Though Microsoft bowed to a gamer backlash and gave 3-year warranty protection for the widespread Xbox hardware failure known as “The Red Ring of Death,” it seems another debilitating malfunction, “The Red Light of Death,” hasn’t become enough of a PR fiasco to merit the same treatment. Let’s help it along with reader Steve’s story…
Microsoft’s extended warranty for the Red Ring of Death was the “result of what Microsoft views as an unacceptable number of repairs to Xbox 360 consoles.” Apparently, the number of Red Light of Death repairs is acceptable.
Ben and Company,I have been reading The Consumerist everyday for the last year, it’s the first site I visit every morning. Thank you all for a great service. This is the first time I have written in with a tip/complaint.
Microsoft recently extended all warranties to 3 years for all Xbox 360′s dealing with the “Red Ring of Death”. What you have to read in the fine print though, is that the extended warranty only covers the very specific “3 red lights”. No more, no less.
Three days ago my Xbox took a turn for the worst while playing a game of Team Fortress 2. During the match my screen started rapidly flashing green and vertical lines appeared. I figured it was just a glitch so I shutdown the Xbox and restarted, I still had the problem. I tried several different games (Oblivion, Orange Box, Rock Band, GoW, Condemned 2) and every single one of them has lines in the screen. I tried 2 separate LCD TVs and 2 separate video cables. All had the same result, lines in the game-play.. Here are some screenshots.
I then went to turn the Xbox on the following morning and received a flashing red light and an error code on the screen. I looked up the error code online and found this: E74: There is high chance it’s a scaler chip problem (the “ANA” or “HANA” chip near the AV cable connection) it can also be caused by a faulty AV cable so check that first. In some cases it is a problem with the GPU
I believe the problem only occurs in areas of the screen that are being rendered 3D by the on-board video. Its pretty obvious that the video and/or motherboard are malfunctioning in some form. If you have a look at the screenshots you will see that all 2D graphics (in-game HUD, dashboard) are all fine, only 3D rendered graphics have the issue.
I called Tech support and they said the new 3 year warranty will not cover this issue. I thought this was pretty outrageous. The Tech said I would have to pay to have the unit shipped and pay to have it fixed. This is obviously a defect in the Xbox. This is my second box (First one RRoD) and has been working with no issues for just over a year.
So now my wallet in $107.00 lighter, and I will be without my console for a month. I have been nothing but an Xbox 360 fan and evangelist. I was the cornerstone for 5 of my friends purchasing the console, and now I have been let down. They took care of my first console with defects but refuse to take responsibility for an obvious manufacturers defect on my latest box.
I think that when its working the Xbox 360 is a great product, anyone trying to decide which console they should buy should take Service and Support in to consideration. My experience has let me down.
Although the extended warranty announcement clearly states that “[a]ll other Xbox 360 warranty policies remain in place,” we question the wisdom of not including a similar hardware failure in the repair program. The Red Light of Death, which Microsoft calls Error 74, “occurs when the Xbox 360 console experiences a hardware failure.” Microsoft admits that the Red Ring of Death does not result from a specific issue and is simply an indicator of a “general hardware failure,” so it makes little sense to cover one large group of hardware failures and not extend similar protection to a similar failure.
Some suggestions for Steve and others who experience the Red Light of Death: call the escalated Xbox support line; if that doesn’t work, call Tier 3 escalations. You can also try these executive email addresses; if that doesn’t work, email the big guy himself. He might not like it, but it should get results. If none of that works and you paid with a credit card, check if you have extended warranty coverage or if you can use your buyer’s protection plan to get a replacement.







I found it very hard to choose between an Xbox 360 and PS3, and I finally broke down and bought the PS3 based on my experience with the PS2 which was very positive.
Sometimes I wonder if I made the right decision, but after hearing about all of the Xbox tech issues perhaps I the PS3 was the right way to go.
I’ve yet to pay to have my 360 fixed. It RROD’d once. Free Fix naturally. The replacement unit started with the Disc read error 8 months later and MS told me that I’d have to pay to ship and fix it. I had the problem escalated to a supervisor, in fact I INSISTED on it. Then I calmly pointed out the fact that I am in fact a MAN in his mid 30′s, and not some kid that could just be blown off, and then proceeded to point out the questionable ethics of charging to fix a KNOWN problem which has a PROVEN and heavily documented record of repeating in an unusually high number of their units. Was put on hold for 5 minutes and then was told that the shipping and repair would be free.
My guess is that they’d rather not have a lawyer repeat that in front of a jury someday and possibly cost them Millions in a class action. You simply have to know how to play shitty customer service against itself, you will win every time if you can make them look stupid in a calm and mature manner. Of course being a TV news director doesn’t hurt either. It’s amazing what you can get done when you start beating the shit out of people with your media credentials. It’s almost better than being a cop I think.
I had the error E 74 when my Xbox died too. Luckily though I was under warranty…
Did I just say I was lucky thst my Xbox earlier then later?
I got the Red Light of death also and I’m mad at MicroSoft. I Heard is a class action law suit against Microsoft and all the disc and RLoD problems but I’m not sure I wish someone would make an official petition for extended warranty on disc scratches and RLoD. Like vista the Xbox has been a Fun screw up.
This only justifies my decision to stick with Sony and Nintendo. I’ve owned every console from both of these manufacturers and never had any problems. No problems with the systems, games, hardware, etc. I’ve also switched from PC to Mac. I want nothing to do with a company who doesn’t care about their customers. Microsoft has always given me that impression, and this confirms it. Good luck with your 360s all, I hope you get some results and didn’t waste your money.