Thanks to the demands of movie studios, as of April 15th any pay-per-view movies you record to your DirecTV DVR will disappear after 24 hours. [DirecTV] Thanks to Mark!

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  1. forgottenpassword says:

    Noone uses Vcr’s anymore?

    I find them invaluable since I use one 5 nights a week because I work during primetime.

    I’d love to have a dvr if I could use it JUST LIKE like a vcr (meaning programming it myself). I dont have cable, dont have a landline & dont want to pay for a “service” that provides a dvr with a tv airing schedule.

  2. SpenceMan01 says:

    Yay for DRM. I don’t think I’ll be getting any commercial DVR devices if this is the sort of crap that they’re shoving down consumers’ throats. When will they learn that we want our content how, when and where WE want it, and we don’t like having that dictated to us.

  3. nybiker says:

    Just out of curiosity, how long is the current period? I still use a VCR (I haven’t gotten sucked into the dvr’s yet what with all the problems I keep reading about with them)to record commercial tv (not movies). But since I have Netflix and regular HBO (and am thisclose to canceling CineMax) via DirecTV, I don’t do any pay-per-view.

  4. Bladefist says:

    you could record this to dvd. Have your DVR/whatever device go to the input on one of those dvd records. Have the output go out the recorder to your tv. Record from your input. It’s hackish, but it works.

  5. Kat@Work says:

    @forgottenpassword: I don’t know about all DVRs, but I can manually set mine just like a VCR. (I have a Directv DVR)

  6. Kat@Work says:

    @Bladefist-미국사람: I do that all the time with my VCR. It works for me until I can buy the show on DVD.

  7. forgottenpassword says:

    @Kat@Work:

    By the time? & not by the DTV’s tv shedule?

    If so…. I should then look into buying a dvr that can do that.

  8. backbroken says:

    @Bladefist-미국사람: Or for roughly the price of 2 pay per view movies, you can subscribe for a month to Netflix.

    Or TPB for free.

  9. JustAGuy2 says:

    @forgottenpassword:

    You need to have DirecTV service to use the DirecTV DVR.

    If you just have over-the-air television, the only DVR on the market that will work for you is TiVo, but you have to pay a service fee for that.

  10. forgottenpassword says:

    @JustAGuy2:

    and that’s why I stick with a vcr. I jsut wish they made a dvr that is basically a digital verson of a simple vcr. Gets annoying to always use vhs tapes. I dont actually mind setting the vcr recording timer.

  11. Ex_EA_Slave says:

    and they wonder why downloading movies illegally is so popular

  12. Kat@Work says:

    @forgottenpassword: Yup. I believe in the ‘manual set’ menu or something. Yeah, I’ve seen it – never done it, but have seen it. But, yes, you do have to have DirevTv. :(

  13. gamin says:

    yay for netflix and your dvd burner

  14. CPC24 says:

    My, how things have changed. I remember when PPV was only one showing of one movie; I was glad when they extended it to 24 hours.

    BTW, this doesn’t cover movies from any other channels. I have all the Star Wars movies in HD recorded off HBO 6 months ago.

  15. homerjay says:

    That oughta do wonders for PPV sales. Still, I thought with DrecTV you can record all the PPV you want but you don’t actually pay for them until you hit play. I wonder if that clock doesn’t start until you hit play.
    I mean, once you start watching it, chances are you’re gonna finish it within a couple hours.

    Still, this sucks.

  16. nick_r says:

    Wow, and I was THIS close to almost possibly thinking about considering maybe browsing the DirecTV PPV listings one of these days. But not anymore.

  17. aka Cat says:

    I bet DirectTV sees a drop in PPV sales M-Th.

  18. Bladefist says:

    @backbroken: Yea duh. And I do. But I was responding to the article and comments above me.

    Payper view is nice because you can watch whenver you want. On demand. Netflix you have to wait for. So if you want to pay for on demand, but want to keep the movie, my comment is best. TPB is great, once again, unless you’re on an OC192, you have to wait.

  19. Bladefist says:

    and Netflix instant view sucks. Most movies on there are older then me. The 3 that are not are terrible. I’m sure they’re working on it, and have problems w/ the movie studios, but as of right now, i deem it useless.

  20. azntg says:

    I can envision seeing this as a case study in a Media class. “How to drive your industry into the ground 101.”

  21. Christo67 says:

    With two little ones at home, we rarely stay up long enough to watch an entire two hour + movie. Having it on our DVR so we can stop and continue a movie over a couple day period was really convenient. All well, guess I’ll spend my money with someone else.

  22. j3s says:

    Another inane DRM move that will seemingly do nothing more than annoy fair-playing customers and create a sense of disdain towards the movie studios. Assuming it’s not just a way to generate additional revenue through multiple purchases, exactly what do they think this will accomplish protection wise? Customers can still burn and/or transfer their purchases, they just have less time to do so? Woo.

    I suppose it’s also serving a purpose in reminding people that scene releases, torrents, Usenet, IRC, and the such are all DRM free.

  23. I_can_still_pitch says:

    @homerjay: the clock does not start on record now/buy later until you actually watch the movie the first time. also the outputting to a dvd recorder works great, i do it all the time – standard def only, obvs.

  24. pestie says:

    HA HA!! I just cancelled DirecTV a couple weeks ago, too. I liked my DirecTivo just fine, but I knew crap like this was coming (not to mention forced advertising, which I’m sure will continue its creep into the commercial DVR world). I use my own homemade MythTV DVR now and I’m much happier.

  25. ecwis says:

    @Bladefist-미국사람: Hulu also has some movies online. It might be worth looking but most of the movies are also old but it seems like a better selection than the Netflix service.

    [www.hulu.com]

  26. tmlfan81 says:

    I’ve had a DVR with Charter for over a year. The interface is whack, and there are a few problems with it when it comes to recording a season’s worth of shows. [It records the same "new" episode five times]

    I manually set my recordings and add a few minutes before and after recordings to allow for over-runs. I manually fast forward through commercials because it isn’t that hard and I’ve gotten really good at jumping back into the show at the right time.

    The last PPV movie I ordered was Clerks 2. I still have it on my DVR.

  27. Bladefist says:

    @ecwis: And dont forget TV series. I use hulu like a mofo. Great site. I can stand the 3x 5 second ads in a 30 min show. Or the 1x2min ad for a movie

  28. scoosdad says:

    @ecwis: Funny you mentioned movies on Hulu in this thread. I tried to watch Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life this weekend on Hulu, and gave up after what seemed like the four hundredth running of the same 15 second DirecTV ad during the movie. The cueing of the ads was pretty amateurish too, cutting in right in the middle of dialog, action, etc.

    Made me swear off Hulu and DirecTV for life in one fell swoop.

  29. CJ4 says:

    As a long-time and generally very happy customer of DirecTV, this kind of crap really irritates me. I regularly order PPV movies, but, as the parent of a young child, it often takes my wife and I two or three nights to get through a movie (and going to the movies is right out). Like Apple’s 24 hour policy for its rentals, this new policy simply takes us completely out of the PPV market. I know there are thousands, if not millions, of others just like us, whether its kids or jobs or school that make blocking out 2+ hours of time impossible. I could stomach some sort of time limit, but for God’s sake, make it reasonable. There are a million legitimate reasons why people may take a few days to watch a movie, but this policy simply discards any chance to realize that extra revenue. Good job, studios – in yet another ham-fisted attempt to protect your revenue stream, you’ve succeeded only in just eliminating one. But even worse, shame on you, DirecTV. You have more bargaining power than that and your failure to step up for your customers does nothing other than hurt your bottom line. You’ve gotten the last $2.99 or $3.99 PPV charge from me, even as I would love to keep giving that money to you. Instead, its back to Netflix.

  30. Mr. Gunn says:

    Yay! I love paying the same and getting less!

  31. gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|* says:

    my DVR (issued by Time Warner) does not allow me to record ANY pay-per-view…although they do allow you to restart your ppv purchases for 24 hours, but the controls are laggy :/

  32. CJ4 says:

    As a follow up, I expressed my disatisfaction to DirecTV and received this response:

    Thanks for writing. I’m sorry to hear about your concerns regarding the new Pay Per View policy. Beginning April 15, 2008, DIRECTV will be introducing new guidelines for DVR Pay Per View recordings. Movies purchased and recorded to DVR receivers will be automatically deleted after 24 hours. This is an industry-wide change mandated by movie studios and this policy change is being implemented by all cable and satellite television providers.

    The 24 hour viewing period begins as soon as the movie is purchased, so if you order a movie at 8:00 PM on Friday and record it on to your DVR, you’ll have until 8:00 PM Saturday to watch it.

    This new rule applies to Pay Per View movies only, regular programming and other Pay Per View purchases (sports, events and adult programming) will not be affected.

    Sincerely,

    *****
    DIRECTV Customer Service

    If what they say is true, it looks like all PPV by all providers will be subject to the same 24 hour restriction. Seriously, if the entire provider industry can’t employ some collective bargaining power to get reasonable use rules, then what hope are they? After all, if not for the cable and satellite providers, there is no PPV market at all.

  33. Blinker says:

    These are pay per VIEW movies, not pay once and keep it. That is why they SELL movies in the store. If you arent going to watch it right away then why would you buy it now and record it to watch a week from now. This would be like going to Blockbuster and rent a movie for 4 bucks and then keep it for 2 weeks and complain when there is 30 dollars in late fees. Secondly, those of you using VCRs need to get out of the stone age. You cant even record in high def with a VCR. You get that crappy picture with the flipping lines throughout after you record on the same tape 5 times and the picture is blurry. Try high def and I guarantee youll like it :)

  34. Blinker says:

    @gamin:

    Thief

  35. Shutterman says:

    @Mr. Gunn: Actually, we’re paying MORE for less… They raised the rates on all packages a few months ago.

  36. the_wiggle says:

    hmm, i never thought i’d see anything that made me happy with the ever so aptly named Cox Cable (why in the heck can’t we have a la carte channels? why?) and to think i was missing the sat services my ex kept after we divorced. . . .

    netflix ROCKS! the only thing even close is Redbox. what i want, when i want for as long as i want – at reasonable rates.

  37. ConsumerAdvocacy1010 says:

    Material change of contract? No? Yes? Cancel service without the ETF?

    Anyone!?

  38. CJ4 says:

    @the_wiggle: As one who passionately hates Cox Cable, it is with no small amount of pleasure that I point out that — if the DirecTV response is accurate — this is a studio-mandated policy that will be enforced by all cable and satellite providers. So, congrats, we all get screwed.

    @ConsumerAdvocacy1010: Material change of contract? Doubtful as we have never contracted for the PPV terms – that’s something you do only when you actually purchase the PPV movie. Further, where do you go if everyone has the same stupid policy?

    In the end, I don’t mind some restriction on how long I get to keep a PPV movie. But, seriously: 24 hours? That’s just stupid. It becomes impossible to start a movie one night and then finish it the next.

  39. nick_r says:

    @Blinker: So, would you be okay with a law stating that if you buy a can of Coke at 7-11, you have to drink it within 24 hours or it instantly vaporizes?