50 Ways To Get Through Phone Systems
VOIP-News has a list of 50 ways to get through to a real, live, not necessarily well-trained CSR on phone systems. We're posting this not just because their first tip is "Read the Consumerist," but because there are some really good ideas here, like hitting up EDGAR to search for contact info on public companies.
Here are tips 1-9, from the "Numbers to Call" section:
1. "Read The Consumerist."
Done.
2. "Go to the collections department."
This is a department companies will actually devote resources to, so your odds of reaching a live person can jump dramatically.
3. "Search EDGAR."
4. "Find important numbers through Whois.net."
5. "Call the number for new service."
As with the collections, companies have a strong incentive to provide efficient customer service to possible new customers, so pretend to be one.
6. "Find the right number."
VOIP-News writes, "If you find a specialized number, you're more likely to get through quickly." We agree only if it's truly a special, not-revealed-to-the-public number—otherwise you risk falling back into the company's automated system and miss your chance to game it.
7. "Call the retentions department."
See #2 and #5 above.
8. "Do a Web search for the company."
"Hit your favorite search engine and enter the company's name, plus terms such as 'president,' 'investor relations' or 'executive service.'" You should also try similar searches on Consumerist for past contact info posts.
9. "Find disgruntled customers."
"Again, search engines can help you locate numbers if you enter phrases such as 'I hate company X' or 'company X sucks.'"
(Thanks to Andy!)
"PBX Hell: 50-Plus Hacks and Tips to Get to a Real Person at Any Corporation in 10 Seconds or Less" [VOIP-News]
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Zero almost always works at any time on the majority of automated systems I've dealt with.
Another way is to keep hitting all the "other" options. The reject state for "other" is always eventually to dump you on a human.
Yet another way is to not do anything. Eventually the system will decide that there's something wrong with you that you can't work with the system and dump you to a human.
An aside: I've noticed som voice systems will implicitly accept numbers even if they don't actually say they do. When they give you a list of things you can say, the first can be accessed via 1, etc.
PS: I hate voice-only systems, with a passion. They really suck when you are not in a private place (like the office, etc.) My coworkers don't need to hear me yammering "YES, YES, CUSTOMER SUPPORT, NEW ISSUE, YES," etc. Or, say, my CC number.
@jamesdenver:
That does not work all the time. When I was at Comcast there were many times when we were not busy, I mean just sitting there and the Spanish speaking people had close to 20 calls on hold. Also in some companys because of the need for Spanish people to be available to assist Spanish speaking customers, they will transfer you back into the que if you are able to speak english. Not always right but the way it is done sometimes
@B1663R:
I'll second that on calling them collect. Call them collect on the international line and you will get in almost immediately.
Now who here wants a cheese sandwich?
Some voice recognition systems can recognize mumbling as mumbling.
I used to request "Half-Trained Disgruntled Phone Monkey" - the voice systems can tell you're speaking clearly, but still has no idea what you want. Usually a human being followed in short order.
SOME systems will lock out the voice if it doesn't recognize what you're saying after a certain number of attempts - then you're stuck with keypad hell again.
"Go to the collections department."
I used to work in a collections call center for a mid-sized cell phone company. Any time someone called our dept, we were supposed to take care of the collections issue first (if there were any) and then we had to transfer them to customer service. This was so we could spend all of our time getting money for the company. If someone got mad that they waited to talk to us and then now had to wait in queue for someone in customer service, we were supposed to lie to them and tell them that we were going to transfer them so they by-passed the queue and would get the very next CSR. I didn't work for them for very long.
@tomok97: I do that occasionally when the pounding zero doesn't work, but I admit I laughed at your phrasing of it.
With the IVRs, simply shouting a wide variety of obscenities in your best high-blood-pressure imitation will get you put through VERY promptly about 90% of the time. I think there must be some special tier that 'pre-angry' folks get routed to, because the CSRs that answer always start off very apprehensively with their greeting. (Of course, once you're through, be the soul of grace and poise and politesse.)
I always used to just keep hitting "other" or 0 or nothing at all, hoping I would eventually get routed to a person. Lately with most of the systems I call, it just leads to the system saying "goodbye" and hanging up on you, which I find INEXCUSABLE.
(Nah, I didn't really have anything I wanted to talk about today...I just have some leftover cell phone minutes and I find pushing buttons to be a stimulating leisure activity. Kudos to the system for realizing I didn't have any actual business to transact and putting a stop to my playtime foolishness!)
I work for a small company - about 25 employees. One is a dedicated phone/receptionist. The owner says he can't afford to not have a live person answer the phone. Every day we get customers who say they will never call our competitors who all have phone mail hell systems. BTW, orders are that if the receptionist isn't at her desk someone pick up the phone after 3 rings.
It works well, the boss took the entire company & Wives/husbands on a 3 day trip to the Bahamas last year to show his appreciation.
@floyderdc: It worked the other way around where I used to work, the English queue would be full, and the Spanish operators would be sitting around knitting.
That made talking to the 8-year old kid who was asked to call by his Spanish-speaking parents even more aggrivating.











#51 : www.gethuman.com
What we use at work all the time.