Internal Documents Show Why Verizon Isn't Fulfilling Advertised Discounts For Tens Of Thousands
These internal Verizon emails, sent by the same insider and as a a followup to "LEAKS: Insider Says Verizon Isn't Fulfilling Advertised Discounts For Tens Of Thousands," shows why some of our readers have complained about Verizon offering them one price and billing them another, and then being inflexible in offering service credits. It appears to show that Verizon mailed out a half a million "Blitz" promotional rate cards, then decided it was an error and pulled the offer from the computers. Then Verizon let people get the advertised offers, but only if the customer specifically asked for it. Around the same time, on March 3rd, management cuts the discounts reps can give to $150. Two weeks later, it's $50. Two weeks after that, it's zero. Even if a customer was overbilled and legitimately deserved a credit, tough titties, Texas, you weren't going to get it. Verizon insider's explanation, rebuttal to the response by Verizon PR pointman John Bonomo, and the internal emails, inside...
Anonymous writes:
I recently wrote to the consumerist about the fact that Verizon is acting in a manner most would consider inconsistent with a customer-first attitude. Only in bizarro world could the statements that were made be construed as an attack on it's employees. Unfortunately John Bonomo, Verizon's director of Media Relations, saw it as exactly that. He believes that it did 'his or her colleagues a disservice and dishonoring the work that they do on behalf of our customers.' Mr Bonomo also said that there were 'a number of inaccuracies', but failed to identify any. All he did was state that customers entitled to the tv will get them, and acknowledges that delivering the set would take some time, and we said that as a part of the promotion.' That's funny, I never stated that Verizon wasn't going to give everyone their tv's, only that it was taking longer then it takes conceive and deliver a baby.
Mr Bonomo goes on to say that employees should be commended and here I am in total agreement. For far too long we have suffered at the hands of individuals posing as management, people who have no clue how to properly run a company. They actually believe it's acceptable to refuse to credit a customer who we admit we over billed, simply because we're given too much credit to everyone else. They think it's perfectly fine to knowingly send out fliers advertising a price, then decide not to honor them, and to then claim they were sent out *in error*.Some readers of the consumerist have asked 'how do we know what he said is true?' Excellent question. To prove it, I submit to you the emails from the director and the head of marketing which is the basis for most of what was stated in my previous article. I believe they stand for themselves, and I challenge Mr Bonomo to defend the policies that these emails impose on us as employees, and on the customers who they claim to value.
First is the NJ marketing summary which clearly state on the 2nd page that effective 2/18 the blitz offers were to be made permanent. Second is an email from Judy Peters stating that all offers are rescinded. Following this is a far more detailed email dated 3-15 detailing what has been rescinded, why, and what is left to offer. The language is very threatening (even to management, which is referred to as IHD) This email was sent only a few weeks after half a million letters offering these rates were mailed out, and it clearly stated as so in the NJ marketing plan on our website. After being rightfully called out for being so asinine, Judy Peters sent another email explaining that the offers are now back in effect, but ONLY if the customer indicates awareness of them. We can't proactively offer them. Note the specific use of the phrase 'letters sent in error' which contradicts Verizon's own internal marketing information, which indicates that the offers were in fact meant to be sent.
Following that is an email informing us of the first of what would be two times where we simply didn't give anyone their proper discount if they had a specific bill date.
Then we have three emails from our director and the head of marketing. The first one, dated March 3rd, tells us that we're been partially neutered and that we are now only able to adjust $150 without first needing to seek management approval. Pay particular attention to the last paragraph if you want real insight into how management thinks. Then there's a followup sent March 18th cutting it to $50. Finally there's an email telling us that we are not to give any credit to anyone for any reason for the remainder of the month.












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@EyeHeartPie: How can they get away with it? Because most people can't get landline telephone service from anyone else and because Comcast sucks just about the same.
@EyeHeartPie: great question. i recommend contacting Judy Peters directly to see what she has to say at Judy.Peters@core.verizon.com
ya know, when i moved to Las Vegas recently, I was quite disheartened to find a lack of choice for broadband internet service as Embarq has locked out Verizon and AT&T for DSL service, and my only other residential option is Cox Cable. Of course both options are exhorbitantly priced compared to my options when living in Seattle; competitive pricing due to increased competition, lacking here in Las Vegas.
After learning of this "bait and switch" advertising tactic used by Verizon in their latest promotion campaign plus their obvious attempt at overbilling without due recourse or proper compensation, I'm glad I didn't have Verizon to choose down here.
@chemmy: Pwnt.
And to think, if Verizon's service didn't suck in the first place, they wouldn't have these issues.
If there's one area in which Verizon truly does excel, it's dicking customers around. I can't imagine ever hating myself to the degree that I would look to them for (residential) services again. I'm sure that there is a better metaphor, but ... Verizon is a company that will gladly set you on fire, and then refuse to even piss on you to douse the flames. Hate hate hate hate hate.
We get our cell service through Verizon Wireless, and while I really can't complain about the service there, I hate using them, and want to switch based on principle alone. But the other carriers don't provide the coverage they do in rural areas here, and my husband -who pays the bill- does not *get* my Verizon hate. Boo.
@unravel:
Verizon is a company that will gladly set you on fire, and then refuse to even piss on you to douse the flames.
that's not fair. i doubt they'd refuse to piss on you - they'd just charge the going rate for fiji bottled water (& then sell the video to every fetish site on the web). that's the verizon i know!
If Verizon doesn't get "Worst Company" now with this direct evidence, then the process is completely broken, and the turfers and "viral marketers" have won.
It was sad when "Show us your Verizon Face" disappeared. Worse when the ability to flag users disappeared. But after seeing those last two emails, the litmus test for the Consumerist is now in place. If a company can game the system, you will see it now.
@oakie: Oakie, if it makes you feel any better, I was in the same situation when I moved out there. Turns out Cox was the best cable I've ever had. Never any issues with service and competent reps. Hated to go back to Comcast when we left LV. (Hated to leave LV, for that matter.)
@RagingBoehner: You'd be surprised at the number of companies running Domino (aka: Lotus Notes).
Have you seen the tv advert for Alltel where they summon 'the wizard' and one of the telco guys disappears and the verizon character is rifling thorough his pockets?
Yeah, that pretty much sums up how Verizon operates.
What we can take from this:
Always request your billing fixes at the BEGINNING of the billing cycle, so that they have enough 'adjustments' to cover you billing errors.
I love this line: "In addition, there are specific billing issues that have an automated fix that don't require adjustments" Translation: Tell the customer that their billing errors will be fixed automatically. They won't be. But as long as you believe this statement, you are not out-right lying to your customers.
Another classic: "...remember we have a fiduciary responsibility for Verizon's financials." Translation: The higher ups that make all the money want to keep making all the money. I want to make my quarterly bonus. For all your hard work and customer screwing, you will see no further reward, besides perhaps a pat on the head. Oh yeah, MONEY is more important than morals, and don't you forget it.
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Who is this material written by? Lawyers, psychologists and circus clowns most likely. My apologies to all circus clowns I may have offended.
No wonder that the employees dont know anything or keep hanging up on you, they dont even know what the hell they are talking about.
Whenever you need a crisis management team of 12 people to figure out a pricing plan, you know it was written like that on purpose and for only one purpose.
@jcoltrane: She has only an Associate's degree (note the two years in college!) from a community college. And she's senior staff? Sheesh!
i work in verizon fios.
i just wanted to say that 'yes' the east coast footprint is a total mess. and 'yes' everyone knows it. west coast footprint (inlcuding tx and fl) is fairly smooth sailing for the most part. alot has to do with the different unions of the two. rumor has it the eastcoast union will strike at the end of their contract as well.
it all looks to be getting worse outside the union issues. we have more customers, yet we have close to the same number phone reps and field techs and management is more demanding than ever trying to hit their regional stats.
the customer will feel the squeeze as much as the first contact employees (cssc, fsc, etc) feel the squeeze from the company, (employment depends on meeting call metrics - sales numbers, call times, etc). customers may be angry, but there isnt a thing the person you are talking to on the phone can do about it outside of their current policies. when the customer is yelling, you can bet you are on mute, and the rep is chit chatting with the person next to them about who won the game last night, wait for you to stop yelling, then come back, apologize for their inconvenience, and explain what we can do for them. if you are courteous, and respectful, you might get that rep that will go outside of their boundaries and help you even further. think about that.
the entire tone of the company now has to do with pushing the responsibility/accountability to another person or dept to get the issue out of your hands. when you, the customer, get to someone that will take the time to resolve your issues and take the time to hold your hand, you can bet that employee will be on the chopping block soon. i was, until i realized i cant do that anymore, and have to heard the cattle like everyone else. through the companies own actions it is very very clear that to truly take care of 1 customer is not as effective as puting a bandaid on 5, 10 or even 30 customers issues.
we also keep 'reorganizing' thinking this will solve these issues and boost morale in and outside the company. yet the same underlying issue remains - we put too much money into laying the fiber, and there is nothing left to support it.
just call us ver-enron.
good luck to you all


















How can a company get away with not giving credit due to their own error? That would be like going to a store, checking out with $50 worth of stuff, and then being charged $75, with the store refusing to reduce that charge back down, and refusing to let you be responsible for any less than the total $75, which is only there because of their error.