Colin writes:
I went into my nearest ATT store and there were two CSR’s behind the counter- I asked for an 8gig Refurb iPhone thats being sold for $249 and the kid said sure and walked me over to the desk. The next words out of his mouth “What is your social security number?” No “How are you today?” “Thanks for coming in” No, apparently they just want my credit report to see if I am “worthy”
“Um. What? Why do you need that?” He tells me that its necessary for activating a new account “I don’t want an account now, I will activate on iTunes later” He turns and asks some other CSR if they can sell it without activation- to which the other CSR says “No” I say, ok, whatever, I’ll buy the phone and just cancel the service, then I can keep the phone because I am paying full price for it. “No, you can’t do that, you would have to return the phone”
I’m starting to get upset at this point so I ask for a manager, and next thing I know, theres now 5 CSR’s behind the counter. (No other customers in the store- just me). Manager says no, and that if I buy and activate, they will notate my account that I plan to cancel and keep the phone. I am FURIOUS now, so I call ATT and explain the situation to a sales csr- she is confused and is useless and can’t resolve the issue anyway. Hanging up, I then approach the sales desk- now there are 8 CSR’s behind the desk!!?! (Only ONE other customer in the store btw) I tell one of the CSR’s I am ready to buy and activate on a two year commitment… Drum roll please…
“No”
“What?!!? Why not!?”
“Because you are going to unlock the phone and we can’t allow that. Go buy one on eBay.”
Now I am about to lose it.
“First off, you have NO right to dictate to me what I do and do not do with a product I purchase. If I pay FULL RETAIL PRICE for something, I can smash it with hammers and throw the pieces off the Grand Canyon if I so choose!”
Purchasing an iPhone at full retail price carries with it no commitment to anything, and to make assumptions to what I plan to do with the phone is complete discrimination. What if I wanted to give it as a gift to my girlfriend and she would be able to activate on her own accord???
I explain all of this, calmly mind you, and then ask them to call their corporate office. Mrs. CSR #1 says “We are corporate”
So now they’ve lowered themselves to LYING to my face. Awesome.
“You’re corporate? I make more money in one day then you make all week Mrs. Corporate”
Now THEY’RE really pissed and tell me they are calling security. I tell them go ahead! I’m not stealing, Im not breaking things, Im not wildly running around the store naked & screaming “The iPhones are your demi-god! OBEY!” I am trying to PURCHASE a product and agree to the terms of their contract!!!!!
“We are denying to sell to you”
I fold my arms and wait. Three security guards show up and I take the ‘leader’ aside and explain. He has NO idea what to do. He actually calls the main office, his boss, and asks what to do in this kind of situation. The security boss says the store CAN deny me the sale and asks the security guard to pass along that message to me. I respect their decision, but once outside the store, the guard AGREES with me!
“You should be able to do whatever you want with the phone. If you bought it, its yours”
He apologizes and tells me that I should go to the main kiosk and file a complaint with the mall corporate offices.
Fast-forward 30 mins, I’ve driven to another store, I walk in, ask the same question “I’d like an iPhone 8gig refurb”
“Ok, here you go! No contract? No problem! That will be $249.00 plus tax”
That being said: They have NO rights to deny a sale because they “Suspect” I might unlock it. It is not spoiled to defend my rights as a consumer to purchase an item under the terms of the agreement set forth by the manufacturer and the distributer. To deny me purchasing the item at FULL RETAIL PRICE because they think I might “unlock it” or “sell it on eBay” is judgmental and discriminatory.
The whole point of being able to buy the phone at full retail price is the convenience of activating it in the comforts of home, or giving it as a gift to someone who will activate it themselves.
And like I said- you receive NO discount on the price of the phone for activating! So if you want to buy one, NOT activate it and merely hang it on your wall like a piece of art- That is your given right as a consumer!
I apologize for the long rant, but I am furious that this kind of situation was even necessary…
Thank you for taking the time to read what occurred.
Sincerely,
Colin M.
Looks like one AT&T store has taken it upon themselves to grossly misinterpret company policy and procedures. Why should the store give a damn what you do with the phone after you walk out with it? It’s no skin off their hunched and scaly backs. Once again, when it comes to You, iPhone, and AT&T, the cellphone carrier is your 7th grade girlfriend’s ugly friend that kept showing up whenever you wanted to go makeout in the back of a dark movie theater.







Some AT&T stores are anal about these things. I recall needing a SIM card so I asked if I could get one unactivated. I have been their customer for a long time now.
First I get a “No, we can’t give it out” and then I offer to buy it and they say “Sorry we can’t sell it”.
I go to another store, and I offer to buy a SIM card. He just asks for my phone number and gives me one unactivated.
Get this crap: I am (have been for like 12 years) an AT&T customer. I am eligible for an upgrade in May 2009. However, while browsing the AT&T site, I saw that they have refurb 8GB for $100.00 So I call to see if I can get in on this and they say “No – you have to either wait till you are eligible or pay full retail.” But I try to argue that I am going to sign another 2 year contract anyway so why not let me in on the special refurb pricing. I was extremely frustrated but since I didn’t have any leverage to argue I am in wait mode. What is up with that? Great customer service…..
For the person that started this thread. Awesome you make money. Thumbs up for you and making your case very irrelevant with that line.
For most people that work in sales, there will always be someone dissatisfied with something. It can be any one thing for anything you sell. Everyone in sales will always have some angry customer sometime or another. Its inevitable and it can always help a business grow because you know where you need to improve on.
In this case.. the truth is ATT actually doesnt start making money on IPHONES till after the 1st year out of the 2 year commitment. Some two year contracts give as early as a 6 month early upgrades. Which bascially means you dont have to finish the two year contract. Standard early upgrade is eligibile for most customers that pay their bill on time (4 months). ATT makes a lot of money but also lose a whole too for people that want to buy the iphone for retail price and unlock it later. ATT basically has to buy the phone for retail price and then make money on the SERVICE.. so if you dont pay them for the SERVICE, they dont make money. they actually only make 8 months out of 12 months if you do an early upgrade. If about lets say you get 30 percent of the customers that do that, then ATT wouldnt even make that much money.
If you make your mind to buy something then go buy it and honor the contract and your salesmen. Ill admit that corporate ATT have 60% under-trained and not know everything they are supposed to know. But when comes down to the contract, there is nothing they can say or change whats written on paper. 2 year contract, with a standard early upgrade. This phone requires a data plan etc etc.. if you want it then take the deal. If you dont then you dont have to. No one is forcing you. Most sales reps for any store just sell the price they are supposed to sell at. Why whine about the price, contract, this and that when you have other options elsewhere. You not only waste your own time, but you make a fool out whining and just go somewhere else.
I work at an AUTHORIZED ATT retailer, while i wont give out the retailer name. I know that for a fact all our reps know more than corporate ATT in any subject because we acutally ahve to research things ourselves and do more things and know more things so that whent he customer comes in and goes out, they feel just a little more educated and knowledgeable of what they buy. We do get assholes of all kinds here at times.. but we always stand in their shoes and do what we can on our side. If we cant do then we will tell the customer that we tried our best (because we have done everything we could or could not). Most assholes like this guy who put the post dont give a flying f. And if you do make that much money go buy it from someone else. Dont get me wrong.. There are some rip offs at corporate sometimes.. but there are customers that rip ATT as well.
Except because of FCC restrictions they aren’t technically allowed to “let you” unlock it. And legally any business can deny service to any customer. Mind you if it is because of race or gender they could be sued. Really, in this case, they did nothing wrong (except being kind of annoying).