eBayed BMW M3 Resolution Hits Pothole
The guy who won a BMW for $60k on eBay only to have the dealership back out is chaffing at the conditions the dealership imposed after the two, following an international onslaught of criticism, came to terms. The two conditions the dealership asked for were 1) That Ken not sell the car for a certain number of years after he bought it and 2) That Ken has to go around to all the internet sites that picked up his story and tell them that the dealership worked out the deal. Ken's lawyer was able to get the first one struck but Ken really doesn't like the second one, especially after the following quote from the dealership appeared in the Journal-Star, "These bloggers out there, they have lots of time on their hands to do this." To this, Ken wrote, "I got placed under the impression that the dealership really isn't sorry for anything they have done here. Their attitude, it seemed was that I am to blame for the firestorm that culminated, implying that I wasn't being proactive enough in getting the word out...I had no intention of becoming a pawn for this dealer, not after the way they treated me!" For their part, the dealership says they are ready to sell the car at the agreed-upon price once they receive payment from Ken.
It's not up to Ken to do the dealership's PR. Any new impositions by the dealer are moot. You can't add on conditions after the fact.
Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor [m3post]
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This is part of the game when you try and play Gotcha with people. You want to try and hold the dealership to an offer no reasonable person would accept, then you need to expect them to try and make the deal as unappealing as possible to you as well.
Wait 'til he starts getting the 2 AM Customer Satisfaction phone surveys...
@Hiphopopotamus: How the hell is that a price that no reasonable person would accept? It is slightly under sticker.
@Hiphopopotamus: The dealership said they meant to set the reserve price at $67,800. Not a big dif from $60k.
Time to contact eBay to let them know that the account holder is trying to impose new restrictions outside of the contract; and the attorneys general of both states to report fraudulent dealings.
And whatever news sources he can get hold of in Nebraska. I'm sure they'd love to know that a company in their midst re-writes contracts after the fact.
Oh, and lawyer up.
@Hiphopopotamus: First off, it's not unreasonable. Second off, they can't just unilaterally impose conditions after the fact.
@evslin: Ya, or even $6000.
What he got it for is not unreasonable. It was an Auction buy after all. You would hope to get something off of Ebay at lower then MSRP.
Maybe I'm one of the few that think that $60k is about $30k too much to pay for ANY damn car.
This thing better fly, turn invisible, or come with an inexhaustible supply of free hookers for that money.
Better yet: Cancel the deal, buy a reasonable car and give me the difference. I drive a Saturn and would like to buy a new one :)
Actually, this is a little outdated, as of 5pm (not sure time zone) both conditions were removed, [www.m3post.com] and it was cleared for him to place a deposit, which he planned to do using his credit card. But when he went to do so the GM refused the deposit.
[QUOTE]Ok, here is where we are. My lawyer has been working on my behalf.
He got the dealership to remove two conditions Fil Catania tried to impose on the deal on Monday. The first condition was that I agree not to sell the car for 2 years. They agreed (through their corporate counsel in Arizona) to drop that one. The second condition was that I agree to confidentiality and that I do something to stop the press from contacting the dealership and say something nice about the dealership. We got that one dropped, too.
I was told to arrange to make the deposit with Fil Catania at the dealership today (and was given a 4 hour deadline). To my dismay, Fil Cataniam, the GM, used my call as an opportunity to berate me, telling me CSNBC, etc.,. etc., were calling the dealership again. In my call to him, he also refused to take my credit card! In essence, he has rejected the deal corporate counsel for the parent company had worked out with my lawyer last night.[/QUOTE]
what kind of loser luxury car dealer puts cars up on ebay anyways? obviously this kind of treatment should be expected when they cant even sell a car in the traditional fashion.
but in no way am i berating the OP. sounds like he's really getting the shaft here... bummer for him, and i hope his lawyer's fees arent going to push the cost of this ordeal beyond simply buying the car at full pop.
LOL
I just went to look at the auction. Some pieces that stood out and made me laugh:
In scrolling text "Buy with confidence. Call Michael at 402-802-2272"
So much for confidence, Mikey.
In a Title field in the auction, "Lowest price on eBay."
Seems the low price was meant to be a draw to the auction.
In the About Us "Our Dealership has built a reputation on providing courteous, honest service. Our customers appreciate the way we do business, and we know you will too."
Ha! That's classic.
I've been spamming the emails of the people that work there, especially customer relations. If you have some time to kill, give them a call or email. Here is a page with all their emails and direct lines, because for some reason, their "Contact Us" page is down....
I love how the dealership is just now trying to attach conditions to act as damage control. BMW of Lincoln, whom I never heard of before this but am now convinced are assholes, I gotta let you know that genie escaped the bottle along time ago. The Streisand effect is definitely in play and they're just making it worse.
I think this is one of the funniest stories I have read. It's absolutely absurd that not one person at the dealership has the sense to see that a measly few thousand dollars is going to cost them much much more in negative publicity. If they lose just one sale from this, which undoubtedly they will, they probably will have lost more than that. I am surprised BMW corporate hasn't come down on this dealer and the prick GM to let this go. It is harming their reputation as a company.
@bigvicproton: If the car isn't in the condition described in the auction, that could be considered fraud, and that's a whole new set of problems for them.
@alexanderpink: You (or anyone else reading this) should get a list of BMX exec emails together and EECB them with this story. It's possible that they don't know yet. It doesn't come up on the first page of a Google search for "BMW."
@BayStateDarren, alexanderpink: I think they're just fucking the guy around. It's a fun game called, "How can we really mess this guy up? Can we achieve public humiliation? Make him beg for his car he thought he was getting scot-free? Get him to cry like a baby?"
Remember that their first move was to laugh at him when he called to get the car. They're having a field day.
@marsneedsrabbits:Our friend is 100% ahead of you: "On monday, everything culminated into a huge firestorm at the dealer. Channel 8 news was calling for a interview, in addition to the BBB, Ebay, CNN and MSNB". He has a lawyer too.
Wow, that's really outrageous. Both of those conditions are just outrageous. Why did the dealership even bother to reverse its position in the first place? Clearly, it isn't concerned with the fact that it's alienating prospective buyers left and right.
I believe car dealerships have to be a lot more careful in the Internet age. Years ago, from the other side of the continent, my occasional exposure to automotive message boards made particular dealers stick in my mind as unworthy of business. Now I've switched coasts, and those same dealers are right here where I live. Guess what? I still remember how you screwed over those message board users, and I'll be damned if I ever set foot in your showrooms!
@William Mize: Hello, it's an M3. Lots of racing history behind it. The engine itself is pretty advanced.
@Hiphopopotamus: Excuse me, but how is a legal contract unreasonable? They agreed, when they listed the auction and allowed it to close without changing or cancelling, to sell the item for the winning bid amount. You haven't ever used ebay, have you?
I can and have eaten the cost of my mistakes, and I expect others to do the same, but woe to you if you try to weasel out of what you agreed to -- no matter whether you bought or sold.
This guy deserves his car and no more bullshit. Period. Their only question needs to be "How will you pay, sir?"

























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Easy!