The Top 30 Business Schools (According To Business Week)
If you're in the market for an MBA, check out Business Week's slideshow (we know, ugh) of their top 30 business schools in the U.S. Coming in at number one: the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business, which has started requiring applicants to "submit up to four PowerPoint or similar slides with pictures, graphics, or text, along with two standard essay questions." (We're not saying that's why they're #1, we just think that's funny.) Chicago isn't cheap—we mean both the city and the school—but median pay post-MBA is $100,000.
Rounding out the top five are the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, Harvard Business School, and the Stephen M. Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan.
"The Best Full-Time MBAs" [BusinessWeek]
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Not that I give a crap about these rankings considering George Bush got an MBA from Harvard, but what is readily apparent, and perhaps a bit ironic, is that the correlation between these schools and the best schools to get PhD's in Management is not that high in many cases. Why would that be? I think its because they are focusing on MBAs that emphasize Strategy over anything else. Which just like with US News and World Report make these rankings pretty rank.
@mconfoy:
Not to be insulting, but their is a belief that those who pursue PhD's in management probably were failures or not able to achieve much on the outside, while those who were successfull, never had any reason to go back to school again.....at least that how some MBA's viewed their professors.
@drotor:
Where are these schools?
Per Answers.com:
IMD - Intermodulation distortion
LBS - Location Based Services
UWO - University of Western Ontario - I guess that's in Ontario.
@Sonnymooks:
In undergrad, I minored in business administration. A lot of the classes were a joke, and in one of them, we used crayons. I can't imagine the graduate classes were that much harder.
Sorry, but those are pretty much in the Top 10 FULL-TIME MBA programs on any list any year. ONe thing to note is that the surveys often include asessments potential employers who tend to skew against the schools where grads drive a hard-bargain at hiring time, sted of just gratefully takign a job offer after interning.
For example, Columbia has a highly rated program, but employers are a bit put off by the sharp elbows that come with the many grads who already worked on Wall Street and are not, shall we say, "shy" about going after the jobs and compensation packages they want.
@segfault:
I do feel bad saying this, but you got ripped off badly. Most of my MBA time was spent doing financial analysis and accounting. If I had had to use a crayon at any point, I probably would have tossed it at the prof.
I didn't like some of the stuff I thought was useless, but as the joke went, if you were creative and had a healthy imagination, you should be in marketing......and stay the hell away from the books.
Sidenote: When it comes to marketing and advertising, business really does copy the dilbert cartoon.
@bbbici:
Not really, thats like saying High School only matters if your employer went to the same one.
There's a book that's just come out recently, and of course I'm blanking on the name, but the author's argument is that B-schools in the US have mostly moved away from substantive training and education to rubber stamping anyone who can afford the degree and put in the time to do it, with relatively dire results.
I saw it reviewed a ton of places a couple months ago, does anyone remember?
@Sonnymooks: As someone in marketing/advertising, specifically interactive marketing at one of the top digital agencies on a major beverage account I'd just like to point out how immature and myopic your comment was.
I would LOVE to see you try to develop an integrated cross-channel strategy and measurement plan.
Every industry has their Dilbert PHB's but don't for a second think marketing/advertising isn't a critical part of business that absolutely requires intelligence, logic, creativity and wit to make successful.
The Fortune 500 companies that newly-minted MBA's apply for would go out of business in short order if they had Dilbert-esque PHB's in their marketing departments.
@Haltingpoint: Saying my statement was myopic was probably an understatement.
That said, my interactions with marketing folks (based on "anecdotal evidence", see dilbert for the referance) has been pretty accurate and their annoying interference in the engineering or nuts and bolts parts of operations has been beyond annoying and often outside of the realm of reality but yes, they are often essential, important and vital......but as things go, they do drive me nuts.
Sidenote: There are folks who have MBA's who specialize in marketing, when I went for my MBA, I did take marketing courses, and did have to design a Marketing plan for a real company, who did wind up actually utilizing parts of our plan successfully.






Yeah Chicago.