People still get perms?

So is the majority of that alopecia a result of the perm or was it a pre-existing condition? I hope she got money for damages past the cost of the perm!

Fucking rednecks and their liens

Late yesterday, I spoke with their attorney and they made a correction on the suit. So we have settled...

She didn't say if the revised 'settlement' still included a no-fault, or non-disclosure clause. If it did, oops! Back to square one.

Is part of the confidentiality settlement posting this awful experience on Consumerist?

You can still sue for damages resulting from pain and suffering, which you obviously have had to endure. If there is no prejudice on this settlement, you still have the right to go after them.

Remind me never to go to Texas.

Someone can get a lien on something that easy? If the lien was put in under false pretenses, can they be sued or prosecuted ? Does anyone know?

And you didn't hear the gunshot because you were in the shower?

I am now declaring that I own EVERY CAR IN TEXAS.

Make checks payable to C.A.S.H. and send them to my soon to be reserved PO Box.

Seriously, can we just give Texas to Mexico and call it a day? Its like a whole different world down there!

What? How can you get a lien without winning a judgment first?

Take it easy on Texas. There are stupid people everywhere.

@homerjay: i am fine with that, with the mandatory inclusion of california.

@RandoTheKing: I fail to see what skin color has to do with anything.

@ncboxer:

Well, crap. I'm putting a lien all sorts of things I see now. Giant SUV? Lien. McMansion? Lien! PS3 and Wii? Lien!!

"So, in effect, they are saying they will stop trying to TAKE MY CAR if I promise never to tell anyone that this horrible place burned bald spots in my hair."

Well not really. If I understand correctly they are also paying the claim.

@BrockBrockman: Yeah, and some people (coughgirlfriendcough) need to spend $90 on it.

I chop at my hair with dull kitchen knives.

I had a bad perm (in 1995) that wasn't nearly as bad as hers, but still quite bad. Burn marks around the scalp line, not to mention a really terrible perm. They used the smallest rollers available, creating a stacked afro (for a white girl with chubby cheeks - not so good).
I was quite young and was told, go ahead, pay now, sleep on it, if you still are unhappy come back tomorrow and we'll refund. I came back with my mom and they refused to refund. We refused to leave. The police escorted us out (we were well behaved, we just didn't leave).
I disputed with VISA and the charge never went through.
A month later, I was received notice. I was being sued.
I had to settle, as I couldn't afford a lawyer for this nonsense.

I know nothing about the many no-show appointments he had the following April Fool's Day, nor the following New Year's Eve (I understand that's a big-business day for salons). Must have been some teenage pranksters. My word.

@karlrove:

Lien on a leftist.

@Spyrojoe: Exactly. I have my own problems with the people here in Texas, but that is because I live here. It is like any other State. My mother and father are not related, nor their grandparents, and so on. I also have never worked on a farm, and am in a family full of nerds.

I have never heard of anything like this happening, that is insane. Poor woman! I hope there wasn't any permanent damage.

it was a cold an rainy day in march
i went to Christoph's where i usually get my hair done
but Christoph has mysteriously disappeared
in his place was a stranger named Renaldo
he said, "I'll streak your hair, and I'll give you a body wave"
he worked very quickly
and then, as he turned my chair to face the mirror, i saw it...
HE PERMED ME!

@boandmichele: The difference between TX and CA is that as the 5th largest economy in the world, CA pays for a great deal of the rest of the country. Careful what you wish for.

if I were her, I would have put a lien on HIS car.

@ncboxer: You can pretty much put a lien on anything to kind of reserve your spot. You'll get nothing if you do not pursue the lien. When you want to collect based on the lien then you have to start proving stuff.

@youbastid: Well, Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world, so if you guys want to get rid of us, you might want to reconsider that as well. Unless somehow Rhode Island is going to start doing some shit that's worth talking about.

oh god i would probably sue them to the ground if they did that to my hair!

Farklefish, what a great revenge idea! So impressed! I was a hairdresser, and my advice is: if you're doing anything remotely chemical (color/straightening/perms) it's worth it to go to a GREAT stylist and ask the receptionist if you can come in for a 15 minute consultation on a day BEFORE you come in. Let the stylist talk to you, check out your hair, and have a plan of action. This will also ensure they have the correct supplies and enough time booked to make sure you get a perfect job. You have to go to a decent salon too. Make sure they seem professional and are paying attention to what you are saying. Sure, expensive stylists are going to present you with a big bill when you're done, but you will more than likely LOVE your hair and if anything goes wrong they will not give you grief like these schmos did.

Thank goodness I never had such a horrible experience...but I have had bad highlighting jobs. The last time I highlighted my hair, it ended up looking blondish and I hated it. I was told that it would start dulling in a few days, and it did, so it wasn't such a big deal. A few months later, the blonde streaks turned to a deep reddish orange, which I got a lot of compliments on, but was a completely freak thing.

Not to blame the victim, cause her treatment was horrible, and I'm glad she got her money back... but this is why you ask friends with awesome hair where they go, before you step into a place. Shelly's Hair and Care might not sound so snazzy, but they might do a better job than the people at John Frieda, because it's not actually John Frieda doing your hair.

@Smackdown: Well, there's one hell of a dropoff between 5 and 15. Craigslist, I believe, is the 12th largest economy in the world.

Ahh, I'm just joshin'. I like Texas. 'Cept for the executing retards part.

I need to see a "before" picture before rendering a verdict!

@loganmo: Hahahahahahaha!

You can't get your hair wet for 24hrs after getting a perm!

You idiots, this has nothing to do with Texas. People get bad haircuts everywhere, and there are lousy business owners everywhere.

Deflecting this issue to some kind of silly anti-state one is not only pointless but it completely misses the point.

Well, why didn't she put a lien on the salon itself for damaging her hair?

I agree, where is the "before" picture? Thought the "after" picture was pretty sexy though.

Flowbee for the win. I cut my hair in the summer and let it grow wild all winter. I couldn't relate less to this article.

@testsicles: There's a very good reason that everyone doesn't have a Flowbee.

Yeah, just put a lien on the salon, problem solved.

@testsicles: You must be a hit with the ladies. :)

Thats what happens when you live in texas. I visited there for a very short time, and omg it seroiusly is the worst place on earth. I can see how laws like putting a lein on someones car for any reason would be considered ok to do.

@youbastid: Thank you. That's pretty much what I was going to say. California is a) not as insane as Texas by a LONG shot, and b) supports a huge chunk of the economy.

My aunt lives just south of Trophy Club. It's not backwoods Texas, it's rich white suburban Texas, just northwest of Dallas. Some of the most vile people I've ever known live in suburbs like that one. Petty, selfish and haughty. It's part of the reason I ended up moving to Austin, because those people tend to keep out of the main part of the city. They like their McMansion suburbs. I'm totally not surprised she got that kind of treatment from the salon up there - it's all par for the course for that area in my book. Completely wrong, but completely not unexpected.

@aphex242: Actually, it does, since a lot of the talk here is centered around the ability to place a lien on anything.

She lives in TROPHY CLUB(!!!), Texas. 'nuff said.

I wasn't aware they exercised liens in Texas. I thought they just executed everyone. Or do they just reserve that for the mentally retarded?

Her hair looks like it was in pretty bad condition before a perm. A responsible place will tell you ahead of time that they do not recommend chemical treatments for your hair if it is already damaged, and some will even flat out refuse.

The article says a worker was quoted as saying her hair was damaged already, but fails to mention if this was brought to attention before the perm process begun.

If she was informed that her hair was already damaged and that a perm would cause even more, possibly severe damage and she went through with it anyway, then she deserves nothing.

I can't believe the owner of the salon even knew what a lien was and how to obtain it. How many on this website (of arguably pretty intelligent consumers) even know that? I'm impressed.

That being said, I would have stood on the side of the road in front of the store with a huge sign saying "look at what this salon did to my hair" until I felt like I'd taken enough flesh out of them.

@Itzpapalotl: I hope there wasn't any permanent damage.

:::RIMSHOT:::

@youbastid: For the record, I'm utterly unable to find any resources online that support the dubious claims given in this article re: liens on autos in Texas. Two ways it can be done:

By a bank, for the purposes of a loan for the purchase of the vehicle, or by a mechanic, who is unpaid for the work done to said automobile.

Period.

So while everyone's getting their jollies off bashing Texas based on one ignorant person's myopic view of the law, I'm trying to focus the conversation on haircuts, salons, and customer service, which I'm pretty sure was the point in the first place.

Any contrary evidence you can find to support the "(In Texas, you can put a lien on anything for any reason.)" claim in the original article, I'd love to see it. The statement, taken on it's own, flies directly in the face of common sense. You mean I can put a lien on my neighbor's cat because I like it?

I can put a lien on a house I drove by because I hate the shutters?

Starting to see the obvious holes in the logic here?

It's a boneheaded statement, and it takes a bonehead to use it to bash Texas. There's plenty wrong with Texas, but there's plenty wrong with a lot of states. The lien issue described here is farcical.