to get righteous about one that’s almost innocent. C’mon, you need something better to bitch about then that! Is the president taking the day off? =P

  158. S-the-K says:

    Why are we discussing this? Nobody says anything about the promiscuous-themed clothing for children and young people, but when abstinence-themed clothing hits the shelves, people sh1t a brick.

  159. cecinemapasderange says:

    There was no opinion stated. It was just a series of syllables uttered. please keep that in mind when considering the meaning of all this.

  160. Andr0 says:

    Hmm… I think I need to jump on this business opportunity with sweaters emblazoned with “True love may wait – hot sex now!”

  161. Kimbeegrin says:

    @Asvetic: I was thinking the same thing as well, they’re ripping on Radiohead! Thom Yorke whoop their ass!